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General Category => Freewheeling => Racing => Topic started by: Pingu on 07 March, 2021, 08:17:11 pm

Title: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Pingu on 07 March, 2021, 08:17:11 pm
Ritchie Porte got his usual race contribution in nice and early  :-\
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Mr Larrington on 07 March, 2021, 08:31:17 pm
Caused by being wiped out by someone else who'd just run over a bidet bidon, apparently.  No goats involved.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: spesh on 07 March, 2021, 08:44:15 pm
What Porte didn't realise was that INEO$ were happy to have him back as a bad luck sacrificial goat/lightning rod - he's there to catch all the bad juju that would otherwise affect Tao, G and Bernal. :demon:
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Mr Larrington on 08 March, 2021, 01:26:38 am
During last year’s sterling effort by R Porte on the TdF, especially after his chase back to the bunch on that mountain stage with the gravelly bit on it, TV's Super D Millar suggested he be T Ineo$' leader this year.  Nice one, Super D.  Not.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 09 March, 2021, 05:22:06 pm
Didn't think much of the doctoring on display letting George Bennett get back on his bike y'day having broken his magic hat and having trouble standing up straight...
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Pingu on 10 March, 2021, 12:22:45 am
They managed to push him out for the TT  :thumbsup:  :-\
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Pingu on 10 March, 2021, 09:05:04 pm
And Geoghegan-Hart out after a knock on the noggin.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Karla on 10 March, 2021, 10:29:15 pm
I guess that means the Porte juju didn't work.

Quote from: spesh on 07 March, 2021, 08:44:15 pm
What Porte didn't realise was that INEO$ were happy to have him back as a bad luck sacrificial goat/lightning rod - he's there to catch all the bad juju that would otherwise affect Tao, G and Bernal. :demon:
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: trekker12 on 11 March, 2021, 01:05:28 pm
Quote from: Mrs Pingu on 09 March, 2021, 05:22:06 pm
Didn't think much of the doctoring on display letting George Bennett get back on his bike y'day having broken his magic hat and having trouble standing up straight...

Seems strange the response of some sports over others considering how much is known about concussion and sporting head injuries and their long term effects.

Surely (and don't call me Shirley) if the magic hat has a large chunk missing from it, it's enough to carry out a formal concussion protocol??
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 March, 2021, 06:10:18 pm
Cycling is a movable feast, though.  By the time the medics reach a crash scene team personnel can have the rider back on his bike and a mile down the road, as per Bardet in the Tour last year.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: drgannet on 11 March, 2021, 08:58:38 pm
I am enjoying Adam Blythe as part of the commentary team. Lots of useful insights and less hyberbole than some.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Pingu on 11 March, 2021, 09:10:41 pm
The docs were all over Martin after his crash today.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 March, 2021, 09:30:40 pm
They were all over Ion Izagirre when he crashed in the Tour last year, a day or two after Bardet's incident, but one of the colemantators noted at the time that if they haul a rider off for extensive checks that’s his race screwed whether he's concussed or not.  I suspect both the riders, or at least their employers, would take a dim view of this becoming a regular occurrence.

NC Boardman:These people need protecting from themselves!
EC Boardman:Oh! No! They! Don’t!
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: TimC on 11 March, 2021, 09:55:13 pm
Loved the Belgian Break today! But I'm not so impressed by the race. Tirreno-Adriatico seems much more interesting.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Pingu on 12 March, 2021, 08:39:04 pm
Quote from: TimC on 11 March, 2021, 09:55:13 pm
...Tirreno-Adriatico seems much more interesting.

Is that on Cooncil TV?
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: TimC on 13 March, 2021, 09:33:20 am
Quote from: Pingu on 12 March, 2021, 08:39:04 pm
Quote from: TimC on 11 March, 2021, 09:55:13 pm
...Tirreno-Adriatico seems much more interesting.

Is that on Cooncil TV?

Hmmm. Not sure exactly what that means. Probably missing some obvious reference, m'lud, but the straight answer is both P-N and T-A are on Eurosport/GCN.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Hot Flatus on 13 March, 2021, 09:47:10 am
Another effortless win from Primoz Roglic.

Compare and contrast, his immediate post stage demeanor to that of MVP's on his StradeBianche win, and TA stage win.

Think we will be seeing a lot of Primoz this year.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Pingu on 13 March, 2021, 10:59:09 am
Quote from: TimC on 13 March, 2021, 09:33:20 am
Quote from: Pingu on 12 March, 2021, 08:39:04 pm
Quote from: TimC on 11 March, 2021, 09:55:13 pm
...Tirreno-Adriatico seems much more interesting.

Is that on Cooncil TV?

Hmmm. Not sure exactly what that means. Probably missing some obvious reference, m'lud, but the straight answer is both P-N and T-A are on Eurosport/GCN.

Freeview.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Hot Flatus on 13 March, 2021, 11:10:44 am
Don't think it is.

ITV4 do the Tour, but that is about it.

£40 a year will get you Eurosport app, which I watch on smart tv, or you could get a strategic  £7 a month GCN+ subscription which gives same races as ES but on tablets, phones, laptops and mirror onto tv
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Pingu on 13 March, 2021, 11:15:49 am
ITV4 are covering Paris-Nice. They covered the last Vuelta. The last Giro was on Freeview, I think it was GCN but I can't remember what channel it was on.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Hot Flatus on 13 March, 2021, 11:19:37 am
Ooh, cheers, I hadn't noticed ITV4 were doing a bit more.

Opens up the options a bit.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Hot Flatus on 13 March, 2021, 01:54:43 pm
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Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: TimC on 13 March, 2021, 03:54:36 pm
Yes, ITV4 are covering a good bit more than just the TDF. I hadn't seen that they were doing Paris-Nice, but I prefer the ad-free coverage on Eurosport/GCN+ anyway. If you catch it at the right time, a subscription to Eurosport Player can be had for £20 from time to time.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: yoav on 13 March, 2021, 05:15:30 pm
Right now - £19.99 Eurosport subs.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 13 March, 2021, 06:03:00 pm
Quote from: Pingu on 13 March, 2021, 11:15:49 am
ITV4 are covering Paris-Nice. They covered the last Vuelta. The last Giro was on Freeview, I think it was GCN but I can't remember what channel it was on.

According to the Giro thread we watched it on Quest. :)
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 13 March, 2021, 06:13:10 pm
Quote from: yoav on 13 March, 2021, 05:15:30 pm
Right now - £19.99 Eurosport subs.
Hadn't realised that was for a whole year. Or £7 if you only want a month.

What are the Eurosport colemantators like? Annoying or not?
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Hot Flatus on 13 March, 2021, 06:27:07 pm
They are OK. You get Sean Kelly sometimes. Dan Lloyd etc
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: eckagain on 13 March, 2021, 07:12:17 pm
Quote from: Hot Flatus on 13 March, 2021, 06:27:07 pm
They are OK. You get Sean Kelly sometimes. Dan Lloyd etc
Rob Hatch is ok, so are Adam Blyth and Brian Smith.
OTOH, you also get Carlton Kirby.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Nuncio on 13 March, 2021, 08:28:17 pm
The only reason I won't turn off immediately I hear Carlton Kirby commentating is if I fancy keeping a tally of his 'quite frankly's, 'likewise's, 'I guess'es, 'have some fun's, 'go long's and 'pointy end's. 
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: eckagain on 13 March, 2021, 09:09:02 pm
Quote from: Nuncio on 13 March, 2021, 08:28:17 pm
The only reason I won't turn off immediately I hear Carlton Kirby commentating is if I fancy keeping a tally of his 'quite frankly's, 'likewise's, 'I guess'es, 'have some fun's, 'go long's and 'pointy end's.

Not to mention, 'the flamme rouge doth beckon', 'a fighting force', 'he's gone pale of pallor', etc etc.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: TimC on 14 March, 2021, 12:47:18 pm
Dan Lloyd is an effective counter to Carlton Kirby, and together they are quite entertaining. Kirby is annoying from time to time - if I hear another phlegmmy intake of breath I may very well shoot the telly - but he's quite knowledgeable yet lets Dan do the serious analysis. Rob Hatch and Adam Blythe similarly work well together. I don't think either team is as good as the ITV4 setup, but that's pretty thinly spread.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Hot Flatus on 14 March, 2021, 01:05:33 pm
Was watching PN (I think yesterday or friday) and one of the commentators was saying "Roglic just doesnt look right today. He's clearly not comfortable on the bike today. Something isn't right"  a few minutes before Roglic put in a blistering attack and won the stage  ::-)

I like the older succesful ex-pro commentators best, people like Phillipa York, and Sean Kelly, because they have been at the pointy end, understand exactly what is going on and can give interesting insights in comparison to their day.

People like Kirby and Ligget are just shrill windbags, whose only function is to act as a counter point.

Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: TimC on 14 March, 2021, 01:08:53 pm
That was Adam Blythe, who is an ex-pro. He had the decency to be embarrassed by his mistake. That said, I suspect that was the impression Roglic intended to give.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Hot Flatus on 14 March, 2021, 05:54:22 pm
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Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Peter on 14 March, 2021, 08:04:57 pm
Certainly was!

Does anyone know what Tadej Pogacar is up to so far this year?
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Hot Flatus on 14 March, 2021, 08:07:13 pm
Winning Tirreno Adriatico
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Peter on 14 March, 2021, 08:48:46 pm
Ah, thanks!
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 14 March, 2021, 08:50:15 pm
Gosh that was a bit more exciting than expected.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Nuncio on 14 March, 2021, 08:56:02 pm
Quote from: Peter on 14 March, 2021, 08:04:57 pm
Certainly was!

Does anyone know what Tadej Pogacar is up to so far this year?

And a mountain stage and overall in the UEA Tour.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 15 March, 2021, 07:20:50 am
Quote from: Mrs Pingu on 14 March, 2021, 08:50:15 pm
Gosh that was a bit more exciting than expected.
Indeed.
I wonder if Poglic hadn't given such a blunt interview after winning on the penultimate day, whether more effort would have been made to neutralise the race when he crashed (twice).
I guess the peleton sent out a 'message' about how to behave.

Even if I'm wrong - it was a bloomin' good last two days.
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: Pingu on 15 March, 2021, 11:09:22 am
It didn't help that TV's *** Boulting inflicted the Colemantator's Curse on Rog on a descent  :hand: ;D
Title: Re: Paris - Nice 2021
Post by: DaveJ on 16 March, 2021, 12:13:22 am
Just thinking about that unmarked, unprotected bollard that took out Tony Martin the day before.  Would he have been able to drag Roglic back to the peleton?  He would have been the ideal person to try anyway.