Author Topic: Cross Training: Rowing (Read 229076 times)

mike · « **Reply #900 on:** 02 November, 2015, 02:20:13 pm »

Quote from: Oranj on 23 October, 2015, 12:39:56 pm

I can't ever remember rowing as a novice in an +VIII either: novices always seemed to arrive in IVs! Eights were for the serious racing types.

Cambridge novices are all clogging the river in 8s at the moment, mostly with novice coxes and frustrated coaches on the bank shouting at everybody. It's hilarious unless you're trying to get anything done.

it took one of the crews I was watching about 30 minutes to go 300 yards on friday morning when we timed it wrong and caught all the traffic coming the other way (from the P&E to green dragon bridge, for any cambridge types)

CrazyEnglishTriathlete · « **Reply #901 on:** 02 November, 2015, 03:53:08 pm »

Quote from: simonp on 30 October, 2015, 05:39:19 pm

I've been given a goal of getting below 7 minutes by the end of the head season.

(click to show/hide)
Fuck.

Go for it. Says he with PB of 7:05. All my rowing PBs are just off a significant milestone.

simonp · « **Reply #902 on:** 02 November, 2015, 04:15:50 pm »

Quote from: mike on 02 November, 2015, 02:20:13 pm

Quote from: Oranj on 23 October, 2015, 12:39:56 pm
I can't ever remember rowing as a novice in an +VIII either: novices always seemed to arrive in IVs! Eights were for the serious racing types.

Cambridge novices are all clogging the river in 8s at the moment, mostly with novice coxes and frustrated coaches on the bank shouting at everybody. It's hilarious unless you're trying to get anything done.

it took one of the crews I was watching about 30 minutes to go 300 yards on friday morning when we timed it wrong and caught all the traffic coming the other way (from the P&E to green dragon bridge, for any cambridge types)

Not been to the P & E for years.

Since graduating to the novice squad, I've been out twice - once in a 4 and once in an 8. It'll be a night-time session in an 8 this evening. Probably in fog.

Lots of technical drills so far, less of the drunken spider.

mike · « **Reply #903 on:** 03 November, 2015, 09:12:25 am »

Quote from: simonp on 02 November, 2015, 04:15:50 pm

Not been to the P & E for years.

Since graduating to the novice squad, I've been out twice - once in a 4 and once in an 8. It'll be a night-time session in an 8 this evening. Probably in fog.

Lots of technical drills so far, less of the drunken spider

It was called the penny ferry for a bit, but it's now been knocked down and they're building about 500 flats on it. Students still call it the P&E though.

How was last night? I love rowing in the dark, boats always seem to go better.

We were out at 5.45 this morning in a 4 and the fog wasn't as bad as we'd expected. (We have to get off the water before 7.15 in term time because that's when the student hordes are allowed to set off, and we're too old and grumpy to be crashed into every 30 seconds)

Racing this weekend on the tideway, in the old man's version of 4's head. Lovely.

simonp · « **Reply #904 on:** 03 November, 2015, 09:42:37 am »

We headed out doing rolling sixes, legs only rowing. Just us and the novice ladies on the river (and a tree which had appeared in the middle at a narrow point). I was in 6 and switching in when 7 & 8 switched out didn't really work, but apart from that it was a good run.

On the way back we did pause drills, and we got steadily more stable and pauses shorter - we did that one last weekend as well. It wasn't as foggy as I'd expected and we didn't crash into anything.

Marco Stefano · « **Reply #905 on:** 05 November, 2015, 12:46:55 pm »

Quote from: mike on 02 November, 2015, 02:20:13 pm

Cambridge novices are all clogging the river in 8s at the moment, mostly with novice coxes and frustrated coaches on the bank shouting at everybody. It's hilarious unless you're trying to get anything done.

it took one of the crews I was watching about 30 minutes to go 300 yards on friday morning when we timed it wrong and caught all the traffic coming the other way (from the P&E to green dragon bridge, for any cambridge types)

I knew there was a good reason for helping to start Isle of Ely RC... Good luck on the Tideway, Mike - and to think you could have been racing 5km at Ely SBH. Oh well...

In a vet VIII last Saturday for the first time in about 6 or 7 years (mainly single sculling since then, couldn't stand the politics & stupid arguments); surprisingly, a lot better than I thought it would be. Roll on the Winter League.

mike · « **Reply #906 on:** 06 November, 2015, 10:37:21 am »

Quote from: Marco Stefano on 05 November, 2015, 12:46:55 pm

Roll on the Winter League.

see you there!

(and we might see you at Ely beforehand, we're planning a couple of weekends boating from upware)

simonp · « **Reply #907 on:** 06 November, 2015, 10:47:29 am »

2x20 last night. Where have I seen that protocol before?

simonp · « **Reply #908 on:** 23 November, 2015, 10:13:17 pm »

Did a 2K test before our water session tonight. 7:19.1 which is a new PB.

simonp · « **Reply #909 on:** 25 November, 2015, 04:36:25 pm »

You know you must.

log.concept2.com/challenges/holiday

L CC · « **Reply #910 on:** 25 November, 2015, 04:36:52 pm »

Chris S · « **Reply #911 on:** 25 November, 2015, 04:42:48 pm »

Don't make me!

CrazyEnglishTriathlete · « **Reply #912 on:** 25 November, 2015, 08:34:07 pm »

Back on the rower (which was originally bought for Mrs CET) this evening. As I have half a mind to do a row-bike-run ironman, my plan is for long steady rows at a constant rhythm, so got going at a rate of 21, trying to make every stroke long and strong. Counted the number of strokes and got to 413 for 5000m, so 12.1m per stroke, which seems reasonably good to me. Chuffed that the last 2000m were a good bit faster than the first 2000.

Will aim for a longer row on Sunday, depending on how the lower back (which needs a bit of strength conditioning) and (rarely-used) triceps come out of today.

simonp · « **Reply #913 on:** 26 November, 2015, 03:13:15 pm »

2k test night at the rowing club tonight. Monday I did 7:19.1. I see the next milestone for me as thus being 7:15.0. Putting that time into the Concept 2 pace calculator says that requires 272.5 Watts.

Now, I know that I averaged 282W for 8 minutes twice during the cycling FTP test I did last week. So in terms of the power that I can produce it should be do-able. I'll need to warm up better than on Monday. It'll hurt if I get anywhere near.

mike · « **Reply #914 on:** 26 November, 2015, 03:30:53 pm »

good luck!

simonp · « **Reply #915 on:** 26 November, 2015, 08:51:08 pm »

7:18.4 - went far too fast early on as they want me to do a higher rate. The last 1000m was one of the hardest things I've ever done. Got back below 1:50 in the final 200m - I've no idea how - which brought it back.

So that's two PBs in a week. My warm down was lying on my back on the floor gasping for air.

CrazyEnglishTriathlete · « **Reply #916 on:** 27 November, 2015, 08:12:42 am »

Well done Simonp! My PBs on a rowing machine have all been set going slightly too fast early on and then hanging on for grim death. If you can pick the speed up in the last 200m then you didn't actually go too hard.

You know when you've gone too hard when you try to pick speed up and the room starts to spin. But that will kick in at 1200 - 1250m, if my experience is anything to go by. My 5000m PB was supposed to be an 8,000m row, but I started stressed after work.

simonp · « **Reply #917 on:** 27 November, 2015, 09:56:01 am »

No, I went too fast in the first and second 500m. The splits were:

1:46.3 291W
1:45.9 295W
1:51.4 253W
1:54.7 231W

Power values are from Concept2 website pace calculator, rounded to nearest W.

Accounting for variation I suspect I was basically averaging around 300W for the first 3.5 minutes. I know from cycling experience that my highest-ever 5 minute power is around that, and I'm not as economic on the rower, so it was doomed from the start.

The good news is that better pacing will improve on that time.

CrazyEnglishTriathlete · « **Reply #918 on:** 28 November, 2015, 06:11:15 pm »

My weight might be more of an advantage on the Concept 2, as I'd have to be down to Tour de France winning skinniness to escape the heavyweight category on the rowing machine.

simonp · « **Reply #919 on:** 17 December, 2015, 07:21:30 pm »

5K test. 19:37.8 with 195 max HR.

L CC · « **Reply #920 on:** 17 December, 2015, 10:21:01 pm »

I did 22:53 last night which is a whole 2 secs off last season's PB and pretty good for a first row since July. Chuffed.
Inevitably, I have blisters.

L CC · « **Reply #921 on:** 17 December, 2015, 10:22:06 pm »

And to not be heavyweight, I'd have to lose another 25kg. Uh huh.

simonp · « **Reply #922 on:** 17 December, 2015, 10:34:57 pm »

I have those too. Unfortunately my time was 40s off my PB which I set in 2011.

ElyDave · « **Reply #923 on:** 21 December, 2015, 10:45:29 pm »

I managed a massive 45k on my erg this year

simonp · « **Reply #924 on:** 21 December, 2015, 10:52:49 pm »

I'm nowhere in the 100k challenge, too many other things going on.

Author Topic: Cross Training: Rowing (Read 229076 times)

simonp

simonp

simonp

simonp

simonp

Chris S

simonp

simonp

simonp

simonp

simonp

simonp