Thanks all
I'm still drawn to the mukluk2. It's orange
I think I'll be well happy on 4", mukluk has 120 nates on 82mm rims
The 170mm hubs could be replaced by hope fatsno if needed
It's got 2x10
Plenty of holes to bolt stuff onto
Sliding dropouts for future tinkering
I've been given a deal on a new kona Wo 2015, I like it, fits 5" too but it's dark green. It has what I need but the colour puts me off, it looks kinda dull.
The pugsleys are pushing the budget with the kit I want. They come as 9 speed standard too, I'd prefer 10 so all of my bikes can use the same spares. I can only find them in blue and black, I've got bikes in those colours and fancy a change unless I could find another colour. Not sure on the thumbies, all this pushes it well over £1500.
Any more alternatives for ~£1500. Not the specialized, it's more of a toy than a workhorse.