Author Topic: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.  (Read 1286 times)

9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« on: 03 February, 2015, 04:42:31 pm »
I am making up some small boxes using this material for my beekeeping.

I brought home two sheets this afternoon and my plan A was to nail the units together.

On doing some trial nailing the flat material was fine but the edge I was securing to split. The nails are Bright round wire, 25 x 1.8

Anyone with some thoughts please as I am not that keen to screw them together.

PH
Bees do nothing invariably.

Jaded

  • The Codfather
  • Formerly known as Jaded
Re: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« Reply #1 on: 03 February, 2015, 04:49:32 pm »
Brackets or battens, I'd have thought?
It is simpler than it looks.

Re: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« Reply #2 on: 03 February, 2015, 04:52:58 pm »
No space inside. I need to join face to edge.

PH
Bees do nothing invariably.

Re: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« Reply #3 on: 03 February, 2015, 04:56:00 pm »
Maybe try slimmer nails, and glue if you need higher strength joints.

Re: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« Reply #4 on: 03 February, 2015, 05:00:51 pm »
Yes thinner nails + glue. 9mm is thick enough so it shouldn’t split with narrow nails. I would be looking at the glue doing the actual joint and the nails just holding everything in place whilst the glue sets.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

Re: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« Reply #5 on: 03 February, 2015, 05:43:25 pm »
Backs my thinking yes. I was trying 1.8mm nails so will get some 1mm tomorrow and see how that works.

I am debating a bit of rebating as my new table saw is pretty accurate.

PH
Bees do nothing invariably.

Aunt Maud

  • Le Flâneur.
Re: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« Reply #6 on: 03 February, 2015, 05:58:06 pm »
Yep, rebate the base, the two ends and glue.

Re: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« Reply #7 on: 03 February, 2015, 08:10:13 pm »
Get some panel pins plus glue.
We are making a New World (Paul Nash, 1918)

Re: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« Reply #8 on: 04 February, 2015, 06:30:44 am »
I may be slightly OT, but please don't forget that OSB is not a water-proof material. Even the top grade OSB will swell and eventually self-destroy when it is left exposed to rain. Make sure all the exposed parts are properly covered with shingles or anything waterproof.

Back to your original question, I would definitely prefer screws in pre-drilled holes over nails, but if you really want to use nails, there's an old carpenter's trick that helps to prevent splitting of the panel: put each nail head down on a hard surface, and give a small hammer blow in order to slightly flatten the tip. This will makes the nail crush the wood fibers rathen than split them.

Re: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« Reply #9 on: 04 February, 2015, 07:14:05 am »
Thanks for that.

Water is not an issue these boxes only need to last 24 hours to transport the bees to sale.

PH
Bees do nothing invariably.

Re: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« Reply #10 on: 04 February, 2015, 12:08:28 pm »
Screw

Long screws, drill holes that are the diameter of the screw shaft.

Nails will split it unless you drill and then you may as well have used screws.
<i>Marmite slave</i>

Jaded

  • The Codfather
  • Formerly known as Jaded
Re: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« Reply #11 on: 04 February, 2015, 12:24:32 pm »
Turn the nails upside down and lightly hit the points with a hammer to flatten slightly, so that they crush a bit rather than split as they are hit in.
It is simpler than it looks.

Re: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« Reply #12 on: 04 February, 2015, 04:15:50 pm »
1mm pins by 20mm are working nicely.

PH
Bees do nothing invariably.

Re: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« Reply #13 on: 08 February, 2015, 07:53:21 pm »
Thanks for that.

Water is not an issue these boxes only need to last 24 hours to transport the bees to sale.

PH

Cardboard boxes? I assume bees, unlike wasps, will not eat the cardboard for breakfast.

(Is this what they call 'thinking outside the box'?)
Move Faster and Bake Things

Re: 9mm OSB2 Joining to the edge.
« Reply #14 on: 09 February, 2015, 09:11:22 am »
Two problems with cardboard.

One. Yes the bees can and will chew through it.

Two. There is not a cardboard box  know of that is designed to hold frames of bees. Very specialist area this. :)

PH
Bees do nothing invariably.