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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1675 on: 01 July, 2013, 03:38:06 pm »
Not sure if it's ASO behind the proposed announcement of (French?) rider positives for EPO during the 1998 and 1999 tour on the day of this years Alp d'Huez stage..

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/14865/Tour-riders-protest-to-French-sports-minister-about-focus-on-doping-in-the-past-say-cycling-is-being-harmed.aspx
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1676 on: 01 July, 2013, 03:58:10 pm »
It's the French Senate. My mention of ASO was in relation to esl's post

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1677 on: 02 July, 2013, 09:00:32 pm »
It is about to get very messy......on the day of the Queen stage of the Tour, the French Senate will release the names of about 40 riders from the "98 Tour who's samples have been retrospectively tested and found positive.

The issue of the report is to be delayed till after the end of the tour.

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1678 on: 02 July, 2013, 09:12:38 pm »
Good. It would overshadow the Tour.

Could also have been very embarrassing for a fair number of Team support staff/DSs and some current riders

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1679 on: 04 July, 2013, 02:37:53 pm »
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1680 on: 06 July, 2013, 04:19:46 pm »
Sean Yates on Eurosport looking like a fairground worker with a mullet, a dangly gold earring... and a Livestrong band. You have to wonder about anyone still wearing those.

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1681 on: 06 July, 2013, 07:38:31 pm »
Just in via @TheRaceRadio

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.@lancearmstrong has settled with the London Sunday Times and David Walsh for over 1 million pounds.

Refuted.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1682 on: 06 July, 2013, 08:23:04 pm »
By Walsh


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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1684 on: 15 July, 2013, 09:07:00 am »
Gay's statement is a bit confusing. " I don’t want to use certain words, to make it seem like an accident, because I know exactly what went on, but I can’t discuss it right now. ... I do realise and respect what I put in my body, and it is my responsibility. I’m going to be honest with Usada, about everything, everybody I’ve been with, every supplement I’ve ever taken, every company I’ve ever dealt with, everything.” but also “I basically put my trust in someone and was let down.” Maybe he's admitting knowingly doping but blaming his trainer (or someone) for telling him he wouldn't be caught?!
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1685 on: 15 July, 2013, 10:36:19 am »
Sounds like it.

I see Asafa Powell is using a version of Contador's "dodgy steak" wheeze.

They must think we're as stupid as they are.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1686 on: 16 July, 2013, 09:18:23 am »
I read that over 70 medical products were found in Powell's hotel room in Italy. 70?? Not even the most paranoid hypochondriac needs that much medication, let alone a very fit young man at the peak of health. I'll post the link if I can find it.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1687 on: 16 July, 2013, 09:38:15 am »
Even I don't carry that many, and I regard myself as a sub-branch of the local pharmacy.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1688 on: 21 July, 2013, 02:36:01 pm »
Interview with Dave Walsh  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkARvYIwT8E

Nothing new, but interesting

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1689 on: 21 July, 2013, 02:40:42 pm »
I read that over 70 medical products were found in Powell's hotel room in Italy. 70?? Not even the most paranoid hypochondriac needs that much medication, let alone a very fit young man at the peak of health. I'll post the link if I can find it.

Cozy Powell? 70? That's normal for a rock star isn't it?

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1690 on: 21 July, 2013, 03:40:22 pm »
It would make sense if it had been Colin.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1691 on: 22 July, 2013, 09:31:17 am »
I read that over 70 medical products were found in Powell's hotel room in Italy. 70?? Not even the most paranoid hypochondriac needs that much medication, let alone a very fit young man at the peak of health. I'll post the link if I can find it.

Cozy Powell? 70? That's normal for a rock star isn't it?

Don't be silly.  They meant Enoch.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1692 on: 22 July, 2013, 10:33:02 am »
I read that over 70 medical products were found in Powell's hotel room in Italy. 70?? Not even the most paranoid hypochondriac needs that much medication, let alone a very fit young man at the peak of health. I'll post the link if I can find it.

Cozy Powell? 70? That's normal for a rock star isn't it?

Don't be silly.  They meant Enoch.

Ah yes. Remember his 'bags of blood' speech? He was proved right.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1693 on: 22 July, 2013, 09:47:32 pm »

Who wants to play join the dots before Wednesday's report is published?  Just a bit of fun with some incomplete and probably inaccurate data.

http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=2718.msg106363#msg106363

I'd be really disappointed, not to say stunned, if Boardman were named.

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1694 on: 24 July, 2013, 11:33:09 am »
The report has just been published, but the pdf is taking its time to download.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1695 on: 24 July, 2013, 11:34:26 am »
The report has just been published, but the pdf is taking its time to download.

I suspect you're not the only one trying to download it.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1696 on: 24 July, 2013, 11:36:01 am »
The report has just been published, but the pdf is taking its time to download.

I suspect you're not the only one trying to download it.

I think you may have a point there.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1697 on: 24 July, 2013, 11:49:47 am »
Link here if anyone else wants to join the queue...
http://www.senat.fr/notice-rapport/2012/r12-782-2-notice.html

Or follow @AlexandreMignot on Twitter.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1698 on: 24 July, 2013, 11:51:46 am »
Jacky Durand's come clean already:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/durand-admits-name-will-be-on-french-senate-list-of-epo-positives

And last month, L'Equipe fingered Laurent Jalabert as testing positive in the 1998 TdF, so that's two for a start:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/jalabert-tests-positive-for-epo-at-1998-tour-de-france

Edit:

Le Monde have named Laurent Desbiens, Marco Pantani, Jan Ulrich, Bobby Julich, Erik Zabel, Mario Cipolloni, Andrea Tafi, Fabio Sacchi and Jeroen Blijlevens.

http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/article/2013/07/23/dopage-comme-jalabert-durand-et-desbiens-positifs-a-l-epo-en-1998_3452608_3242.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#ens_id=1829004&xtor=RSS-3208
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1699 on: 24 July, 2013, 12:10:17 pm »
Of course, it's worth noting that the French Senate report is on doping in sport in general, not just cycling in particular. The list of positives from the 1998 TdF is merely one of the appendices...

http://inrng.com/2013/07/the-french-senate-test/#more-16319
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