Author Topic: Grammar that makes you cringe  (Read 835026 times)

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6125 on: 08 July, 2021, 05:00:15 pm »
I've just seen this gem in an email:

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I am 100% for this.
In languages with stricter rules (or conventions) governing the relationship between pronunciation and spelling, foreign words tend to follow a process of having either their spelling changed to match to the original pronunciation, or being pronounced in a way that matches the local spelling rules. This is a pretty good example of the first process.  :thumbsup:
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6126 on: 09 July, 2021, 01:01:15 pm »
Great example today of how automatic speech recognition learns. On Wednesday I corrected one such presentation on behalf of a "great Australian firm" which began as is the current Australian custom by "acknowledging the ancestral lands we are meeting on". In this case, the lands of the Dharawal people. I can't remember what the ASR had put in place of Dharawal, if anything, but I definitely needed to look it up. Today, same firm, same acknowledgment, and there it is "Dharawal Land". I'll be able to retire soon, or would be if I'd actually started working.
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ian

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6127 on: 09 July, 2021, 01:33:13 pm »
Reminds me of the time someone stood up as they graciously acknowledged those ancestral lands and asked them to stop doing so 'unless you're planning to give them back.'

Awkward.

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6128 on: 09 July, 2021, 01:36:54 pm »
The software has learned "Dharawal" but still can't cope with the name of the firm. Odd.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6129 on: 20 July, 2021, 03:54:40 pm »
This doesn't make me cringe (and it's not grammar) but I do think it's a needless and vaguely dislikable word: a 12-page magazine has come through our door, full of glossy photos of desirable properties. It looks like one of those publications that mixes a little bit of local what's-on type news with a lot of estate agents' adverts, except that this is actually produced by one estate agency. But it doesn't have any adverts for specific properties: they're trying to make it about design and possibly even architecture. Anyway, they include an article about working from your shed, which uses the word 'shedio'. A portemanteau of shed and studio which sounds uncomfortably like 'cool, daddio!'
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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6130 on: 21 July, 2021, 02:40:14 pm »
'shedio'

BURN THEM!

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A portemanteau of shed and studio which sounds uncomfortably like 'cool, daddio!'

Either that or Man United's new Brazilian wonderkid.
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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6131 on: 22 July, 2021, 10:46:58 am »
Just overheard a colleague on the phone:

"We don't want to hero that..."

Made me flinch involuntarily.
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ravenbait

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6132 on: 22 July, 2021, 12:36:11 pm »
Just overheard a colleague on the phone:

"We don't want to hero that..."

Made me flinch involuntarily.

I did, too, just reading it.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6133 on: 22 July, 2021, 02:29:36 pm »
From an article, Alabama doctor on treating unvaccinated, dying COVID patients

"Dr. Brytney Cobia is a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham."
Won't somebody think of the hamsters!

citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6134 on: 22 July, 2021, 02:34:25 pm »
From an article, Alabama doctor on treating unvaccinated, dying COVID patients

"Dr. Brytney Cobia is a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham."

A friend also shared that on Facebook. My first thought was is that someone who hospitalises people?
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6135 on: 22 July, 2021, 03:32:07 pm »
No, that's a motorist.

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6136 on: 22 July, 2021, 03:43:08 pm »
I'd like you to join me in heroing all the hospitalists who, due to cut backs, are medicking from a shedspital.
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Paul

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6137 on: 22 July, 2021, 03:57:33 pm »
No, that's a motorist.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6138 on: 22 July, 2021, 06:43:05 pm »
Whilst it is cringeworthy, it is accepted American English. We would call them a general medicine consultant.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6139 on: 22 July, 2021, 06:49:17 pm »
Whilst it is cringeworthy, it is accepted American English. We would call them a general medicine consultant.

FSVO “we”.  Most people would call them “a doctor” ;)
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6140 on: 22 July, 2021, 10:15:36 pm »
Not so much grammar, but radio interviewees, who, when introduced to give their piece/opinion, they reply;
"Thanks for having me". :hand:

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6141 on: 23 July, 2021, 07:38:09 am »
Whilst it is cringeworthy, it is accepted American English. We would call them a general medicine consultant.

Medical doctors whose practice is limited to within hospitals; no other office for their practice.  Versus medical doctors who see patients in a clinic as well as in a hospital setting, or who only see patients in a clinic.

This 'Murrican English speaker figured it out.  Such medical doctors see patients who are hospitalized hospitalised very sick.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6142 on: 23 July, 2021, 08:14:35 am »
Again, not really grammar but...

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As the Guardian reported last year, an Arizona fire was sparked in 2017 after an off-duty US border patrol agent shot at an explosive that sent blue smoke into the air to dramatically announce that his baby would be born as a boy.

Makes you wonder why they didn't shove a mike up his wife and interview the foetus.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6143 on: 23 July, 2021, 09:29:43 am »
"Gender reveal" stupidity could fill one of our larger threads all on its own.
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ravenbait

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6144 on: 23 July, 2021, 10:00:48 am »
Not so much grammar, but radio interviewees, who, when introduced to give their piece/opinion, they reply;
"Thanks for having me". :hand:

Are you concerned about the double entendre? This is a common speech form where I'm from. I frequently say this to my mum when she says, "Thanks for visiting," although I normally use "Thank you for having me," rather than "thanks".

Sam

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ian

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6145 on: 23 July, 2021, 10:42:06 am »
Sod that, it's people who answer every question by starting with 'that's a really good question.'

Paul

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6146 on: 23 July, 2021, 12:25:15 pm »
Or those who think that every sentence can start with “So”.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6147 on: 23 July, 2021, 01:04:01 pm »
Or those who think that every sentence can start with “So”.
John Finnemore has some info about that.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6148 on: 23 July, 2021, 01:17:19 pm »
Whilst it is cringeworthy, it is accepted American English. We would call them a general medicine consultant.

Medical doctors whose practice is limited to within hospitals; no other office for their practice.  Versus medical doctors who see patients in a clinic as well as in a hospital setting, or who only see patients in a clinic.

Oh, a hospital doctor.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6149 on: 23 July, 2021, 01:36:32 pm »
Or those who think that every sentence can start with “So”.
John Finnemore has some info about that.

Spot on!  John Finnemore is very good, which isn't always the case with the Footlights "graduates".  Sadly the BBC invariably gives the latest ones a series before finding out!

So, "Cabin Pressure" is great!