Author Topic: AUK post-2021 lockdown?  (Read 9108 times)

Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #25 on: 04 March, 2021, 09:49:25 pm »
Does anyone know when we'll be able to enter calendar events?

Just entered one now for April 17th.

Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #26 on: 04 March, 2021, 09:53:29 pm »

(but have they heard of "hyperlinks"? They're all the rage on the Interweb, guys, you're gonna luv 'em!)

All the rage in the 1990s maybe. The rage now is to release your statement as sea shanty video with built in hyperlinks, plus adverts for auk buffs.

Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #27 on: 04 March, 2021, 10:35:20 pm »
Things are looking up. :)

Just entered one 200 for April and another for May.  ;D

Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #28 on: 05 March, 2021, 03:19:55 pm »
Ooh, I can see the link for online entries now on the ones I'm considering. Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough...?

Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #29 on: 05 March, 2021, 08:41:18 pm »
I am wondering if entering audaxes is the new equivalent of panic buying bogrolls. Since the entry system opened last night, my in-tray went into meltdown.

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Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #30 on: 06 March, 2021, 09:48:21 am »
I am wondering if entering audaxes is the new equivalent of panic buying bogrolls. Since the entry system opened last night, my in-tray went into meltdown.
Given the DNS rates in recent seasons, I think it's just business as usual!
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Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #31 on: 09 March, 2021, 06:30:29 pm »
It looks like British Cycling is moving to groups of 15 on club rides etc from 29th March.  I guess that Audax UK is likely to follow this.

https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/about/article/20210309-about-bc-news-British-Cycling-update--The-Way-Forward-0

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Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #32 on: 10 March, 2021, 07:20:00 am »
It looks like British Cycling is moving to groups of 15 on club rides etc from 29th March.  I guess that Audax UK is likely to follow this.

https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/about/article/20210309-about-bc-news-British-Cycling-update--The-Way-Forward-0
Yeah.
But unfortunately we won't be able to do much when we stop -except quickly disperse into groups of 6!
No-stop audaxes??
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Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #33 on: 10 March, 2021, 04:24:46 pm »
And matt c as hit the nail on the head,  cycling uk did the whole 15 to a group last summer and its totally unworkable if the group wants to stop for refreshments. As a result all the local ctc groups carried on with groups of 6!

Interesting that it mentions to be mindful to how the public will view group's of 15 when the rule of 6 is being forced down there necks!!!

Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #34 on: 12 March, 2021, 04:48:42 pm »
Meanwhile, Scottish Cycling is now "strongly recommending" a maximum group size of 9 for club rides: https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/scotland/article/20200313-Scottish-Cycling-Coronavirus-COVID19-Guidance-0

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Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #35 on: 17 March, 2021, 02:26:20 pm »
Yesterdays Scottish Government announcement implies that that audax in any form wont be back until 26th April in Alba. 

Not long in the overall scheme of things, until one casts an eye south to see DIYs resuming 29th March. 

Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #36 on: 29 March, 2021, 10:56:46 am »
What's the score with ECEs? I can see for instance the 200k Valley of the Rocks next month, and the start is conveniently about 100 km from home... but ECEs aren't mentioned in the COVID update. I'd assume I can ECE it to 300 km, but what about 400, there and back again?

I'd assume not, but that makes it awfully tempting to do a leg by train, which does seem somewhat counterproductive.

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Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #37 on: 29 March, 2021, 12:07:15 pm »
You can ride it and not claim the point.  So it looks like a 300 and you know actually it was 400.
(Like my outing last week which wasn't '000s of circuits round the park and did come out at 2xx km, but wasn't an audax at all)
In the dark, all views are the same.

Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #38 on: 29 March, 2021, 04:18:33 pm »
I mean, that's true, and having a 4xx would be pushing beyond what I've done prior. However, I could just as well plan my own route and maybe even push for 500. But doing a calendar event, the prospect of a green cloth badge might just help dispel the temptation proffered by the train!

Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #39 on: 29 March, 2021, 06:33:37 pm »
It looks like British Cycling is moving to groups of 15 on club rides etc from 29th March.  I guess that Audax UK is likely to follow this.

https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/about/article/20210309-about-bc-news-British-Cycling-update--The-Way-Forward-0
Yeah.
But unfortunately we won't be able to do much when we stop -except quickly disperse into groups of 6!
No-stop audaxes??

As so often, the devil’s in the detail.
BC have said 15 on organised rides with an appointed, certified leader. They’re thinking Breeze, Go Ride etc, not the good old club run ( 6 as with any other outdoor activity)

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Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #40 on: 29 March, 2021, 09:58:05 pm »
What's the score with ECEs? I can see for instance the 200k Valley of the Rocks next month, and the start is conveniently about 100 km from home... but ECEs aren't mentioned in the COVID update. I'd assume I can ECE it to 300 km, but what about 400, there and back again?

I'd assume not, but that makes it awfully tempting to do a leg by train, which does seem somewhat counterproductive.

The current limits are events up to cumulative distance of ~300Km -  thus you could ECE 100Km either end, but not both (or some other split that accumulated to ~300Km)
I'd offer you some moral support - but I have questionable morals.

Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #41 on: 29 March, 2021, 11:30:47 pm »
What's the score with ECEs? I can see for instance the 200k Valley of the Rocks next month, and the start is conveniently about 100 km from home... but ECEs aren't mentioned in the COVID update. I'd assume I can ECE it to 300 km, but what about 400, there and back again?

I'd assume not, but that makes it awfully tempting to do a leg by train, which does seem somewhat counterproductive.

The current limits are events up to cumulative distance of ~300Km -  thus you could ECE 100Km either end, but not both (or some other split that accumulated to ~300Km)

The 'thinking' (such as it is) 1, is that at present you're not permitted to spend a night away from home (except for specified reasons that don't include audax).

If you take reasonably standard start times and a-bit-less-than-max ride times for a 200 (say 0800-2000) or a 300 (maybe 0600-0000), that's a day ride.

Obviously if you're quick you might be able start a 400 at 0600 and finish before bedtime, or if you're ECEing 100+200+100 you could make a case that 0200-0800-2000-0200 is a day ride, but those aren't exceptions we will make at present.

Depending on how you implement it though, Arabella's suggestion could fall inside both the letter and the spirit of the regulations and the rules ...

(Or, depending on stations and timetables, train-50-200-50-train?)



1: I should admit that I'm part of the 'thinking' ...

Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #42 on: 30 March, 2021, 02:46:37 pm »
Only twice have I slept on a 400, once was a DIY with an overnight stop at home and the other was a flat route with a late start time,  having enough time for a worthwhile sleep and not being out of time at the next control is difficult.

Eddington  100miles

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Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #43 on: 30 March, 2021, 10:02:18 pm »
What's the score with ECEs? I can see for instance the 200k Valley of the Rocks next month, and the start is conveniently about 100 km from home... but ECEs aren't mentioned in the COVID update. I'd assume I can ECE it to 300 km, but what about 400, there and back again?

I'd assume not, but that makes it awfully tempting to do a leg by train, which does seem somewhat counterproductive.

The current limits are events up to cumulative distance of ~300Km -  thus you could ECE 100Km either end, but not both (or some other split that accumulated to ~300Km)

The 'thinking' (such as it is) 1, is that at present you're not permitted to spend a night away from home (except for specified reasons that don't include audax).

If you take reasonably standard start times and a-bit-less-than-max ride times for a 200 (say 0800-2000) or a 300 (maybe 0600-0000), that's a day ride.

Obviously if you're quick you might be able start a 400 at 0600 and finish before bedtime, or if you're ECEing 100+200+100 you could make a case that 0200-0800-2000-0200 is a day ride, but those aren't exceptions we will make at present.

Depending on how you implement it though, Arabella's suggestion could fall inside both the letter and the spirit of the regulations and the rules ...

(Or, depending on stations and timetables, train-50-200-50-train?)



1: I should admit that I'm part of the 'thinking' ...
Two more weeks and you will be permitted to stay away from home in self contained self catering accommodation (bivvy bag,Trangia)

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Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #44 on: 31 March, 2021, 06:44:00 pm »
Are there really no Welsh events declared yet? ( I know things are a little more uncertain in Wales than England, but plenty of orgs on this side of the Dyke are taking risks on The Future.)
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Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #45 on: 11 May, 2021, 07:05:28 pm »
Given the concerns about riders being "encouraged" to break the law riding longer events, I had to smile on last week's ride: I chatted for a while with a very pleasant chap who told me he'd booked 2 nights in Premier Inn (There was ice on my tent when I finished the ride  :facepalm:)

I've checked Prems website and the Covid page is VERY clear that they're still shut to leisure visitors. But a test booking got me through, despite clicking the "leisure" not Business option  ;D
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Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #46 on: 11 May, 2021, 07:48:04 pm »
Hadn't realized Scotland and Wales were ahead on being allowed to stay away for leisure purposes.
That's except for locations and people living in Moray who will be receiving a special program probably due to the lack of a clear Scottish Government Policy on Doric such that they dinnae ken whit the instructions ur.

Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #47 on: 12 May, 2021, 02:24:51 pm »
A cursory Permanent Event 'search' suggests that John Ward has opened the entry mechanism for rides longer than 300, but understand that, to be validated, such rides must start no earlier than 0001 on Mon 17 May. Presume Area DIY organisers will accept entries for the longer distances too, with the same timeline caveat.

Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #48 on: 12 May, 2021, 02:31:15 pm »
Presume Area DIY organisers will accept entries for the longer distances too, with the same timeline caveat.

DIYs are a kind of Perm, fully called "DIY Permanents", so yes.

Re: AUK post-2021 lockdown?
« Reply #49 on: 13 June, 2021, 09:57:51 am »
Was anyone else expecting larger fields to be allowed on calendar events by now? I think we’re still on the phase 1 restrictions from March.

ETA: Went to the AUK forum looking for angry villagers and found none.