It's interesting hearing Liverpool fans of a certain age.Oi! >:(
It's interesting hearing Liverpool fans of a certain age.Oi! >:(
Hmmm. Your loyalty does something credit!Neco Williams and Larouci are the reserve fullbacks. The only other players to have played fullback this season are Milner (injured), Henderson (CM, massively in the red after playing every game since November) and Gomez (CB, has also played every game since November). Mane is already out - he twanged his hamstring against Wolves.
Liverpool are "world champions", European champions, Premier League runners-up and Champions elect. Yet they haven't got any reserve fullbacks? Who's running the scouting and the bank, then? And while I can see that losing ALL of VVD, Firmino, Salah and Mane might be a problem, the odd one shouldn't be a problem.
No, Klopp underestimated the task, plain and simple!
Double sadly I was actually in Liverpool when it happened, not Vicarage Road.
I make that two wins needed now by Liverpool to lift the title or less if Man City lose or draw again.
Man City lost to Man United.I confess to a small snigger about this. My bro-in-law is a card-carrying City supporter, sufficiently keen to have travelled to Madrid a week or two ago. He's a lovely chap, but oozes Smug, so I'm always quite pleased when City lose.
I make that two wins needed now by Liverpool to lift the title or less if Man City lose or draw again.
There are only 10 matches left to play (9 for some teams including Liverpool) so a max of 30 points. Liverpool are already more than 30 points ahead of everyone bar Man City who are 25 behind with ten to play. Liverpool need six points from nine matches to be uncatchable.
They should use the Duckworth-Lewis method.
They should use the Duckworth-Lewis method.
That would probably end up with Southampton being crowned champions.
They should use the Scaryduckworth-Lewis method.
I think if the resumption of this season is delayed into what is nominally next season, so August 2020, it will cease to make sense to complete it. Therefore it will probably be an uncompleted season. In fact, an uncompleted season followed by either a fallow season or some sort of half-season. Whether champions will becrownedoops, awarded, will presumably come down to league by league decisions.
It's a mess. :(That at least is certain!
She seems like a nice, genuine girl...A pleasure Steve :-*
Thank you Matty for sharing -
Just a pipe dream but I was wondering whether we might come out of this all with a desire for amateur sport again and kiss goodbye to the values that have distorted the sports we love for so long. There has been football for a couple of weeks, England have decided against an embarrassing Test defeat in Sri Lanka and the world is still going round. Pro sport - who needs it.....?! Obviously there will be a knock-on effect in the steroids industry, etc. But that has to be balanced against no more pundits..... Just dreaming, as I said.
Just a pipe dream but I was wondering whether we might come out of this all with a desire for amateur sport again and kiss goodbye to the values that have distorted the sports we love for so long. There has been football for a couple of weeks, England have decided against an embarrassing Test defeat in Sri Lanka and the world is still going round. Pro sport - who needs it.....?! Obviously there will be a knock-on effect in the steroids industry, etc. But that has to be balanced against no more pundits..... Just dreaming, as I said.You are the new John Lennon (sports dept, anyway). Do you have a Yoko yet??
>:( I know there are other clubs doing it, and many other businesses will do so, but Carra is right. LFC should do the right thing, not the easy thing. >:(As you say, plenty of other businesses doing it - it feels like footballers are an easy target here. There isn't an easy answer here, it looks like most PL players are trying to do something.
Or could have simply Done The Right Thing.That's an interesting statement. Many football clubs will be using this scheme, and it will be a lifeline for many smaller clubs that will stop them going under. At least 4 other premier league clubs have used the scheme (including the one who made the biggest profit last year).
John Henry, the owner, is widely perceived as one of the good guys
I think the last one.
But you are right, they were all good!
Which reminds me, I must find a rerun of the Watford - Liverpool match to watch. I missed it live ;D
The other thing about the last goal is that Mane recovers the loose ball midway inside the Liverpool half (right on the touchline) and starts his run from there.I think the last one.
But you are right, they were all good!
The other thing about the last goal is that Mane recovers the loose ball midway inside the Liverpool half (right on the touchline) and starts his run from there.
Interesting to see Pep Guardiola three times in the top ten with three different teams.
Winning all four remaining games is a distinct possibility. Three wins and a draw would be 102 points, which would put Liverpool's two-season aggregate one point ahead of Man City's 198 amassed over the previous two seasons.
The current 92 points is already the sixth-highest title winning total ever - and two of the higher totals are from City's 17-18 and 18-19 seasons, which is mad. Between City and Liverpool, they've raised the bar to ridiculous levels over the past three seasons.
There's a website that rates clubs using an Elo-type scoring system (a reference Wowbagger should get!), and they rate this year's Liverpool as the fourth greatest team of all time.
http://clubelo.com/Stats
The last (and only) team to win all its home games was Sunderland in 1892, when there were only 13 home games in the season (and they lost five of their away games). Incidentally, the same year Liverpool FC was formed.
The last (and only) team to win all its home games was Sunderland in 1892, when there were only 13 home games in the season (and they lost five of their away games). Incidentally, the same year Liverpool FC was formed.
That game last night could have had about 12 goals!A suitably mad game to crown a crazy season. No-one looked happier than Klopp. Who can deny his unbounbing passion for the game. Great celebrations in our house (including the normally passive cats that had a mad hour to coincide with the ceremony).
This seasons home league record - W18, D1.
But I think Chelsea were unlucky that Sadio Mane wasn't sent off for what appeared to me to be a blatant dive
However, there did seem to be enough time for Mane to think, "Hang on, what is it I'm supposed to do in this situation? Oh, I remember....."
I would have thought that Lampard would have known the rules but he has to defend his player.
I would have thought that Lampard would have known the rules but he has to defend his player.
I have no axe to grind with Lampard's reaction. It's only right that managers defend their players.
Anyway, I'm a Liverpool fan, I've got nothing to moan about. Life is good.
Peter, I don't much care about the result on Sunday - I could even take a defeat, as long as Salah gets a goal to match Roger Hunt's record of scoring 20+ in the league in three consecutive seasons. He's still agonisingly one short...
Several Liverpool players have been confirmed as having had covid, and there are a few more suspected but unconfirmed.
Shaquiri got first, Keita and Tiago tested positive for covid around the last international break https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/410566-thiago-alcantara-tests-positive-for-covid-19 , and Mane missed the Villa game with covid https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/411091-sadio-mane-tests-positive-for-covid-19.Several Liverpool players have been confirmed as having had covid, and there are a few more suspected but unconfirmed.
Can't see anything online about this. Got a link?
Shaquiri got first
Liverpool top - with the worst defensive record in the division; 15 conceded. 7 of those were against Aston Villa and Saint Van Dijk, the "world's greatest defender ever" was playing for Liverpool.
Ah OK. Past tense. You had me worried that they would be missing half their squad for the next few matches :o ;D
Ajax, who played Liverpool in the Champions League two weeks ago, currently have 11 players out with covid.That could make a huge difference to the Champions League. They won 13-0 in the Eredivisie very recently, but if they have a load of players out they will find Midjtyland a lot harder (and they aren't bad).
Current table makes interesting reading:-
Liverpool top - with the worst defensive record in the division; 15 conceded. 7 of those were against Aston Villa and Saint Van Dijk, the "world's greatest defender ever" was playing for Liverpool. It's going to be an interesting season, though I suspect it may be abandoned when the authorities finally realise what an appalling example sportsmen are setting with their cuddling and snogging!
Perhaps the way to decide about crowds might be to study the Scottish lower divisions, where absence of crowds is normal at all times.
Perhaps the way to decide about crowds might be to study the Scottish lower divisions, where absence of crowds is normal at all times.
There was a surreal televised game a few years ago between Rangers (relegated and fighting their way back up through the leagues) and Brechin City. There were a few locals standing by the sideline on a bleak Scottish winter's afternoon and there was some choice language (thenceforth known as Brechinese) when Rangers players were taking throw-ins or corners just inches away, all picked up on the live broadcast mics.
Just to get back to actual football, did you watch the Villa game? It was insane. Probably the most ridiculously open game of football I have ever seen. Villa could easily have got into double figures if their finishing had been better, and Liverpool should have bagged half a dozen goals themselves, despite being absolutely dreadful in all areas of the pitch.Stupidly bonkers that game.
Kind of nice to see evidence that Van Dijk is actually human and not some mad football cyborg sent back from the future. ;D
Also a lot of teams have taken up the "defend high up the pitch and press even higher" philosophy" with varying degrees of success. Done well this gets a lot of goals. If it all goes wrong the opposition get goals as per the Villa match.
The absence of crowds is probably a red herring introduced to try and explain away these crazy results without having to admit that these hitherto invincible players are actually nothing special. After all, ALL teams are playing without crowds, so that should even out. Perhaps the way to decide about crowds might be to study the Scottish lower divisions, where absence of crowds is normal at all times. I wonder if their results are noticeably different under covid, but it's too tedious to allow of analysis!I'm not saying that the presence or absence of a crowd is responsible for Liverpool conceding 7 or Utd conceding 6 or Citeh conceding 5 or any of the other high scoring results. Last year Southampton conceded 9, and they were actually pretty good.
The goal that Man U conceded against Istanbul Basaksehir on Wednesday is a good example, see this image:-
The goal that Man U conceded against Istanbul Basaksehir on Wednesday is a good example, see this image:-
That really is not a good example of the high press - it's more an example of a team in total disarray. Their defending was absolutely shocking in that game.
Well, yes, that was the joke.
(And an excuse to bring up Demba Ba in a Liverpool thread...)
Nah, give Billy Koumetio a run out. Only 17 but looks like he would put the fear of god into the average Premier League striker.He's a real prospect, but you don't want to play him alongside another youngster. A back 4 of Neco Williams, Rhys Williams, Nat Philips and Andy Robertson looks like a league cup lineup. And Robbo needs a rest too. I've not included Matip, because he managed a total of 13 appearances last season (that's appearances, not starts). If he or Fab are fit it looks a bit better, but I reckon we'll be seeing Milner at fullback and a CM at CB a few times in the next couple of months.
Agreed that it wouldn't be a good idea to sign an indifferent stop-gap defender, but that's not the way Lpool do things these days. They will pay top dollar for a long-term signing, and their recent signings have all been fantastic both ability-wise and financially.
If the answer is "Daryl Janmaat", you're probably asking the wrong question.Especially since he's an indifferent right back! :)
Fernandez hitting the linesman in a fit of petulance.Could this not be reviewed retrospectively? And indeed, should it not be?
Fernandez hitting the linesman in a fit of petulance.Could this not be reviewed retrospectively? And indeed, should it not be?
So why exactly is the Liverpool/Inter Champions League final in Turkey? That's a lot of extra travelling miles/hassle...
West Ham v Dukla Prague Away Kit in Fiorentina?So why exactly is the Liverpool/Inter Champions League final in Turkey? That's a lot of extra travelling miles/hassle...
If only ;D I think you'll find it's a certain other English team.
West Ham v Dukla Prague Away Kit in Fiorentina?So why exactly is the Liverpool/Inter Champions League final in Turkey? That's a lot of extra travelling miles/hassle...
If only ;D I think you'll find it's a certain other English team.
So why exactly is the Liverpool/Inter Champions League final in Turkey? That's a lot of extra travelling miles/hassle...
If only ;D I think you'll find it's a certain other English team.
West Ham v Dukla Prague Away Kit in Fiorentina?So why exactly is the Liverpool/Inter Champions League final in Turkey? That's a lot of extra travelling miles/hassle...
If only ;D I think you'll find it's a certain other English team.
A magnificent goal from Gerrard Bowen, taking away the pain of Steven Jarrod's goal that cost them last season's Big Cup of England. That's last season 17 years ago.West Ham v Dukla Prague Away Kit in Fiorentina?So why exactly is the Liverpool/Inter Champions League final in Turkey? That's a lot of extra travelling miles/hassle...
If only ;D I think you'll find it's a certain other English team.
The good news is that Liverpool won!
I can see either (a) him being persuaded to stay on a bit a la Sir Alex or (b) being brought back sharpish if his replacement isn't a rip roaring success.
A lot of Man United’s current problems are down to not having proper succession planning in place when Ferguson retired. I’ve also seen it suggested that Ferguson deliberately “salted the ground” to ensure his replacement wasn’t a success. Which is an interesting theory.
A lot of Man United’s current problems are down to not having proper succession planning in place when Ferguson retired. I’ve also seen it suggested that Ferguson deliberately “salted the ground” to ensure his replacement wasn’t a success. Which is an interesting theory.
The spent months prepping for Moyes' takeover.