The Grumble Thread - No energy for a full on rant.

[Tod28]

Took down a conifer of some sort for next door, stump only about 30 cm, drilled deep holes all over it with a spade bit and in a couple of years it had rotted away completely.
Should work on soft stumps such as yours, don't know about hard stumps. I must pop across the road and do that to some stumps of ash and a type of willow before this interregnum ends on Monday.

Put some ammonium sulphamate (used to be sold as 'rootout' but now only as compost accelerant) in the drilled holes to prevent regrowth on hardwoods and to accelerate decomposition on all varieties.

edited to remove big thumb errors!

[Mrs Pingu]

I want to put up a couple of rows of coat hooks in the vestibule, but the elastrickery meter and all that jazz are in there so obviously almost the whole wall goes wee-oo when I wave the deth detector at it.
So I guess they'll be going in the hall then.

[robgul]

I want to put up a couple of rows of coat hooks in the vestibule, but the elastrickery meter and all that jazz are in there so obviously almost the whole wall goes wee-oo when I wave the deth detector at it.
So I guess they'll be going in the hall then.

Wires in the wall are seldom running horizontally - and if they are under plaster would (should) be in a conduit cover  . . . 

[rafletcher]

I want to put up a couple of rows of coat hooks in the vestibule, but the elastrickery meter and all that jazz are in there so obviously almost the whole wall goes wee-oo when I wave the deth detector at it.
So I guess they'll be going in the hall then.

Hooks onto a batten / backboard, only need 2 -4 holes to fix it - or "no more nails" type stuff?

[Mrs Pingu]

It's a row of hooks on a board, getting the 2 holes in the right place on the wall was proving to be a challenge though. Although I guess I can drill a hole somewhere else in the board..

[Feanor]

What's the construction of the wall? Is it lath and plaster, or plasterboard?

[Mrs Pingu]

Plasterboard I think. I don't think it's weeooing at lath nails, it's fairly well concentrated above the meter cupboard.

[Feanor]

You want to find the mid-points of the wooden uprights behind the plasterboard.
This is what you will want to screw the hook board into.
Yes, this may involve re-drilling the hook board.
The wires will generally be going vertically between the uprights, not across them.

In this scenario, if you cannot see the vertical rows of plasterboard screws to show the line of the uprights, my preferred approach is to use a thin screwdriver to experimentally poke holes in the PB. It will simply push through anywhere between the uprights, but will not damage any wiring or pipework. If you have hit an upright, you will not be able to push it through. Give it a wiggle left and right to see if you can feel an upright. Move left or right, repeating this till you find an upright. Try to find the other side of the upright, and hence determine the mid-point.

The next one will usually be 16 or 24" / 400 or 600mm away, depending on vintage.

You will end up with a horizontal series of tiny holes which will be hidden behind the thing you are mounting. Un-hidden holes can either be filled or ignored, depending on where they are.

[PhilO]

I've had good results using 3M Command Strip hooks in our hallway, to avoid holes.  The kids' school bags (significantly heavier than most coats) have been well supported there for a few years now.

https://command.3m.co.uk/3M/en_GB/command-gb/products/?N=5002385+8711749+8723920+3294857496&rt=r3

[robgul]

You want to find the mid-points of the wooden uprights behind the plasterboard.
This is what you will want to screw the hook board into.
Yes, this may involve re-drilling the hook board.
The wires will generally be going vertically between the uprights, not across them.

In this scenario, if you cannot see the vertical rows of plasterboard screws to show the line of the uprights, my preferred approach is to use a thin screwdriver to experimentally poke holes in the PB. It will simply push through anywhere between the uprights, but will not damage any wiring or pipework. If you have hit an upright, you will not be able to push it through. Give it a wiggle left and right to see if you can feel an upright. Move left or right, repeating this till you find an upright. Try to find the other side of the upright, and hence determine the mid-point.

The next one will usually be 16 or 24" / 400 or 600mm away, depending on vintage.

You will end up with a horizontal series of tiny holes which will be hidden behind the thing you are mounting. Un-hidden holes can either be filled or ignored, depending on where they are.

That's my method of choice, with a bradawl - if you punch the holes behind where your board with the hooks will go you don't even need to fill the holes 

[ian]

Coat-stand!

[Mrs Pingu]

Well it's done. And I was reminded just how much I hate drilling into walls. (Years of living with lath & plaster did that).
2021-09-28_05-21-33 by The Pingus, on Flickr

[ian]

This may astonish you, but I also used to live at number 51.

Alas, The Asbestos Power is not a number, it's a name. Though filthily common so I have to tear down the signs for any houses that I see with the same name. There can be only one.

[robgul]

Well it's done. And I was reminded just how much I hate drilling into walls.
2021-09-28_05-21-33 by The Pingus, on Flickr

I hope that the hooks and coats hanging thereon don't foul the door when it's opened . . .   just saying.

[Mrs Pingu]

There was nowhere else for it to go on that wall so had no choice, but it seems ok. Will probably have the 2nd set I bought put up in the kitchen cupboard under the stairs for overspill though.

[Beardy]

That’s a strange place for a toilet roll holder.

[Mrs Pingu]

Haha, you like the previous owner's naff choice of handles then? 
Which reminds me, I still need to find a replacement knob for the vestibule door...

[The Family Cyclist]

This should probably make rant but last year the next door but one neighbours who's garden we go through to access ours said to help ourselves to apples as their tree which we had already been scrumping off was laden with beautiful fruit and they could store no more.

They sadly moved and I realised when ilooked this week that the new owner has chopped the tree down. I am utterly bewildered as to why you would although my other neighbours did the same with their two apple trees as only like golden delicious

Neither are gardeners but a tree giving you free apples seems a no brainer to me

And now the house which had the wonderful apple tree chopped down has gone on the market. If there's any time between the current and new owners moving out and in I'm considering guerrilla planting an apple tree

[Mr Larrington]

In the absence of a “Geography the makes you cringe” thread I'd like to inform the clot currently presenting a feature of offshore wind farms on the BBC News Channel that Grimsby is not now and never has been in East Yorkshire

[ElyDave]

In the absence of a “Geography the makes you cringe” thread I'd like to inform the clot currently presenting a feature of offshore wind farms on the BBC News Channel that Grimsby is not now and never has been in East Yorkshire

Absobloodylutely, the closest it got was humberside, but I don't think that went down well between Grimsby and Hull

[Beardy]

Humberside was only ever a reality in the minds of the hot air factory that is Westminster. Those that live north and south of the Humber reside, as always, in the East Ryding of Yorkshire and Lincolnshire respectively

[Pingu]

And may dog have mercy on their souls.

[Mrs Pingu]

We only want a shed. Nothing fancy, just a shed for gardening tat.
Local firm recommended by Pingu's co-worker "February at the earliest"
Greenhousepeople/Dobbies "12 week delivery"
Somewhere else local "we've got one in stock" \o/ Drive out there to have a look, it looks like crap. 

Thanks brexshit.

[robgul]

We only want a shed. Nothing fancy, just a shed for gardening tat.
Local firm recommended by Pingu's co-worker "February at the earliest"
Greenhousepeople/Dobbies "12 week delivery"
Somewhere else local "we've got one in stock" \o/ Drive out there to have a look, it looks like crap. 

Thanks brexshit.

Try Tiger Sheds - excellent quality and some on 4-5 week delivery (but may cost you more being near the Arctic Circle)

[Canardly]

Expensive but well put together.
http://www.beastsheds.co.uk/beast-sheds