Author Topic: What new tyres would you like to see?  (Read 47159 times)

KidJambo

  • Ex-sales manager for Michelin bicycle tyres
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Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #175 on: 30 June, 2010, 06:13:31 am »
Pro3 are mostly 50% dearer than Krylion, with a shorter predicted lifespan.

They should be 50% dearer but doubt they are in reality...although they do last about twice as long! :D
I'm quoting from prices online.

Krylion - £19.99
Pro3 = £30.99


Just sat with my supply chain guy now in France - won't see any 25C Krylions globaly until the end of August at least - production capacity has been an aissue and they have been told to prioritise production onto key products and the Krylion, in 25C anyway, does not fall into that catagory. Sorry folks!
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Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #176 on: 30 June, 2010, 07:29:41 am »
I never pay more than £22 for Pro 3 tyres.  Haven't tried Krylions yet

Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #177 on: 30 June, 2010, 07:54:18 am »
won't see any 25C Krylions globaly until the end of August at least

Bah. I'll just have to stock up a bit when they appear. Thanks for the info KidJambo.

Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #178 on: 30 June, 2010, 10:46:13 am »

Just sat with my supply chain guy now in France - won't see any 25C Krylions globaly until the end of August at least - production capacity has been an aissue and they have been told to prioritise production onto key products and the Krylion, in 25C anyway, does not fall into that catagory. Sorry folks!

KJ - Where does the Pro Race in 25C fit in the scheme of priorities?

Anyone know of any stocks of those - at a competitive price?

Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #179 on: 30 June, 2010, 10:48:18 am »
CRC have them for 24.99 if you buy 3.

Group buy, anyone?
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Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #180 on: 02 July, 2010, 04:23:46 pm »
CRC have them for 24.99 if you buy 3.

Group buy, anyone?

£48.50 for 2 at Ribble with offer code Tour6

Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #181 on: 02 July, 2010, 04:58:56 pm »
CRC have them for 24.99 if you buy 3.

Group buy, anyone?

£48.50 for 2 at Ribble with offer code Tour6

We are after 25mm
tRibble don't stock them.
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KidJambo

  • Ex-sales manager for Michelin bicycle tyres
    • Michelin Tyres
Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #182 on: 05 July, 2010, 07:52:59 am »

Just sat with my supply chain guy now in France - won't see any 25C Krylions globaly until the end of August at least - production capacity has been an aissue and they have been told to prioritise production onto key products and the Krylion, in 25C anyway, does not fall into that catagory. Sorry folks!

KJ - Where does the Pro Race in 25C fit in the scheme of priorities?

Anyone know of any stocks of those - at a competitive price?

Pro 3 Race is higher priority than any other range but not the 25C version which sells less than the 25C in Krylion Carbon
No longer responsible for bicycle tyres at Michelin - although I know the guy who is - but will stick around as I am a keen cyclist first and foremost...with a Michelin-biased understanding of tyres!

Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #183 on: 05 July, 2010, 02:49:03 pm »


We are after 25mm
tRibble don't stock them.

They don't stock the Krylion 25, but they show stock of the Pro Race 3 in 25
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Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #184 on: 06 July, 2010, 02:27:45 pm »
I've been planning to get some 25mm Krylion's in the autumn hoping the current 23mm ProRace3's will last until then. However, I've just spotted a cut in the rear (1500 miles) from part way across tread to half way across sidewall. The outer rubber is cut through and there's some damage to the inner layer but none showing from the inside. There's a very slight bulge with the tyre at pressure (hardly anything though). I'm not sure how long it will last so I've ordered a 23mm Krylion in case.

Actually I'm beginning to wonder whether a ProRace3 on the front and a harder wearing Krylion on the back is a sensible compromise for summer use.

KidJambo

  • Ex-sales manager for Michelin bicycle tyres
    • Michelin Tyres
Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #185 on: 06 July, 2010, 02:34:57 pm »
I've been planning to get some 25mm Krylion's in the autumn hoping the current 23mm ProRace3's will last until then. However, I've just spotted a cut in the rear (1500 miles) from part way across tread to half way across sidewall. The outer rubber is cut through and there's some damage to the inner layer but none showing from the inside. There's a very slight bulge with the tyre at pressure (hardly anything though). I'm not sure how long it will last so I've ordered a 23mm Krylion in case.

Actually I'm beginning to wonder whether a ProRace3 on the front and a harder wearing Krylion on the back is a sensible compromise for summer use.

Or maybe the new Michelin Pro Optimum??
No longer responsible for bicycle tyres at Michelin - although I know the guy who is - but will stick around as I am a keen cyclist first and foremost...with a Michelin-biased understanding of tyres!

Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #186 on: 06 July, 2010, 02:37:01 pm »
I'm going to try them next for audax - running PR2s that I had lying around at the moment. 

KidJambo

  • Ex-sales manager for Michelin bicycle tyres
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Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #187 on: 06 July, 2010, 02:49:46 pm »
I'm going to try them next for audax - running PR2s that I had lying around at the moment. 

We are moving our exhibition/publicity stores and I am having a spring clean of stuff - found a pair of original Axial Pro tyres - Halloween ones in black and orange with little pumpkins around the sidewall - they would look lovely on that Orbea I have my eye on! LOL
No longer responsible for bicycle tyres at Michelin - although I know the guy who is - but will stick around as I am a keen cyclist first and foremost...with a Michelin-biased understanding of tyres!

Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #188 on: 06 July, 2010, 02:52:54 pm »
:-)

No review samples of Optimums I suppose?   ;D

KidJambo

  • Ex-sales manager for Michelin bicycle tyres
    • Michelin Tyres
Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #189 on: 06 July, 2010, 02:54:55 pm »
:-)

No review samples of Optimums I suppose?   ;D

No bloody tyres FULL STOP! :"(
No longer responsible for bicycle tyres at Michelin - although I know the guy who is - but will stick around as I am a keen cyclist first and foremost...with a Michelin-biased understanding of tyres!

Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #190 on: 06 July, 2010, 03:05:11 pm »
I know that you have little influence, but can you point out to your superiors that they are going to start losing customer?

I thought I'd found my perfect tyre in the carbon 25, but I can't wait months for michelin to get round to making some more. I'm not going to spend more on a tyre that doesn't last as long.

so I'll probably end up buying another pasela tg.

It's hard to recommend a tyre to someone when it just isn't available.
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KidJambo

  • Ex-sales manager for Michelin bicycle tyres
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Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #191 on: 06 July, 2010, 03:08:15 pm »
I know that you have little influence, but can you point out to your superiors that they are going to start losing customer?

I thought I'd found my perfect tyre in the carbon 25, but I can't wait months for michelin to get round to making some more. I'm not going to spend more on a tyre that doesn't last as long.

so I'll probably end up buying another pasela tg.

It's hard to recommend a tyre to someone when it just isn't available.

I have little influence? Do you know who I am?? LOL

Actually, we are largely at the mercy of local conditions being as we produce in the far east - apparently the political disruption in Thailand earlier in the year screwed everything up and took us a while for us to resolve. We are now back at full capacity and of all of the current back orders of tyres and tubes, 50% will be cleared this month and 90% of the total by the end of next month with a priority given to premium road tyres...but maybe not in 25C!
No longer responsible for bicycle tyres at Michelin - although I know the guy who is - but will stick around as I am a keen cyclist first and foremost...with a Michelin-biased understanding of tyres!

Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #192 on: 06 July, 2010, 03:19:18 pm »
I have little influence? Do you know who I am?? LOL


You're KJ, who keeps telling us about tyres that never appear.  :demon:
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KidJambo

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Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #193 on: 06 July, 2010, 03:23:15 pm »
I have little influence? Do you know who I am?? LOL


You're KJ, who keeps telling us about tyres that never appear.  :demon:

Thats not actually my offical job title although its all I seem to do at the moment - trust me I am as p*ssed off as everyone else as I provision what the UK are going to sell, forecast my production demands and outline my product needs and then they don't make what I want which leaves me fending enquiries from customers all day when I should be doing something fun! :"(
No longer responsible for bicycle tyres at Michelin - although I know the guy who is - but will stick around as I am a keen cyclist first and foremost...with a Michelin-biased understanding of tyres!

Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #194 on: 06 July, 2010, 03:25:41 pm »
Move the factory to Crumlin.  You know it makes sense.

KidJambo

  • Ex-sales manager for Michelin bicycle tyres
    • Michelin Tyres
Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #195 on: 06 July, 2010, 03:33:03 pm »
Move the factory to Crumlin.  You know it makes sense.

Crumlin as in Ireland?? I think the labour costs might be slightly jigher than the Far East! :s
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mattc

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Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #196 on: 12 August, 2010, 02:33:31 pm »
So how come everyone's got 23mm grey Pro Race 3 tyres reduced to 20 squid? I've bought a few - is there something I should know?!?

[I actually destroyed a brand new one days before the MC1K - metal staple/tie thing went straight through sidewall and tube. Fortunately the other one has managed 800 miles without trouble.]

And how come the 2 that just arrived from Planet X had no packaging (it was like opening a bag of snakes) ?

EDIT: oooops. I seem to have purchased the "Light" model this time. Guess I'll reserve these for special occasions / good conditions only.
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Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #197 on: 12 August, 2010, 02:40:53 pm »
No packaging probably means OEM

I don't think I've ever paid more than £22 for a PR3, only a fool pays the rrp.
Maybe there is a PR4 coming out soon?

Great great tyres, but easily trashed.  I've got a couple of Krylion carbons on the way.  £19 from CRC.  Am prepared to sacrifice a bit of speed for longevity.

Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #198 on: 12 August, 2010, 04:30:55 pm »
Anyone seen cheap PR3s around in pale blue?
I've have the grey ones (and they're getting thin) they're just a bit too dull... for a tart like me  ::-)

KidJambo

  • Ex-sales manager for Michelin bicycle tyres
    • Michelin Tyres
Re: What new tyres would you like to see?
« Reply #199 on: 12 August, 2010, 04:37:07 pm »
So how come everyone's got 23mm grey Pro Race 3 tyres reduced to 20 squid? I've bought a few - is there something I should know?!?

The dark grey version was removed from the line-up of colours for 2010 and replaced by the all black tyre. Any residual stock would have been liquidated to our wholesale distribution partners - including any OEM stocks which would be loose/unpackaged. Hope this answers your questions!
No longer responsible for bicycle tyres at Michelin - although I know the guy who is - but will stick around as I am a keen cyclist first and foremost...with a Michelin-biased understanding of tyres!