Author Topic: Sportive or fast tourer for brother-in-law  (Read 2403 times)

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Sportive or fast tourer for brother-in-law
« on: September 22, 2014, 12:14:33 pm »
Brother-in-law has, at present, a aluminium-framed hybrid bike, which I tried riding yesterday, and it has to be said, is like riding concrete. It's so stiff, and every feel from the road is transferred through the arms and backside. Yarooh! And that was just being on it for a minute!

He was looking at a Specialised Roubaix (which has the fork and seat-stay dampeners) at tried it out and, there's so much difference in comfort between this and his current steed. At present, he's smitten with this one, but that's all he's tried. He's never going to be actually racing, but likes the geometry of a 'race' bike. Though I'd say buy something for comfort that you can spend time on, and not swear about when you get off.

So can peeps have collective thoughts, and suggest anything else that might be suitable?

Much appreciated. Obviously, he doesn't want to be spending bonkers money. Who does!?
Certainly never seen cycling south of Sussex

Re: Sportive or fast tourer for brother-in-law
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2014, 12:34:40 pm »
I'd suggest he checks the tyre pressures on anything he tests. That will make more difference than frame inserts.

Re: Sportive or fast tourer for brother-in-law
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2014, 12:45:05 pm »
And tyre width. I would think the ability to fit wider tyres would have a much greater effect on comfort than frame material. I recently switched from 23mm to 25mm tyres on an aluminium framed bike and it's made a big difference. I'll be trying 28s next (but that's the limit to this madness).

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Re: Sportive or fast tourer for brother-in-law
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2014, 12:48:24 pm »
Yes, he has got skinnies on, and no, I didn't check the 'mm' on them, and I suggested he might try a chunkier tyre, but he also would like to get a better bike too methinks, and is unlikely to be dissuaded.
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Re: Sportive or fast tourer for brother-in-law
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2014, 12:19:04 pm »
As all the main bike brands manufacture a 'sportive' or comfort or Roubaix type bike I would think all of them will be so different to the ride he's used to that they will all be similar the Roubaix he appears to have fallen for so in reality he probably won't notice a huge difference between them all - particularly on a short test ride around the block from the bike shop. I'm sure I read somewhere the Zertz inserts don't actually do anything, it's the hole in the forks and seat stays the inserts occupy that allows the flex.

I'm afraid the usual rules apply that he should ride a few different bikes and see what is the most comfortable. If the sizing and geometry suits then he should be comfortable and that will be the bike for him.

Personally I would look at the smaller brands and not necessarily go for 'off the peg' carbon which doesn't do anything for me. This is why I ended up on a Genesis Equilibrium which I am delighted with but I wanted something that didn't look like everyone else's bike and I knew was designed exactly for long days in the saddle rather than racing which most of us don't do anyway.
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Re: Sportive or fast tourer for brother-in-law
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2014, 12:51:15 pm »
Personally I would look at the smaller brands and not necessarily go for 'off the peg' carbon which doesn't do anything for me. This is why I ended up on a Genesis Equilibrium which I am delighted with but I wanted something that didn't look like everyone else's bike and I knew was designed exactly for long days in the saddle rather than racing which most of us don't do anyway.

This is the path I went down. I test-rode a Specialized Roubaix and while it was nice to ride, I found it a little too sporty and slightly unimpressive. I then took an Equilibrium for a test ride and instantly felt much more at home on it. That's what I ended up buying, too - and I agree that it's nice that it's not the same as everyone else's Giant/Trek/Specialized too.

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Re: Sportive or fast tourer for brother-in-law
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2014, 12:57:50 pm »
Thanks for the thoughts and input chaps. i shall pass these on.
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Re: Sportive or fast tourer for brother-in-law
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2014, 01:02:25 pm »
Read all the reviews for the TREK Domane.  I have the 4.3 but other models are available for various budgets.

It's a game-changer as far as comfort goes.  It's sold as a Sportive bike (higher front end than a true road race bike) so it suits the less-flexible.  The De-coupler makes the back end super smooth over rough tarmac (it was designed so that Cancellara could keep the power on over Belgian Pave).

Sportive Bike.  Translation:A bike suitable for old codgers to feel like they are actually a top Pro.
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Re: Sportive or fast tourer for brother-in-law
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2014, 04:18:03 pm »
+1 on the Domane as far as a comfort bike goes and you can give it some gas if you are in the mood too. I guess ultimately it is very similar in appeal to the Specialized.

One thing that ended up convincing me to go to a Trek (I was determined to stay away from the 'big' brands initially) was the fact they have a lifetime warranty on the frame and I know a few people who have had a frame replace after several years of use.

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Re: Sportive or fast tourer for brother-in-law
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2014, 02:18:14 pm »
I think that Specialized offer something similar as well.

Do not rule out Giant their 2015 bikes are quite nice.

LEE

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Re: Sportive or fast tourer for brother-in-law
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2014, 03:09:04 pm »
Whatever you do...RIDE THEM before buying.

They all look the same, and the marketing blurb all makes them sound like the best bike in the universe, but, as I discovered, they feel different.

My bike of choice was the Giant Defy Advanced 2.

I had a test ride and it was fine.

I had a test ride on the Domane 4.3

I bought the Domane.

Even better, I actually only went to LOOK at the Giant Defy but came home with the Domane.

Based on test-riding in 2013 however, the folks at a certain cycling magazine rated the Giant above the Trek.  It all comes down to the individual.
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Re: Sportive or fast tourer for brother-in-law
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2014, 07:40:26 pm »
The Specialized Roubaix is "sporty"?? that's news to me.  Mine handles like a boat.  It's comfy though, reasonably light and with good power transmission

I'm sure that any bike that is "ok" would be better than his existing one.   Just make sure it is more or less the correct size

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Re: Sportive or fast tourer for brother-in-law
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2014, 01:48:13 pm »
Sadly, his bike (along with some others) were stolen in Clerkenwell on Saturday evening.
Certainly never seen cycling south of Sussex