Worldwide, tropical cyclone activity peaks in late summer, when the difference between temperatures aloft and sea surface temperatures is the greatest. However, each particular basin has its own seasonal patterns. On a worldwide scale, May is the least active month, while September is the most active.[1] In the Northern Atlantic Ocean, a distinct hurricane season occurs from June 1 to November 30, sharply peaking from late August through September;[1] the season's climatological peak of activity occurs around September 10 each season.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_hurricane_season
At least you kept your powder dry. It could have been worse for me. If I'd known about it, I might have filmed some of the failed attempt.
has the other guy (Michael Broadwith) had a go yet?
http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/lands-end-john-o-groats-break-unbreakable-cycling-record-379965
has the other guy (Michael Broadwith) had a go yet?
http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/lands-end-john-o-groats-break-unbreakable-cycling-record-379965
has the other guy (Michael Broadwith) had a go yet?
The interplay of place-to-place records and the 24 hour TTs is an interesting area. Road Records Association records were the province of professionals at one time, and depend on the right weather conditions.
24 Hour TTs are a purer test, but have been subject to improvement from bike design, nutrition and training. There are also lots of different 24's. We've got the 'World 24 Hour Champion' on here. That's an event promoted by the company that now owns RAAM. It's all a bit like the various boxing titles. With lots of room for fans to decide who is 'The Greatest'. There's no money in it though, so it has a bit more purity.
As Wheels of Fire hints, a lot is down to the team behind these rides, both on the road, and domestically. As a spectator, one has more contact with the team than the rider.
The distances in the 'World 24 Hour Championship' seem to be about 20 miles short of the Mersey Roads distances. I wonder what that's down to?
https://my5.raceresult.com/65136/results?lang=en#24_322C57
I think I saw Hippy comment that some of the circuit is a bit rough and it's lightly traffic'd. The Mersey course does benefit from traffic drag - I had some very close passes from fast moving trucks last year.
Other riders going over there from the UK found it very hot during the day and pretty cold on the night sections.
The distances in the 'World 24 Hour Championship' seem to be about 20 miles short of the Mersey Roads distances. I wonder what that's down to?
https://my5.raceresult.com/65136/results?lang=en#24_322C57
come ride it and find out ;-)
If I ever did a 24 again it would be to get the VTTA standard, so travelling thousands of miles to do fewer miles wouldn't appeal.
The interplay of sponsorship, media coverage and prestige is the most interesting aspect to me. Things were simpler when it was bike manufacturers sponsoring attempts. The closest modern equivalent is probably Ultra-Cycling, where sales of 'Adventure' bikes can be promoted.
Just to bring you upto speed on the natives, Ms Duracell, ESL and I actually raced each-other for 24hrs on the Mersey a few years back. It wasn't his first. Sadly neither of us troubled the podium. (In fact, that may have been Wheels-of-Fire's year, certainly around then ... )QuoteIf I ever did a 24 again it would be to get the VTTA standard, so travelling thousands of miles to do fewer miles wouldn't appeal.
The interplay of sponsorship, media coverage and prestige is the most interesting aspect to me. Things were simpler when it was bike manufacturers sponsoring attempts. The closest modern equivalent is probably Ultra-Cycling, where sales of 'Adventure' bikes can be promoted.
In that case, just do the Mersey 24hr, it is THE best TT in the UK each year, in my biased view.
In that case, just do the Mersey 24hr, it is THE best TT in the UK each year, in my biased view.
It's nice to see a new generation sing its praises. The Mersey Roads certainly deserves to be better known. It was renowned as a friendly event when I did my first 24 at the North Roads Centenary in 1998.
I suppose the LEJOG route might go along part of the Mersey Roads route. The A49 ends about a mile from my house, and becomes the A6. Those two roads must account for a lot of the distance in England.
I suppose the LEJOG route might go along part of the Mersey Roads route. The A49 ends about a mile from my house, and becomes the A6. Those two roads must account for a lot of the distance in England.
The interplay of place-to-place records and the 24 hour TTs is an interesting area. Road Records Association records were the province of professionals at one time, and depend on the right weather conditions.
24 Hour TTs are a purer test, but have been subject to improvement from bike design, nutrition and training. There are also lots of different 24's. We've got the 'World 24 Hour Champion' on here. That's an event promoted by the company that now owns RAAM. It's all a bit like the various boxing titles. With lots of room for fans to decide who is 'The Greatest'. There's no money in it though, so it has a bit more purity.
As Wheels of Fire hints, a lot is down to the team behind these rides, both on the road, and domestically. As a spectator, one has more contact with the team than the rider.
Let's hear it for the women too please. Here is a blog by the 'World 24 Hour Champion';-)
https://duracellbunnyonabike.com/2018/06/07/the-women-of-the-end-to-end/ (https://duracellbunnyonabike.com/2018/06/07/the-women-of-the-end-to-end/)
Those marshalls at Epsley island on the night circuit were particularly friendly :thumbsup: ;)
Do we know what he'll be wearing? I will be leaving work about the time that he's cycling past tomorrow and I'm tempted to stand on the roadside and cheer!
Running about 30mins up on his own schedule which is to break the record by 34mins.
Seems like it's getting difficult out there...
Wow WoF
Congratulations Mike. Who knew Twitter plus a dot on a map could be so gripping.
Some of the video from Shap to Wick, in remembrance of my Dad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LTFDLDE7o4
Thanks, Damon. I thought it was going to be a horror film when I heard Bill Medley's attempts to hit some correct notes in the introductory bars!
Jasmijn has just announced that she is going to wait until September. Too hot and not windy enough for her now (and it seems she can't go during the school holidays).
Seems like a good call as the heat would sap energy.
a new record attempt has begun!
https://twitter.com/Elliott_LEJOG
:thumbsup:
a new record attempt has begun!
https://twitter.com/Elliott_LEJOG
:thumbsup:
I have been involved a tiny amount .. but can not make the Saturday start.. so not in the actual "on road" support crew .. gutted.
This is a well planned , well thought out , well organised attempt.
Fingers crossed that it goes well for Jasmin
Duracellbunnyonabike is off at 5 am this Saturday 1st September.
I'll be in one of the support vans "looking after" the food... :demon:
Interesting. Saturday is my 60th Birthday, and we were thinking of going to North West Scotland, as that's my favourite place. I'd not been wanting to spend any of my own money on filming, but this might fit in, especially given the footage I already have of the male record.
Interesting. Saturday is my 60th Birthday, and we were thinking of going to North West Scotland, as that's my favourite place. I'd not been wanting to spend any of my own money on filming, but this might fit in, especially given the footage I already have of the male record.
Ha!
Reading your report and your reluctance to make the film, it looks like fate is giving you a raw deal. Just to whet your appetite a bit more and as your videos tend to have multi faceted stories, there is also the two very (youngest is 4) young girls riding tag alongs, Katie and Rhoda. They are due to arrive at John O Groats on Sunday afternoon but have run into big problems so it's a bit of a nailbiter, so you possibly have 3 stories to tie in there and arguably 3 different takes on the end to end record (though the two young girls on the tagalongs isn't being sanctioned anywhere as far as I know) so this could re-set the storyboard in your head and give you the inspiration you need to make that video.
Or not....
Can't fault you on NW Scotland being your favourite place either and happy 60th!
Not looking good,. Tracker at service station in Kendal. Not moved for 30 mins toAlways happy to respond on the event twitter feed in real time @LejogRecord. Unfortunately the tracker seems to getting a bit dozy and has been nodding off for a few minutes at a time ever since we left Lands End
a new record attempt has begun!
https://twitter.com/Elliott_LEJOG
:thumbsup:
And there's another one in progress too, I think.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45227627 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45227627)
Mr Wells wasn’t cycling for any particular cause, just for the sheer enjoyment of riding his bike. He likes to keep active and is part of a walking group at home.
Donald said of his adventure, “I’m pleased with what I did but it’s just like any normal cycle ride for me, I don’t see it as anything particularly daring.
“I felt fine after I finished the ride – no aches and pains. I don’t rush and tear around, I take it easy.
“I suppose it’s what’s I’ve been doing all my life. I feel at home on a bike.”
Just got back home from crewing.
I wasn't there at the start and joined Jasmijn just south of Bridgewater to hand up a bottle with the sleep support van in case the other two support vans lost her in traffic in bridgewater, which is a bottleneck for traffic. (We lost Wheels of Fire in Bridgewater and never caught him until just before bristol, where he lost us again and recaught him up the A38)
Jasmijn looked very good and as if she was pacing herself very well, which she was. We nearly missed feeding her because the tracker was lagging quite a lot but as it turned out, she had already picked up a bottle and had eaten er food, so just threw me the wrapper to put in a bin.
Jasmijn made very good progress and looked very strong and was more or less on schedule. But going into the night she was becoming a bit spaced out. She looked very good on the bike and rode very well but showing signs of tiredness.
Just before the 24 hours were up she stopped to change clothes etc and she was still spaced out and tired. She was also not eating or drinking to her food schedule. Not eating enough. Not a good sign that she'd get through a second night but you can never always tell and she was still well in time to get the record, even if she hadn't managed the 24 hour record. She still rode 419 miles in the 24 hours, to my knowledge (best to check that than take my word for it)
Thereafter, Jasmijn was stopping for changes of clothes more often and losing a lot of time. She was still spaced out and feeling cold, so stopped in Kendal before climbing Shap. We would have stopped a bit later but it was drizzling, not very warm and there's not really anywhere to stop on Shap so we pulled the support van into a closed petrol garage where she could change clothes sheltered from the rain under the garage roof by the pumps and have a sleep in the van.
This didn't revive her as much as I hoped it would but it was still quite early, so I hoped she'd ride steady, which was still fast enough, and start recovering before going into the second night.
We encouraged her to keep going steadily and get her eating and drinking more but wasn't having much luck. Jasmijn was still very spaced out but riding very solid and starting to recover, but not very much. The team were doubtful but hopeful and asked me what I thought.
I said that it doesn't look good. It's still possible but she needs to recover if she is going to get through another night and even then, when you struggle through the first night, it doesn't bode well for the second night, so if she does recover enough to get through another night it will be very hard.
We managed to get Jasmijn eating and drinking a bit more, which was encouraging but it was still tough going and she told us a few times that she wouldn't do it or that the end to end was over but the 1000 might still be on. I told her it was still possible and she still had a chance and to just take it steady and keep moving. But she was fighting a hard battle. After feeling l, she got hot and there were stops to change clothing etc which were eating up time. She did start to perk up a bit but was still tired and a bit spaced out.
At around Perth, I had done 2 crew shifts in the supple van and swapped to the sleep van so we could go ahead up the A9 to get some sleep in the van before doing another supply van shift, which was leapfrogging Jasmijn so we could hand up food and drink.
When I awoke in the seep van ready to my next shift, I read the message in our What's App team group, that Jasmijn had packed.
I wasn't surprised. She fought a hard battle for about 18 hours. Not physically. She always looked very good on the bike and was strong. I think it was down to not getting enough sleep in the run up to setting off and everyone on the team, as we as Jasmijn seemed to agree that it probably was a significant factor.
I was glad that when I saw her in the morning that she wasn't beating herself up about it and in good spirits. She looked very good physically and walking OK. Not hobbling around and stiff as you might expect for someone who had just ridden over 600 miles in well under 2 days.
So we had breakfast then spent all day driving back to unload helpers, observers and then sort out the 3 vanloads of bikes, clothes and other stuff.
What we shot of Jasmijn's ride. An hour later we were watching the customers at the Mc Kay hotel in Pitlochry drinking their beers on the terrace in the 18 degree C heat. We went for a stroll down the high street in short sleeves.
https://vimeo.com/289059509
In terms of success or failure, I think Mike Hall had it right (http://bikepacker.com/mike-hall-tour-divide-champion/)A lot of wisdom in there, and not just about ultra cycling. That is a philosophy for life.
What would you like to say to all of the aspiring Tour Divide enthusiasts, and the riders currently on route? Enjoy it, don’t lose sight of just how lucky you are to be there, and above all, manage your expectations. I was chatting about this with some friends in Banff. I think if we treat things as a pass or fail test that we can torture ourselves mentally over the outcome, but if we consider it more as an experiment with an uncertain outcome from the start, then we always at least get an answer.
Thank you for the cheering Damon and thanks for the video. Sorry I couldn't make your efforts more worthwhile.
I was shit scared of another massive speed wobble occurring on the long descend into Inverness in the dark, in the wet, in the wind, on this lovely A9 after the massive speed wobble I had on the A30.
© Anfield Bicycle Club
At midnight on 23rd August, Mr. Lawrence Fletcher left the Land's End on a Safety Bicycle hoping to beat the John O' Groat's Record. The weather held fine until 5 o'clock at night, when the rain began to fall, and after riding through awful weather for 9 hours, he abandoned the attempt at Kidderminster, being even then some 7 hours ahead of the previous best.
A few weeks later Mr. G. P. Mills started from the Land's End on a Safety Bicycle, and despite bad weather, heavy roads and the long dark nights of late September, succeeded in reaching John O' Groats House in 4 days, 11 hrs. 17 mins., thus beating by 14 hours his own Record which has stood since 1886. Throughout this journey Mr. Mills was paced and generally looked after by Messrs. J. D. Siddeley, R. H. Carlisle and W. W. Shaw, and desires to express his sense of the unfailing kindness and invaluable help freely accorded to him by these Members.
Perhaps the finest performance of the whole year was that of Mr. G. P. Mills in the International Road Race from Bordeaux to Paris, when, riding under Anfield colors, he not only beat all the leading French Amateurs, but also such "crack" riders as Messrs. Holbein, Bates and S. F. Edge, and covered the distance, 361 miles, in 26h. 34m. 25s. winning by 1 1/2 hours, and proving that he was still entitled to be considered the finest long distance rider in the World. For this capital performance your Committee awarded Mr. Mills a special prize.
Mr. Mills was paced ... by Messrs. J. D. Siddeley, R. H. Carlisle and W. W. Shaw(empasis mine). Does "paced" imply drafting?
The current fastest route on land public transport takes a timetabled 22 hours 45 minutes, departing Land's End car park at 14:35 on day 1 and arriving at John o' Groats ferry terminal car park at 13:20 on day 2. This involves a bus to Penzance, trains to Crewe to meet the London–Inverness sleeper train, then the following morning buses via Wick to John o' Groats. As of January 2011, an ordinary one-way railway fare for the rail section of the journey cost £216.
I am an idiot. I hadn't even thought of trains...
During the race, nine riders were excluded because of, among other actions, illegal use of cars or trains. The Tour organizers were happy with the result, but the Union Vélocipédique Française (UVF) started an investigation after complaints from other cyclists. Their investigative committee heard testimony from dozens of competitors and witnesses, and, in December 1904, disqualified all the stage winners and the first four finishers (Maurice Garin, Pothier, César Garin, and Aucouturier). Ten of those disqualified were banned for one year, Maurice Garin for two years and the remaining two for life.[1] In total, 29 riders were punished.[4] The reasons for the disqualification were never made public.[23]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1904_Tour_de_France#Disqualification
Fifth-placed Henri Cornet, aged 19, then became the youngest ever winner of the Tour.[24] Cornet had also been warned after he had received a lift by a car.[4] Only 15 cyclists from the original 27 that finished were not disqualified.[25]
Following the disqualifications, the Tour de France came nearest in history to being permanently cancelled.[26] The race organiser Henri Desgrange, said he would never run the race again because it had been overtaken by the "blind emotions" of those who attacked or helped riders as they passed. Desgrange was also upset that the UVF had imposed judgement on his race when he had already disciplined riders as he saw fit.
An angry exchange ensued between Desgrange and the UVF but the letters and the detailed complaints that led to the UVF's actions were lost when the Tour de France archives were transported south in 1940 to avoid the German invasion and were never seen again.[25]
Until the end of his life, Garin always said that he was the rightful winner of the 1904 Tour de France, but according to Les Woodland, Garin confessed to a friend that he had cheated.[4]
The Audax Randonee formula, with cards and secret controls, is a remnant of the measures used to ensure that the individual rider has done what they say.
Obviously there isn't the incentive in Audax to cheat that pro-racing has. There aren't the commercial pressures, or the coverage to provide prestige.
it still happens occasionally, i've seen one instance during the pbp2011 where a van slowed down next to one rider in the distance, who grabbed onto the mirror and they slowly disappeared into the distance. i've seen another case of cheating on 1001 miglia italia, but these were the only two throughout my ten years of randonneuring. i wish there wasn't any, but some people are wired that way unfortunately.. :)
Blog as promised: https://duracellbunnyonabike.com/2018/09/14/and-in-the-end/That's a really good piece of writing, and I salute your honesty and your spirit. Good luck with your future plans, and I look forward to watching your dot moving around the continents over the next few years!
I asked Michael Broadwith about the relationship of adventure racing to LEJOG and the 24 prior to the Mersey Roads. Jasmijn is visible in the background a couple of times as she warmed up.Nice. The line I most notice in there is:
https://vimeo.com/290081713
I asked Michael Broadwith about the relationship of adventure racing to LEJOG and the 24 prior to the Mersey Roads. Jasmijn is visible in the background a couple of times as she warmed up.
https://vimeo.com/290081713
I asked Michael Broadwith about the relationship of adventure racing to LEJOG and the 24 prior to the Mersey Roads. Jasmijn is visible in the background a couple of times as she warmed up.
There's a surprisingly small number of us who have done both. I expect it will grow in the near future as Jasmijn has entered Race around the Netherlands next year and I'm aware of other 24 hour riders with plans.
Both involve pedalling for a long time at as high a speed as you are able to sustain but, otherwise, I'd say that they are not that similar.
On the 24 you have to be much more focused on riding round the same roads over and over again, and you are going a good 5mph quicker - so for someone like me there would be a similar speed difference between a 25 mile TT and the 24 and the 24 and, say, TCR.
Ultra-races are mentally much easier as you are going from A to B, often through pretty scenery and places you may have long-wanted to visit - nobody says that about Prees or Tern Hill! You have lots of other challenges, from routing to finding food and somewhere to sleep, but, in the grand scheme of things, they are not as hard as the one big challenge of racing for 24 hours.
Anyway - apologies for going further off topic!
There's usually a conversation on the 24 about which Tour rider would be able to do the biggest distance. So there's a desire to be able to calibrate the various disciplines against each other.
Stuart Birnie and Ultan Coyle have straddled a lot of the boundaries. But has anyone done 24 Hours, RAAM, LEJOG, PBP and Transcontinental adventure racing? The 24 and LEJOG are essentially cycling under laboratory conditions, and the 24 feeds into the UMCA system. RAAM is now controlled by the same company as the 'World 24 Hour Championship'.
So there's always the potential for a 'unification', an answer to the question of who is the best long distance cyclist. But the waters are muddied by the question of safety. I think that the road is a truer test than the track, but I do breathe a sigh of relief when everyone is safely home.
LEJOG is interesting in that there is an inherent jeopardy in starting out. There is potential for a consolation prize at 24 Hours, but the aim is to exceed the record, and you don't get the chance to post the second fastest time ever. So it's all or nothing, with considerable logistical costs.
Sorry to continue hijacking the thread but I found this really interesting. I rode the 24 in July, my first attempt. Having ridden a lot of Audax previously I actually found the 24 mentally quite easy. No worries about routing, controls, food etc. Just ride the bike. After a couple of laps I knew where I could push, where I needed to go steady, where I could make up time etc. and very quickly found a rhythm to it. I really enjoyed the simplicity of it all despite having to swap bikes early on and bonking spectacularly at around 22 hours, losing around 40 minutes while the crew poured lucozade and jaffa cakes into me. Hoping to ride the TCR next year but also want to go again in the 24 as I know I could go further with the lessons learned on the first one. The timing will make that a challenge though. Is a week enough to recover from a 24?
There's usually a conversation on the 24 about which Tour rider would be able to do the biggest distance. So there's a desire to be able to calibrate the various disciplines against each other.
Stuart Birnie and Ultan Coyle have straddled a lot of the boundaries. But has anyone done 24 Hours, RAAM, LEJOG, PBP and Transcontinental adventure racing? The 24 and LEJOG are essentially cycling under laboratory conditions, and the 24 feeds into the UMCA system. RAAM is now controlled by the same company as the 'World 24 Hour Championship'.
So there's always the potential for a 'unification', an answer to the question of who is the best long distance cyclist. But the waters are muddied by the question of safety. I think that the road is a truer test than the track, but I do breathe a sigh of relief when everyone is safely home.
LEJOG is interesting in that there is an inherent jeopardy in starting out. There is potential for a consolation prize at 24 Hours, but the aim is to exceed the record, and you don't get the chance to post the second fastest time ever. So it's all or nothing, with considerable logistical costs.
I'll stick with George Pilkington-Mills as the best long-distance cyclist so far. Partly for his engineering contributions to cycling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Pilkington_Mills
One of the other big differences is the cost of doing an event. Support crews are expensive so doing RAAM costs tens of thousands of dollars. A support crew for the 24 might cost a few hundred pounds, but LEJoG would be a lot more.:thumbsup:
But you could do the 24 unsupported for not very much (you don't even need accomodation!) and an ultra-race like the TCR is not expensive relative to other 2-week holidays. Same for PBP.
One of Mike Hall's aims was to make the TCR accessible to people who were not well-off.
One of the other big differences is the cost of doing an event. Support crews are expensive so doing RAAM costs tens of thousands of dollars. A support crew for the 24 might cost a few hundred pounds, but LEJoG would be a lot more.:thumbsup:
But you could do the 24 unsupported for not very much (you don't even need accomodation!) and an ultra-race like the TCR is not expensive relative to other 2-week holidays. Same for PBP.
One of Mike Hall's aims was to make the TCR accessible to people who were not well-off.
i would add:
You mention that budgets for the 24 can vary hugely; well riding LEJOG is the same, but the oddity there is that loads of people ride it outside the official attempt framework. One presumes that none of them are aiming to break a record, but you can't be sure! (I know our club has a semi-official record holder - he's a tester, not an audaxer, but rode it with his tent in ~93hours. No gps, no strava, no RRA, no Guinness.) Almost everyone that stumps up the official fee will also get a support crew - so there is a 2-tier culture there (with a few leaking through the barrier!)
You mention that budgets for the 24 can vary hugely; well riding LEJOG is the same, but the oddity there is that loads of people ride it outside the official attempt framework. One presumes that none of them are aiming to break a record, but you can't be sure! (I know our club has a semi-official record holder - he's a tester, not an audaxer, but rode it with his tent in ~93hours. No gps, no strava, no RRA, no Guinness.) Almost everyone that stumps up the official fee will also get a support crew - so there is a 2-tier culture there (with a few leaking through the barrier!)
You mention that budgets for the 24 can vary hugely; well riding LEJOG is the same, but the oddity there is that loads of people ride it outside the official attempt framework. One presumes that none of them are aiming to break a record, but you can't be sure! (I know our club has a semi-official record holder - he's a tester, not an audaxer, but rode it with his tent in ~93hours. No gps, no strava, no RRA, no Guinness.) Almost everyone that stumps up the official fee will also get a support crew - so there is a 2-tier culture there (with a few leaking through the barrier!)
There are quite a few tiers. Obviously you can do the ride wholly on your own, or with company. Many seem to have camper-van backup. Many seem to have a charity link-up. There are commercial tours, and there are big corporate events. Mark Hummerstone offers four different permanents for LEJOG, including a Randonee. http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/MH01/
There is a permanent from Calais to Istanbul, http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/SJ01/ but that's not such a popular route. It might pick up if people are inspired by TCR. I recall an Arrivee article when George Hannah and others rode it.
I had a think about the crossover between the various bodies concerned with long distance cycling in the UK. RRA, AUK and the 24 Hour Fellowship, and the common factor is Jim Hopper. That reminded me that the only current LEJOG record holder to have ridden PBP is Jane Moore.
There is a permanent from Calais to Istanbul, http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/SJ01/ but that's not such a popular route. It might pick up if people are inspired by TCR. I recall an Arrivee article when George Hannah and others rode it.You could well be right; TCR certainly inspired me to ride the slightly lesser Eiger Sanction (Dunkirk-Eiger-Nice) http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/ML01/
I had a think about the crossover between the various bodies concerned with long distance cycling in the UK. RRA, AUK and the 24 Hour Fellowship, and the common factor is Jim Hopper. That reminded me that the only current LEJOG record holder to have ridden PBP is Jane Moore.
The Indian Mail was ridden by John Barkman, George Hanna, Simon Kolka and Danny Fisher.
There’s a really good Arrivee article written by Simon.
Bit OT now....
The Indian Mail was ridden by John Barkman, George Hanna, Simon Kolka and Danny Fisher.
There’s a really good Arrivee article written by Simon.
Bit OT now....
What edition was it? I'll have it somewhere. I suppose it will be in the results if we can remember the year.
The Indian Mail was ridden by John Barkman, George Hanna, Simon Kolka and Danny Fisher.
There’s a really good Arrivee article written by Simon.
Bit OT now....
What edition was it? I'll have it somewhere. I suppose it will be in the results if we can remember the year.
I’ll have it somewhere. I’d suspect early 2000s.
Nick Clarke is currently attempting to beat Marina Bloom's 14-year old Side-to-Side (Pembroke to Gt Yarmouth) record - set off at 6:01 today. Tracker here (https://livetrack.garmin.com/session/3000923d-1907-4833-b2da-dbdc476b4172/token/5BF62D876E653C7F6911E2613D4CBE).
So a 'Blue Sky' project for me would be Michael Broadwith riding PBP, aiming to beat 'Oppy's time.
So a 'Blue Sky' project for me would be Michael Broadwith riding PBP, aiming to beat 'Oppy's time.
from what i've read in the pbp rules, there has been a small amendment as they will not homologate if the finishing time is less than xx:xx hours (28kph overall average). so for the really fast ones, if they are ahead of time, they could have a lie-down/nap/beer just before crossing the finish line.
So a 'Blue Sky' project for me would be Michael Broadwith riding PBP, aiming to beat 'Oppy's time.
from what i've read in the pbp rules, there has been a small amendment as they will not homologate if the finishing time is less than xx:xx hours (28kph overall average). so for the really fast ones, if they are ahead of time, they could have a lie-down/nap/beer just before crossing the finish line.
So take away the ability to ride a full-on TT bike and have roadside support. Add the ability to ride in groups and co-operate.
Would the average speed be lower or higher ?
I think the crossover between PBP and 24hr testing is not necessary a natural one. I think PBP isn't really on the radar for them and there's only a handful of people that ride long TTs and Audax.
In recent times I can think of Gethin, Warnock and Hippy having a go. Gethin did a decent ride but, IIRC, couldn't get away in the A group. Warnock broke his front wheel in 2011 and hasn't been back. Hippy tried it out last time but not everything worked OK so I think he's going back this year.
I'm not sure that it's quite the same discipline. As Mike pointed out in his last interview he really didn't have to think during the End-to-End attempt as his crew were running things - he just had to ride. I know that's an oversimplification but running in and out of checkpoints, filling bottles an grabbing food makes it into a different experience.
<...> but then the problem is co-ordinating sleep patterns.
Hippy tried it out last time but not everything worked OK so I think he's going back this year.
I'm not sure that it's quite the same discipline.
average rolling speed would be similar (we were rolling at 35kph for the first 300k, iirc), but much more time spent at controls during pbp.
"Pot Belge" sounds like pretty awesome stuff.<...> but then the problem is co-ordinating sleep patterns.
this would be easy as no-one aiming for a fast time is planning to sleep (two days without sleep is bearable, if unhealthy)..
i'd like to know what has the winner of the first pbp consumed to stay awake for more than t h r e e days in a row! :)
Biggest challenge is that I doubt he'd want to do it. Certainly the qualifiers don't fit what he does2 short days and 2 long days out on the bike? Useful shakedowns, shirley! ;)
It occurred to me that two LEJOG record holders have ridden PBP, Gethin Butler in 2003, and Hubert Opperman in 1931, who won PBP in a sprint.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8nRj_tPvZk
Opperman did LEJOG in 1934, and inspired a board game.
http://www.cyclingboardgames.net/g_landsend.htm
Opperman did LEJOG in 1934, and inspired a board game.
http://www.cyclingboardgames.net/g_landsend.htm
This game looks amazing, I was lucky enough to have the Kessock and Cromarty bridges to jump me from square 50 straight to 53.
Ian To just announced he is planning a 3rd go this year (some time between May and July). Christine Mackenzie will try to break the female record in August 2019. Good luck to them both. Give them a follow and a cheer.