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Title: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 09 April, 2014, 07:21:14 pm
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/cycling/IGOR/100_1828_zps93fc5352.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/cycling/IGOR/100_1828_zps93fc5352.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 09 April, 2014, 07:23:41 pm
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/cycling/blodwyn/100_1841_zpsd1f57b32.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/cycling/blodwyn/100_1841_zpsd1f57b32.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 11 April, 2014, 08:00:40 pm
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/IMAG0023_zps93c7c748.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/IMAG0023_zps93c7c748.jpg.html)
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/IMAG0024_zps5bf209fc.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/IMAG0024_zps5bf209fc.jpg.html)

Dans Broadstairs Sur le Mer. 
Happened to be walking past , taking too much interest, and was accosted by the fella 'what painted it'.  ''Apparently, but keep this amongst 'yerselves', it's bin 'ired by Vogue magazine for one of them photo shoot fings, but shhhh!''
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Deano on 11 April, 2014, 08:07:50 pm
Hold on - that last one doesn't have a bike in the shot!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 11 April, 2014, 08:09:21 pm
this is gallery OT   ::-)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Deano on 11 April, 2014, 08:11:39 pm
Didn't stop you in the first two pics :)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: andrew_s on 12 April, 2014, 12:47:01 am
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/20za49b5n94u6we/kathleen_ann_zps738ab590.jpg?raw=1)
Kathleen Ann
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 12 April, 2014, 09:39:15 am
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2654/4009919914_592899327c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/77kTuf)
IMG_0306 (https://flic.kr/p/77kTuf) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/people/36539950@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 12 April, 2014, 01:22:47 pm
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t207/andrew_sw/kathleen_ann_zps738ab590.jpg)
Kathleen Ann


That is loverly. just needs a torn canopy and a couple of torpedos poking out the front. (African Queen)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mcshroom on 12 April, 2014, 02:57:55 pm
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yrDeaYxmOKo/Uy4RXcXXnoI/AAAAAAAAFJg/boQgCVrQCQw/w737-h553-no/DSCF1655)
HMS Unicorn
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: David Martin on 13 April, 2014, 09:54:22 pm
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yrDeaYxmOKo/Uy4RXcXXnoI/AAAAAAAAFJg/boQgCVrQCQw/w737-h553-no/DSCF1655)
HMS Unicorn
A ship commissioned for a war which was over before it was launched. So they never fitted it with masts but kept it mothballed. When the next war came along it was obsolete so used as admiralty offices.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 April, 2014, 12:48:53 pm
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FYEohDTRwZWBeh-mNHpyw3BQcxuLtp978bVRnr_xBA=w345-h259-p-no)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: T42 on 14 April, 2014, 02:19:16 pm
(http://www.pbase.com/johnewing/image/154921923.jpg)

Dutch barge on the Rhine/Marne canal.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 14 April, 2014, 04:14:16 pm
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yrDeaYxmOKo/Uy4RXcXXnoI/AAAAAAAAFJg/boQgCVrQCQw/w737-h553-no/DSCF1655)
HMS Unicorn
Captain Flint needed a few spare rooms for his monkeys and parrots.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 14 April, 2014, 07:49:02 pm
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/100_1866_zpsfa6c6c6b.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/100_1866_zpsfa6c6c6b.jpg.html)

Old ex-Soviet sub. used to be moored down at Folkestone harbour, but now sits rotting away in Rochester.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: jsabine on 15 April, 2014, 01:43:00 am
It was parked at Woolwich for a while too - can still see the tourist info signs for it, taped over.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 15 April, 2014, 03:53:26 pm
(http://www.pbase.com/johnewing/image/154921923.jpg)

Dutch barge on the Rhine/Marne canal.

That's *very* similar to our boat (which is a groningen boltjalk), just smaller. I'm guessing but I think the boat in your pic is about 45-50ft long.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: andrew_s on 16 April, 2014, 09:52:54 pm
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t207/andrew_sw/skidbladnir_longship_zpsd81ca68d.jpg)
A replica of the Gokstad ship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gokstad_ship) built in 1998 for an Atlantic crossing project that never quite happened (at Haroldswick, Unst)

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/pi417x65pbr3bob/longboat_lerwick_zpsf3a41d6f.jpg?raw=1)
and a somewhat smaller replica, in seaworthy condition (Lerwick)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: David Martin on 16 April, 2014, 10:54:43 pm
There are some fantastic coastal boat designs in Norway and shetland that mirror the ownderful lines of a longship. One of the most awesome maritime experiences is to visit the vikinskipene museum on Bygdøy, Oslo and just marvel at the sheer beauty of thousand year old ships that crossed oceans. The cathedral - like setting really amplifies the emotion.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 20 April, 2014, 01:10:45 pm
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/100_1887_zpsa1063169.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/100_1887_zpsa1063169.jpg.html)
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/100_1886_zpsb1ce8d9e.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/100_1886_zpsb1ce8d9e.jpg.html)

In Queenborough harbour, Sheppey
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: andrew_s on 20 April, 2014, 10:53:59 pm
Similar, but bigger...
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/i2c81qf49p9qt1g/matthew_zps69f52ae6.jpg?raw=1)
A replica of John Cabot's Matthew

I did see a yacht dressed up as a square rigger last year, complete with faux gun ports. Unfortunately it had gone by the time I fetched my camera - presumably through the lock and up towards Worcester.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Torslanda on 20 April, 2014, 11:02:52 pm
How this got into Lac de Vassiviere I'll never know . . .

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d55/shedbike/France%202012/008.jpg)

I was looking for Philip Madoc but couldn't see him anywhere.

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d55/shedbike/France%202012/021.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: clarion on 26 May, 2014, 03:27:32 pm
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5040/14273605924_463231c258_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nKiXKS)P5254676 (https://flic.kr/p/nKiXKS) by TJ Clarion (https://www.flickr.com/people/93751227@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: nicknack on 26 May, 2014, 10:50:07 pm
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/100_1887_zpsa1063169.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/100_1887_zpsa1063169.jpg.html)
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/100_1886_zpsb1ce8d9e.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/100_1886_zpsb1ce8d9e.jpg.html)

In Queenborough harbour, Sheppey
That's Lee's boat wot he built himself. Looks like him in the first pic with the hat.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 06 June, 2014, 07:09:05 pm
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-sthaJe0a6q4/U5IDkjUU27I/AAAAAAAAF1Q/G-rK3hNOYKI/s720/P1000875.jpg)
In the harbour in Split
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Panoramix on 06 June, 2014, 11:22:47 pm
http://youtu.be/ptPN9LgRNBY

They've automated the lighthouses since then.

PS : I can't embed videos for some reason!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 07 August, 2014, 12:50:07 pm
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/100_1271_zps2ac6ad76.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/100_1271_zps2ac6ad76.jpg.html)

LV 21 (light vessel)  decommissioned ,and now privately owned and used as a music / arts venue, moored at Gillingham Pier.


(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/100_1272_zps5ff2859d.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/100_1272_zps5ff2859d.jpg.html)


And this would be the,   er.....
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 07 August, 2014, 04:05:58 pm



(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/100_1272_zps5ff2859d.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/100_1272_zps5ff2859d.jpg.html)


And this would be the,   er.....
Is that the same boat as the wreck which was sat onna floating pontoon / barge on the Medway in Rochester for the last three years or so - just to the east of Rochester bridge.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 07 August, 2014, 11:22:46 pm
Yep, now restored thanks to Mr. Lottery Grant.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: andrew_s on 14 August, 2014, 12:13:17 am
3 sailing ships have arrived, apparently for the filming of "Through the Looking Glass" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-28760641), starring Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter.
Another 1 or 2 are apparently due tomorrow,

Arrived Tuesday, the "Wonder" (film name - actually the "Earl of Pembroke" of Bristol):
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/7lwknfex2x6p0pg/wonder_zps3789325b.jpg?raw=1)

Arrived Wednesday, the "Irene" (painted black for filming):
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/5f5dpihwqt605cd/Irene_zps30a1166d.jpg?raw=1)

and the "Lady of Avanel":
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/683meihqbiogi9d/Lady_of_Avanel_zps2ab64068.jpg?raw=1)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Vince on 14 August, 2014, 11:55:34 am



(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/100_1272_zps5ff2859d.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/100_1272_zps5ff2859d.jpg.html)


And this would be the,   er.....
Is that the same boat as the wreck which was sat onna floating pontoon / barge on the Medway in Rochester for the last three years or so - just to the east of Rochester bridge.
It has had an essentially new hull, built in Bristol.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: andrew_s on 20 August, 2014, 02:32:51 am
Additional arrivals

Kathleen and May:
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/2rsoppaa86d1ijx/KathleenMay_zpse3ea1019.jpg?raw=1)

Excelsior
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/wmrtyg472ozxmys/excelsior_zpse29abb67.jpg?raw=1)

Olga (a pilot cutter)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/00oqm26muu602uf/olga_zps26b6016f.jpg?raw=1)


And the filming...
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/a3w9sdl8btu727x/GloucesterDocks_zps41016b51.jpg?raw=1)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Moose57 on 20 August, 2014, 07:09:23 am
(http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/85041103.jpg)

The Stubnitz from Rostock, a mobile platform for music, cultural production, documentation and communication.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Moose57 on 20 August, 2014, 07:27:35 am
(http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/96329210.jpg)

The San Marco, Venice.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Moose57 on 20 August, 2014, 07:28:55 am
(http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/79013346.jpg)

HMS Ocean, near the Dartford crossing.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Vince on 20 August, 2014, 08:22:59 am
And the filming...
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t207/andrew_sw/GloucesterDocks_zps41016b51.jpg)

Going to have to watch the film now to see if they remove the radar from the pilot boat's spreaders post production.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 20 August, 2014, 09:40:22 am
Is that Gloucester ?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: David Martin on 20 August, 2014, 10:16:53 am

Olga (a pilot cutter)
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t207/andrew_sw/olga_zps26b6016f.jpg)


I've always wanted to sail one of those. I figure that you'd need a good bit of space and it would be quite awesome. Owning and maintaining one would be beyond my wit, wallet and patience..
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Wowbagger on 20 August, 2014, 10:48:37 am
Dez spent a few days with his cousin on a narrow boat.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GvL9tMLPTbs
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: andrew_s on 20 August, 2014, 07:07:48 pm
Going to have to watch the film now to see if they remove the radar from the pilot boat's spreaders post production.
I suspect someone just forgot.
They had removed the radar from the Kathleen and May (left side of the Gloucester docks shot). It was being put back yesterday.

Update:
after checking more shots, the radars on the Kathleen and May, the Lady of Avanel, the Excelsior (LT472), the pilot cutter and the main star (Wonder/Earl of Pembroke) were all present during filming. The radar on the Earl of Pembroke was painted black, and the rader on the Excelsior was covered in canvas.
If you want to check, the other radars were located as follows
Kathleen and May: port end of mizzen mast speader
Lady of Avanel: On a separate pole a few feet the starboard side of the main mast (rear)
Excelsior: base of main topmast
Earl of Pembroke: at the base of the mizzen topmast
The Irene doesn't appear to have a radar.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: andrew_s on 20 August, 2014, 10:09:24 pm
I did see a yacht dressed up as a square rigger last year, complete with faux gun ports.
found the photo
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/g52hu7p88n7sprg/marjorie_zpse7a29035.jpg?raw=1)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Panoramix on 20 August, 2014, 11:21:00 pm

Olga (a pilot cutter)
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t207/andrew_sw/olga_zps26b6016f.jpg)


I've always wanted to sail one of those. I figure that you'd need a good bit of space and it would be quite awesome. Owning and maintaining one would be beyond my wit, wallet and patience..

You can charter one from Bristol, google "Edith Gray". I think that you can even rent just a berth. The skipper is a really nice and interesting person.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Riggers on 21 August, 2014, 08:50:55 am
Dez spent a few days with his cousin on a narrow boat.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GvL9tMLPTbs


Marvellous stuff Wowzer! How on earth did you/they get the aerial shots!? All very professional. Very nice and thanks for posting this.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 21 August, 2014, 09:05:40 am
Dez spent a few days with his cousin on a narrow boat.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GvL9tMLPTbs

As Riggers says a very accomplished effort, please pass on my congratulations to Dez.  The aerial shots from Dez's GoPro RC helicopter thingy are brilliant.  Please can you provide a link to some details of the machine?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Vince on 21 August, 2014, 11:35:29 am
Dez spent a few days with his cousin on a narrow boat.

As Riggers says a very accomplished effort, please pass on my congratulations to Dez.  The aerial shots from Dez's GoPro RC helicopter thingy are brilliant.  Please can you provide a link to some details of the machine?
What a splendid little film. It makes me realise that the go-pro and helethings have made a huge difference to the quality of amateur production. Despite that, Des still has the artistic direction to use the technology well. I tried to see Des using a remote control, but failed!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Riggers on 21 August, 2014, 12:11:27 pm
Had another look at it, at full-screen in HD. Jolly good.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: PaulF on 21 August, 2014, 12:20:52 pm
Not unusual but my son's first solo sail

(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/Paul_Fulford/158309BA-927B-42F0-9859-36D7F4132B49_zpsoieaeczf.jpg) (http://s62.photobucket.com/user/Paul_Fulford/media/158309BA-927B-42F0-9859-36D7F4132B49_zpsoieaeczf.jpg.html)

He's doing his Level 4 this week!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Dez on 21 August, 2014, 01:20:06 pm
Dez spent a few days with his cousin on a narrow boat.

As Riggers says a very accomplished effort, please pass on my congratulations to Dez.  The aerial shots from Dez's GoPro RC helicopter thingy are brilliant.  Please can you provide a link to some details of the machine?
What a splendid little film. It makes me realise that the go-pro and helethings have made a huge difference to the quality of amateur production. Despite that, Des still has the artistic direction to use the technology well. I tried to see Des using a remote control, but failed!

You're not looking hard enough - I'm in shot quite a bit! :-)

[edit] OK, turns out it's twice. I'm in shot in lots of the footage I didn't use though... :P
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Efrogwr on 21 August, 2014, 01:23:36 pm
Dez spent a few days with his cousin on a narrow boat.

As Riggers says a very accomplished effort, please pass on my congratulations to Dez.  The aerial shots from Dez's GoPro RC helicopter thingy are brilliant.  Please can you provide a link to some details of the machine?
What a splendid little film. It makes me realise that the go-pro and helethings have made a huge difference to the quality of amateur production. Despite that, Des still has the artistic direction to use the technology well. I tried to see Des using a remote control, but failed!

You're not looking hard enough - I'm in shot quite a bit! :-)

Were you wearing a blue jacket?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Dez on 21 August, 2014, 01:27:53 pm
We're you wearing a blue jacket?

It was a teal jumper that I knitted.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Efrogwr on 21 August, 2014, 01:38:52 pm
We're you wearing a blue jacket?

It was a teal jumper that I knitted.

Do you have a video downlink? You were looking down most of the time.

Well done; a nice little video.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Wowbagger on 21 August, 2014, 02:06:25 pm
There's a bird flying away from the camera at 3m 20s and I think it's a sparrowhawk. Not 100% sure though.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Dez on 21 August, 2014, 02:11:24 pm
Do you have a video downlink? You were looking down most of the time.

Well done; a nice little video.
I do - it arrived the day before I went!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Riggers on 21 August, 2014, 02:27:46 pm
Were you dressed up as the 'lady'?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 21 August, 2014, 02:33:30 pm
Dez, what sort of 'copter do you have?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: David Martin on 21 August, 2014, 04:26:32 pm
Not unusual but my son's first solo sail

(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/Paul_Fulford/158309BA-927B-42F0-9859-36D7F4132B49_zpsoieaeczf.jpg) (http://s62.photobucket.com/user/Paul_Fulford/media/158309BA-927B-42F0-9859-36D7F4132B49_zpsoieaeczf.jpg.html)

He's doing his Level 4 this week!

Blimy - I rememebr when it was the 'Elementary Dayboat Sailing cert' and you had to be able to do solo sailing on tidal and all sorts of other things..
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Dez on 21 August, 2014, 08:15:06 pm
Dez, what sort of 'copter do you have?

A Phantom 2 with a Zenmuse H3-3D gimbal.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 30 August, 2014, 02:06:22 am
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3903/15077239452_9aed67f44f_c.jpg)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3924/15054588796_5a8417f340_c.jpg)
This bad boy was outside the hotel this morning.  Big-ass Ford V8 with two four-barrel carbs in the back.  And a cool-box :thumbsup:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3920/14890949410_486fce8e97_c.jpg)
Going under the old London Bridge in Lake Havasu City and making a noise like Top Fuel dragsters in stereo :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 04 September, 2014, 03:00:46 pm
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/100_1292_zpsd7b8de98.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/100_1292_zpsd7b8de98.jpg.html)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/100_1288_zps2741ab08.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/100_1288_zps2741ab08.jpg.html)


Moored at Gravesend at the mo.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 04 September, 2014, 04:16:08 pm
There should be a lot more of that ^ this weekend at the Greenwich tall ships festival (http://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/tallships/site/index.php)

ETA Were you taking refreshment at the Promenade cafe when you took that?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 04 September, 2014, 04:41:04 pm
There should be a lot more of that ^ this weekend at the Greenwich tall ships festival (http://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/tallships/site/index.php)

ETA Were you taking refreshment at the Promenade cafe when you took that?

no, this was down by the PLA, /Clarendon Hotel/ferry jetty.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: David Martin on 04 September, 2014, 11:45:24 pm
What is that - a gaff ketch of some sort..
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Torslanda on 05 September, 2014, 12:54:30 am
I think it's an old Thames barge (I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong).

Huge red calico sail, the boards on either side of the hull were lowered to provide stability in open water e.g choppier sections of the estuary.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 05 September, 2014, 07:16:55 am
Yes, that's a  Thames barge. The lee boards provide lateral resistance. They have to be tacked, as in, it is the leeward one which has to be lowered and the windward one raised on each tack.

They race them on the East Coast. When racing downwind they have been known to lower the stern of the tender to catch just that little bit more wind.

See also Wiki. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_sailing_barge)

Den Phillips (http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/features/sails_sea_and_shutter_speeds_life_afloat_with_essex_photographer_den_phillips_1_1329974) records this activity with some fantastic photos. (Her regular website (http://www.denphillipsphotos.co.uk/) appears to be offline at the moment which is a bit of a shame.)

 
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 September, 2014, 08:18:51 am
Yes, that's a  Thames barge. The lee boards provide lateral resistance. They have to be tacked, as in, it is the leeward one which has to be lowered and the windward one raised on each tack.

They race them on the East Coast. When racing downwind they have been known to lower the stern of the tender to catch just that little bit more wind.

See also Wiki. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_sailing_barge)

Den Phillips (http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/features/sails_sea_and_shutter_speeds_life_afloat_with_essex_photographer_den_phillips_1_1329974) records this activity with some fantastic photos. (Her regular website (http://www.denphillipsphotos.co.uk/) appears to be offline at the moment which is a bit of a shame.)

^^^ Correct  :thumbsup:  The vessel pictured is a sprit sail rigged Thames barge.  The sprit is the wooden spar that goes diagonally from the bottom of the main mast to the top right-hand corner (as shown in the photo) of the  of the mainsail.  The rig allows the vessel to be sailed by a master, mate and perhaps a boy.  The idea is that the mainsail unfurls like a theatre curtain so can be easily furled up again.  Raising and lowering sails is one of the most labour intensive tasks on a boat so if you only have a small crew its important the task can be done easily.

The spar on the front of the barge is the bowsprit which normally is horizontal to carry some on the headsails.  It has been raised to the vertical position so it doesn't get in the way whilst the barge is moored.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 05 September, 2014, 09:45:43 am
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ such a knowledgeable chap ;)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 September, 2014, 10:05:18 am
My knowledge is theoretical as I've never actually sailed on one. But I hope to soon, I have a plan!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 05 September, 2014, 10:46:05 am
Yes, that's a  Thames barge. The lee boards provide lateral resistance. They have to be tacked, as in, it is the leeward one which has to be lowered and the windward one raised on each tack.

They race them on the East Coast. When racing downwind they have been known to lower the stern of the tender to catch just that little bit more wind.

See also Wiki. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_sailing_barge)

Den Phillips (http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/features/sails_sea_and_shutter_speeds_life_afloat_with_essex_photographer_den_phillips_1_1329974) records this activity with some fantastic photos. (Her regular website (http://www.denphillipsphotos.co.uk/) appears to be offline at the moment which is a bit of a shame.)

^^^ Correct  :thumbsup:  The vessel pictured is a sprit sail rigged Thames barge.  The sprit is the wooden spar that goes diagonally from the bottom of the main mast to the top right-hand corner (as shown in the photo) of the  of the mainsail.  The rig allows the vessel to be sailed by a master, mate and a boy.  The idea is that the mainsail unfurls like a theatre curtain so can be easily furled up again.  Raising and lowering sails is one of the most labour intensive tasks on a boat so if you only have a small crew its important the task can be done easily.

The spar on the front of the barge is the bowsprit which normally is horizontal to carry some on the headsails.  It has been raised to the vertical position so it doesn't get in the way whilst the barge is moored.
I think many (most?) were sailed two handed. Many years ago I spent hours clambering over and around the Cambria with my dad (ex-Merchant Navy). He joined in '45 and would likely have offloaded cargo to Thames barges in the Pool of London.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: nicknack on 05 September, 2014, 10:52:12 am
I think you'll find that the pics above are of Cambria.

<edit> Having viewed the blown up image now I see it's obvious. Doh!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 September, 2014, 10:53:54 am
Yes Hatler, from what I have read the boy was optional.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Dibdib on 05 September, 2014, 12:27:42 pm
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/kch64d0flzd3n0c/20140504%20Narwal.jpg?dl=0)

I didn't realise we had a boaty thread. Not sure why this made me think of you lot...  ::-)

(edit: no idea why dropbox appears to be misbehaving... it's blocked from work so I was trying to post from my phone. I'll fix it this afternoon when I get to a decent PC.)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 05 September, 2014, 01:49:20 pm
My knowledge is theoretical as I've never actually sailed on one. But I hope to soon, I have a plan!
I've been out for a day sail on one. The volume below decks is huge!

the sail can be depowered by raising the sprit - and with a big winch, that can be done by just one person. Better than our barge, where it takes hercules to even raise the sail, or two people on the winch.  Not that we ever sail it.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 September, 2014, 01:50:57 pm
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 05 September, 2014, 01:52:23 pm
My knowledge is theoretical as I've never actually sailed on one. But I hope to soon, I have a plan!
I've been out for a day sail on one. The volume below decks is huge!

the sail can be depowered by raising the sprit - and with a big winch, that can be done by just one person. Better than our barge, where it takes hercules to even raise the sail, or two people on the winch.  Not that we ever sail it.

Isn't there a way of brailing the mains'l up to depower it ?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 05 September, 2014, 02:47:44 pm
My knowledge is theoretical as I've never actually sailed on one. But I hope to soon, I have a plan!
I've been out for a day sail on one. The volume below decks is huge!

the sail can be depowered by raising the sprit - and with a big winch, that can be done by just one person. Better than our barge, where it takes hercules to even raise the sail, or two people on the winch.  Not that we ever sail it.
Isn't there a way of brailing the mains'l up to depower it ?

You can do that as well - but the sail is effectively in two sections. Raising the sprit 'flops' the section between sprit and mast. The section below the sprit can be pulled up to the sprit.

It looks awfully messy compared to a gaff or bermuda rig but allows for tuning of the sails very easily. With the little sail at the rear mast and the foresails the boat can be depowered and steered just with the sails. Leeboards allow you to tune the centre of turning to match the sail arrangement.

Humber Keels had something more like a 'viking square rig' and brailed the sails up to the yard, but the effect was similar in that only two people were needed to handle the boat.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 05 September, 2014, 07:07:09 pm
On my way home this evening.....
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5590/14962453289_1ec56d1e69_b.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5574/15148766822_433ed36a5f_b.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5577/15149165725_1950d4f550_b.jpg)

Apologies for the graininess of the first two - that's the iPhone maxing out on zoom (and I think I may've had the camera on one of its *creative* settings  ::-))
I think there's every chance I'll be pootling along the river at some point this weekend.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Andrij on 05 September, 2014, 09:15:52 pm
I had Totally Thames / tall ships intentions for this weekend, but for complicated reasons they've fallen through.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 06 September, 2014, 02:13:41 pm
Here are a few from this morning's riverside pootle.
I confess to having forgotten how attractive the riverside is when everyone else is still in bed.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3859/15155650325_5c28ff778b_b.jpg)

So this is what was tucked away behind Greenwich Waitrose...
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3864/14969080728_713e613e95_b.jpg)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3887/14968926439_130fd2e193_b.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5584/14968925139_d6acfa962e_b.jpg)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3912/14968926069_4d6f9cdefd_b.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5563/14968978340_a2cbd83de8_b.jpg)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3912/15132625256_9029a89508_b.jpg)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3883/14969081447_b64c2666eb_b.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5571/14969080828_90419143ef_b.jpg)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3849/14968925859_25145e1a06_b.jpg)

After which there followed a breakfast of mushrooms on toast. Nom!
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Post by: clarion on 06 September, 2014, 02:26:28 pm
Nice photos.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Dibdib on 07 September, 2014, 08:02:26 am
I didn't realise we had a boaty thread. Not sure why this made me think of you lot...  ::-)

(edit: no idea why dropbox appears to be misbehaving... it's blocked from work so I was trying to post from my phone. I'll fix it this afternoon when I get to a decent PC.)

let's try this one again...

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23853117/YACF/20140504%20Narwal.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: nicknack on 07 September, 2014, 11:04:41 am

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3912/14968926069_4d6f9cdefd_b.jpg)


Ah! Saw this one in the estuary through the mist a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 07 September, 2014, 11:20:59 am
I'm guessing if it was misty it wouldn't have been particularly windy - so presumably not under the power of sail?
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Post by: nicknack on 07 September, 2014, 04:03:04 pm
No. Just sat there. I think it was anchored at the time.
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Post by: Torslanda on 07 September, 2014, 05:04:59 pm
My knowledge is theoretical as I've never actually sailed on one. But I hope to soon, I have a CUNNING plan!

ITYM  O:-)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: nicknack on 16 September, 2014, 11:21:56 pm
On the jolly old Medway today:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/nicknacknick/IMG_4132_zps3452a4fd.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/nicknacknick/media/IMG_4132_zps3452a4fd.jpg.html)
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Post by: hatler on 16 September, 2014, 11:27:53 pm
Is that the replica of the Russian ship ?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: nicknack on 16 September, 2014, 11:35:53 pm
It's this (http://www.shtandart.com/), if that's what you mean.
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Post by: hatler on 17 September, 2014, 08:33:51 am
That's the fellow, thank you. My father had a sail on her.
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Post by: nicknack on 17 September, 2014, 09:05:03 am
Lucky chap. It's a fine looking boaty type thing.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 17 September, 2014, 09:30:10 am
He was their liaison officer (I think that's how it was termed) when the Tall Ships were in Portsmouth a few years ago. As ex-Merchant Marine he was pretty chuffed about that.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Salvatore on 22 September, 2014, 08:55:17 pm
Cruising silently and sedately on the Basingstoke canal this morning. Two surfboards, some decking, a couple of benches and a blanket for comfort, and powered by a car battery.

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h323/nocensure/IMG_2010_zps2a22c783.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/nocensure/media/IMG_2010_zps2a22c783.jpg.html)
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Post by: David Martin on 22 September, 2014, 09:03:49 pm
That is very WJ and rather smart. A modern version of the punt.
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Post by: sg37409 on 23 September, 2014, 08:43:07 am
Thats very cool
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Vince on 30 September, 2014, 11:31:07 am
This passed the office this morning.

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t140/VinceHall/CyclingStuff/20140930_1154421_zpsf652785f.jpg)

Couldn't fit it into one picture..

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t140/VinceHall/CyclingStuff/20140930_1157241_zps47f4df60.jpg)

Oasis of the Seas. At one time the biggest passenger ship. Her sister ship is 2" longer, though this may be a measuring error due to temperature differences.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 September, 2014, 11:35:42 am
Those things terrify me. I look at them and my mind says "No way is that thing stable in a swell".

If the dynamic stabilizers failed, I reckon they'd last minutes in serious storm.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 02 October, 2014, 05:14:13 pm
Those things terrify me. I look at them and my mind says "No way is that thing stable in a swell".

If the dynamic stabilizers failed, I reckon they'd last minutes in serious storm.

And also bear in mind there are thousands of souls onboard.  I don't understand how you can get that many people off and into lifeboats quickly.  Could be Titanic all over again  :'(
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: The French Tandem on 02 October, 2014, 07:25:04 pm
I don't understand how you can get that many people off and into lifeboats quickly.  Could be Titanic all over again  :'(

You can NOT get that many people off!! Remember what happened to the Costa Concordia. 32 passengers died while the ship was sinking only a few dozen meters from the shore.  I cannot even imagine what would happen if a similar event took place far from the shore...
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 October, 2014, 04:06:44 pm
I don't understand how you can get that many people off and into lifeboats quickly.  Could be Titanic all over again  :'(

You can NOT get that many people off!! Remember what happened to the Costa Concordia. 32 passengers died while the ship was sinking only a few dozen meters from the shore.  I cannot even imagine what would happen if a similar event took place far from the shore...
Sadly, you don't need to imagine http://www.theguardian.com/world/south-korea-ferry-disaster (http://www.theguardian.com/world/south-korea-ferry-disaster)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 02 November, 2014, 09:47:07 am
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/IMAG0071_zps137fb84a.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/IMAG0071_zps137fb84a.jpg.html)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/IMAG0072_zps1808a507.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/IMAG0072_zps1808a507.jpg.html)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/IMAG0070_zpsfc7aae4b.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/IMAG0070_zpsfc7aae4b.jpg.html)

spotted in Dunkirk harbour area, opposite the museum.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mcshroom on 02 November, 2014, 12:35:30 pm
That middle one looks like the old Sandettie Light Vessel (Automatic) from the shipping forecast - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandettie_Light_Vessel_Automatic
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: scott on 23 November, 2014, 03:58:16 am

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5149/13918023686_d52946a35c_b.jpg)
The "Freda B," a gaff-topsail schooner (so they said) used for tours and charters on San Francisco Bay, in the Golden Gate
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 23 November, 2014, 03:44:51 pm
MS Lofoten, the darling of the Hurtugriten fleet that runs up and down the Norwegian coast, turned 50 this year and still going strong.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dKF5IaEg42o/VHH7enlnBMI/AAAAAAAAG6M/dwAfscIjjv8/s720/P2530048.jpg)

Interesting and unusual to me, especially, cos I'm aboard at the moment :)  And it's great.  They are working ferries, so the locals use them and they carry cargo (and, in the past, the post).  This one's the only one that doesn't carry cars, and all the cargo is loaded by crane.  It's like a slightly posher CalMac ferry with cabins...

We left Bergen late last night, had what the captain claimed was a very smooth overnight passage (well he would say that, wouldn't he), and have just spent a rather wet and rainy 3 hr break in Ålesund.  Now winding our way generally northwards through various fjords and channels and sunds, towards the reported cold and snow.  All 53 of us, on a ship with a carrying capacity of 350, so it's wonderfully peaceful and uncrowded.  Nordkapp here we come!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: David Martin on 23 November, 2014, 04:02:35 pm
Superb. I may well have been on that boat - in 1976 as a very young notyetdrme.

Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 23 November, 2014, 05:49:27 pm

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5149/13918023686_d52946a35c_b.jpg)
The "Freda B," a gaff-topsail schooner (so they said) used for tours and charters on San Francisco Bay, in the Golden Gate
Very pretty.

Schooner. Check.
Gaff. Check.

I don't see a yard which would enable her to set a topsail though.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 23 November, 2014, 05:52:19 pm
I got that wrong. I was thinking that a topsail could only ever be a squaresail. A topsail is also the triangular sail that is set above the gaff.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 23 November, 2014, 06:43:59 pm
I got that wrong. I was thinking that a topsail could only ever be a squaresail. A topsail is also the triangular sail that is set above the gaff.

Correct. My guess is a topsail only gets set on the rear mast.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 November, 2014, 01:57:49 pm
It's unlikely but possible it will take a square topsail. The upper part of the rear mast might be lowerable independent of other rigging. Rig yrd for topsail on mast, hoist back up and off you go.

Bloody hard work tho.

I had to hoist up the bowsprit on our (sadly rotting) boat two weeks ago and it half-killed me.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 24 November, 2014, 02:08:39 pm
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xAiTHMbUExE/VHMuMQ6jaCI/AAAAAAAAG7g/3Z-qa0zgXNU/s640/P2530192.jpg)

Woke up this morning to find another Hurtigruten ship, MS Nordkapp, at 11,000 tonnes, dwarfing my svelte little Lofoten (2,600).  This one's southbound - ships that cross in the night, eh? - and was around for long enough for the Lofoten ruffians to be allowed on board to see how the other half live:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c-QfoXarcaU/VHMuKwlccjI/AAAAAAAAG7I/mEQ2Ue69tfU/s640/P2530180.jpg)
The panoramic lounge

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U-xeDt7iMJs/VHMuMBU-d4I/AAAAAAAAG7Y/Ofxq1pAxOA0/s576/P2530181.jpg)
Staircase for them as choose not to use one of the lifts.  Lift?!

For comparison, here's our all-purpose meeting point/reception/ticket office:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yweIcxwrZCM/VHMvgc_geMI/AAAAAAAAG8s/icXdEFrNHqw/s512/P2530264.jpg)

And taking cargo on board this morning brings a new meaning to loading a skip:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-VPcDMYDdG8s/VHMv6zxBzCI/AAAAAAAAG80/A078biRxkA8/s640/P2530268.jpg)

I know which I prefer...
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: clarion on 24 November, 2014, 02:27:53 pm
Slumming it.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 25 November, 2014, 03:35:13 pm
Well, I suppose she's not so bad...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-kWqHbn8wqXY/VHSSWC_43mI/AAAAAAAAG9k/vgXmFcT7UFE/s576/P2530433.jpg)

We lost our speedboat late on last night (see, more boat content) in Rørvik
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1fTVbsMQ1n0/VHSSQqPcoLI/AAAAAAAAG9U/XH---dj60Zg/s512/P2530290.jpg)

and today we are been mostly carrying christmas trees :)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ve7hgtiQxrk/VHSSWE1OGDI/AAAAAAAAG9g/zDSsfksSoYk/s640/P2530319.jpg)

Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 25 November, 2014, 03:51:35 pm
More pics here (https://picasaweb.google.com/drwhrobertson/StuffFromNorway2014?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCPSJ_4ymoNycKg&feat=directlink) btw,which I'll try to keep updating rather than head way off topic in this thread.  Boaty type stuff, however, I regard as fair game  ;)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4xnszXNilJY/VHSYiBzd-2I/AAAAAAAAG-o/HoHKUNZsTMs/s720/P2530424.jpg)
Docked in Bodø this afternoon
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 25 November, 2014, 05:30:50 pm
More pics here (https://picasaweb.google.com/drwhrobertson/StuffFromNorway2014?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCPSJ_4ymoNycKg&feat=directlink) btw,which I'll try to keep updating rather than head way off topic in this thread.
Some nice photos there, Bill. But that island - sure, it's bare, bleak, grim even - but I wouldn't call it fugly!  :D
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 25 November, 2014, 09:31:42 pm
 ;D  Lofoten's in Lofoten tonight - MS Lofoten docked in Svolvaer, capital of the Lofoten Islands; fish-drying racks on the left.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--htE1PbPr0M/VHTz4IBxbHI/AAAAAAAAHBU/eaZIulrrRkc/s720/P2530457.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 25 November, 2014, 09:47:11 pm
Ace BPT.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: scott on 26 November, 2014, 04:30:16 am
I'm becoming very jealous of your trip, Mr. Plumtree
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 26 November, 2014, 09:38:42 am
I'm becoming very jealous of your trip, Mr. Plumtree

This.  My former in-laws have done it in the summer and were going to repeat it in winter at the start of this year but had to pull out due to one or other of them not being well.  Perhaps I should point them at this thread :demon:
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 26 November, 2014, 05:48:16 pm
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-krGxeuFLvto/VHYORkJikQI/AAAAAAAAHB8/dBv6ClJgUKU/s800/P2530473.jpg)

Leaving behind another of the bigger Hutrigrutes, MS Richard With, in Harstad this morning.  Taken at about 8am - the blue hour lasted for most of the morning...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XPin4sAIOdU/VHYOTcjHeLI/AAAAAAAAHCU/2YB4NzLryLM/s640/P2530555.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jJdMX0gU4K4/VHYOStnz01I/AAAAAAAAHCY/n7-1k0gVggE/s720/P2530551.jpg)

Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: scott on 27 November, 2014, 03:54:26 am

Research vessels (my favorite kind of unusual boaty type things):

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8018/7463243794_bcceb7b5b2_b.jpg)
Oregon State University's R/V Elakha, outbound from Newport, OR

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7265/7469398902_b931378cb6_b.jpg)
NOAA's R/V McArthur II
"The ship conducts oceanographic research and assessments, throughout the eastern Pacific, including the U.S. West Coast, Central and South America. McArthur II is involved in studies in several of the National Marine Sanctuaries on the west coast of the United States. The 224-foot ship engages in measurements of chemical, meteorological, and biological sampling for several large scale programs within NOAA."

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5221/13926912715_fafbc15abe_b.jpg)
The Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute's R/V, um, Whatsername, Moss Landing Harbor, CA

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7213/13900849696_c90149e68a_b.jpg)
R/V John H. Martin & R/V Sheila B., Moss Landing Harbor, CA
These research vessels belong to Moss Landing Marine Laboratories, which "administers the Master of Science in marine science program for California State Universities in northern and central California."
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 27 November, 2014, 04:34:25 pm
The ship's Garmin this morning told us were above 71°N:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ROXbrwS0178/VHdLKwtj_RI/AAAAAAAAHEY/28dVTx4pmqI/s640/P2530610.jpg)

All thanks to our new, and equally esteemed, captain Eivind Lande (who I suspect of also being Norwegian),
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Clv_0y-LGnQ/VHdLMs3uK3I/AAAAAAAAHEw/QI2s1BXrKSc/s512/P2530663.jpg)

This was how the not-sunrise looked at about 10am,
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n7c0S0zHb0w/VHdLK1A032I/AAAAAAAAHEc/0H0SOozungA/s640/P2530657.jpg)

and it continued to look much like that until the not-sunset at around 2pm.  This was shortly before noon:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ew5OMPHd-yU/VHdLMZYH9iI/AAAAAAAAHEs/-a38dLEXfmc/s720/P2530689.jpg)

This bit was rather special:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zPlSo6XrKNg/VHdLMgE_CiI/AAAAAAAAHE0/nGK8uFApgpQ/s800/P2530720.jpg)
Moonrise at the North Cape, 1pm.

A few more here (https://picasaweb.google.com/drwhrobertson/StuffFromNorway2014?authuser=0&feat=directlink), including the Action Man and Barbie recreations of the time the King of Sweden came to the Nordkapp...
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 28 November, 2014, 08:32:49 am
If I had the time to sail it and some spare cash, actually the time would be the harder to find than the cash, I'd have one of these built. (http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/wooden-sailboat-kits/clc-faering-cruiser.html)  I think it's a beautiful boat, with a very clever design and would be perfect for exploring the east coast and Thames Estuary.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 28 November, 2014, 09:23:44 am
In which case,  this (http://creeksailor.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/normal-0-false-false-false-en-gb-x-none.html) might be of interest.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 28 November, 2014, 09:26:23 am
Or even this. (http://shoal-waters.moonfruit.com/)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 28 November, 2014, 09:28:09 am
If I had the time to sail it and some spare cash, actually the time would be the harder to find than the cash, I'd have one of these built. (http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/wooden-sailboat-kits/clc-faering-cruiser.html)  I think it's a beautiful boat, with a very clever design and would be perfect for exploring the east coast and Thames Estuary.
Hmm - I'd prefer something either much lighter or bigger, like a cornish shrimper.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Vince on 28 November, 2014, 10:28:17 am
If I had the time to sail it and some spare cash, actually the time would be the harder to find than the cash, I'd have one of these built. (http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/wooden-sailboat-kits/clc-faering-cruiser.html)  I think it's a beautiful boat, with a very clever design and would be perfect for exploring the east coast and Thames Estuary.
Hmm - I'd prefer something either much lighter or bigger, like a cornish shrimper.

It would be nice for inland waters, but I would like a bit more freeboard  for coastal sailing. I note there is no RCD specified for the design.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 28 November, 2014, 11:17:22 am
I often see rather interesting  vessels in Great Yarmouth harbour and the River Yare. They primarily support the construction and maintenance of offshore wind farms. The jack-up rigs and various support vessels are remarkably effective, manoeuvrable (and ugly). Unfortunately, my job prevents me posting pictures.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 28 November, 2014, 04:45:57 pm
Ah, but do they carry christmas trees?  Ours were unloaded in the night, to save xm*s for some barren treeless north Norway port, and replaced by a cherry-picker crane.  Which was in turn unloaded in Kirkenes:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-EXstMigTa8c/VHieTA7N56I/AAAAAAAAHHc/Ax2pmcvGBT0/s720/P2530779.jpg)

Kirkenes, being only 5 miles from the Russian border, had a few interesting boaty type things, like

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PKKnYihn28o/VHieVE4L6xI/AAAAAAAAHHw/FYUpdyfXh5w/s800/P2530801.jpg)
a bunch of Russian trawlers, and

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--wOmQ50PVQ0/VHieYmJk1oI/AAAAAAAAHIc/tyRfBONFlN0/s720/P2530820.jpg)
the Geo Arctic, a research/survey ship.

I've added a few more pics, less boaty for those who are that way inclined, to the previous ones here (https://picasaweb.google.com/drwhrobertson/StuffFromNorway2014?authuser=0&feat=directlink)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 28 November, 2014, 05:10:10 pm
Or even this. (http://shoal-waters.moonfruit.com/)

Yes, read his book too.  And I've read Charles Stock's book as well.

If I had the time to sail it and some spare cash, actually the time would be the harder to find than the cash, I'd have one of these built. (http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/wooden-sailboat-kits/clc-faering-cruiser.html)  I think it's a beautiful boat, with a very clever design and would be perfect for exploring the east coast and Thames Estuary.
Hmm - I'd prefer something either much lighter or bigger, like a Cornish shrimper.

I'd happily own and sail a Shrimper plus any other boaty type objects of it's ilk.  I've also had a hankering for a Drascombe Longboat Cruiser.  It's a time thing really; I don't have the time to sail and cycle (having to work for a living is such a pain  >:(  )

What I like about the Faering is you can row it as well as sail it.  Rowing is something I'd like to try.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 29 November, 2014, 04:21:14 pm
Boaty-type things seen today:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZvSE3OuwJDc/VHnolGzUofI/AAAAAAAAHL4/Y8BvVxZggq4/s800/P2530890.jpg)
MS Nordlys leaving Havøysund at 9am, having blocked the only berth for ages and kept us from unloading this morning. Ha!- who's the old-fashioned inefficient one, again?

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J-Di4NIMFVw/VHnop-zcaaI/AAAAAAAAHM8/l-SgGIgC5Mc/s800/P2530976.jpg)
Other-worldly LNG carrier off the Hammerfest LNG terminal this afternoon.

And some details from Lofoten, having had a tour of the bridge today:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-X4kxB5A2Tyk/VHnomAwYn9I/AAAAAAAAHME/OmWzG--BYCk/s640/P2530923.jpg)
The original 1964 telegraph to the engine room, actually still in use. But they do have other systems too - a disappointing little black lever is the main speed control.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OiYHzlFbMuM/VHnooIIZ1hI/AAAAAAAAHMg/ZU_a0oulKdQ/s640/P2530927.jpg)
Wonderful mix of modern and old.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-J3tzGLo8w_8/VHnonaEdnaI/AAAAAAAAHMU/MUXc9FjHmfE/s512/P2530924.jpg)
I know, I know, the horizon's not level.  There is a good reason for that, you know...  And it was a damn sight less level than that in last night's force 7 and 5m waves!  The contents of my desk scattered themselves all over the floor at 4am, and the contents of my bed were close to doing the same.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 29 November, 2014, 09:37:39 pm
If Quentin Tarantino ever decides to make Kill Bill Vol. 3 there'll be a queue to play any assassin.

Some great pictures there.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 30 November, 2014, 05:31:04 pm
 :-*

OK, so today we are mostly carrying, apart from what's hidden on pallets in the hold (up to 180 of em at a time, all loaded one at a time by crane - no wonder we get a bit late sometimes), rope and frozen fish.  The fish are kept on deck (it's not like it's going to thaw, is it?), ever since the infamous fishy water leaking from the hold into the cabins incident that resulted in the whole ship being evacuated.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iDtI8Egc8ik/VHtLC3dfRCI/AAAAAAAAHQ0/yQyyMb2T_1w/s512/P2540095.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qqBoiqnNYD0/VHtK_XgdEHI/AAAAAAAAHQM/6HrEpYWRhLY/s512/P2540100.jpg)
Looking for fish...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1__tc-oCDzk/VHtLI06R6PI/AAAAAAAAHRw/OaXPRlbDVmk/s512/P2540339.jpg)
Now that's what I call a museum. MS Finnmarken, propped up on dry land, with a roof put on her, was once the Hurtigruten flagship and is now (most of) the Hurtigruten museum in Stokmarknes.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dsMwyx5USwE/VHtLJ1QIj9I/AAAAAAAAHR4/2g5ud6fxqps/s640/P2540347.jpg)
The cabins have changed a bit...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MzxP_gdK9xQ/VHtLKmU0i9I/AAAAAAAAHSE/oAVw8Py310M/s640/P2540348.jpg)
...I suppose.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-J3EgRh6FsjE/VHtLLkHWo2I/AAAAAAAAHSQ/7WNWJfHWpy8/s576/P2540358.jpg)
The 1st class smoking lounge

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_UZ-y_aGTHs/VHtLK6yRgDI/AAAAAAAAHSM/Dd6LAZKl-x0/s512/P2540355.jpg)
"11 days that will last a lifetime". Yeah, I can see that.

More, as usual, at the bottom of the becoming-very-long-and-unwieldy album here (https://picasaweb.google.com/drwhrobertson/StuffFromNorway2014?authuser=0&feat=directlink).
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 30 November, 2014, 05:35:03 pm
Lovin' the pics Billplumtree.  :thumbsup:
Would love to know your itinerary, through whom you organised your trip, cost etc.
Insanely envious.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 01 December, 2014, 09:21:15 pm
Would love to know your itinerary, through whom you organised your trip, cost etc.
Will try to find time to fill in some of the details tomorrow, seeing as the weather forecast is for grey and bumpy.

Today was grey, if not bumpy, and no especially interesting ports of call, so a bit quiet.  Quiet cargo-wise an'all - heading north, there's all sorts of stuff being shipped from the populous industrial south to the rural north, whereas heading south, generally speaking, it's fish...

So, they took our two boxes of fish off at some point,
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7mJMR77M7vw/VHyXL2V1iSI/AAAAAAAAHU0/ITFcbofXMmM/s512/P2540520.jpg)

and took on
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7x-I_Hllxb0/VHyXMRUvoMI/AAAAAAAAHU4/Jk5G-FP8KuI/s512/P2540521.jpg)

four boxes of fish.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-536Oe607In4/VHyXM2V0CNI/AAAAAAAAHVE/D3-Cvec_8XM/s576/P2540525.jpg)

Later on, we got dwarfed again, this time by the Hurtigrute MS Richard With:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P9bJNJkI7u4/VHzU7TGH4QI/AAAAAAAAHWo/AexxBKBMJ1A/s576/P2540540.jpg)
(that's Lofoten on the left, wearing her new xm*s lights.  Pretty, eh?)

A quick tour convinced me I chose the right ship for me (Jurek, do your research on this!):

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-coKLpJdUFwc/VHzU89ZRPjI/AAAAAAAAHW0/JgZbls32ZqQ/s512/P2540545.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-K0i1zLC-Qqo/VHzU9PQPIXI/AAAAAAAAHXA/tZY_4TKSd6E/s640/P2540552.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-iqJa76WF270/VHzU-jgRQFI/AAAAAAAAHXQ/ONIK7HXZAF8/s576/P2540556.jpg)

And off she sailed into the night, heading northwards to ice and snow and darkness and northern lights...
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9Yez_av0jXg/VHzU-o-nfVI/AAAAAAAAHXM/XBYES_IsRkk/s720/P2540571.jpg)

Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 02 December, 2014, 12:07:19 pm
Today, the penultimate day of the trip, we woke up in Trondheim (again), and loaded...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-UxrMQKzK21o/VH2kfUfBCMI/AAAAAAAAHYU/_b_qBFDWdW4/s512/P2540598.jpg)

chain...
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yw-zqUM5O-g/VH2keO40g-I/AAAAAAAAHYA/21GR7TpPyzc/s512/P2540576.jpg)

...wheelie bins, tyres (studded, of course), fish (of course), and assorted stuff wrapped in plastic.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HohbRd0vJtk/VH2keWVSXEI/AAAAAAAAHYE/uYYURr5DxQQ/s640/P2540585.jpg)

And then we (the nerds that wanted one) got a tour of the engine room  8)  "Don't touch the tappy bits on the top", the chief engineer warned us.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dz2T1It663s/VH2kfk15EeI/AAAAAAAAHYc/8t4hLlF3pXk/s720/P2540600.jpg)
The main engine, the 50-year old, 300,000 hours service, original. 3,500 hp, 1m stroke, runs at a constant speed of 190 rpm (ok, 200 in an emergency).  And has tappy bits on top  ;D  Connected directly to the single variable-pitch propellor.  No bow props or thrusters or any of that fancy stuff: just a propellor and a rudder, and artful turning on the anchor in port by the captain.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RZDEeWdcBi0/VH2kgCF5VNI/AAAAAAAAHYk/oEaqfSo4tyY/s640/P2540603.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HYM9HTo9_e8/VH2khXbigrI/AAAAAAAAHY8/peridYfUbmU/s640/P2540607.jpg)
The business end of the telegraph.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bSsP8TNZdug/VH2khwC30jI/AAAAAAAAHZE/0GZioGQcmO8/s800/P2540610.jpg)
Auxiliary engines for everything else apart from propulsion. The two grey ones are the original ones, now backups to the single, modern (relatively), green one.  Note the compulsory oily red rag.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wbIQFtsIhvs/VH2kiDTpMTI/AAAAAAAAHZI/b4DmGz3t1Ls/s720/P2540611.jpg)
Er, a lever and some dials.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Vince on 02 December, 2014, 01:17:17 pm
Interesting way of adding home comforts to the helming position on this ketch.

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t140/VinceHall/CyclingStuff/20141202_135228_zpsczpdrwza.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 03 December, 2014, 11:10:32 am
Last day today  :'(

And today we are carrying,

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-HzaXZpcKAoM/VH7r_FqB55I/AAAAAAAAHd0/bfMxZM4BYks/s512/P2540676.jpg)
hardly anything.  Just a few sheets of zinc steel mesh, plus whatever's on pallets in the hold. But no fish.

We're a couple of hours late, cos the weather is mostly doing this:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Rfi03HpRRg0/VH7r-9IAbpI/AAAAAAAAHdw/ovN3T6TGWlE/s640/P2540680.jpg)

- we had another desk-clearing force 7 last night.  There was an almighty crash from the kitchen at one point, followed by some interesting-sounding and emphatically exclaimed Norwegian words which I couldn't find in the dictionary.

So, instead of scenery, here's a cheery pic of the interesting and unusual boaty dining room:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AFP1829WjBw/VH7sAKwFo1I/AAAAAAAAHd8/yOTMag2XBDs/s640/P2540672.jpg)

Bergen this afternoon, and then it's all over and I'll have to come home in one of those infernal, uncivilised jet airliner machines.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 December, 2014, 11:41:20 am
Thank you for your fascinating photos and words. It's especially wonderful to see the mix of passengers and odd cargo. I feel a great need to tour the coast of Norway.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wbIQFtsIhvs/VH2kiDTpMTI/AAAAAAAAHZI/b4DmGz3t1Ls/s720/P2540611.jpg)
Er, a lever and some dials.
Drift?!!! I guess it doesn't mean quite the same in Norwegian.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 03 December, 2014, 07:13:00 pm
Thanks Cudz.  Final two from this afternoon to finish off:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4pKrSf4FtNU/VH9e8BAQdYI/AAAAAAAAHeo/2h4zqq_iMJU/s640/P2540695.jpg)
When they said the ship was listed, I thought they meant for its features of historical interest...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9TxLnDEdW_w/VH9e9txJ31I/AAAAAAAAHew/8CGCCSQmDvY/s800/P2540700.jpg)
Berthed back in Bergen.
The end.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Riggers on 05 December, 2014, 12:56:37 pm
Very nice Mr Bumtree. Now you can have a drool over a book I have at work, with oodles of craft. You have to ask yourself … "Where are they now!"

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/ShipsCover_zps40190169.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/ShipsCover_zps40190169.jpg.html)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/ShipIFC_zps40453820.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/ShipIFC_zps40453820.jpg.html)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/Ship6_zps503b22f6.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/Ship6_zps503b22f6.jpg.html)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/Ship3_zpse81a01c8.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/Ship3_zpse81a01c8.jpg.html)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/Ship4_zps88363103.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/Ship4_zps88363103.jpg.html)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/Ship2_zps3286a244.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/Ship2_zps3286a244.jpg.html)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/Ship1_zps5e766d32.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/Ship1_zps5e766d32.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: scott on 05 December, 2014, 04:07:47 pm
Nice book, but stop posting your galleass.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Riggers on 05 December, 2014, 04:22:11 pm
Ha ha. And on the opposite page we have the Brighton 'Hoggie'. Don't think we have any more of these lovely looking chaps on the water.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Riggers on 08 December, 2014, 02:15:18 pm
Ride yesterday went past Shoreham Dock:

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/Shoreham3_zps4085e889.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/Shoreham3_zps4085e889.jpg.html)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/Shoreham1_zpsdab2ef09.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/Shoreham1_zpsdab2ef09.jpg.html)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/Shoreham2_zps7cb21d89.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/Shoreham2_zps7cb21d89.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 10 December, 2014, 02:46:02 pm
Would love to know your itinerary, through whom you organised your trip, cost etc.
Sorry Jurek, been busy sorting through a bazillion photos...

All done through Hurtigruten on the web.  There's loads of stuff on their web site (http://www.hurtigruten.com/uk/norway-voyages/), though not always easy to find.  In fact, while the boaty bit was, as you would hope, well-run and efficient, the admin side seemed a bit more hit-and-miss.  I warned them, when I booked, that I'm a nut-allergic vegetarian;  when I arrived on board they'd had no notification of this, nor were they expecting the other half-dozen veggies.  Chef just shrugged, got on with it, and we were fed wonderfully well for the whole trip.

Itinerary depends when you go.  Here (http://www.hurtigruten.com/uk/norway-voyages/Winter/Voyages/classic-winter-voyages/#itinerary)'s mine, for instance.  Excursions, such as sledging with huskies, are extra.  I didn't bother mostly, and was happy just wandering around the various ports we stopped at (sometimes for half an hour or less, other times for 3 hours in the bigger places like Trondheim, Tromsø).  This time of year though, is the quiet time - we had 53 passengers at most, and at times had fewer passengers than the 41 crew - which is great for prices but means a lot, like most, of the excursions get cancelled for lack of numbers.  So, if that's what floats your boat, go when it's busier.

I did the full round trip, Bergen - Kirkenes - Bergen.  Quite a few just did the Bergen - Kirkenes bit, and all the ones I spoke to regretted not choosing the full journey!  For me, booking fairly late, it was a no-brainer:  taking the inducements such as full board, free Nordkapp trip into account, it was actually cheaper to do the whole trip than a shorter one.  This time of year, they really are desperate to get as many paying punters on board as they can...

So pricewise, now is about the cheapest time to go, it's merely expensive rather than eye-watering.  Bear in mind, it /is/ Norway, full board, and a 2500km round trip though...  Look out for single supplement waiver offers too, if you're going on your own, otherwise it's just ridiculous.  You can book the whole thing, including flights and airport transfers, through Hurtigruten, but it just adds even more to the cost; I booked my own flights and had no trouble catching the Flybussen into Bergen, and saved a couple of hundred quid. 

Pricing is very much based on demand.  If you go to www.hurtigruten.com/uk/norway-voyages/Winter/Voyages/classic-winter-voyages/ and use the Search button on the top right (took me ages to find this), it takes you to a live monthly pricing grid, listing ship and price for each day.

Choice of ship is possibly the most important decision to make; it's certainly at least second, after when to go.  I loved the Lofoten, 50 years old, down to earth, cosy, characterful, you always knew you were on a boat ;-)  Others are bigger, more comfortable, stable, air-conditioned; had their own hydraulically-lowered gangways rather than one delivered on a forklift truck, that kind of thing.  YMMV, obv.  There's a different one leaves Bergen each day, on a 12-day cycle, so you can juggle ship and day choice to suit you.

There's a very readable blog (http://patandpaulharvey.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/12-days-with-hurtigruten-day-0.html) of a trip on the Lofoten a couple of years ago with loads of information in it which might be of interest.  And feel free to PM me for any more information.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 11 December, 2014, 07:45:46 am
Thanks for that Billplumtree - something I'll doubtless look into this weekend.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: David Martin on 11 December, 2014, 07:17:56 pm
Thank you for your fascinating photos and words. It's especially wonderful to see the mix of passengers and odd cargo. I feel a great need to tour the coast of Norway.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wbIQFtsIhvs/VH2kiDTpMTI/AAAAAAAAHZI/b4DmGz3t1Ls/s720/P2540611.jpg)
Er, a lever and some dials.
Drift?!!! I guess it doesn't mean quite the same in Norwegian.
No. It can mean many things but in this case means power or drive. Start and Stopp mean what you think. On the telegraph, Sakte == softly and Ganske Sakte means quite softly or extremely softly, so slow and dead slow being the English.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Biff on 13 December, 2014, 11:43:30 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3ZI4CWIUAAyoHO.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 15 December, 2014, 10:35:16 am
 :o How does that thing manoeuvre in a crosswind?

The scale of nautical things is amazing.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 15 December, 2014, 11:03:58 am
And how do they load the barges?  Does the whole thing sink and the barges float on?  But then how do the barges get stacked?  It's an amazing vessel.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Vince on 15 December, 2014, 11:19:43 am
It is a semi-submersible barge, so would be able to sink allowing the preloaded barges to float into position. They would need to load the bottom most barge with their cargo of barges and they must have been close to sinking themselves unless they were loaded conventionally.

It has a bow thruster and a couple of retractable thrusters for manoeuvrability.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Blue_Marlin
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Post by: jsabine on 17 December, 2014, 04:25:13 pm
Crikey - load deck almost 600 feet long, big enough to carry a destroyer.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/MV_Blue_Marlin_carrying_USS_Cole.jpg)

Or an uncompleted helicopter carrier, whose bows were obviously hanging off the Marlin's stern.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/HMAS_Canberra_%28LHD_02%29_%2B_Blue_Martin.JPG)
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Post by: David Martin on 20 December, 2014, 10:52:56 pm
Crikey - load deck almost 600 feet long, big enough to carry a destroyer.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/MV_Blue_Marlin_carrying_USS_Cole.jpg)


At first I thought that was the HMS whatever which got a bit stranded in Aus, but it is a US boat instead.
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Post by: jsabine on 23 December, 2014, 01:46:57 am
Indeed, the USS Cole, complete with hole in the side courtesy of Al Quaeda.
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Post by: Wombat on 23 December, 2014, 09:16:51 am
Yup, HMS Newcastle hit a rock, so the damage was more around the bow area, unlike this poor thing what got attacked by malicious persons.
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Post by: David Martin on 23 December, 2014, 10:46:57 am
And to the career of the officer in charge..
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Post by: Wombat on 23 December, 2014, 12:14:04 pm
Er, yes, they don't like their officers driving into static things that have been there for a while.  One of Mrs W's customers had a similar issue having collided with a bit of the middle east.  One customer down, as they got posted somewhere obscure, (presumably not driving a ship) shortly after the court martial.  She wondered why they had suddenly moved, until we read about it.
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Post by: Pingu on 07 January, 2015, 10:13:48 am
This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Pentalina) has just arrived in the harbour here. It looks rather more rusty than in the (not my) picture.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Pentalina.jpg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Pentalina)
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Post by: Mr Larrington on 02 March, 2015, 06:07:14 pm
No photo alas but I'm curious to know what a full-on RNLI self-righting lifeboat was doing on the River Lea this morning.  Just downstream from the Princess of Wales /Lea Bridge ???
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Post by: Andrij on 02 March, 2015, 06:08:54 pm
No photo alas but I'm curious to know what a full-on RNLI self-righting lifeboat was doing on the River Lea this morning.  Just downstream from the Princess of Wales /Lea Bridge ???

Stopping in for a pint.  Or directions to the sea.  Or stopping in for directions and a pint.  ;D
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Post by: Jurek on 04 March, 2015, 01:39:13 pm
No photo alas but I'm curious to know what a full-on RNLI self-righting lifeboat was doing on the River Lea this morning.  Just downstream from the Princess of Wales /Lea Bridge ???

Orange in colour?
I've seen that parked up there a few times.
It did occur to me that it could be my great frend Don, who bought Lynmouth's lifeboat when it was de-comissioned a few years ago, and converted it into his home. Last I heard from Don, he was moored up somewhere on the Grand Union near Watford.
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Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 04 March, 2015, 03:37:12 pm
Currently there is a converted lifeboat/ houseboat moored outside my work in Kingston upon Thames.
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Post by: Mr Larrington on 04 March, 2015, 04:15:43 pm
No photo alas but I'm curious to know what a full-on RNLI self-righting lifeboat was doing on the River Lea this morning.  Just downstream from the Princess of Wales /Lea Bridge ???

Orange in colour?
I've seen that parked up there a few times.
It did occur to me that it could be my great frend Don, who bought Lynmouth's lifeboat when it was de-comissioned a few years ago, and converted it into his home. Last I heard from Don, he was moored up somewhere on the Grand Union near Watford.

Yes, very very orange.  More orange than the whole of interzen's fleet put together.  It appeared to be in mid-park, but I was driving over the bridge and thus only saw it briefly.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 06 March, 2015, 03:29:27 pm
No photo alas but I'm curious to know what a full-on RNLI self-righting lifeboat was doing on the River Lea this morning.  Just downstream from the Princess of Wales /Lea Bridge ???

Orange in colour?
I've seen that parked up there a few times.
It did occur to me that it could be my great frend Don, who bought Lynmouth's lifeboat when it was de-comissioned a few years ago, and converted it into his home. Last I heard from Don, he was moored up somewhere on the Grand Union near Watford.

Yes, very very orange.  More orange than the whole of interzen's fleet put together.  It appeared to be in mid-park, but I was driving over the bridge and thus only saw it briefly.
Its still there, just a little further downstream, parked up next to Middlesex Filter Beds Nature Reserve.
I saw it this morning.
It has definitely been tangoed.
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 March, 2015, 10:09:23 pm
Not a black hull?

If it doesn't have a black hull, then it might be an ex-gas rig escape vessel. Quite a few have been converted to canal boats.
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Post by: matthew on 08 March, 2015, 07:54:37 pm
Not a black hull?

If it doesn't have a black hull, then it might be an ex-gas rig escape vessel. Quite a few have been converted to canal boats.

Saw one of those on the Kennet yesterday a little west of Great Bedwyn. odd looking on flat waters.
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Post by: Riggers on 11 March, 2015, 01:27:26 pm
Has this been posted yet? The world's BIGGEST container ship (for now at least):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31813045
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Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 March, 2015, 03:03:19 pm
So that's what Oscar's Dad has been up to recently :D
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Post by: Oscar's dad on 11 March, 2015, 04:53:59 pm
So that's what Oscar's Dad has been up to recently :D

My finest achievement!
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Post by: Andrij on 20 June, 2015, 10:16:45 am
From yesterday's ride:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pds_e51DamQ/VYUuWt26xDI/AAAAAAAADDI/rG1RfZmRDo0/s800/20150619_125349.jpg)
On the Hertford-Union Canal where it meets the Lea.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dtarY4voqbU/VYUuMoUNg0I/AAAAAAAADC4/917zTZZlxus/s800/20150619_151159.jpg)
On the Lea at Leyton Marsh.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mqnqeJtQmAA/VYUuV-57H4I/AAAAAAAADDA/Dzmsrm8TAKk/s800/20150619_133227.jpg)
On the Lea, just south of the North Circular (A406).
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Post by: Jaded on 25 June, 2015, 12:47:29 am
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/tecla.jpg)
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 25 June, 2015, 09:36:13 am
I like that a lot. I've no idea what sort of boat it is, but it looks lovely.
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Post by: Vince on 25 June, 2015, 10:08:52 am
Gaff rigged ketch would describe the mast and sail layout, but it may have a local type name.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jaded on 25 June, 2015, 10:38:22 am
Quote
The Tecla was once build as herring drifter. A fishing vessel that would roam the North Sea for weeks on end to fill her hull with barrels of herring. The Tecla was build in 1915 as a ketch sailing ship, build without engine or other propulsion except her sails.

If it fulfilled its sailing diary, it has just been to St Kilda.
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Post by: Jaded on 27 June, 2015, 11:28:39 pm

(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/fair_lady_2015-06-27_.jpg)
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Post by: Andrij on 29 June, 2015, 07:55:42 pm
Loads of these things around London's waterways.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zrrDjZ66oE0/VZB1U2KYh_I/AAAAAAAADPY/OCtE-VYCVnY/s912/20150627_122553.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tkPb5WnK_Po/VZB3YO693hI/AAAAAAAADPY/ZAwYHiW2qco/s912/20150627_131537.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NIDZav0qj7I/VZB4MOZLMCI/AAAAAAAADPY/-SlZl0ifYhY/s912/20150627_133641.jpg)


Frankenboat (on the River Lea)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ORwKGjlNZSU/VZB4TQ2eT6I/AAAAAAAADPY/_md2IYcVsGk/s912/20150627_134216.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hAC46oOY1jg/VZB4fUMPK9I/AAAAAAAADPY/XuksmuOANAQ/s912/20150627_134242.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2RfBS7WKahY/VZB5_DW5s_I/AAAAAAAADPY/OLNuLUT2UfY/s912/20150627_143516.jpg)
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Post by: Mr Larrington on 30 June, 2015, 05:12:36 am
Now you've got me wondering about the fate of the two-narrowboats-joined-together "catamaran" I saw near Old Ford lock about ten years ago...
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Post by: Andrij on 15 August, 2015, 10:26:27 pm
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g1xU6ATBew4/Vc-Tvbwe1XI/AAAAAAAADsY/Mp1NDM1HfTA/s800-Ic42/DSC_0711.NEF.jpg)
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Post by: Jakob W on 16 August, 2015, 08:49:00 am
That'll buff out.
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Post by: David Martin on 02 September, 2015, 12:01:40 pm
Is there not a tall ship type thingy that has managed to run itself aground in the pool of London?
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/1381277_10155842308895478_7238965720049818428_n.jpg?oh=3e0ad6854770b1f3f8e018c841ea7667&oe=5660B9FC
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Post by: hatler on 02 September, 2015, 12:17:31 pm
Oooo. The Chilean sail training ship was in London recently. Could be that.

Edit after a quick Googling - Esmeralda
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 03 September, 2015, 03:42:07 pm
Is there not a tall ship type thingy that has managed to run itself aground in the pool of London?
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/1381277_10155842308895478_7238965720049818428_n.jpg?oh=3e0ad6854770b1f3f8e018c841ea7667&oe=5660B9FC
Doesn't look 'run aground' so much as 'grounded when the tide went out'. Hence the pontoon alongside.
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Post by: Jurek on 03 September, 2015, 04:04:55 pm
Is there not a tall ship type thingy that has managed to run itself aground in the pool of London?
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/1381277_10155842308895478_7238965720049818428_n.jpg?oh=3e0ad6854770b1f3f8e018c841ea7667&oe=5660B9FC
Doesn't look 'run aground' so much as 'grounded when the tide went out'. Hence the pontoon alongside.
I don't think its Pool of London.
I was it moored at Greenwich a few days ago - one of the deepest points of the river in London.
Does seem to be listing a tad though.
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Post by: phil653 on 03 September, 2015, 07:13:07 pm
Esmeralda has a murky past

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/29/pinochet-torture-chile-ship

But 'tis a four master, not three as the listing vessel appears to be.
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Post by: hatler on 03 September, 2015, 07:38:21 pm
And only the foremast on the Esmeralda is square rigged, whereas the ship in the photo is a full rigged ship, ie all masts are square rigged. That should pin it down a bit.
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Post by: Jurek on 03 September, 2015, 07:52:21 pm
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/701/21118465455_c4c7346627_b.jpg) (http://[url=https://flic.kr/p/ybaE2n) (https://flic.kr/p/ybaE2n)  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurekb/),

This  is what I saw (I think) last Thursday evening.
Not the Esmeralda, and facing the 'wrong' way to DM's image.
Although that doesn't mean they couldn't have turned it around (there'll doubtless be a nautical expression for that  :P)
One mast to many for the Esmeralda thobut.
The pontoon in DM's pic looks to me like the one pontooning just east of Deptford Creek.
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Post by: hatler on 03 September, 2015, 09:00:24 pm
One mast too many for the boat in the pic, as well as this one not having yards (horizontal wooden bits sticking out from the mast), as the one in the pic does.
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Post by: Jurek on 03 September, 2015, 09:39:57 pm
Yards.
Knowledge is a wonderful thing.
Thank you, Rob.
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Post by: hatler on 03 September, 2015, 09:45:09 pm
I would just love to take you over a square rigger one day. I detect that you would love it.
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Post by: Jurek on 03 September, 2015, 10:15:00 pm
I would just love to take you over a square rigger one day. I detect that you would love it.
Most likely.
Thank you.
I'd look forward to that, Rob.
(No pressure)
J
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Post by: Andrij on 04 September, 2015, 06:24:55 am
Is there not a tall ship type thingy that has managed to run itself aground in the pool of London?
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/1381277_10155842308895478_7238965720049818428_n.jpg?oh=3e0ad6854770b1f3f8e018c841ea7667&oe=5660B9FC


Spotted, methinks.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2Z1n1SUN83Y/VekqgRFmAkI/AAAAAAAAEd8/DezEtW9sRC0/s800-Ic42/20150904_012047.jpg)
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Post by: hatler on 04 September, 2015, 07:28:14 am
Very shabby. If they've got time to put a set of fairy lights on her they should have time for a harbour stow on the sails.
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Post by: Oscar's dad on 04 September, 2015, 07:31:13 am
Very shabby. If they've got time to put a set of fairy lights on her they should have time for a harbour stow on the sails.

I wonder if they've done that for asthetic effect.  But I agree, its shabby!
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Post by: hatler on 04 September, 2015, 07:52:51 am
Undoubtedly. Possibly in a Black Pearl stylee. Shabby and unseamanlike.
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Post by: hatler on 04 September, 2015, 09:19:28 am
I would just love to take you over a square rigger one day. I detect that you would love it.
Most likely.
Thank you.
I'd look forward to that, Rob.
(No pressure)
J

Hmmm. Ponders when a visit to the Cutty Sark might be in order. (Not as fun as a real working ship, but it does at least have the advantage of a) always being there, and b) open to the public. Neither of these guaranteed with any other square rigger.
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Post by: Oscar's dad on 04 September, 2015, 09:41:43 am
I want to go on a Thames spritsail barge, there are loads down at Maldon which is only a few miles away.  A yacf trip would be ace.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 04 September, 2015, 09:46:58 am
I witnessed a rather splendid sight at the beginning of August - a Thames barge tacking up the Blackwater, with only two people onboard (and no engine running). That was how they used to work, but seeing it done in 2015 was pretty neat. Typically they seem to have a cast of hundreds on board.
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Post by: PeteB99 on 04 September, 2015, 11:06:44 am
Very shabby. If they've got time to put a set of fairy lights on her they should have time for a harbour stow on the sails.

I wonder if they've done that for asthetic effect.  But I agree, its shabby!

Sails are "clewed up", a perfectly normal thing. It's usually the precursor stage to a harbour stow but in this case done for asthetic reasons. Not shabby in any way
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 September, 2015, 12:42:42 pm
I witnessed a rather splendid sight at the beginning of August - a Thames barge tacking up the Blackwater, with only two people onboard (and no engine running). That was how they used to work, but seeing it done in 2015 was pretty neat. Typically they seem to have a cast of hundreds on board.
Having sailed one, they are pretty easy. Much, much easier to handle than a dutch gaff rig (with it's huge boom). Gybing the dutch barge filled me with terror and required a minimum of 4 people (1 - leeboard winch, 1 on mainsheet, one on stays, one steering). The experienced skipper told me in anything other than a light breeze they tack right around rather than gybe.
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Post by: Jurek on 04 September, 2015, 12:45:31 pm
I want to go on a Thames spritsail barge, there are loads down at Maldon which is only a few miles away.  A yacf trip would be ace.
I've been on one of those. :thumbsup:
There's a guy who sails from what used to be called Neptune's Arm in Herne Bay, takes you with him for something like a fiver.
Goes out to the Maunsell Sea Forts.
He's a one man outfit, so at some point you can expect to be handed a rope with a request 'can you hold onto this and not let it go, I'll take it from you in a few minutes'.
The best bit though, is when he cuts the diesel and your moving along at a fair old clip, more than enough to have wind in your hair, in complete and utter silence.
Before we'd left the confines of the harbour (if you can call it that) one of the people on the barge eagerly asked of him 'So, where are we going today?'
With a resigned but patient look, like that of a man who has answered the question a thousand times he replied 'That depends on which way the wind is blowing.....'
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Post by: Oscar's dad on 04 September, 2015, 12:53:50 pm
I want to go on a Thames spritsail barge, there are loads down at Maldon which is only a few miles away.  A yacf trip would be ace.
I've been on one of those. :thumbsup:
There's a guy who sails from what used to be called Neptune's Arm in Herne Bay, takes you with him for something like a fiver.
Goes out to the Maunsell Sea Forts.
He's a one man outfit, so at some point you can expect to be handed a rope with a request 'can you hold onto this and not let it go, I'll take it from you in a few minutes'.
The best bit though, is when he cuts the diesel and your moving along at a fair old clip, more than enough to have wind in your hair, in complete and utter silence.
Before we'd left the confines of the harbour (if you can call it that) one of the people on the barge eagerly asked of him 'So, where are we going today?'
With a resigned but patient look, like that of a man who has answered the question a thousand times he replied 'That depends on which way the wind is blowing.....'

Ohhhhh, I'd love to come with you!  Are you planning a trip anytime soon?
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Post by: Andrij on 04 September, 2015, 01:00:18 pm
Me too!
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Post by: Oscar's dad on 04 September, 2015, 01:13:08 pm
Me thinks Jurek's mate could collect quite a few fivers off us lot!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 04 September, 2015, 01:29:04 pm
I should point out he's not a mate!
Four of us just pitched up one day and thought it was a good idea to go onna barge.
I wasn't planning a trip - but the guy is there throughout the summer months - presumably not so much when the weather is not so good.
You just turn up, and when he has enough on board, he sets sail.

I'm not sure if this is him...
April to November   01227 366 712   www.wildlifesailing.com - but I think someone has hacked the website...
Might be worth giving the number a call (it is a Herne Bay number), find out what's the minimum number on board and then see what interest there is here.
Oh. And find out if the boat is a Thames barge - if it is not, then it's not him.
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Post by: nicknack on 04 September, 2015, 01:35:40 pm
There's the Greta (http://www.greta1892.co.uk/) based in Whitstable too.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 11 October, 2015, 12:38:42 pm
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/WP_20151010_10_45_44_Pro_zpsdb4ckuma.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/WP_20151010_10_45_44_Pro_zpsdb4ckuma.jpg.html)

Sad end, I bet many a happy day was spent on this.
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Post by: Vince on 11 October, 2015, 02:00:53 pm
Isn't that the boat that Asterix bought?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 22 October, 2015, 11:41:02 pm
Roskilde shtuff:

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5738/22406009121_43a214f0e2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/A8WDU6)
IMG_5916 (https://flic.kr/p/A8WDU6) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5659/22284255115_75ed79a1ff_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zXbCF6)
IMG_5917 (https://flic.kr/p/zXbCF6) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5822/22294783651_afd33bd530_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zY7Arz)
IMG_5927 (https://flic.kr/p/zY7Arz) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/620/22207507748_e192b313ce_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zQphmC)
IMG_5931 (https://flic.kr/p/zQphmC) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5737/22097485159_bd7f8dcfe4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zEFotr)
IMG_5934 (https://flic.kr/p/zEFotr) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
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Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 25 October, 2015, 09:33:25 am
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/WP_20151011_16_10_51_Pro_zpsybjol3ju.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/WP_20151011_16_10_51_Pro_zpsybjol3ju.jpg.html)

just leaving Tilbury
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Post by: Mr Larrington on 25 October, 2015, 02:15:57 pm
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5648/21095804449_1c79cefcc3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/y9avGn)
P9090375 (https://flic.kr/p/y9avGn) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

I'm sure there's a generic name for these things but I'm damned if I know what it is.  They're basically a device to stop an ice chest from sinking.  Fair Isle Resort, Babine Lake, BC (hence the puddles).
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 26 October, 2015, 07:01:09 pm
Isn't the generic name for those "floating gin palace"?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Andrij on 26 October, 2015, 07:04:24 pm
Castle Park, Colchester
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/568/22287347030_19733b37df_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zXstMY)
DSC_0631.NEF (https://flic.kr/p/zXstMY) by Andrij (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bebchenko/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: scott on 26 October, 2015, 08:17:12 pm
Roskilde shtuff:

Oh, man -- the Viking Ship Museum is one of the places I most want to go in Europe.

I'm sure there's a generic name for these things but I'm damned if I know what it is.

Generically, "pontoon boat." More recently and flippantly, "party barge."
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: phil653 on 27 October, 2015, 12:30:09 pm
Interesting ex-boaty thing?

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah311/berry30/Mobile%20Uploads/20151005_161303_zpswjvnqlth.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: scott on 02 November, 2015, 02:47:23 pm

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5221/13926912715_fafbc15abe_c.jpg)
 (https://flic.kr/p/ndF4WK)R/V Rachel Carson (https://flic.kr/p/ndF4WK) by Scott Clark (https://www.flickr.com/photos/certhia/), on Flickr

The Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute's research vessel _Rachel Carson_, at dock in Moss Landing harbor, just north of Monterey, California.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 06 November, 2015, 09:47:14 am
This (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Diamond_(D34)) has just arrived in the harbour.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 06 November, 2015, 09:49:09 am
"This" ?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: matthew on 06 November, 2015, 10:56:47 am
This is a link to the Wiki for a UK naval craft, I suspect they might be a little sensitive to people walking up and taking pictures, or more likely Pingu doesn't have a camera to hand.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 06 November, 2015, 11:09:25 am
"This" ?

No, that.

Click on the link.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 06 November, 2015, 11:10:14 am
This is a link to the Wiki for a UK naval craft, I suspect they might be a little sensitive to people walking up and taking pictures, or more likely Pingu doesn't have a camera to hand.

The latter as I was watching from my office window.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 06 November, 2015, 11:13:39 am
I find this amazing, from the Wiki:
Quote
She was launched in 2007, completed her contractor's sea trials in July 2010 and arrived at her base port on 22 September 2010. Diamond was commissioned in a traditional ceremony on 6 May 2011, and formally entered service on 12 July 2011.
Four years from launch to entering service! I suppose that's normal and my ghasted flabbers are simply a sign of my unfamiliarity with naval procedures...
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 06 November, 2015, 12:02:55 pm
This is a link to the Wiki for a UK naval craft, I suspect they might be a little sensitive to people walking up and taking pictures, or more likely Pingu doesn't have a camera to hand.

The latter as I was watching from my office window.
I saw that parked up in Greenwich earlier this year. It is one very weird looking ship. Very stealth.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/663/22636605000_7954ec331f_k.jpg) (http://[url=https://flic.kr/p/Aujw27) (https://flic.kr/p/Aujw27)  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurekb/[/url)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: David Martin on 06 November, 2015, 12:18:39 pm
Roskilde shtuff:

Oh, man -- the Viking Ship Museum is one of the places I most want to go in Europe.


The one in Oslo (on Bygdøy) is fantastic. An architecture that really sets off the three boats therin.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: trekker12 on 06 November, 2015, 12:23:58 pm
I find this amazing, from the Wiki:
Quote
She was launched in 2007, completed her contractor's sea trials in July 2010 and arrived at her base port on 22 September 2010. Diamond was commissioned in a traditional ceremony on 6 May 2011, and formally entered service on 12 July 2011.
Four years from launch to entering service! I suppose that's normal and my ghasted flabbers are simply a sign of my unfamiliarity with naval procedures...

I seem to think (although I'm not a naval type) that 'launch' pretty much consists of throwing a fairly bare hull with an engine and propellers (all the underwater bits) into the water. All the fitting out of military equipment and associated electronics plus testing and sea trails are done once the boat is afloat.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 07 November, 2015, 12:12:18 am
...Bygdøy...

Trying to pronounce that  :-\ Boogderoo  :P
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: David Martin on 07 November, 2015, 08:41:53 am
...Bygdøy...

Trying to pronounce that  :-\ Boogderoo  :P

buigdeuy would be closer but there are two non English(scots)  sounds in there.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Wombat on 09 November, 2015, 01:20:28 pm
This is a link to the Wiki for a UK naval craft, I suspect they might be a little sensitive to people walking up and taking pictures, or more likely Pingu doesn't have a camera to hand.

The latter as I was watching from my office window.
I saw that parked up in Greenwich earlier this year. It is one very weird looking ship. Very stealth.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/663/22636605000_7954ec331f_k.jpg) (http://[url=https://flic.kr/p/Aujw27) (https://flic.kr/p/Aujw27)
 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurekb/[/url)

Yeah, yeah.  Common as muck!  Well, they are to those of us near Portsmuff, who've had the joy of seeing a replica of its upper works parked in the defence research establishment on top of Portsdown hill for the last ten years.  Seen 'em all, I think, Duncan, Dragon, Daring, Diamond, Dippy, Dozey and Droopy, or something like that.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: PeteB99 on 10 November, 2015, 12:13:05 pm
Arrived in the Mersey last week from China. The Zhen Hua 23 with 5 cranes for Liverpool's new container berths

For scale each of the crane frames is 93 metres tall.


(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag464/PeteB99/1c750de7-59d1-4afe-8537-47edcbc1a85b_zpsihj7ttag.jpg) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/PeteB99/media/1c750de7-59d1-4afe-8537-47edcbc1a85b_zpsihj7ttag.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 10 November, 2015, 12:17:23 pm
^^^ Holy 5hit!

How can that be safe?  I trust they didn't encounter any blowy weather along the way.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 10 November, 2015, 12:19:50 pm
They should have rigged some square sails on them !
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 10 November, 2015, 12:25:13 pm
Something nicely recursive about that. A huge ship from China arrives with cranes to unload... huge ships from China! (perhaps products of the Beijing Perpetual Motion Works?)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 10 November, 2015, 12:28:23 pm
1st thought: Stupidly, I thought the cranes are on the dockside.
2nd thought: How are they going to get them off the boat?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 10 November, 2015, 12:30:07 pm
First they have to wait for another huge ship to dock, that's carrying huge crane-unloading cranes from China. But they can't unload that one until...  ;D
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: clarion on 10 November, 2015, 01:06:47 pm
Conversation to wind up Scouse mate:

Me: Oooh, look at all them cranes!

Tommy: They're not cranes, they're derricks

Me: I don't care whose they are! ;)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: PeteB99 on 10 November, 2015, 01:14:39 pm
How is it safe?

I guess there must be a lot of ship under water that we can't see.

Blowy weather?

I was routed via the Cape of Good Hope rather than the Suez canal so they probably hit one or two storms on the way

How are they going to unload it?

Yeah I wondered about that as well which is why I waited 3 days between the ship arriving and going down to take the pictures. I couldn't see any visible progress though.

If you want to keep an eye on it the wirralcams site has a camera on the "Dome of Home" church pointing at Seaforth docks

http://www.wirralcam.org/dome.shtml (http://www.wirralcam.org/dome.shtml)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Vince on 10 November, 2015, 01:19:16 pm
They have to wait until the tide is the right height, then push them off really quickly.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 10 November, 2015, 01:22:43 pm
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag464/PeteB99/1c750de7-59d1-4afe-8537-47edcbc1a85b_zpsihj7ttag.jpg) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/PeteB99/media/1c750de7-59d1-4afe-8537-47edcbc1a85b_zpsihj7ttag.jpg.html)
That boat looks to be very lightly loaded. I wonder if it travelled ballasted down and they've removed the ballast?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Vince on 10 November, 2015, 01:27:19 pm
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t140/VinceHall/CyclingStuff/20151102_163422_zpskklvea3y.jpg)

DFDS ferry in the mist somewhere off Calais.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: trekker12 on 10 November, 2015, 01:37:46 pm
1st thought: Stupidly, I thought the cranes are on the dockside.
2nd thought: How are they going to get them off the boat?

Similar units being delivered to Washington - you wheel them off apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgfPoReE-G8
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 10 November, 2015, 01:54:12 pm
That Youtube link links to some very *ahem* interesting footage....
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: PeteB99 on 10 November, 2015, 02:07:56 pm
That Youtube link links to some very *ahem* interesting footage....

Doesn't youtube tailor links according to things you've viewed recently?

My selection was a 1955 Grand Prix and a couple of films of electric bicycles  ;D
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 10 November, 2015, 02:18:08 pm
That Youtube link links to some very *ahem* interesting footage....

Doesn't youtube tailor links according to things you've viewed recently?

My selection was a 1955 Grand Prix and a couple of films of electric bicycles  ;D
All I get is more footage of cranes.

Jurek, what have you been looking at recently?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 10 November, 2015, 02:48:31 pm
Big cranes being unloaded off a big Chinese boat  ;)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 10 November, 2015, 03:59:47 pm
http://www.wirralcam.org/dome.shtml (http://www.wirralcam.org/dome.shtml)

Looks like they're starting to unload a couple of them.....
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: PeteB99 on 10 November, 2015, 04:13:30 pm
Local papers photos of it arriving last week

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/recap-zhen-hua-transporter-brings-10372778 (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/recap-zhen-hua-transporter-brings-10372778)

The views from ahead are a bit scary.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Andrij on 13 December, 2015, 05:45:24 pm
Derelict London Boats (http://www.derelictlondon.com/boats.html)

I've seen (and photographed) a few.  Come better weather, I think I shall track down the rest.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 13 December, 2015, 06:55:08 pm
A large part of my job is designing and building the container ports where those big container cranes are used. The ships generally need more than 10m water depth (sometimes noticeably more than that), so they are reasonably stable in transit, despite looking quite odd.

ZPMC deliver not far shy of a crane a day, about 75% of the world container crane market.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: PeteB99 on 14 December, 2015, 10:53:30 am
Derelict London Boats (http://www.derelictlondon.com/boats.html)

I've seen (and photographed) a few.  Come better weather, I think I shall track down the rest.

I knew the Royal Iris was rotting somewhere down by the Thames barrier but it's a bit sad to see her in such a state.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: phil653 on 12 January, 2016, 07:19:17 pm
Michael rowed dis boat ashore a very long time ago

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah311/berry30/IMGP4382_zps1lbc5qne.jpg?t=1452539909)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: The French Tandem on 01 February, 2016, 07:58:15 pm
The thing looks neither modern, nor express, and I'm wondering how can it be still afloat!

(http://s2.lemde.fr/image/2016/02/01/534x0/4857453_6_473d_2016-02-01-171dbcb-34782e2cddd941409dc0f2c6d895e_a315d8b1b045868a3080a467c2af89f2.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 01 February, 2016, 08:09:39 pm
One has to presume that it's centre of buoyancy is still higher than its centre of gravity.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 02 February, 2016, 04:29:42 pm
She had to make an appearance in this thread, obvs:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1662/24681430111_63fd89aeec_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DB1Mht)
MS Lofoten in Honningsvåg (https://flic.kr/p/DB1Mht) by billplumtree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/billplumtree/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Wombat on 03 February, 2016, 08:46:28 am
Git!

Maybe next year....
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Wombat on 03 February, 2016, 12:40:52 pm
The thing looks neither modern, nor express, and I'm wondering how can it be still afloat!

(http://s2.lemde.fr/image/2016/02/01/534x0/4857453_6_473d_2016-02-01-171dbcb-34782e2cddd941409dc0f2c6d895e_a315d8b1b045868a3080a467c2af89f2.jpg)

Distressingly reminiscent of the Hoegh Osaka, which recently sat for a while at that sort of angle off these very shores.  A pretty well identical looking ship, which was full of Range rovers wot got bent  ;D and JCBs which presumably did the bending  ;D ;D.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: redshift on 21 February, 2016, 09:50:07 pm
I suddenly find we have a boaty thread. 

Old, but similar: Riverdance, on Blackpool beach.

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/shifty176/Riverdance%20Ferry/imgp1971.jpg) (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/shifty176/media/Riverdance%20Ferry/imgp1971.jpg.html)

And the replica of topsail schooner HMS Pickle, at Amlwch harbour:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3296/2899403169_39421c770d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/5qdcxP)Topsail Schooner (https://flic.kr/p/5qdcxP) by shifty176 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/27345381@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Torslanda on 23 February, 2016, 03:32:54 pm
That should buff out . . .

Jetwash and bit of T-Cut.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: phil653 on 02 March, 2016, 07:46:47 pm
I wonder how long it's been down there:

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah311/berry30/IMGP4475_zpsmwundfqg.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: trekker12 on 04 March, 2016, 12:09:24 pm
Well the mooring rope/chain is still attached to something so I hope they are still paying their mooring fee!

(or possibly it's being used as the anchor point for someone else's mooring - must look into that when it comes time to relocate Mrs Trekkers boat)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 04 March, 2016, 03:08:09 pm
I wonder how long it's been down there:

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah311/berry30/IMGP4475_zpsmwundfqg.jpg)

Now remind me how this works again. .................You're out on your bike and you stop by the waters edge, and lo and behold you spot this object under the water. 'Hold on'' you cry, I must photograph this for that 'boaty type things ' thread on yACF    :)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: phil653 on 04 March, 2016, 03:21:07 pm
I wonder how long it's been down there:

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah311/berry30/IMGP4475_zpsmwundfqg.jpg)

Now remind me how this works again. .................You're out on your bike and you stop by the waters edge, and lo and behold you spot this object under the water. 'Hold on'' you cry, I must photograph this for that 'boaty type type things ' thread on yACF    :)

Right on all counts, except I was out for a walk.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: trekker12 on 04 March, 2016, 03:56:15 pm
It doesn't look like English water, you normally can't see that deep
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: phil653 on 04 March, 2016, 08:56:47 pm
Clear waters of the Med. Business trip to Marseille. Sunday afternoon stroll around the marina approaches of l'Estaque.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 16 March, 2016, 06:53:33 pm
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/WP_20160308_15_01_32_Pro_zps14cbbt4y.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/WP_20160308_15_01_32_Pro_zps14cbbt4y.jpg.html)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/WP_20160308_15_01_39_Pro_zps3db4ffkx.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/WP_20160308_15_01_39_Pro_zps3db4ffkx.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 09 May, 2016, 08:00:08 pm
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/WP_20160508_09_53_14_Pro_zpspbeurj3y.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/WP_20160508_09_53_14_Pro_zpspbeurj3y.jpg.html)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/WP_20160508_09_55_15_Pro_zpsmxdqitur.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/WP_20160508_09_55_15_Pro_zpsmxdqitur.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 09 May, 2016, 08:02:15 pm
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/WP_20160508_09_22_41_Pro_zpstr6gefcw.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/WP_20160508_09_22_41_Pro_zpstr6gefcw.jpg.html)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/WP_20160508_09_22_54_Pro_zps0zw6dsdq.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/WP_20160508_09_22_54_Pro_zps0zw6dsdq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 09 May, 2016, 08:06:14 pm
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/WP_20160508_09_10_13_Pro_zpsyoy2baag.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/WP_20160508_09_10_13_Pro_zpsyoy2baag.jpg.html)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/WP_20160508_09_10_03_Pro_zpsnqgophje.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/WP_20160508_09_10_03_Pro_zpsnqgophje.jpg.html)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/WP_20160508_09_09_38_Pro_zpsp92a99li.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/WP_20160508_09_09_38_Pro_zpsp92a99li.jpg.html)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/WP_20160508_09_08_52_Pro_zpsuzjk18qd.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/WP_20160508_09_08_52_Pro_zpsuzjk18qd.jpg.html)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/WP_20160508_09_08_24_Pro_zps4c5xztmn.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/WP_20160508_09_08_24_Pro_zps4c5xztmn.jpg.html)


OOoo, give us a tug!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Palinurus on 11 June, 2016, 05:02:05 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/wO2xkeK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/efmM0qr.jpg)

I didn't get a close look (wrong side of canal) but I really hope the tiller and throttle have been connected up to the car.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Palinurus on 11 June, 2016, 05:04:01 pm
Just imagine the driver of that leaning out of the door to reverse.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 14 June, 2016, 06:03:14 pm
Belgian boats:

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7186/27529966302_45eefa1bb9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HWJgRq)
IMG_6733_01 (https://flic.kr/p/HWJgRq) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/8/7416/27631333695_d49b49aabc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J6FNR6)
IMG_6814_01 (https://flic.kr/p/J6FNR6) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jaded on 14 June, 2016, 06:27:33 pm
Shown elsewhere

(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Pageant/DSC_6120.jpg)

(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Pageant/DSC_6098.jpg)

(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Pageant/DSC_6129.jpg)

(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Pageant/DSC_6131.jpg)

(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Pageant/DSC_6447.jpg)

(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Pageant/DSC_5956.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 30 June, 2016, 05:30:12 pm
Posting this here on the grounds it will appeal to previous posters, the National Maritime Museum have launched an appeal to raise the funds to buy a significant portrait of Queen Elizabeth I.

Details here (http://www.rmg.co.uk/join-support/help-save-armada-portrait).
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jaded on 19 August, 2016, 11:32:31 am
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/DSC_1096_DxO.jpg)

(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/DSC_1109_DxO.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Palinurus on 19 August, 2016, 11:48:15 am


Now remind me how this works again. .................You're out on your bike and you stop by the waters edge, and lo and behold you spot this object under the water. 'Hold on'' you cry, I must photograph this for that 'boaty type things ' thread on yACF    :)

That's exactly how it works. Same with the CDC thread, and the dead BSO thread...
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: billplumtree on 19 August, 2016, 02:00:36 pm
And bridges.  Don't forget bridges.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 August, 2016, 03:26:48 pm
Wot Bill said.  No-one here would ever mount a Special Expotition just to look for bridges.  That would be silly.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 30 August, 2016, 12:24:05 am
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8077/29325532435_bf2b1b0a50_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LFp27c)
Mississippi barge train on the Chouteau Canal (https://flic.kr/p/LFp27c) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8032/29217214002_d73f9b5044_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LvPRP1)
Stern-wheeler "Spirit of Peoria" passing barge train (https://flic.kr/p/LvPRP1) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8072/29217216082_ba16051e37_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LvPSqS)
Pusher tug at the back of said barge train (https://flic.kr/p/LvPSqS) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jakob W on 02 September, 2016, 08:44:29 pm
How does the steering of a barge train with a pusher tug work then? I'd have thought it was dynamically unstable...
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 September, 2016, 11:23:13 pm
What's on those barges: coal?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 03 September, 2016, 01:34:06 am
How does the steering of a barge train with a pusher tug work then? I'd have thought it was dynamically unstable...

Dunno, I only saw it going in a straight line ;D  I suppose that if the whole think is lashed tightly enough together it behaves much like a rigid vessel.

What's on those barges: coal?

Couldn't say as whatever it is had covers over it.

I'm not being very helpful, am I?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 03 September, 2016, 03:34:11 am
Mr Larrington has the right answer. The barges and tug are tightly lashed together and behave as a large vessel, with the same sight distance, steering and stopping limitations.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 03 September, 2016, 06:38:43 am
its not at all unusual to see pusher tugs strapped to the sides of full-of-landfill barges on the Thames.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 03 September, 2016, 07:00:27 am
Those barges are not just for landfill. There is quite a bit sent for incineration/ power generation.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Panoramix on 03 September, 2016, 11:03:52 am
its not at all unusual to see pusher tugs strapped to the sides of full-of-landfill barges on the Thames.

To the side is the common and easy way to tow in a retringed area, you just need to remember and anticipate that when you will have to go astern to stop the thing, it is going to veer toward the tug!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: cycleman on 03 September, 2016, 01:01:54 pm
Cables from the tug to barges pull the front barges left or right right I think it  :)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 09 September, 2016, 02:20:28 am
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8350/28929736633_cc9e932e03_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L5qsND)
P9080013 (https://flic.kr/p/L5qsND) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

Deep submergence rescue vehicle "Avalon" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSRV-2_Avalon), Morro Bay CA

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8268/29472225901_f79e1c9d73_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LUmRXT)
P9080041 (https://flic.kr/p/LUmRXT) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

Yatch having a hard time into a mighty rushing headwind, just east of the Golden Gate
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Si S on 12 September, 2016, 08:26:30 am
Unusual in that you don't get many wrecks in Cheshire, the MV Chica

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8351/29570236156_8090397d6c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/M42bZS)
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Post by: PeteB99 on 12 September, 2016, 11:05:17 am

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8268/29472225901_f79e1c9d73_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LUmRXT)
P9080041 (https://flic.kr/p/LUmRXT) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

Yatch having a hard time into a mighty rushing headwind, just east of the Golden Gate

Interesting flag she's flying from the peak. Not a variety of the national flag not the US yacht flag and not the Massachusets ensign from where the original Tiger hailed.

Anyone recognise it?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 12 September, 2016, 11:11:00 am
This looks like Tiger's website (https://sites.google.com/site/schoonertiger/home).  She is on FB too.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: PeteB99 on 12 September, 2016, 11:23:15 am
Yeah I saw the website. Doesn't identify the flag though. It looks similar to some of the historical US flags but I can't see any quite the same. If they are keeping to the history of the ship it should be a flag from around 1830.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: The French Tandem on 15 September, 2016, 07:53:11 am
Spotted on Tuesday morning somewhere between Dover and Calais (sorry for the poor quality). Anyone knows what it is?

(http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b482/ratle/boaty_zpsyzvoj9gb.jpg)
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Post by: hatler on 15 September, 2016, 07:54:23 am
I think that's called a jack-up rig. Legs can go down to the bottom to secure it in place.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 15 September, 2016, 08:41:33 am
Correct. They jack up enough that the hull stays clear of waves, giving a stable work platform, particularly when craning heavy items like wind turbines into position. http://www.seajacks.com is a jack up rig company with several rigs based in Great Yarmouth. Their website shows how they are used.

Most have three or four legs, six legs is quite unusual. There can't be too many rigs with six legs out there.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 15 September, 2016, 01:31:45 pm
Yeah I saw the website. Doesn't identify the flag though. It looks similar to some of the historical US flags but I can't see any quite the same. If they are keeping to the history of the ship it should be a flag from around 1830.
It looks like the flag 2nd from left, one up from bottom, in this pic:
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States#/media/File:US_historical_flags-United_States_of_America.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States#/media/File:US_historical_flags-United_States_of_America.jpg

Which looks to me like the 1861-3 version, Kansas, in this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States#Historical_progression_of_designs
Note it says at the top that until they got to 48 stars, there was no official pattern for the stars, so a circle was just as acceptable as rows.

Edit: I count 24 stars on Mr Larrington's photo, so bearing in mind free arrangement, that would place it at "July 4, 1822 – July 3, 1836
1831 term "Old Glory" coined" and new state Missouri on the Wiki list.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: JStone on 20 September, 2016, 04:18:30 pm
Similar to The French Tandem's sighting ^^ in the Channel - but bigger. The world's largest jack-up rig Noble Lloyd Noble sitting on the semi-submersible heavy lift ship MV Hawk off Cromarty last week.

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8123/29778222006_346d0797eb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MnpaWN)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 20 September, 2016, 04:44:09 pm
Good grief!  You wouldn't want to get caught in heavy weather whilst on board that!  Scary!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 20 September, 2016, 05:14:51 pm
I imagine there is an emergency 'jettison the cargo' procedure if things get too marginal. Release the tie-downs, flood the ballast tanks on the carrier ship, and then let the rig float off. Mind you, rather them than me if things have got that marginal.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 20 September, 2016, 05:16:25 pm
Thinking about it, I would want explosive bolts securing the load so that they could all be fired at once, without requiring anyone to be on deck. And you could do that once the carrier ship was properly awash.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 20 September, 2016, 06:02:36 pm
I don't know about explosive bolts securing the rig. When container cranes are delivered to container ports, the cranes are welded to the ship's deck and the hot axe is used before they are rolled onto the quay. Crane delivery ships will tend to avoid the worst weather in safe harbours.

http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/91012/four-new-gantry-cranes-arrive-to-hhla-container-terminal-germany-2/

I was fairly heavily involved with the London Gateway container port and the crane delivery ships (three separate shipments of identical cranes) look very lopsided as they berth.
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/event/ship-to-shore-cranes-delivered-to-dp-worlds-new-londongateway-port-163056410
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 23 September, 2016, 10:07:00 am
I don't know about explosive bolts securing the rig. When container cranes are delivered to container ports, the cranes are welded to the ship's deck and the hot axe is used before they are rolled onto the quay. Crane delivery ships will tend to avoid the worst weather in safe harbours.

http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/91012/four-new-gantry-cranes-arrive-to-hhla-container-terminal-germany-2/

I was fairly heavily involved with the London Gateway container port and the crane delivery ships (three separate shipments of identical cranes) look very lopsided as they berth.
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/event/ship-to-shore-cranes-delivered-to-dp-worlds-new-londongateway-port-163056410
The windage on those things makes me cringe. Steering must have been an nightmare.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: T42 on 23 September, 2016, 01:23:29 pm
Rather sleek Swiss barge on the Rhine:

(http://www.pbase.com/johnewing/image/164141074.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: The French Tandem on 23 September, 2016, 01:41:56 pm
^^ Swiss? Are you sure? The flag looks a bit more Dutch than Swiss!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: T42 on 23 September, 2016, 02:31:05 pm
The badge on the bow and the flag at the stern are Swiss. The one on the mast looks like a house flag, and also bears the Swiss cross:

(http://www.pbase.com/image/164141649.jpg)

Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 24 September, 2016, 02:02:26 am
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8193/29800407461_ac292ff03e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MpmSUD)
P9230056 (https://flic.kr/p/MpmSUD) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr.  Most of the Federal Weser passing through Soo Locks between Lake Superior and Lake Huron.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8421/29848494066_4f4a66e5ed_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MtBko3)
P9230058 (https://flic.kr/p/MtBko3) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr.  Squint in the distance to see the Paul R. Tregurtha queuing in the background.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 08 October, 2016, 12:08:38 pm
This
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8270/30073314712_a0883e244b_b.jpg)
On the Thames by the Isle of Dogs a couple of days ago.
I guessed (almost) correctly that it had pitched up to salvage a barge which had sunk at its mooring buoy in the middle of the river around four weeks ago.
But no, no salvage, just shifted the wreck to the north bank of the river where, I guess, it is more out of harm's way.
It'll be something for the kids to play on at low tide.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 20 October, 2016, 02:37:36 pm
No pics, but a Finnish minelayer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A4meenmaa-class_minelayer) came into the harbour this morning and now there's a submarine lurking just outside  ??? Anything to do with the Russian flotilla (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37706425?intlink_from_url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/39267b85-1784-4f4b-80ed-f8cb4a35f337/russia&link_location=live-reporting-story)?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: spesh on 20 October, 2016, 02:55:21 pm
No pics, but a Finnish minelayer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A4meenmaa-class_minelayer) came into the harbour this morning and now there's a submarine lurking just outside  ??? Anything to do with the Russian flotilla (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37706425?intlink_from_url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/39267b85-1784-4f4b-80ed-f8cb4a35f337/russia&link_location=live-reporting-story)?

I wouldn't be at all surprised.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 20 October, 2016, 03:11:06 pm
No pics, but a Finnish minelayer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A4meenmaa-class_minelayer) came into the harbour this morning and now there's a submarine lurking just outside  ??? Anything to do with the Russian flotilla (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37706425?intlink_from_url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/39267b85-1784-4f4b-80ed-f8cb4a35f337/russia&link_location=live-reporting-story)?

I wouldn't be at all surprised.

The submarine has come into the harbour. It's Norwegian S301 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ula-class_submarine).

I've never seen a submarine in this harbour.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 20 October, 2016, 03:37:34 pm
They are there to Finnish the Russians off.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: spesh on 20 October, 2016, 03:50:55 pm
They are there to Finnish the Russians off.

 ;D

Or they're helping to make sure that the Russians don't shoot up any trawlers if they pass through the North Sea. They have form for that sort of thing.  :demon:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogger_Bank_incident
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 20 October, 2016, 07:17:28 pm
A bunch of blond men going 'ka-ka-ka-ka-ka' in the Moorings this evening.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: spesh on 20 October, 2016, 07:35:28 pm
A bunch of blond men going 'Ulrika-ka-ka-ka-ka' in the Moorings this evening.

Fixed.   ;)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 20 October, 2016, 07:45:27 pm
A bunch of blond men going 'Ulrika-ka-ka-ka-ka' in the Moorings this evening.

Fixed.   ;)

I am an egg.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: David Martin on 20 October, 2016, 08:25:24 pm
This is what a jack up rig looks like when you jack it right up in port.

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/5/4082/4959917071_659b627d6e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/8yhSxz)Gorilla in Dundee (https://flic.kr/p/8yhSxz) by David Martin (https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/), on Flickr

One of the Gorilla class (VII I think).

The jack up platform was invented for installing the bridge at Montrose over the River Esk and then used for the replacement Tay Bridge.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 20 October, 2016, 08:33:31 pm
Strewth! wouldn't want to do that on a windy day!
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Post by: Jurek on 20 October, 2016, 08:44:05 pm
Impressive. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: David Martin on 20 October, 2016, 09:04:41 pm
Strewth! wouldn't want to do that on a windy day!

Check out the water behind. It was far from a flat calm. About a force 5
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 20 October, 2016, 09:08:08 pm
Not sure what is worse - Having all that leggage exposed to Force 5 or submerged and exposed to currents?
Instinct makes me think Force 5 is worse.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Panoramix on 21 October, 2016, 08:20:40 am
Not sure what is worse - Having all that leggage exposed to Force 5 or submerged and exposed to currents?
Instinct makes me think Force 5 is worse.

There are whitecaps regularly which is consitent with force 5 especially as the fetch seems short.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 21 October, 2016, 08:41:28 am
I know this stuff is easy to look up (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale) but I think it's fun to see the descriptions which form the basis of the Beaufort Scale.

This was all formulated when there was no easy way of measuring wind speed, so the basis of the marks in the scale were determined by the observable change in the open sea state. What always tickles me is that the original scale didn't get beyond a 12, on the grounds that there was no discernible difference in the sea state however much more the wind blew. Or was it perhaps that no-one had been at sea in anything more than a 12 and survived.  :-) 

0   Calm            Sea like a mirror
1   Light air         Ripples with the appearance of scales are formed, but without foam crests
2   Light breeze      Small wavelets, still short but more pronounced; crests have a glassy appearance and do not break   Wind felt on exposed skin.
3   Gentle breeze      Large wavelets. Crests begin to break; scattered whitecaps
4   Moderate breeze   Small waves with breaking crests. Fairly frequent whitecaps.
5   Fresh breeze      Moderate waves of some length. Many whitecaps. Small amounts of spray.
6   Strong breeze      Long waves begin to form. White foam crests are very frequent. Some airborne spray is present.
7   High wind         Sea heaps up. Some foam from breaking waves is blown into streaks along wind direction. Moderate amounts of airborne spray.
8   Gale            Moderately high waves with breaking crests forming spindrift. Well-marked streaks of foam are blown along wind direction. Considerable airborne spray.
9   Strong/severe gale   High waves whose crests sometimes roll over. Dense foam is blown along wind direction. Large amounts of airborne spray may begin to reduce visibility.
10   Storm         Very high waves with overhanging crests. Large patches of foam from wave crests give the sea a white appearance. Considerable tumbling of waves with heavy impact. Large amounts of airborne spray reduce visibility.
11   Violent storm      Exceptionally high waves. Very large patches of foam, driven before the wind, cover much of the sea surface. Very large amounts of airborne spray severely reduce visibility.
12   Hurricane force      Huge waves. Sea is completely white with foam and spray. Air is filled with driving spray, greatly reducing visibility.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Panoramix on 21 October, 2016, 11:51:38 am
That's what they had at the times but it is a bit flawed as the wave shape will be dependent on fetch and for how long the wind has been blowing. Some people report sea and wind indepedently like f4 wind and f2 sea, at least there were doing this in the French navy during my national service.

I don't think that in a bay, force 4 can generate whitecaps like those on the photo, it just creates a short choppy sea. There could be exceptions in places with strong tidal streams though.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: LEE on 21 October, 2016, 01:41:25 pm
Are those Jack-Up houses in the foreground?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Torslanda on 21 October, 2016, 05:31:41 pm
No. Jerry-built...
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 21 October, 2016, 05:37:30 pm
I used to jack buildings up.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Aunt Maud on 21 October, 2016, 06:59:56 pm
I used to jack buildings up.

That's interesting, what type of buildings were they ?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Feanor on 21 October, 2016, 07:30:21 pm
No pics, but a Finnish minelayer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A4meenmaa-class_minelayer) came into the harbour this morning and now there's a submarine lurking just outside  ??? Anything to do with the Russian flotilla (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37706425?intlink_from_url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/39267b85-1784-4f4b-80ed-f8cb4a35f337/russia&link_location=live-reporting-story)?

I wouldn't be at all surprised.

The submarine has come into the harbour. It's Norwegian S301 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ula-class_submarine).

I've never seen a submarine in this harbour.

Seems to have made the news...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37730422
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 22 October, 2016, 01:03:14 am
I started with the walls of houses, then moved on to whole houses, warehouse roofs and ultimately a lighthouse. Good fun.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Torslanda on 22 October, 2016, 02:02:15 am
This was apparently jacked up . . .

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d55/shedbike/France%202012/038.jpg)

The Eighth Air Force made rather a mess of the first phase whilst it was still wet. 
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Vince on 26 February, 2017, 11:07:39 pm
On a hill above land locked Dursley

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2905/33009963301_378f1cbc6f_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ShYG3i)2017-02-26_10-57-20 (https://flic.kr/p/ShYG3i) by Vince Hall (https://www.flickr.com/photos/122020004@N05/), on Flickr

Poor man's RIB

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3777/32321512753_7f78f3c9bc_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Rf9cFg)2017-02-26_10-58-26 (https://flic.kr/p/Rf9cFg) by Vince Hall (https://www.flickr.com/photos/122020004@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 27 February, 2017, 12:25:23 am
Exciting newish acquisition for the hatler household.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2866/33138350885_d78ba90628_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Panoramix on 01 March, 2017, 04:01:12 am
Exciting newish acquisition for the hatler household.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2866/33138350885_d78ba90628_z.jpg)

Cool, is it a merlin rocket?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 01 March, 2017, 07:36:49 am
Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Panoramix on 01 March, 2017, 07:48:57 am
Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.

A few of them got here in North Brittany.

I envy you, the dinghy scene here is nowhere near as dynamic as in the UK. The only one design or rule box series that have a bit of traction are Optimist, Laser, Caravelle, HC16, Dart 18 and Formula 18. It's a shame, there are hundreds of Vaurien, 420, 470, Moth Europe, rotting in barns but people are not interested. I sail a laser because that's the most dynamic singlehanded serie and we tend to be about 10-15 boats attending local races, mostly youngsters say 80% aged less than 25.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 01 March, 2017, 07:52:06 am
Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.

Lovely!  Nice looking sails from what I can see (I used to be a sailmaker a long time ago).
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 01 March, 2017, 08:02:12 am
Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.

Lovely!  Nice looking sails from what I can see (I used to be a sailmaker a long time ago).
Thank you. And they're the second best suit for club racing. Once I get the hang of sailing these things again I'll break out the good suit.

I considered heading into the boat industry years ago and had a long chat with an Essex based sailmaker about the trade. For a variety of reasons I ended up heading elsewhere though I'd always imagined that there must be a great deal of satisfaction (if not desperately remunerative) in making sails. Why did you move out of sailmaking (if that's not too personal a question) ?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 01 March, 2017, 08:45:01 am
Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.

A few of them got here in North Brittany.

I envy you, the dinghy scene here is nowhere near as dynamic as in the UK. The only one design or rule box series that have a bit of traction are Optimist, Laser, Caravelle, HC16, Dart 18 and Formula 18. It's a shame, there are hundreds of Vaurien, 420, 470, Moth Europe, rotting in barns but people are not interested. I sail a laser because that's the most dynamic singlehanded serie and we tend to be about 10-15 boats attending local races, mostly youngsters say 80% aged less than 25.
Do you mean that there are some there on a permanent basis ?  Very cool if so.

I'm fresh back into the dinghy scene here (after a 15 year absence) and as far as I can tell the problems evident back then are broadly the same as now. Too many clubs chasing a reducing number of ageing sailors who want to sail too broad a diversity of dinghy classes. (And that is a very broad generalisation.)

Luckily I've stumbled on a club that has, without formalising what can and can't be sailed, effectively become a two-type club, Merlins and Lasers (at least in the Wintertime - I haven't seen what happens in the Summer yet). On Sunday there were nine Merlins and six Lasers out, and two of the regular Merlin sailors were on duty in the rescue boat.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 01 March, 2017, 08:59:25 am
Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.

Lovely!  Nice looking sails from what I can see (I used to be a sailmaker a long time ago).
Thank you. And they're the second best suit for club racing. Once I get the hang of sailing these things again I'll break out the good suit.

I considered heading into the boat industry years ago and had a long chat with an Essex based sailmaker about the trade. For a variety of reasons I ended up heading elsewhere though I'd always imagined that there must be a great deal of satisfaction (if not desperately remunerative) in making sails. Why did you move out of sailmaking (if that's not too personal a question) ?

We're talking mid to late 80s. I made sails for about 3 or 4 years, had a hoot but earned a pittance. Then rode my bike round Europe for a couple of months, came back and went from sails to sales to earn enough money to get a mortgage.  I've been in sales ever since.  For a few years I sold sailcloth which was the best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 01 March, 2017, 01:41:44 pm
The sailmaker I chatted to had worked his nuts off for years to build a decentish business. As sales grew they wanted to branch out into bigger sails, but needed a suitable sail loft. Local council were selling off a school in small lots, and one of the lots was the gym with a couple of ancillary buildings. Bids were by sealed lot. The sailmaker was successful (huzzah !) but only needed the gym, so they sold off the other two buildings. These buildings sold for more than he had paid for the entire lot. In fact, the profit on that one deal was the equivalent of two or three year's profit from the sailmaking business. It was that fact which determined my future didn't lie in the boat industry. (So I can well believe that you earned a pittance.)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 01 March, 2017, 03:53:39 pm
The sailmaker I chatted to had worked his nuts off for years to build a decentish business. As sales grew they wanted to branch out into bigger sails, but needed a suitable sail loft. Local council were selling off a school in small lots, and one of the lots was the gym with a couple of ancillary buildings. Bids were by sealed lot. The sailmaker was successful (huzzah !) but only needed the gym, so they sold off the other two buildings. These buildings sold for more than he had paid for the entire lot. In fact, the profit on that one deal was the equivalent of two or three year's profit from the sailmaking business. It was that fact which determined my future didn't lie in the boat industry. (So I can well believe that you earned a pittance.)

Sounds like a great deal!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 05 March, 2017, 11:42:41 am
Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.

A few of them got here in North Brittany.

I envy you, the dinghy scene here is nowhere near as dynamic as in the UK. The only one design or rule box series that have a bit of traction are Optimist, Laser, Caravelle, HC16, Dart 18 and Formula 18. It's a shame, there are hundreds of Vaurien, 420, 470, Moth Europe, rotting in barns but people are not interested. I sail a laser because that's the most dynamic singlehanded serie and we tend to be about 10-15 boats attending local races, mostly youngsters say 80% aged less than 25.
Are you anywhere near Carnac ?

A bunch of Merlins are apparently heading for the Carnac open dinghy meeting (http://www.merlinrocket.co.uk/index.asp?selection=Diary&eid=886) at the end of May.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Panoramix on 05 March, 2017, 02:23:39 pm
Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.

A few of them got here in North Brittany.

I envy you, the dinghy scene here is nowhere near as dynamic as in the UK. The only one design or rule box series that have a bit of traction are Optimist, Laser, Caravelle, HC16, Dart 18 and Formula 18. It's a shame, there are hundreds of Vaurien, 420, 470, Moth Europe, rotting in barns but people are not interested. I sail a laser because that's the most dynamic singlehanded serie and we tend to be about 10-15 boats attending local races, mostly youngsters say 80% aged less than 25.
Are you anywhere near Carnac ?

A bunch of Merlins are apparently heading for the Carnac open dinghy meeting (http://www.merlinrocket.co.uk/index.asp?selection=Diary&eid=886) at the end of May.

I sail in North Brittany (close to St Malo) but I live in Rennes which is not too far away from Carnac. The "Baie de Quiberon" is a really nice place to race. I wasn't aware of this race.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Palinurus on 03 April, 2017, 05:34:04 pm
Commuted along the canal in the fog this morning- very nice

But what's this?
(http://i.imgur.com/W9wnw0w.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Andrij on 03 April, 2017, 05:37:53 pm
Common as muck. (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=81504.msg1879550#msg1879550)

Oil platform 'life boats', IIRC.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Palinurus on 03 April, 2017, 05:44:48 pm
Common as muck. (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=81504.msg1879550#msg1879550)

Oil platform 'life boats', IIRC.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: David Martin on 04 April, 2017, 11:57:12 pm
Anyone able to collect, I have an 11ft sailing dinghy in need of restoration to a good home. Wensum.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 07 April, 2017, 07:20:21 am
For those interested in such things, the Greenwich Tall Ships Regatta takes place over the Easter weekend.
http://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/tallships
Much square footage of sail.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 10 April, 2017, 09:29:54 pm
The first of the tall ships have started to arrive.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 08 May, 2017, 06:45:35 pm
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/WP_20170508_13_50_24_Pro_zpszn9zpfk8.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/WP_20170508_13_50_24_Pro_zpszn9zpfk8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: TheLurker on 08 May, 2017, 07:41:36 pm
Carrick Roads today.  Ernst Stavro Blofeld on his hols.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4172/34152308330_56e9902506_z_d.jpg)

If the scale isn't obvious that's getting on for half the length of one of the RN's new(ish) Type 45s
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: David Martin on 09 May, 2017, 11:24:24 am
Currently pretending to not be a boat.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4156/34155176190_24e604e607_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U3bcW7)DSC_0760 (https://flic.kr/p/U3bcW7) by David Martin (https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 30 May, 2017, 11:20:33 am
This is in the harbour just now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ship_Alliance_(A5345) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ship_Alliance_(A5345))


Edit: changed link to make it work
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: The French Tandem on 30 May, 2017, 12:09:30 pm
This is in the harbour just now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ship_Alliance_(A5345)

That's a rather strange name for an Italian ship. I would rather have christened her Alleanza.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 19 June, 2017, 12:01:16 am
Bathio - Belgian DIY ferry (video):

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4245/35262785901_cdc203a91d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VJ3ZHg)
diy_ferry_fun (https://flic.kr/p/VJ3ZHg) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 26 June, 2017, 03:56:07 pm
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4238/35160598690_b19560effb_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Vz2g1N)
Leviathan.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 16 September, 2017, 06:11:35 pm
Frigate Sachsen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sachsen-class_frigate) in the harbour today.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4418/36425798954_28bce48a43_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XuPJYs)
IMG_9544_01 (https://flic.kr/p/XuPJYs) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4434/36425801574_e154b2b1a4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XuPKKC)
IMG_9545_01 (https://flic.kr/p/XuPKKC) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: CrinklyLion on 24 September, 2017, 07:56:19 pm
Not necessarily unusual, but interesting (to us at least) by virtue of who got to pilot....

(https://scontent.flhr2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21762230_10155514431856839_2511913044269324383_n.jpg?oh=f4dceccb76606422a692e238031a46b9&oe=5A4B0C74)

(https://scontent.flhr2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21762088_10155514434856839_8561259322664486585_n.jpg?oh=e502832601592f98cdba860728b4d908&oe=5A481A60)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: matthew on 24 September, 2017, 11:49:45 pm
Looks like the elder cub had a bit of a birthday treat.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: CrinklyLion on 24 September, 2017, 11:52:40 pm
Yup :)

Happy bday btw!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Wowbagger on 25 September, 2017, 12:26:00 am
The boaty type think that fell off its trailer on the A127 this afternoon, blocking the outside lane.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 12 November, 2017, 02:11:05 pm
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4531/24488575508_58b6cb7330_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DiYmk7)WP_20171103_15_16_42_Pro (https://flic.kr/p/DiYmk7) by mark tilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yo_stumpy/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4540/38359735901_1cfc17d23b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21rHF3V)WP_20171103_15_19_39_Pro (https://flic.kr/p/21rHF3V) by mark tilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yo_stumpy/), on Flickr

Spotted at Faversham creek. I am guessing, but it seems as if late Octobers very high tide, floated t onto the mud bank, but when tide went out it keeled over, damaging the keel and rudder, there was evidence of expanding foam around the rudder area, in a diagonal line, and there is a large bore pump hose going in thro the side. presumably its so far over that its filling up before it can float.  Chap standing in a small, boat as mud is just too soft, he was looking for something in the mud, a large bolt that he had dropped I think,and had a metal detector as well.
To make matters worse 50 yds upstream is a small 'outlet' from the adjacent poo treatment  works......nice!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 13 November, 2017, 11:17:10 am
Surely with a Blodwyn Pig present the lost bolt was easy to find?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 13 November, 2017, 02:13:50 pm
Surely with a Blodwyn Pig present the lost bolt was easy to find?

ah! I was with swmbo, and had my best....(ish) shoes on,  and was NOT abouut to dive into that cack. ::-) ;D
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: rogerzilla on 18 November, 2017, 11:42:16 am
Some vandals let all the water out of the Kennet and Avon canal near Thatcham a few years ago (this is actually quite hard to do, as most of that section is a canalised river, so, unless you can work the river sluices as well as the lock paddles, you have to drain a pound with no river ingress/egress between locks).  Luckily, narrowboats don't have a keel and will just sit in the mud.  A bit annoying, though.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 18 November, 2017, 04:47:11 pm
The Vikings have landed.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4530/38470788312_fcf441db3e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21BwR4E)
IMG_0063_01 (https://flic.kr/p/21BwR4E) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMS_Vædderen_(F359)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 18 February, 2018, 10:59:40 pm
The Vikings have not landed.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4623/39520804994_b148179ab4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23djsry)
IMG_0439_01 (https://flic.kr/p/23djsry) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Salvatore on 24 February, 2018, 11:40:42 am
It's unusual to see icebreakers on this part of the canal. Also kayaks with outriggers.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4749/26583817388_ea6268f913_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Gv81K7)
She made a loud crunchy noise while passing under the bridge I was on.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 24 February, 2018, 11:49:24 am
So unusual that the NSA has taken away the photo!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Vince on 24 February, 2018, 02:28:50 pm
The Vikings have not landed.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4623/39520804994_b148179ab4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23djsry)
IMG_0439_01 (https://flic.kr/p/23djsry) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
That is beautiful. Please tell us more.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Canardly on 24 February, 2018, 02:47:54 pm
Aunt Maud been up there?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 24 February, 2018, 06:57:30 pm
The Vikings have not landed.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4623/39520804994_b148179ab4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23djsry)
IMG_0439_01 (https://flic.kr/p/23djsry) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
That is beautiful. Please tell us more.

It's a burial ship that contained the bodies of two women. It's in the the Viking Ship museum in Oslo.

http://www.khm.uio.no/english/visit-us/viking-ship-museum/exhibitions/oseberg/
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: David Martin on 24 February, 2018, 07:37:58 pm
That museum is awesome - like a cathedral.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 26 February, 2018, 06:47:26 pm
I liked the cart that had loads of cats carved into the back of it.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4755/25360637667_8fce5fff39.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ED2U2z)IMG_0450_01 (https://flic.kr/p/ED2U2z) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4602/26359092608_7a50346606.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GageTW)IMG_0451_01 (https://flic.kr/p/GageTW) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Palinurus on 21 April, 2018, 08:57:35 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/wO2xkeK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/efmM0qr.jpg)

I didn't get a close look (wrong side of canal) but I really hope the tiller and throttle have been connected up to the car.

Saw it again the other day, it's been painted now.

(https://i.imgur.com/NCxgVOi.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 23 April, 2018, 09:17:34 am
That's brilliant!  Presumably the car is the boat's wheelhouse?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: cycleman on 23 April, 2018, 11:09:32 am
That's looking good now .It was unpainted when I last saw it about a year ago  :)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Palinurus on 23 April, 2018, 07:29:20 pm
That's brilliant!  Presumably the car is the boat's wheelhouse?

I can imagine it being reversed, driver with elbow and head out of window, left hand on the wheel (the interior of the Touran is still in place, steering wheel and all that)

I think it's at the other end though. Only now I'm replying to this I realise I'm not totally sure, perhaps I'll pootle off on the Elephant Bike and see if I can find it again next weekend, always need an excuse for a mini-tour.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Torslanda on 24 April, 2018, 09:07:22 am
Just goes to show that anything can be chavved up.

Barry Boys narrowboat, who'dathunk . . . ?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 07 May, 2018, 02:40:51 pm
Shoreham-by-Sea has some interesting houseboats, cobbled together from transportation that was never intended to float on water....
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4193/33839097363_2226615324_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TyfdHa) (https://flic.kr/p/TyfdHa)   (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurekb/)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4177/34263265720_8ecefddd83_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UcJcbG)IMG_1576 (https://flic.kr/p/UcJcbG)  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurekb/)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4157/34607881706_1ba1e21fe4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UJbrvC)IMG_1574 (https://flic.kr/p/UJbrvC) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurekb/)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Palinurus on 08 May, 2018, 07:57:19 am
That's brilliant!  Presumably the car is the boat's wheelhouse?

So I had a nice canal commute this morning and now I have the answer. The car is at the steering end but there's no rudder on the boat, it's attached to the narrowboat alongside it with scaffold poles and that one does the steering.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Palinurus on 08 May, 2018, 03:21:39 pm
Shoreham-by-Sea has some interesting houseboats, cobbled together from transportation that was never intended to float on water....

That beats my VW Touran on top of a barge any day.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 08 June, 2018, 10:51:48 pm
In Zeebrugge.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1728/27806131007_4379932a13_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Jn8FZR)
IMG_1053_01 (https://flic.kr/p/Jn8FZR) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 09 June, 2018, 01:12:04 pm
That looks quite similar to the one moored on The Medway in Strood

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1335/530248950_100ca461a0_z.jpg?zz&#x3D;1) (https://flic.kr/p/NRExh) (https://flic.kr/p/NRExh)  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurekb/)

ETA - That picture is from 2007 btw. These days it is more iron oxide, less black in colour. And jauntily listing to starboard.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 02 September, 2018, 06:39:10 am
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1886/43700011294_3d15a07d6c_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29zBYSA)
P9010334 (https://flic.kr/p/29zBYSA) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1872/42608281910_7713153325_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27V9zLb)
P9010338 (https://flic.kr/p/27V9zLb) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

The "George Black" - ferry across the Mighty Yukon at Dawson City YT

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1879/43700032004_23a7de448f_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29zC62E)
P9010340 (https://flic.kr/p/29zC62E) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1872/43700037854_b9ae5e1938_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29zC7Lw)
P9010342 (https://flic.kr/p/29zC7Lw) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1883/30549290628_1541fde85d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Nxx6Mo)
P9010343 (https://flic.kr/p/Nxx6Mo) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

SS Keno, one of two surviving Yukon stern-wheelers, now permanently on the bank of the Mighty Yukon in Dawson City.  They stopped running when the road reached Dawson City in 1955.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1884/43509131865_0e8f2c4b8a_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29hKF4X)
P9010341 (https://flic.kr/p/29hKF4X) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

The Klondike Spirit paddle steamer.  Tourist boat offering "overpriced and disappointing1" cruises on the Mighty Yukon from Dawson City

1: According to one TripAdvisor review, anyway.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 03 September, 2018, 04:02:40 am
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1890/29499842227_3ecf53d9b2_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LWNpkr)
P9020353 (https://flic.kr/p/LWNpkr) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1843/29499846627_e67efb56e8_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LWNqDi)
P9020354 (https://flic.kr/p/LWNqDi) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1880/43720206114_cfc0102432_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29Bpu69)
P9020355 (https://flic.kr/p/29Bpu69) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

SS Klondike (strictly speaking, SS Klondike II as the original ran aground and was cannibalised to build this one).  Big sister of yesterday's SS Keno - 64m long, 12.5m beam, 1m draught when fully loaded.  Being tended this morning by a splendidly piratical-looking chap with a big black beard and an eyepatch.  He looked a bit fierce so I didn't ask him where his parrot was.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 30 September, 2018, 07:47:34 pm
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1922/30076936527_e94e9023f1_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MPNana)IMG_0267 (https://flic.kr/p/MPNana) by mark tilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yo_stumpy/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1977/44293947304_06cd41ad6f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2au74mC)IMG_0266 (https://flic.kr/p/2au74mC) by mark tilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yo_stumpy/), on Flickr


Spotted in Honfleur harbour.   You must believe me, when I say this was far larger, ( I'd say its a least twice as large as you think it is) and so much more stunning in reality, photos just DO NoT do it justice.

Here it is. http://langskip.com/Langskip.COM/Home.html
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 30 September, 2018, 08:05:47 pm
That’s an amazing looking boat!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Panoramix on 30 September, 2018, 08:36:18 pm
It's beautiful but I wonder how you can get out of the cockpit to go on decg with the dodger in the way.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 18 March, 2019, 06:58:28 pm
On this morning's commute:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7810/47361434362_717e937674_b.jpg)
Lovely  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 March, 2019, 07:54:50 pm
Tis rather.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 18 March, 2019, 08:07:09 pm
Is that the Polish sail training ship ?

I should know this sort of stuff.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 18 March, 2019, 08:09:51 pm
Hmm, and the foresail yard isn't quite lined up. Sloppy.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 18 March, 2019, 08:10:51 pm
Yup.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
Not sure that I'd be wanting to be crewing a boat with you in charge, H.  ;)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 March, 2019, 08:13:01 pm
Yup.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
Shouldn't that be Dar Młodzieży? I guess it sounds the same though, so all okay.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 18 March, 2019, 08:17:21 pm
Yup.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
Shouldn't that be Dar Młodzieży? I guess it sounds the same though, so all okay.
Correct.
My keyboard struggles with Polak accents.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 March, 2019, 08:28:56 pm
Yup.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
Shouldn't that be Dar Młodzieży? I guess it sounds the same though, so all okay.
Correct.
My keyboard struggles with Polak accents.
I figured it was either keyboard or the kind of spello you make when you don't have to think about it. And people say phonetically spelled languages make writing easier!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 18 March, 2019, 08:33:55 pm
Yup.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
Not sure that I'd be wanting to be crewing a boat with you in charge, H.  ;)
In the words of my late father (Master Mariner), "There's two ways of doing a job - the wrong way and the right way."

The ship I was on the crew never needed any prompting to make her as ship-shape and as beautiful as possible in port. Point of honour for all concerned.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 18 March, 2019, 08:34:05 pm
Yup.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
Shouldn't that be Dar Młodzieży? I guess it sounds the same though, so all okay.
Correct.
My keyboard struggles with Polak accents.
I figured it was either keyboard or the kind of spello you make when you don't have to think about it. And people say phonetically spelled languages make writing easier!
It'd be easy enough to set up keys to write in Polak.
Truth of the matter is that it is something I do so rarely, it doesn't seem worth the bother.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 18 March, 2019, 08:35:29 pm
Yup.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
Not sure that I'd be wanting to be crewing a boat with you in charge, H.  ;)
In the words of my late father (Master Mariner), "There's two ways of doing a job - the wrong way and the right way."

The ship I was on the crew never needed any prompting to make her as ship-shape and as beautiful as possible in port. Point of honour for all concerned.
That's nothing other than admirable.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Tim Hall on 21 March, 2019, 07:19:11 am
Yup.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
Not sure that I'd be wanting to be crewing a boat with you in charge, H.  ;)
"The sort of people to be on a desert island with". The Friday Night ride as described by one hatler many years ago. Be careful what you wish for.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 21 March, 2019, 08:17:59 pm
Yup.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
Not sure that I'd be wanting to be crewing a boat with you in charge, H.  ;)
"The sort of people to be on a desert island with". The Friday Night ride as described by one hatler many years ago. Be careful what you wish for.
More than fair comment  :)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 29 May, 2019, 08:55:33 am
Ocean Atlantic (https://albatros-expeditions.com/ships/ocean-atlantic) just arrived in the harbour. They're not going to see many penguins here.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 26 June, 2019, 08:58:07 pm
This

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Brage_Viking_%2816913523872%29.jpg)

just rocked up in Lerwick harbour.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 29 June, 2019, 03:03:15 pm
This

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Brage_Viking_%2816913523872%29.jpg)

just rocked up in Lerwick harbour.
Camouflaged then?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 30 June, 2019, 10:28:35 am
Wot the blazes hav hapened there?  It's supposed to be an huge black and yellow Thing yclept Brage Viking (https://vikingsupply.com/vessel/brage-viking/3).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1930/31808629508_1762301463_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QsPxmG)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: ElyDave on 30 June, 2019, 12:40:41 pm
woss the problem?

Looks black and yellow and boaty from here.

Tip - they look bing in the harbour, they look tiny and frail when you're watching them bob up an down, from a platform halfway between Lerwick and Stavanger
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 30 June, 2019, 09:44:52 pm
woss the problem?

Looks black and yellow and boaty from here.

Tip - they look bing in the harbour, they look tiny and frail when you're watching them bob up an down, from a platform halfway between Lerwick and Stavanger

When I posted the original photo, it was of a big black and yellow Boaty Thing.  It subsequently changed into a swan, inna-ugly-duckling-stylee, before metamorphosing back.  Jurek saw it too, so it's not (just) me going mad :D
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 19 July, 2019, 07:24:31 pm
Fun and games at Canary Wharf a couple of hours ago.
These two were moving at a fair clip, the tug backwards, the cruise liner untethered to the tug, but following the line the tug carved out through the river at high tide.
I note that as they progressed upstream, a rope (sheet? - I've no idea what I'm talking about) conjoined the two, presumably because as the river narrows upstream, more dexterity of control is required.
The river.
Something new.
Every day.
I love my commute.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48323860156_1ddd5ca9b4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gCdq3G) (https://flic.kr/p/2gCdq3G)   (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurekb/)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 21 July, 2019, 09:44:30 pm
The bit between tug and ship I would call a line.

A sheet is a piece of rope used to control a sail.

I'm sure I read somewhere that the only rope on a sailing vessel is the bolt rope.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Vince on 22 July, 2019, 09:42:43 am
Possibly a warp?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: nicknack on 22 July, 2019, 01:00:35 pm
Spotted last Tuesday on the Medway by Hoo.
(https://images2.imgbox.com/c3/29/JOHRcCxX_o.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/JOHRcCxX)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 22 July, 2019, 07:36:59 pm
The bit between tug and ship I would call a line.

A sheet is a piece of rope used to control a sail.

I'm sure I read somewhere that the only rope on a sailing vessel is the bolt rope.
As ever, every day is a school day with you, Rob.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 06 August, 2019, 06:14:56 pm
The bit between tug and ship I would call a line.

A sheet is a piece of rope used to control a sail.

I'm sure I read somewhere that the only rope on a sailing vessel is the bolt rope.
The bell rope, I think.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Panoramix on 06 August, 2019, 08:58:37 pm
The bit between tug and ship I would call a line.

A sheet is a piece of rope used to control a sail.

I'm sure I read somewhere that the only rope on a sailing vessel is the bolt rope.
The bell rope, I think.

I don't know about British boats but on a French one, the only rope onboard is the bell rope.

On an English speaking boat if you don't know the correct name of a rope works out in which direction it pulls and call it :
Downfucker / upfucker / outboardfucker / inboardfucker
I works better with a strong French accent, people might look at you with a funny look but you stand a better chance of being understood in a timely manner.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 17 August, 2019, 07:44:31 pm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48546483221_71724545fe_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gXTq8p)IMG_0857 (https://flic.kr/p/2gXTq8p) by mark tilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yo_stumpy/), on Flickr

''Marco Polo'' en -route to Tilbury
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 17 August, 2019, 07:51:21 pm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48546483221_71724545fe_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gXTq8p)IMG_0857 (https://flic.kr/p/2gXTq8p) by mark tilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yo_stumpy/), on Flickr

''Marco Polo'' en -route to Tilbury
That's the cruise terminal in the background izznit?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 17 August, 2019, 09:50:41 pm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48546483221_71724545fe_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gXTq8p)IMG_0857 (https://flic.kr/p/2gXTq8p) by mark tilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yo_stumpy/), on Flickr

''Marco Polo'' en -route to Tilbury
Mrs hatler was onboard Marco Polo for an Icelandic cruise recently. As cruise ships go I think she's fairly pretty.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jaded on 17 August, 2019, 11:35:09 pm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48546483221_71724545fe_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gXTq8p)IMG_0857 (https://flic.kr/p/2gXTq8p) by mark tilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yo_stumpy/), on Flickr

''Marco Polo'' en -route to Tilbury
Mrs hatler was onboard Marco Polo for an Icelandic cruise recently. As cruise ships go I think she's fairly pretty.

This is the first time on YACF I’ve heard a spouse being compared to a cruise ship.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 18 August, 2019, 11:12:16 am
Helen of Troy joak goes here ==>
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Thor on 16 September, 2019, 04:50:44 pm
This little craft caught my eye, in Oulton Broad, Suffolk.

(https://i.ibb.co/1rX6D6S/XT1F6435.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/xsy8c1b/XT1F6434.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 18 September, 2019, 10:31:52 am
Standard pusher tug. Slightly odd in that she doesn't have many bollards visible.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Tim Hall on 13 October, 2019, 09:39:32 pm
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/03f8qon2uodzxld/IMG_20191013_151218527.jpg?raw=1)

It's (she's?) a proof of concept thing with various eco energy systems on board. 

More info here: http://www.energy-observer.org/actu/en/ (http://www.energy-observer.org/actu/en/)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jaded on 29 February, 2020, 06:04:25 pm
About to get closeup to this one

(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/HMS%20Prince%20of%20Wales%20Panorama.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 29 February, 2020, 07:06:11 pm
Wassat then ?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 29 February, 2020, 07:08:56 pm
Wassat then ?
'S a biggee.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: spesh on 01 March, 2020, 04:00:22 pm
Wassat then ?

It's the Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carrier HMS Prince of Wales.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 01 March, 2020, 04:02:51 pm
Handsome looking beast !
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: spesh on 01 March, 2020, 04:17:31 pm
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.

Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.

Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jaded on 01 March, 2020, 05:33:18 pm
I'm told it is slightly larger then the Queen Elizabeth, so is therefore the biggest ship ever for the Royal Navy.

more photos to follow...

AndrewC could pop down and see it...
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jaded on 01 March, 2020, 06:37:01 pm
Some photos


(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Mar%2001%202020%20P3010372.jpg)

We listen as
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Feb%2029%202020%20P2290051.jpg)

The Commander speaks
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Feb%2029%202020%20P2290044.jpg)

The Band of The Royal Marines
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Feb%2029%202020%20P2290101%202.jpg)

Some of the hanger...
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Feb%2029%202020%20P2290285.jpg)

...and behind me, a Chinook
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Feb%2029%202020%20P2290280.jpg)

A red thing and the Liver Building.
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Feb%2029%202020%20P2290293.jpg)


(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Feb%2029%202020%20P2290300.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 01 March, 2020, 07:28:35 pm
A red thing and the Liver Building.
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Feb%2029%202020%20P2290293.jpg)
We all live in a red submarine,
Red submarine, red submarine...
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: pcolbeck on 02 March, 2020, 08:11:48 am
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.

Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.

Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 02 March, 2020, 01:08:51 pm
But surely BRITAIN is just one big aircraft carrier*?  That's why Mr Orwell called it "Airstrip One".

* joke stolen from a B Mussolini of Rome, who claimed the same thing about Italy
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 02 March, 2020, 01:58:24 pm
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.

Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.

Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.

I'm not sure why we need any carriers at all.  Plenty of successful countries do without them and I'm sure the money could be well spent elsewhere, the NHS maybe?  I'm probably missing something big which justifies the expense.

But the tech is amazing and I'd love to have a look round one, I'm deeply envious of Jaded.  And those F35s are something else...
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 March, 2020, 03:21:18 pm
We need the aircraft carriers to defend our EMPIRE against the godless heathens and the heathless godons. Perhaps...
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 02 March, 2020, 03:51:59 pm
We need the aircraft carriers to defend our EMPIRE against the godless heathens and the heathless godons. Perhaps...

Ah yes, I knew I was missing something, the Empire... definitely needs defending!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: pcolbeck on 04 March, 2020, 01:23:34 pm
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.

Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.

Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.

I'm not sure why we need any carriers at all.  Plenty of successful countries do without them and I'm sure the money could be well spent elsewhere, the NHS maybe?  I'm probably missing something big which justifies the expense.


There is a valid argument for having none but if you do have them you should have three. Even more bonkers is France with one carrier. Most of the time it doesn't have any it can use as its being repaired.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 March, 2020, 03:27:10 pm
Yes, I see that, good point.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Panoramix on 05 March, 2020, 04:21:52 pm
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.

Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.

Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.

I'm not sure why we need any carriers at all.  Plenty of successful countries do without them and I'm sure the money could be well spent elsewhere, the NHS maybe?  I'm probably missing something big which justifies the expense.


There is a valid argument for having none but if you do have them you should have three. Even more bonkers is France with one carrier. Most of the time it doesn't have any it can use as its being repaired.

We have just one because we've changed our mind after building one (too expensive, you Brits decided that you would cooperate with the US rather than us as we were hoping).

Instead of building 2 new aircraft carriers, we built 3 of those :

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/FS_Mistral_01.jpg)

They proved useful to annoy to death Gaddafi but I wouldn't mind having Oscar's Dad as our ministre of defence though.

Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 March, 2020, 06:34:36 pm
France’s Minister of Defence?  I should be President of the Whole World!!!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Pingu on 05 March, 2020, 08:09:13 pm
It's worth a shot  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Salvatore on 10 November, 2020, 09:13:33 pm
I was a little envious of these two this morning

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50587546771_e8c983130b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k5fpdg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: james on 08 December, 2020, 09:15:52 pm
I didn't actually take the photos, but I did arrange it all and do the processing! A 360 tour of the steam boat that I help on: https://www.vic56.co.uk/Virtual-Tour (https://www.vic56.co.uk/Virtual-Tour).
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 09 December, 2020, 06:34:19 am
Brilliant!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 June, 2021, 11:32:19 pm
(https://scontent-lhr8-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/194951396_2887966684855855_4290216797195549193_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=0bO5Je8EV2kAX-HHN2o&tn=nIwxvDgjDv_RyhTz&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-2.xx&oh=d8c95239b4d41d1c80d0c2be4a8e36ff&oe=60DCCA5B)

Cycling home from my pal Penelope's this afternoon, I glanced to my left and saw this monstrosity. If it's midway between Southend and the Isle of Grain, which is the direct line from where I stand but it's too murky to be able to see, it must be about 3 miles from my vantage point in Ambleside Drive. The furthest building in shot is about half a mile away from me.

It's the HMM St. Petersburg, apparently, one of the same class of container ships as the the HMM Algericas, which is the largest in the world, and which also occasionally visits the Thames. Each holds somewhere in the region of 20,000 large containers.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 03 June, 2021, 06:12:40 am
London Gateway is a container port designed to accommodate the next (larger) generation of container ships that don’t exist yet. Currently three berths but designed to expand to six berths.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: nuttycyclist on 03 June, 2021, 07:33:59 am
Amazing, that ship is huge and it flies over houses.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Beardy on 03 June, 2021, 07:45:43 am
This picture proves that the earth is indeed flat.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: nobby on 03 June, 2021, 01:06:03 pm

Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.
Perhaps we will have a third when one gets worn enough to need a refit?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mzjo on 29 August, 2021, 07:35:05 pm
Taken in Henley (upon Thames) about 1989. It looks to me as if it ought to be pre-1914 but I'm no expert!
(https://i.imgur.com/D0qA6lm.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Salvatore on 04 October, 2021, 01:12:04 pm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4715/26532566908_1739319e47_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GqAkL9)

The wreck of the SS Camlough, which ran aground in Luce Bay in 1932 in a storm after her engine failed in the Irish Sea on a trip from Belfast to Birkenhead to collect coal to take back to Belfast. The Portpatrick lifeboat (coxwain John Campbell) saved the captain and crew. This picture is soon to be on display at the Mull of Galloway Lighthouse. It was taken in 2016, when storms had scoured the sand away to expose more of the wreck than usual. Last week all that was visible was a bit of metal about 3x5 cm poking out from the sand, just enough to stub your toe. Nearest the camera is the propeller shaft. In the distance was where the boiler would have been.

Fun fact: The Camlough's first voyages were to transport early strawberries from Brittany to Plymouth,  where they would be loaded onto special trains to be taken to London where they would be served at posh hotels and restaurants.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 04 October, 2021, 03:48:13 pm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51548892022_5e03650677_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mxcxEo)IMG_2049 (https://flic.kr/p/2mxcxEo) by mark tilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yo_stumpy/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Kim on 04 October, 2021, 08:15:19 pm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51548892022_5e03650677_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mxcxEo)IMG_2049 (https://flic.kr/p/2mxcxEo) by mark tilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yo_stumpy/), on Flickr

A hole in the mud just waiting for someone to pour money into it.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 October, 2021, 05:35:22 am
Stop it Kim, I'm seriously thinking of becoming a boatowner again, in fact I nearly bought one last week, and you'll put me off  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 13 January, 2022, 07:22:25 pm
The two happiest days in a boat owner's life ?

The day you buy her and the day you sell her.

I'm not sure I necessarily hold with that, but one of those two has just happened to me, which means I can line up the other one in short order. Huzzah !!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 14 January, 2022, 10:42:20 am
The two happiest days in a boat owner's life ?

The day you buy her and the day you sell her.

I'm not sure I necessarily hold with that, but one of those two has just happened to me, which means I can line up the other one in short order. Huzzah !!

We need details!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 14 January, 2022, 10:48:34 am
The two happiest days in a boat owner's life ?

The day you buy her and the day you sell her.

I'm not sure I necessarily hold with that, but one of those two has just happened to me, which means I can line up the other one in short order. Huzzah !!

We need details!
SOLD: Merlin Rocket 3545. A plastic NSM II. The last NSM II to be built (in 1996). Sold to a chap who wants to run it in the classic fleet. It's a good pond and river design (tacks well) but tends to dig deeper when the wind blows as opposed to skipping up on the plane. It takes weight well too (which the new owner needs).

Now on the lookout for an MR Winder Mk IV.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 14 January, 2022, 10:50:22 am
Cool!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 01 February, 2022, 09:59:07 am
Bingo !   MR 3675 has a new home.  Ticks all the boxes. String everywhere. ;)  Single string raking, spinny poles that are set by pulling a string (and not having to fight to get the hook into the eye on the mast), lots of other amazing rope trickery.

Photos to follow.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 01 February, 2022, 10:15:23 am
Bingo !   MR 3675 has a new home.  Ticks all the boxes. String everywhere. ;)  Single string raking, spinny poles that are set by pulling a string (and not having to fight to get the hook into the eye on the mast), lots of other amazing rope trickery.

Photos to follow.

Looking forward to the photos  :thumbsup:

Have you seen THESE VIDEOS? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yitwbMrB20&list=PLxZLbnIa1vVYtUdvTBNbDd5SSYS4ktUjF)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 01 February, 2022, 10:34:58 am
I hadn't. Thank you. V good.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 04 February, 2022, 10:03:02 am
Is this just a bizarre fuss about nothing - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60256966

(Bezos boat needs a bridge temporarily removed.)

Two odd things about this.

1  Why on earth can't they step the mast once the boat's through the bridge ?
2  Why are the locals getting so upset ?  They're not permanently removing the bridge, and some local people will do very well out of the work involved in the works. Seems like they are simply begrudging a bloke they'll never meet having a stack of cash to flash.

Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 04 February, 2022, 10:05:42 am
For a billionaire's yacht, it actually looks roughly like a yacht.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 04 February, 2022, 10:20:11 am
Check out this fella = https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/editorial-features/iconic-yacht-black-pearl
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 04 February, 2022, 10:38:56 am
Is this just a bizarre fuss about nothing - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60256966

(Bezos boat needs a bridge temporarily removed.)

Two odd things about this.

1  Why on earth can't they step the mast once the boat's through the bridge ?
2  Why are the locals getting so upset ?  They're not permanently removing the bridge, and some local people will do very well out of the work involved in the works. Seems like they are simply begrudging a bloke they'll never meet having a stack of cash to flash.

I suspect stepping masts that big will be huge job and the shipyard will want to use their own facilities to make sure the job goes smoothly.  Doing the job somewhere on the other side of the bridge away from the yard is probably judged to be too much of a PITA.  With a customer like Bezos I'm guessing you'll wanna get it right first time.

And yes, the more miserable and bitter cohort of the Rotterdam population are just pissed off a chap with lots of cash is perceived to be willy waving.  Even though I bet a fair proportion of those moaning are Amazon customers!

Nice looking boat BTW!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 04 February, 2022, 10:41:10 am
Check out this fella = https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/editorial-features/iconic-yacht-black-pearl

Beautiful and a very clever rig.  There's THIS ONE TOO (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_Falcon_(yacht)).
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 04 February, 2022, 11:37:08 am
Check out this fella = https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/editorial-features/iconic-yacht-black-pearl

Beautiful and a very clever rig.  There's THIS ONE TOO (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_Falcon_(yacht)).
Yup. That's pretty special, but there's no place for romantic climbing the rigging exploits, which does remove some of the allure.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: The Family Cyclist on 04 February, 2022, 11:45:27 am
Unfortunately none of my own pictures as they've been busy and haven't updated the website but for those who grew up reading or more in my case grew up (a bit) and read swallows and amazons might find the below interesting. My two girls and me got to sail her on Windemere last summer. It was bloody brilliant even if they enjoyed it so much I was demoted to being Roger and didn't get a chance to sail her myself.

https://www.sailransome.org/photos
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Kim on 04 February, 2022, 12:44:33 pm
Is this just a bizarre fuss about nothing - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60256966

(Bezos boat needs a bridge temporarily removed.)

Two odd things about this.

1  Why on earth can't they step the mast once the boat's through the bridge ?
2  Why are the locals getting so upset ?  They're not permanently removing the bridge, and some local people will do very well out of the work involved in the works. Seems like they are simply begrudging a bloke they'll never meet having a stack of cash to flash.

It also sounds an awful lot like they're using it as an opportunity to perform maintenance on the bridge at Bezos' expense...
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 04 February, 2022, 02:18:03 pm
Unfortunately none of my own pictures as they've been busy and haven't updated the website but for those who grew up reading or more in my case grew up (a bit) and read swallows and amazons might find the below interesting. My two girls and me got to sail her on Windemere last summer. It was bloody brilliant even if they enjoyed it so much I was demoted to being Roger and didn't get a chance to sail her myself.

https://www.sailransome.org/photos
That is splendid !!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 04 February, 2022, 02:18:23 pm
Is this just a bizarre fuss about nothing - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60256966

(Bezos boat needs a bridge temporarily removed.)

Two odd things about this.

1  Why on earth can't they step the mast once the boat's through the bridge ?
2  Why are the locals getting so upset ?  They're not permanently removing the bridge, and some local people will do very well out of the work involved in the works. Seems like they are simply begrudging a bloke they'll never meet having a stack of cash to flash.

It also sounds an awful lot like they're using it as an opportunity to perform maintenance on the bridge at Bezos' expense...
And who wouldn't ?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 04 February, 2022, 03:05:51 pm
Is this just a bizarre fuss about nothing - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60256966

(Bezos boat needs a bridge temporarily removed.)

Two odd things about this.

1  Why on earth can't they step the mast once the boat's through the bridge ?
2  Why are the locals getting so upset ?  They're not permanently removing the bridge, and some local people will do very well out of the work involved in the works. Seems like they are simply begrudging a bloke they'll never meet having a stack of cash to flash.

It also sounds an awful lot like they're using it as an opportunity to perform maintenance on the bridge at Bezos' expense...
And who wouldn't ?

The Rotterdam residents moaning clearly haven't read the memo from the local authority pointing out they can get a rich US bloke to pay for the maintenance of their beloved bridge.  I can imagine some Rotterdam city officials yelling "Just shut up with the moaning!"
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 04 February, 2022, 09:11:18 pm
Bingo !   MR 3675 has a new home.  Ticks all the boxes. String everywhere. ;)  Single string raking, spinny poles that are set by pulling a string (and not having to fight to get the hook into the eye on the mast), lots of other amazing rope trickery.

Photos to follow.

Looking forward to the photos  :thumbsup:

Have you seen THESE VIDEOS? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yitwbMrB20&list=PLxZLbnIa1vVYtUdvTBNbDd5SSYS4ktUjF)
Just finished the last one. Very good indeed. What a cool lad.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 04 February, 2022, 10:53:52 pm
Bingo !   MR 3675 has a new home.  Ticks all the boxes. String everywhere. ;)  Single string raking, spinny poles that are set by pulling a string (and not having to fight to get the hook into the eye on the mast), lots of other amazing rope trickery.

Photos to follow.

Looking forward to the photos  :thumbsup:
Not me, but this is the boat, taken at an open meeting at Whitstable in 2018.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51862720114_d865271c5c_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 February, 2022, 08:24:16 am
Bingo !   MR 3675 has a new home.  Ticks all the boxes. String everywhere. ;)  Single string raking, spinny poles that are set by pulling a string (and not having to fight to get the hook into the eye on the mast), lots of other amazing rope trickery.

Photos to follow.

Looking forward to the photos  :thumbsup:

Have you seen THESE VIDEOS? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yitwbMrB20&list=PLxZLbnIa1vVYtUdvTBNbDd5SSYS4ktUjF)
Just finished the last one. Very good indeed. What a cool lad.

Glad you enjoyed the videos.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 February, 2022, 08:24:55 am
Bingo !   MR 3675 has a new home.  Ticks all the boxes. String everywhere. ;)  Single string raking, spinny poles that are set by pulling a string (and not having to fight to get the hook into the eye on the mast), lots of other amazing rope trickery.

Photos to follow.

Looking forward to the photos  :thumbsup:
Not me, but this is the boat, taken at an open meeting at Whitstable in 2018.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51862720114_d865271c5c_c.jpg)

Nice  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 07 February, 2022, 05:23:36 pm
String ?? Which string?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51864185104_abf4330f85_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 07 February, 2022, 05:35:28 pm
Proves the contention that yatchs mainly exist to provide a safe breeding ground for ropes.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Kim on 07 February, 2022, 05:50:35 pm
Proves the contention that yatchs mainly exist to provide a safe breeding ground for ropes.

Having failed to duck on more than one occasion, I remain unconvinced by the 'safe'.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Feanor on 07 February, 2022, 05:54:49 pm
Proves the contention that yatchs mainly exist to provide a safe breeding ground for ropes.

Having failed to duck on more than one occasion, I remain unconvinced by the 'safe'.

Gybe-oh!
<Whack!>
Ah, yes. That can happen somtimes. Sorry!
Man overboard!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 February, 2022, 06:14:39 pm
String ?? Which string?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51864185104_abf4330f85_k.jpg)

Looks like a rocket machine.

I have a real hankering to get something a bit slower and more suited to the rough waters here. A drascombe dabber or similar. Boomless standing lug or something like that, with plenty of depth to the hull and rowable.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 07 February, 2022, 06:15:44 pm
Proves the contention that yatchs mainly exist to provide a safe breeding ground for ropes.

Having failed to duck on more than one occasion, I remain unconvinced by the 'safe'.

Were any ropes injured during the course of these incidents?

All I got from sailing was sunburned feet.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Kim on 07 February, 2022, 06:20:25 pm
Proves the contention that yatchs mainly exist to provide a safe breeding ground for ropes.

Having failed to duck on more than one occasion, I remain unconvinced by the 'safe'.

Were any ropes injured during the course of these incidents?

GPWM
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mzjo on 02 March, 2022, 09:52:44 am
Some shots of Gloucester docks as they were in the mid-80's (I would guess probably about 1984 but I can't remember). There was a festival of sailing boats which explains the presence of the two tall masted vessels. I would like to say this was before redevelopment but the truth is that redevelopment had been going on for quite a while already by the time of these shots. They are scans of the prints which have faded a bit. Some day I will scan my b&w negs, I liked taking a camera into the docks.
(https://i.imgur.com/PXfu4MJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pp9rgWn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8PMd4Ep.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 02 March, 2022, 10:02:37 am
Nice

Those are very tall.  I am full of admiration for the people whole did sail handling on them.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 March, 2022, 11:25:19 am
Maybe not 'before redevelopment' but nevertheless very empty – of people and boats – and somewhat warehousey compared to today.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 02 March, 2022, 11:49:28 am
Nice

Those are very tall.  I am full of admiration for the people whole did sail handling on them.
One of the highlights of my time aboard a square rigger was the 'set sail race'.

She was a brig, so two identically rigged masts.
There were two watches.
On the skipper's command to set all sail the two watches (fore and main) were responsible for setting all sail on their mast.
The winning watch (of five or six) was the team who got all their sails set (four per mast, no split topsails) and all of the watch back on deck.
The last one back on deck was the bod who let the gaskets go on the royal (the highest sail) and the quickest way back down to the deck was to slide down one of the royal mast's backstays, hand over hand, but if it was close....

("Harness ?"   Wassat then ?)
 
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 17 May, 2023, 11:46:00 am
I've bought a boat, I cannot express how excited I am.  Saturday will see me towing it back from it's current home in Wimbledon to Tollesbury Marina on The Blackwater.  The boat is very interesting with an interesting recent history, more details to follow...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52904367626_2cbbd51e1d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oAYHkq)

 (https://flic.kr/p/2oAYHkq)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 17 May, 2023, 12:44:31 pm
Gosh!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 17 May, 2023, 12:52:27 pm
Gosh!

Indeed. Cycling will be taking a back seat I’m afraid.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 17 May, 2023, 12:55:04 pm
Tollesbury !   What a lovely spot. Our kids learnt to swim properly in the pool there. The sheds (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.759572,0.848611,3a,75y,50.68h,91.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sqUqDKOuLmBlrUu8jjsm4Xw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DqUqDKOuLmBlrUu8jjsm4Xw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D60.32294%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656) on the left as you approach the marina entrance were (I think) used as sail lofts for a British America's Cup attempt.

And there's more than enough room onboard for a Brompton for when you get to where you're going.

Do check the trailer's tyre pressures before setting off.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 17 May, 2023, 01:04:10 pm
I’m all over tyres as it’s an issue with caravans too.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 19 May, 2023, 05:26:53 am
Tollesbury !   What a lovely spot. Our kids learnt to swim properly in the pool there. The sheds (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.759572,0.848611,3a,75y,50.68h,91.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sqUqDKOuLmBlrUu8jjsm4Xw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DqUqDKOuLmBlrUu8jjsm4Xw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D60.32294%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656) on the left as you approach the marina entrance were (I think) used as sail lofts for a British America's Cup attempt.

And there's more than enough room onboard for a Brompton for when you get to where you're going.

Do check the trailer's tyre pressures before setting off.

Sorry I didn't reply more fully, its been a busy week.

Yes Tollesbury is a lovely spot, we've been down there a few times and I've also bivvyed at Singlehead Point with some yacf chums.

I think you're right about the sheds, one is a tearooms now.  I'm pleased to get a berth there and at £1300 per annum it isn't ridiculously expensive.  I should be able to get over the cill 2 or 3 hours either side of high water.  Bradwell Marina is £2500, less tide restricted but further from home.  I could have had a swinging mooring at Blackwater Sailing Club which would have been a bit more than half the price of Tollesbury but I decided a marina was a better bet in my early days.

Not sure about the Brompton option  ;D  The boat does come with an 8 foot dinghy which I could tow if I thought I might need to get ashore from a mooring or anchor.

The current owner is super fastidious and has had the trailer on stands so there has been no pressure on the tyres so less risk of side wall cracking, a common problem with caravans which are left standing for long periods. 

The kit list which comes with the boat is ridiculously comprehensive so no surprise that I'm getting two trailer axles.  One quite new, recently serviced, never been dunked in water (the trailer has a break back), has brakes obviously and is the road going axle.  The second is much older, unbraked, not for road use has been wet so great for launching and recovering the boat and moving it around the hard, doesn't matter if it gets wet.  Once I have launched the boat I'll swap axles, apparently it isn't a difficult job, and keep the road going version in a nice dry condition.

Roll on tomorrow for the collection trip!
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 21 May, 2023, 09:30:32 pm
Yup. Getting to Bradwell is a bit of a pain.

BSC ?  My second home. Mrs hatler sort of grew up there. When we go back for Club Week every year she catches up with all her mates who were cadets at the same time as her. And all their children are cadets, who will hopefully be doing the same thing in 30 years' time.

But you're right. Early on a marina makes life significantly easier as you're never quite sure what you might need, and being able to pop back to the car is worth every penny.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 22 May, 2023, 05:42:05 am
Yup. Getting to Bradwell is a bit of a pain.

BSC ?  My second home. Mrs hatler sort of grew up there. When we go back for Club Week every year she catches up with all her mates who were cadets at the same time as her. And all their children are cadets, who will hopefully be doing the same thing in 30 years' time.

But you're right. Early on a marina makes life significantly easier as you're never quite sure what you might need, and being able to pop back to the car is worth every penny.

When you next come down to The Blackwater do let me know and we'll see if we can meet up if you'd like to. We've met before, a long time ago, on a few FNRttCs if you recall. 

Anyhow...
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 22 May, 2023, 06:42:39 am
Some details on the boat wot I have bought and now safely moved to Tollesbury.  First a dump of pictures taken by me and the previous owner.  I'll refer to the pictures in the text which follows:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52904367626_2cbbd51e1d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oAYHkq) (https://flic.kr/p/2oAYHkq)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52916358723_b685812c3b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oC3aSt) (https://flic.kr/p/2oC3aSt)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52916358733_0138bf7d71_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oC3aSD) (https://flic.kr/p/2oC3aSD)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52915320112_13551bdff4_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oBWR8o) (https://flic.kr/p/2oBWR8o)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52916055519_fadffd1298_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oC1BJP) (https://flic.kr/p/2oC1BJP)

I bought the boat off a delightful chap called David Hoskin, how in his 70s and a retired Royal Navy Commander.  As well as numerous sea miles in RN and US Navy vessels he has sailed the Atlantic three times, once west to east which is often a nasty crossing.  He has also rowed the Atlantic twice and with his team briefly held the world record (https://www.britishrowing.org/2011/02/team-hallin-a-world-record-and-a-marriage-proposal/).  Apparently a few hours after arriving another team which had set off after Team Hallin but crossed quicker claimed the record.

Back in early 2018 David bought Lou-Lou Belle, a 1974 Drascombe Longboat Cruiser.  The boat has previously been called Ellesse D and Birdie but David renamed it after his wife Louise who is equally delightful.  I shall keep the name as I like it and I have a few Louises in my life.  His intention was to sail it round the UK in aid of Combat Stress.  In his own words David never found anyone stupid enough to go with him so he was intending try singlehanded and if the weather held try to do the trip non-stop.

Through 2018/19 David embarked on an extensive refit and upgrade programme spending way more than I have paid for the boat.  Among other things he: repaired and repainted the whole boat (there are a couple of very minor cosmetic blemishes), Coppercoated the underside and centre plate which has been serviced, replaced the sails with R&J's (Drascombe specialist) most advanced designs (David chose their high peak gaff main although I'd of been tempted by their batten roached main), of course the genoa furler is new, fitted additional watertight compartments, fitted a full 12v system with solar, purchased a chart plotter, DSC AIS VHF, handheld VHF, NASA echo sounder, uprated the trailer, the 6HP outboard dates from 2012 but is in mint condition and serviced, bought and fitted a Raymarine Tiller Pilot, purchased a 8' Walker Bay dinghy and trolley.  There are numerous over mods and upgrades, the list is very long, I have it, it goes on for pages  ;D

The most bonkers bit of kit, and its shown in the photos in the raised position without wind vane, is one of these (https://windvaneselfsteering.co.uk/).  You buy a set of plans plus metal components and build your own.  Trouble is its too big for a Drascombe LBC so David meticulously scaled it down to two thirds and apparently it works like a dream.  I look forward to playing with it!

Tragically COVID lockdown, family commitments and recent ill health meant David never embarked on the trip and only managed 500nm of sea trials.  I hope in the years to come I'll do him and his work justice although I don't think I'll bother with a singlehanded non-stop UK circumnavigation!

I wasn't planning on buying a boat until next year when I turn 60.  I hope to start working 4 days a week (my employer isn't totally against the idea) so want to sail at least one day a week in the season.  But the opportunity to buy Lou-Lou Belle was too good to miss.  She won't see many miles this year as its The Current Mrs R's 50th and we already have many plans in flight.

On Saturday I towed Lou-Lou Belle back from Wimbledon, threading our way through London to the M25 was quite interesting.  She's now tucked up in Tollesbury Marina boat park.  Early next month David is kindly coming up to help rig her then she'll be launched.  Grey Sheep OTP has kindly offered to show us around the Blackwater Estuary and I'm acquiring skills like a VHF course and license and I also need to learn basic coastal navigation.  I'd also like to get some RYA tickets, not just a VHF certificate.

So that's the story so far!  The 13 year old me, who went on to spend far too many seasons sailing around a gravel pit in Maidenhead, Berkshire, who read all the books and dreamt so many day dreams would be over the moon with Lou-Lou Belle.  Back in the day I was a regular visitor to the London Boatshow and always made a bee line for Honnor Marine's stand to ogle the Drascombes and steal broachures.  Dreams do come true but sometimes you have to wait decades.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jurek on 22 May, 2023, 02:25:34 pm
It all looks very grand, Steve.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 22 May, 2023, 11:06:47 pm
Yup. Getting to Bradwell is a bit of a pain.

BSC ?  My second home. Mrs hatler sort of grew up there. When we go back for Club Week every year she catches up with all her mates who were cadets at the same time as her. And all their children are cadets, who will hopefully be doing the same thing in 30 years' time.

But you're right. Early on a marina makes life significantly easier as you're never quite sure what you might need, and being able to pop back to the car is worth every penny.

When you next come down to The Blackwater do let me know and we'll see if we can meet up if you'd like to. We've met before, a long time ago, on a few FNRttCs if you recall. 

Anyhow...
I do recall. Funny how moonlit encounters stick in the mind.

You're on. Club Week kicks off on Sunday 13th Aug and we will be around then. It'd be fun to show you round the club.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 22 May, 2023, 11:16:47 pm
I also just realised I hadn't posted a pic of the hatlers sailing the new boat. Here's a couple.

On the Thames
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52494594920_49863c3a7d_b.jpg)

Two from Stone SC last October
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52494406819_ae4986f125_k.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52494677058_4115ace175_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 23 May, 2023, 05:13:26 am
Yup. Getting to Bradwell is a bit of a pain.

BSC ?  My second home. Mrs hatler sort of grew up there. When we go back for Club Week every year she catches up with all her mates who were cadets at the same time as her. And all their children are cadets, who will hopefully be doing the same thing in 30 years' time.

But you're right. Early on a marina makes life significantly easier as you're never quite sure what you might need, and being able to pop back to the car is worth every penny.

When you next come down to The Blackwater do let me know and we'll see if we can meet up if you'd like to. We've met before, a long time ago, on a few FNRttCs if you recall. 

Anyhow...
I do recall. Funny how moonlit encounters stick in the mind.

You're on. Club Week kicks off on Sunday 13th Aug and we will be around then. It'd be fun to show you round the club.

3th August looks fine at present, Grey Sheep and tedshred OTP are also members and they might be around too, let's discuss nearer the time. 

You've got that MR going nicely  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 25 May, 2023, 05:06:15 pm
Drascombes are excellent boats. Yours has such an excellent history, I hope you can find time to do her justice.


MrsC has a hankering to get one (although I've pointed out to her that the lugger/cruiser aren't suitable for us, since they don't have lifting rudders).

We need to get a towhitch on the car.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 25 May, 2023, 08:55:26 pm
Drascombes are excellent boats. Yours has such an excellent history, I hope you can find time to do her justice.


MrsC has a hankering to get one (although I've pointed out to her that the lugger/cruiser aren't suitable for us, since they don't have lifting rudders).

We need to get a towhitch on the car.

Thanks for the kind words!

You can get kick up rudders but there’s still rudder under the boat unless you extract it fully. Mine has a hole in the blade so you can pull it up and pop a metal pin thru the hole and tiller sits vertically against the mizzen. This means there’s no rudder in the water but you don’t have the faff of extracting the whole thing.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 May, 2023, 05:28:11 pm
Drascombes are excellent boats. Yours has such an excellent history, I hope you can find time to do her justice.


MrsC has a hankering to get one (although I've pointed out to her that the lugger/cruiser aren't suitable for us, since they don't have lifting rudders).

We need to get a towhitch on the car.

Thanks for the kind words!

You can get kick up rudders but there’s still rudder under the boat unless you extract it fully. Mine has a hole in the blade so you can pull it up and pop a metal pin thru the hole and tiller sits vertically against the mizzen. This means there’s no rudder in the water but you don’t have the faff of extracting the whole thing.
Many of our desired sailing destinations are beaches (sandy or stony), gradually shelving. So being able to sail into shallow waters is pretty much a must.

Don't fancy doing that rudderless (although last time I did much dinghy sailing it was an Enterprise, with my 3 yr old - so I just held rudder amidships and steered with the sails.)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: hatler on 30 May, 2023, 06:11:11 pm
Rudderless dinghy sailing (oft-practised by the hatlers due to having a fixed blade rudder and launching into the Blackwater) is surprisingly easy, until it isn't.

Roughly, plate half up, and then a careful balance of heel and a handful of main (don't bother with the tail of the mainsheet, grab the lines as a whole coming directly from the boom).

It's all fine until you go too far off course, then it all gets a bit hairy.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 30 May, 2023, 08:28:09 pm
My Drascombe has a rowlock on the stern so you could steer with an oar or scull the boat. I shall be giving this a try.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: phil653 on 14 August, 2023, 08:33:59 pm
Does this count as interesting?

Built this 5.4m Grand Banks Dory from plans I adapted having downloaded them free from the interweb. Now learning to sail in it on our local reservoir. It's a lot of fun.  The plans are available from hannu's boatyard (https://hvartial.kapsi.fi/). The adaptation was to add in a dagger-board box, rudder and sailplan shamelessly nicked from CLC Boats 'Northeaster' dory (https://www.clcboats.com/images/pdfs/CLC-Northeaster-Dory-Lug-Addendum-Web.pdf). In the image I have the boom set a little too far forward because I forgot to rig the boom parrel, so the luff isn't quite vertical and might benefit from bringing the tack closer to the mast. This is hard to see once out on the water but easier to spot from the photo taken from the club RIB launch. The bow could do with a bit more ballast when singlehanding if I sit on the rear thwart. It sits more level in the water when a junior653 is aboard.

(https://i.imgur.com/6oOXCI0.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 August, 2023, 11:55:22 am
That is lovely and well done.

I'm surprised by how far forward you have your sail. Is it balanced like that, or does the bow tend to blow off?
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: phil653 on 16 August, 2023, 02:53:45 pm
The mast position pretty much determined itself given that the first frame on this, Hannu Vartiala's design, and the first frame on John Harris' CLC Northeaster coincided exactly, so similar are their basic dimensions.  John Harris prefers the simplicity of the balanced lug on many of his designs, and lug sailed boats, whether small craft or larger junks AKA Chinese lugs, usually have the mast well forward of where it would be on a bermudan rigged sloop or cutter. Harris placed the mast partner over the first frame, so so did I. Harris also inclines the mast backwards (whereas junks often incline their foremasts forward). Later research taught me that the Centre of Effort needs to be forward of the Centre of Lateral Resistance to avoid weather helm, but frankly while I can quote that, I have no real idea what it means. I am by no means a boat designer, although my father-in-law was a naval architect and in part I built this as a homage to honour his memory. I'm more of a wood butcher who got the idea into my head that perhaps I could build something that might float the right way up. And it does. What I have found out by trial and error is that it needed a much bigger rudder blade than I originally gave it, to respond to helm equally to both port and starboard, and therein lies part of the appeal of a home made wooden boat: you can tinker with the design ad infinitum, and not be too precious about it. I think we're on the fourth or fifth iteration of the rudder, and this version seems to work OK.

The specific position of the sail at the mast is determined by attaching the halyard at 35% along the yard, which is Jim Michalak's recommendation. As commented above, by forgetting to rig the boom parrel, or preventer, the tack is further forward than it should be, and also lets the boom move away from the mast.  Both are said to be a bad thing but I'm not yet experienced enough to tell how much difference it makes in practice.

Another part of the fun has been confounding the club instructors. I sail on the headwaters of the Alqueva reservoir on the Spanish-Portuguese border. It's about 100km long down the Rio Guadiana to the dam, with only the top 20km or so in both countries before it becomes wholly Portuguese. Nobody here knows lug rigs. All the fitments are homemade from DIY shop timbers and bits of rope and string from Lidl. The only shop-bought parts of the rig are two pulleys from Amazon for the main sheet, and one of those is redundant. The yard and boom are curtain poles salvaged from my former office. Much consternation and mystified comments when I was sailing downwind by-the-lee i.e. with the sail against the mast rather than let fully out on the other side. "That ought to be impossible - but it works!" my instructor was overheard to say, not knowing, it seems, that the boat heels far less that way. I was just experimenting and didn't know that either.

Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 August, 2023, 03:01:18 pm
I used to have a lugsail dinghy, a standing lug (so, very little of the boom forward of the mast).

It pointed much better than theory says it should.

Very controllable and versatile, and performed better in light winds than a bermudan rig (when tension taken out of the sail, so it had a considerable belly).

If I get a dinghy again, it will have either a standing or balanced lug. I'm not a fan of dipping lugs.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: phil653 on 16 August, 2023, 03:38:36 pm
I should confess that while everything else is homemade, the sail itself, of polytarp not sailcloth, I did get someone else to make for me. UV from our ferocious sun here means it has a limited lifespan, and I will probably end up making its replacement as the maker of the present sail has now retired and moved away.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: phil653 on 16 August, 2023, 07:18:38 pm
That is lovely and well done.

I'm surprised by how far forward you have your sail. Is it balanced like that, or does the bow tend to blow off?


The more I look at that pic I posted, the more I think you're on to something and that I misunderstood your question as being mast/hull relation not mast/sail. Ah, the folly of a little knowledge - a dangerous thing it is. My bad. I think I need to revise the way I rig the sail, maybe by moving the attachment point of the halyard forward a little on the boom, say at 30% of yard,  but more importantly shift the tackline/downhaul forward, and control the angle of the boom with the parrel/preventer so that the aft end of the boom is raised and the forward end protrudes less beyond the mast, placing less of the sail out front. Everything is adjustable with cords/ropes/leads/lines and other stringy thingies. Balanced lug rigs lend themselves to that kind of tuning. Every day's a school day...
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 17 August, 2023, 12:56:35 pm
That  is one of the things like about them; the best solution is using rope, not expensive proprietary shackles and cleats.

Allows for lots of adjustment.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 28 August, 2023, 12:54:13 am
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Dredger "Captain Meriwether Lewis", Brownville NB (https://flic.kr/p/2oYoARU) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

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Dredger "Captain Meriwether Lewis", Brownville NB (https://flic.kr/p/2oYoARD) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr

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Some other floaty thing, Brownville NB (https://flic.kr/p/2oYird7) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: JonBuoy on 23 September, 2023, 01:28:28 pm
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The chain ferry across the River Soar at Normanton on Soar doing battle with the floating pennywort.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 13 October, 2023, 03:29:56 pm
Lou-Lou Belle, my 1974 Drascombe Longboat Cruiser update:

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Suffice to say I'm lovin' it. We'll be catching the tide tomorrow afternoon for another sub-24 hour adventure.  I have taken to posting reels on Instagram and Facebook so if you'd like to join me onboard please look me up by searching "stevenwrowley" and I'll accept your connection request.
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 13 October, 2023, 04:36:25 pm
I'm envious. Looks great.

Sent you a follow request on Instagram, name of Alastairdent
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 13 October, 2023, 04:44:21 pm
I'm envious. Looks great.

Sent you a follow request on Instagram, name of Alastairdent

Thank you it is   :thumbsup:  I'm hoping to achieve 100nm by the time I yank her out.  I might get there this weekend.

I'm also 3 sessions in to my RYA Day Skipper Theory course (Maldon Little Ships Club) which is very good too. 
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jaded on 24 October, 2023, 06:23:09 pm
A Ukrainian minesweeper.

(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Chernihiv.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 24 October, 2023, 06:34:50 pm
TELL RODDY!
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Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: Jaded on 26 October, 2023, 04:54:38 pm
So, earlier there were the three RN training ships passing the Ukrainian Minesweeper. I didn't take a photo.

But I took one of this, the Tecla. I think I last saw it in 2019.

(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Tecla%202.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
Post by: JonBuoy on 09 February, 2024, 08:00:50 am
Last Friday they were recovering the narrowboat that had spent the previous month on its side across the bridge after the January floods.

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