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General Category => Freewheeling => Racing => Topic started by: Martin109 on 29 March, 2009, 08:05:42 pm

Title: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: Martin109 on 29 March, 2009, 08:05:42 pm
Sprint semi-final  here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/7971083.stm).  What an amazing recovery by Bauge - a bit of luck, and phenomenal bike-handling! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: David Martin on 29 March, 2009, 08:15:39 pm
Sprint semi-final  here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/7971083.stm).  What an amazing recovery by Bauge - a bit of luck, and phenomenal bike-handling! :thumbsup:

Absolutely brilliant - sideways at 40mph on a fixed wheel.. Sireau really lost it there..

The skid mark on the track was something to behold..

..d
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: gonzo on 29 March, 2009, 08:23:36 pm
Don't bike messengers have a comp to see how far a bike can be skidded? I'll bet even they are in awe!
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: David Martin on 30 March, 2009, 08:41:39 am
Don't bike messengers have a comp to see how far a bike can be skidded? I'll bet even they are in awe!

I bet they don't do it at 40mph...
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: tiermat on 30 March, 2009, 08:44:04 am
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: LEE on 30 March, 2009, 08:53:32 am
I watched it yesterday and was convinced that Bauge was going to win the race by crossing the line on his back.  Amazing recovery and even more so because he seemed totally in control.#

Maybe it's the track but there seemed to be more people losing their front wheels than normal during these championships.
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: giropaul on 30 March, 2009, 09:05:56 am
Worrying that Sireau's tyre rolled off so easily.

Would have led to a very stiff interaction with the commissaires in my day!
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: GruB on 30 March, 2009, 09:07:38 am
Impressive bike control.  Excellent camera work and definition too.  Look at his leg muscles when he is instinctively fighting to control the bike.  

On an aside, Romero doesn't do it for me as a commentator.  Stumbles over words, repeats herself or the person she is with.  Stick to riding or rowing I reckon.
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: Moloko on 30 March, 2009, 02:15:55 pm
Watching the final days action, I did notice the amount of board repairs that were peppered
all around the track.
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: David Martin on 30 March, 2009, 03:27:13 pm
Watching the final days action, I did notice the amount of board repairs that were peppered
all around the track.

Look at Lizzies crash in the scratch race.. a big chunk of track comes off as she slides down the banking.

..d
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: Biff on 30 March, 2009, 04:30:54 pm
Quote from: David Martin
The skid mark on the track was something to behold..
I would imagine the one in Bauge's skinsuit ran it a close second  ;D Phenomenal bike handling.
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: David Martin on 30 March, 2009, 05:50:49 pm
Worrying that Sireau's tyre rolled off so easily.

Would have led to a very stiff interaction with the commissaires in my day!

Looking at the video again, it does look like he might have staid upright but for his front tyre rolling off.. It comes off before he crashes, not as a result of the crash.

..d
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: Rob S on 30 March, 2009, 11:39:37 pm
I got a pretty crap version 1/4 speed version of the slow motion off the telly just a minute ago as I've just got round to watching the programme yesterday....at least it'll still be up in more than 6 days time ;D

YouTube - A little 40mph crash and miracle at the World Track Championships. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ftEFFv0h24)


Saw another horrible crash in the women's points race final where the Belarussian girl gets a Russian girl's handlebar in the face as she goes down! :o 
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: Rob S on 30 March, 2009, 11:57:25 pm
On an aside, Romero doesn't do it for me as a commentator.  Stumbles over words, repeats herself or the person she is with.  Stick to riding or rowing I reckon.

Oh come on...she's right up there with Eddie Jordan in the top BBC pundit performance of the weekend competition!! ;D
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 31 March, 2009, 02:03:57 am
Back in the days of Moser's hour record, they were putting coatings on the track to reduce rolling resistance.  It had to be removed from sections of the track when Rory O'Reilly was attempting the standing kilo record as he was getting wheel slip from a standing start.  Perhaps a combination of the particular varnish on the the track (PU probably) and hard rubber for low rolling resistance is allowing riders to come unstuck, so to speak.

Agreed, that tyre is poorly glued on and his mechanic has a good chance of being fired.  To me, it looks like it came off as he is falling, as soon as significant side load is applied to the tyre, not before.
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: Moloko on 31 March, 2009, 01:09:42 pm


On an aside, Romero doesn't do it for me as a commentator.  Stumbles over words, repeats herself or the person she is with.  Stick to riding or rowing I reckon.

Miraculously she has actually stopped starting every sentence with "Um" and "Erm"
I think she was aware of what she was doing and now seems to have beaten the habit.
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: Martin109 on 31 March, 2009, 01:50:53 pm
Everyone has to start somewhere, I suppose.  It must have been a bit daunting sitting alongside an old commentary pro in Hugh Porter, as he's so good.
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: ChrisO on 31 March, 2009, 01:55:43 pm
I think her problem is that she is very uncomfortable in front of the camera and can't think what to say. She's not good at giving a personal opinion or being interviewed.

One especially cringeworthy moment...  Victoria Pendleton was saying how hard she found it to do the Worlds after the Olympics. Off the back of the interview Inverdale asked RR if she felt that vindicated her decision not to participate. RR said No certainly not and stumbled on, clearly not understanding the meaning of the word vindicated, and eventuallly JI said "So you think it was the right decision..."  to which she then agreed.

However, she was actually very good doing live commentary on the women's points race - she chimed in with appropriate observations and gave some good opinion about tactics and what people needed to do, how they were riding, individual strengths etc.

So she's fine talking about things she knows, without staring down the lens, but crap at giving general punditry on camera.
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: Jacomus on 31 March, 2009, 02:04:36 pm
I think her problem is that she is very uncomfortable in front of the camera and can't think what to say. She's not good at giving a personal opinion or being interviewed.

One especially cringeworthy moment...  Victoria Pendleton was saying how hard she found it to do the Worlds after the Olympics. Off the back of the interview Inverdale asked RR if she felt that vindicated her decision not to participate. RR said No certainly not and stumbled on, clearly not understanding the meaning of the word vindicated, and eventuallly JI said "So you think it was the right decision..."  to which she then agreed.

However, she was actually very good doing live commentary on the women's points race - she chimed in with appropriate observations and gave some good opinion about tactics and what people needed to do, how they were riding, individual strengths etc.

So she's fine talking about things she knows, without staring down the lens, but crap at giving general punditry on camera.

I really felt for RR when she missed the meaning of "vindicated". Her response was obviously confused, and as if she was blundering on after realising her mistake, too nervous to stop and laugh it off.

I reckon she will get better. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: Rob S on 31 March, 2009, 04:00:57 pm

However, she was actually very good doing live commentary on the women's points race - she chimed in with appropriate observations and gave some good opinion about tactics and what people needed to do, how they were riding, individual strengths etc.

She was rather crap during the Women's sprint final....particularly the last one iirc. Had I found my remote quick enough I would've stuck the telly on mute.
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: David Martin on 31 March, 2009, 10:12:08 pm
Worrying that Sireau's tyre rolled off so easily.

Would have led to a very stiff interaction with the commissaires in my day!

Have a look at the series of pictures here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclingweekly/3398163217/in/set-72157616037494345/)

I'm almost conviced he crashed because the tyre rolled.
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: Rob S on 31 March, 2009, 10:54:25 pm
I'm not surprised the tyre rolled at that angle....I'm surprised Bauge's rear tyre diidn't go the same way. Though once the tyre was off I'm pleased to see it didn't cause the same problem as this YouTube - Tandem crash.avi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngv7Iu3y1o0 ) :o
Title: Re: Bauge's Amazing Recovery
Post by: nuttycyclist on 07 April, 2009, 12:55:48 am
Worrying that Sireau's tyre rolled off so easily.

Would have led to a very stiff interaction with the commissaires in my day!

Have a look at the series of pictures here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclingweekly/3398163217/in/set-72157616037494345/)

I'm almost conviced he crashed because the tyre rolled.

It's reminded me of why I don't run tubs  ;D

That photostream is good - seems to show the skinsuit damage isn't from the track... but from the other bike's rear wheel  :o