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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #425 on: 01 March, 2020, 07:28:35 pm »
A red thing and the Liver Building.

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #426 on: 02 March, 2020, 08:11:48 am »
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.

Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.

Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #427 on: 02 March, 2020, 01:08:51 pm »
But surely BRITAIN is just one big aircraft carrier*?  That's why Mr Orwell called it "Airstrip One".

* joke stolen from a B Mussolini of Rome, who claimed the same thing about Italy
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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #428 on: 02 March, 2020, 01:58:24 pm »
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.

Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.

Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.

I'm not sure why we need any carriers at all.  Plenty of successful countries do without them and I'm sure the money could be well spent elsewhere, the NHS maybe?  I'm probably missing something big which justifies the expense.

But the tech is amazing and I'd love to have a look round one, I'm deeply envious of Jaded.  And those F35s are something else...

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #429 on: 02 March, 2020, 03:21:18 pm »
We need the aircraft carriers to defend our EMPIRE against the godless heathens and the heathless godons. Perhaps...
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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #430 on: 02 March, 2020, 03:51:59 pm »
We need the aircraft carriers to defend our EMPIRE against the godless heathens and the heathless godons. Perhaps...

Ah yes, I knew I was missing something, the Empire... definitely needs defending!

Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #431 on: 04 March, 2020, 01:23:34 pm »
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.

Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.

Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.

I'm not sure why we need any carriers at all.  Plenty of successful countries do without them and I'm sure the money could be well spent elsewhere, the NHS maybe?  I'm probably missing something big which justifies the expense.


There is a valid argument for having none but if you do have them you should have three. Even more bonkers is France with one carrier. Most of the time it doesn't have any it can use as its being repaired.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

Oscar's dad

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #432 on: 05 March, 2020, 03:27:10 pm »
Yes, I see that, good point.

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #433 on: 05 March, 2020, 04:21:52 pm »
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.

Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.

Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.

I'm not sure why we need any carriers at all.  Plenty of successful countries do without them and I'm sure the money could be well spent elsewhere, the NHS maybe?  I'm probably missing something big which justifies the expense.


There is a valid argument for having none but if you do have them you should have three. Even more bonkers is France with one carrier. Most of the time it doesn't have any it can use as its being repaired.

We have just one because we've changed our mind after building one (too expensive, you Brits decided that you would cooperate with the US rather than us as we were hoping).

Instead of building 2 new aircraft carriers, we built 3 of those :



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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #434 on: 05 March, 2020, 06:34:36 pm »
France’s Minister of Defence?  I should be President of the Whole World!!!

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #435 on: 05 March, 2020, 08:09:13 pm »
It's worth a shot  :thumbsup:

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #436 on: 10 November, 2020, 09:13:33 pm »
I was a little envious of these two this morning

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #437 on: 08 December, 2020, 09:15:52 pm »
I didn't actually take the photos, but I did arrange it all and do the processing! A 360 tour of the steam boat that I help on: https://www.vic56.co.uk/Virtual-Tour.

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #438 on: 09 December, 2020, 06:34:19 am »
Brilliant!

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #439 on: 02 June, 2021, 11:32:19 pm »


Cycling home from my pal Penelope's this afternoon, I glanced to my left and saw this monstrosity. If it's midway between Southend and the Isle of Grain, which is the direct line from where I stand but it's too murky to be able to see, it must be about 3 miles from my vantage point in Ambleside Drive. The furthest building in shot is about half a mile away from me.

It's the HMM St. Petersburg, apparently, one of the same class of container ships as the the HMM Algericas, which is the largest in the world, and which also occasionally visits the Thames. Each holds somewhere in the region of 20,000 large containers.
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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #440 on: 03 June, 2021, 06:12:40 am »
London Gateway is a container port designed to accommodate the next (larger) generation of container ships that don’t exist yet. Currently three berths but designed to expand to six berths.
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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #441 on: 03 June, 2021, 07:33:59 am »
Amazing, that ship is huge and it flies over houses.

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #442 on: 03 June, 2021, 07:45:43 am »
This picture proves that the earth is indeed flat.
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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #443 on: 03 June, 2021, 01:06:03 pm »

Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.
Perhaps we will have a third when one gets worn enough to need a refit?
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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #444 on: 29 August, 2021, 07:35:05 pm »
Taken in Henley (upon Thames) about 1989. It looks to me as if it ought to be pre-1914 but I'm no expert!

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #445 on: 04 October, 2021, 01:12:04 pm »


The wreck of the SS Camlough, which ran aground in Luce Bay in 1932 in a storm after her engine failed in the Irish Sea on a trip from Belfast to Birkenhead to collect coal to take back to Belfast. The Portpatrick lifeboat (coxwain John Campbell) saved the captain and crew. This picture is soon to be on display at the Mull of Galloway Lighthouse. It was taken in 2016, when storms had scoured the sand away to expose more of the wreck than usual. Last week all that was visible was a bit of metal about 3x5 cm poking out from the sand, just enough to stub your toe. Nearest the camera is the propeller shaft. In the distance was where the boiler would have been.

Fun fact: The Camlough's first voyages were to transport early strawberries from Brittany to Plymouth,  where they would be loaded onto special trains to be taken to London where they would be served at posh hotels and restaurants.
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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #446 on: 04 October, 2021, 03:48:13 pm »
IMG_2049 by mark tilley, on Flickr

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #447 on: 04 October, 2021, 08:15:19 pm »
IMG_2049 by mark tilley, on Flickr

A hole in the mud just waiting for someone to pour money into it.   :thumbsup:

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #448 on: 05 October, 2021, 05:35:22 am »
Stop it Kim, I'm seriously thinking of becoming a boatowner again, in fact I nearly bought one last week, and you'll put me off  :thumbsup:

Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #449 on: 13 January, 2022, 07:22:25 pm »
The two happiest days in a boat owner's life ?

The day you buy her and the day you sell her.

I'm not sure I necessarily hold with that, but one of those two has just happened to me, which means I can line up the other one in short order. Huzzah !!
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