The pros and cons of dishwashers

[rogerzilla]

12. Anything and everything that can't run away goes in the dishwasher.

We don't have a dishwasher.  Never seen the point, and it would take up important cupboard space in the smallish kitchen.

[Jurek]

......We don't have a dishwasher.......

How on earth are your transmission components kept clean? 

[Andrij]

......We don't have a dishwasher.......

How on earth are your transmission components kept clean? 

With a toothbrush and TLC?

[rogerzilla]

Dental floss and tweezers mostly.

[Wascally Weasel]

12. Anything and everything that can't run away goes in the dishwasher.

We don't have a dishwasher.  Never seen the point, and it would take up important cupboard space in the smallish kitchen.

How has your relationship survived?

 

[Jurek]

In this house, I am the dishwasher.

The bike parts go into the sonicator. 

EDIT: I tried the bath once (for the bike components, you understand).
I am never, ever, ever going to do that again.

[Tim Hall]

12. Anything and everything that can't run away goes in the dishwasher.

No. Bad ian. No biscuit.

Pots and pans take up a huge amount of room in the dishwasher. Space that could be filled by needy plates. Pots and pans get done in the sink get left for days.

Mrs. Hall doesn't agree with me on this. See also the difference between a bread knife and a nice sharp kitchen knife. One is used for cutting bread, the other for kitchen-esque duties. Or should be.

[Jurek]

.....Bad ian. No biscuit.....

  In fits thereof...
EDIT: You are Eddy Izzard AICMFP

[Jaded]

If you have wood, do not slide it in the dishwasher.

Even if no one is looking at the time.

They'll find out later.

Mark my words.

[interzen]

If you have wood, do not slide it in the dishwasher.

Even if no one is looking at the time.

They'll find out later.

Mark my words.

You owe me a new keyboard. I've just coughed a mug of tea into mine ...

[ian]

12. Anything and everything that can't run away goes in the dishwasher.

No. Bad ian. No biscuit.

Pots and pans take up a huge amount of room in the dishwasher. Space that could be filled by needy plates. Pots and pans get done in the sink get left for days.

Mrs. Hall doesn't agree with me on this. See also the difference between a bread knife and a nice sharp kitchen knife. One is used for cutting bread, the other for kitchen-esque duties. Or should be.

Yes, but we have a beefy Teutonic dishwasher. You could wash a small country in it. Or an Audi Q7.

I'm not allowed sharp things, of course.

[tiermat]

Lets just reprise this one shall we?

Cereal boxes, when empty do not go next to the bin, they go IN the bin.

Same goes for the boxes you get Capri Sun in. Don't throw the fucking things on the floor and expect the houseboy to come around and pick it up for you.

You know why this is?

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FUCKING HOUSE BOY!

[HTFB]

12. Anything and everything that can't run away goes in the dishwasher.

No. Bad ian. No biscuit.

Pots and pans take up a huge amount of room in the dishwasher. Space that could be filled by needy plates. Pots and pans get done in the sink get left for days.

If you've got a dishwasher, it's using less energy and less water to clean your pans than you would use in washing up by hand. Doing the evil greasy pan to save space for nice easily-wiped plates is all wrong. Just run the bloody thing twice.

Or, if you must confine them to doing the place-settings and cutlery, the ideal is to have two dishwashers. Tthen you don't even need a kitchen cupboard.

[Kim]

Or, if you must confine them to doing the place-settings and cutlery, the ideal is to have two dishwashers. Tthen you don't even need a kitchen cupboard.

That's either genius, or insanity.  I'm not entirely sure which.

[clarion]

...If you've got a dishwasher, it's using less energy and less water to clean your pans than you would use in washing up by hand. ...

Not convinced by that.  A dishwasher uses about 25 litres of water, doesn't it?

Googling tells me a typical washing up bowl is 8l (I guess this is the total volume, so actual volume use dis smaller).

[Kim]

Yeah, but doing washing up properly requires more than a single bowl of manky water.

I believe dishwashers have got a *lot* better at rinsing with less water over the years.


Not that I'd want one.  They're an economy of scale thing.

[dasmoth]

Not convinced by that.  A dishwasher uses about 25 litres of water, doesn't it?

A few years ago, maybe.

Picking the first full-size dishwasher I saw on the Bosch website gives a figure of 12L per cycle.  I'm pretty sure you can go a bit lower than that.  So long as you only run in when it's nearly full, it'll be washing a lot more than you'd really want to put through one bowl of hand-washing water.

We'd have one in a shot if there was space in the kitchen.

Edit: the next one on the list says 6L!.

[Wowbagger]

If I wash up by hand, it uses a lot less energy from fossil fuels than the dishwasher does. We have a solar panel for the hot water.

The trouble is, the water is hot enough for washing up only about 70% of the time that you need it.

[L CC]

We'd have one in a shot if there was space in the kitchen.

ClickityClick

A dishwasher saved my sister's life. TRUFAX.

[Kim]

If I wash up by hand, it uses a lot less energy from fossil fuels than the dishwasher does. We have a solar panel for the hot water.

This is where the demise of the hot feed was a retrograde step.  Sure, if it's only drawing off a few litres, it's not going to get much from a tank upstairs, but if it's basically free hot water, or from a combi all of half a metre away, it seems daft not to.

[Valiant]

I do all our dish washing by hand. It's therapeutic. Hell I waste a lot of water too.

[Pancho]

EDIT: I tried the bath once (for the bike components, you understand).
I am never, ever, ever going to do that again.

I thought my washing an oily, muddy bike in the bath was a bad domestic sin until the day I tried to wash a sail in the shower.

[clarion]

Washed up last night.  One bowl, and everything's clean.  Might use more detergent than a dishwasher.  Might use more energy to heat a small amount of water to a lower temperature than the dishwasher needs for a larger volume.  I didn't need to add salt.

Oh - and crucially, I got everything clean, which no dishwasher I've ever known can.  In fact, it seems a pretty normal part of the procedure for dishwasher owners to steep the pots, put pans and cutlery back for another go, or wash them conventionally anyway to get the dried gak off.

[ian]

Washed up last night.  One bowl, and everything's clean.  Might use more detergent than a dishwasher.  Might use more energy to heat a small amount of water to a lower temperature than the dishwasher needs for a larger volume.  I didn't need to add salt.

Oh - and crucially, I got everything clean, which no dishwasher I've ever known can.  In fact, it seems a pretty normal part of the procedure for dishwasher owners to steep the pots, put pans and cutlery back for another go, or wash them conventionally anyway to get the dried gak off.

Teuton dishwasher fears no dirty pan or casserole dish. On the off-chance that something isn't gleaming, it doesn't get to escape, and goes through another cycle. Salt? I just feed it one of those all-in-one tabs.

It occurs to be me that I've become decadent. I don't wash pots, vacuum, clean the house, or iron. From my great-great gran who was apparently a 'domestic servant' to feckless layabout in so few generations.

[Panoramix]

EDIT: I tried the bath once (for the bike components, you understand).
I am never, ever, ever going to do that again.

I thought my washing an oily, muddy bike in the bath was a bad domestic sin until the day I tried to wash a sail in the shower.

A sail is just salty.