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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #475 on: 07 February, 2022, 06:14:39 pm »
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Looks like a rocket machine.

I have a real hankering to get something a bit slower and more suited to the rough waters here. A drascombe dabber or similar. Boomless standing lug or something like that, with plenty of depth to the hull and rowable.
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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #476 on: 07 February, 2022, 06:15:44 pm »
Proves the contention that yatchs mainly exist to provide a safe breeding ground for ropes.

Having failed to duck on more than one occasion, I remain unconvinced by the 'safe'.

Were any ropes injured during the course of these incidents?

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #477 on: 07 February, 2022, 06:20:25 pm »
Proves the contention that yatchs mainly exist to provide a safe breeding ground for ropes.

Having failed to duck on more than one occasion, I remain unconvinced by the 'safe'.

Were any ropes injured during the course of these incidents?

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #478 on: 02 March, 2022, 09:52:44 am »
Some shots of Gloucester docks as they were in the mid-80's (I would guess probably about 1984 but I can't remember). There was a festival of sailing boats which explains the presence of the two tall masted vessels. I would like to say this was before redevelopment but the truth is that redevelopment had been going on for quite a while already by the time of these shots. They are scans of the prints which have faded a bit. Some day I will scan my b&w negs, I liked taking a camera into the docks.



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« Reply #479 on: 02 March, 2022, 10:02:37 am »
Nice

Those are very tall.  I am full of admiration for the people whole did sail handling on them.
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« Reply #480 on: 02 March, 2022, 11:25:19 am »
Maybe not 'before redevelopment' but nevertheless very empty – of people and boats – and somewhat warehousey compared to today.
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« Reply #481 on: 02 March, 2022, 11:49:28 am »
Nice

Those are very tall.  I am full of admiration for the people whole did sail handling on them.
One of the highlights of my time aboard a square rigger was the 'set sail race'.

She was a brig, so two identically rigged masts.
There were two watches.
On the skipper's command to set all sail the two watches (fore and main) were responsible for setting all sail on their mast.
The winning watch (of five or six) was the team who got all their sails set (four per mast, no split topsails) and all of the watch back on deck.
The last one back on deck was the bod who let the gaskets go on the royal (the highest sail) and the quickest way back down to the deck was to slide down one of the royal mast's backstays, hand over hand, but if it was close....

("Harness ?"   Wassat then ?)
 
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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #482 on: 17 May, 2023, 11:46:00 am »
I've bought a boat, I cannot express how excited I am.  Saturday will see me towing it back from it's current home in Wimbledon to Tollesbury Marina on The Blackwater.  The boat is very interesting with an interesting recent history, more details to follow...




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« Reply #483 on: 17 May, 2023, 12:44:31 pm »
Gosh!
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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #484 on: 17 May, 2023, 12:52:27 pm »
Gosh!

Indeed. Cycling will be taking a back seat I’m afraid.

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« Reply #485 on: 17 May, 2023, 12:55:04 pm »
Tollesbury !   What a lovely spot. Our kids learnt to swim properly in the pool there. The sheds on the left as you approach the marina entrance were (I think) used as sail lofts for a British America's Cup attempt.

And there's more than enough room onboard for a Brompton for when you get to where you're going.

Do check the trailer's tyre pressures before setting off.
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« Reply #486 on: 17 May, 2023, 01:04:10 pm »
I’m all over tyres as it’s an issue with caravans too.

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« Reply #487 on: 19 May, 2023, 05:26:53 am »
Tollesbury !   What a lovely spot. Our kids learnt to swim properly in the pool there. The sheds on the left as you approach the marina entrance were (I think) used as sail lofts for a British America's Cup attempt.

And there's more than enough room onboard for a Brompton for when you get to where you're going.

Do check the trailer's tyre pressures before setting off.

Sorry I didn't reply more fully, its been a busy week.

Yes Tollesbury is a lovely spot, we've been down there a few times and I've also bivvyed at Singlehead Point with some yacf chums.

I think you're right about the sheds, one is a tearooms now.  I'm pleased to get a berth there and at £1300 per annum it isn't ridiculously expensive.  I should be able to get over the cill 2 or 3 hours either side of high water.  Bradwell Marina is £2500, less tide restricted but further from home.  I could have had a swinging mooring at Blackwater Sailing Club which would have been a bit more than half the price of Tollesbury but I decided a marina was a better bet in my early days.

Not sure about the Brompton option  ;D  The boat does come with an 8 foot dinghy which I could tow if I thought I might need to get ashore from a mooring or anchor.

The current owner is super fastidious and has had the trailer on stands so there has been no pressure on the tyres so less risk of side wall cracking, a common problem with caravans which are left standing for long periods. 

The kit list which comes with the boat is ridiculously comprehensive so no surprise that I'm getting two trailer axles.  One quite new, recently serviced, never been dunked in water (the trailer has a break back), has brakes obviously and is the road going axle.  The second is much older, unbraked, not for road use has been wet so great for launching and recovering the boat and moving it around the hard, doesn't matter if it gets wet.  Once I have launched the boat I'll swap axles, apparently it isn't a difficult job, and keep the road going version in a nice dry condition.

Roll on tomorrow for the collection trip!

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« Reply #488 on: 21 May, 2023, 09:30:32 pm »
Yup. Getting to Bradwell is a bit of a pain.

BSC ?  My second home. Mrs hatler sort of grew up there. When we go back for Club Week every year she catches up with all her mates who were cadets at the same time as her. And all their children are cadets, who will hopefully be doing the same thing in 30 years' time.

But you're right. Early on a marina makes life significantly easier as you're never quite sure what you might need, and being able to pop back to the car is worth every penny.
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« Reply #489 on: 22 May, 2023, 05:42:05 am »
Yup. Getting to Bradwell is a bit of a pain.

BSC ?  My second home. Mrs hatler sort of grew up there. When we go back for Club Week every year she catches up with all her mates who were cadets at the same time as her. And all their children are cadets, who will hopefully be doing the same thing in 30 years' time.

But you're right. Early on a marina makes life significantly easier as you're never quite sure what you might need, and being able to pop back to the car is worth every penny.

When you next come down to The Blackwater do let me know and we'll see if we can meet up if you'd like to. We've met before, a long time ago, on a few FNRttCs if you recall. 

Anyhow...

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #490 on: 22 May, 2023, 06:42:39 am »
Some details on the boat wot I have bought and now safely moved to Tollesbury.  First a dump of pictures taken by me and the previous owner.  I'll refer to the pictures in the text which follows:







I bought the boat off a delightful chap called David Hoskin, how in his 70s and a retired Royal Navy Commander.  As well as numerous sea miles in RN and US Navy vessels he has sailed the Atlantic three times, once west to east which is often a nasty crossing.  He has also rowed the Atlantic twice and with his team briefly held the world record.  Apparently a few hours after arriving another team which had set off after Team Hallin but crossed quicker claimed the record.

Back in early 2018 David bought Lou-Lou Belle, a 1974 Drascombe Longboat Cruiser.  The boat has previously been called Ellesse D and Birdie but David renamed it after his wife Louise who is equally delightful.  I shall keep the name as I like it and I have a few Louises in my life.  His intention was to sail it round the UK in aid of Combat Stress.  In his own words David never found anyone stupid enough to go with him so he was intending try singlehanded and if the weather held try to do the trip non-stop.

Through 2018/19 David embarked on an extensive refit and upgrade programme spending way more than I have paid for the boat.  Among other things he: repaired and repainted the whole boat (there are a couple of very minor cosmetic blemishes), Coppercoated the underside and centre plate which has been serviced, replaced the sails with R&J's (Drascombe specialist) most advanced designs (David chose their high peak gaff main although I'd of been tempted by their batten roached main), of course the genoa furler is new, fitted additional watertight compartments, fitted a full 12v system with solar, purchased a chart plotter, DSC AIS VHF, handheld VHF, NASA echo sounder, uprated the trailer, the 6HP outboard dates from 2012 but is in mint condition and serviced, bought and fitted a Raymarine Tiller Pilot, purchased a 8' Walker Bay dinghy and trolley.  There are numerous over mods and upgrades, the list is very long, I have it, it goes on for pages  ;D

The most bonkers bit of kit, and its shown in the photos in the raised position without wind vane, is one of these.  You buy a set of plans plus metal components and build your own.  Trouble is its too big for a Drascombe LBC so David meticulously scaled it down to two thirds and apparently it works like a dream.  I look forward to playing with it!

Tragically COVID lockdown, family commitments and recent ill health meant David never embarked on the trip and only managed 500nm of sea trials.  I hope in the years to come I'll do him and his work justice although I don't think I'll bother with a singlehanded non-stop UK circumnavigation!

I wasn't planning on buying a boat until next year when I turn 60.  I hope to start working 4 days a week (my employer isn't totally against the idea) so want to sail at least one day a week in the season.  But the opportunity to buy Lou-Lou Belle was too good to miss.  She won't see many miles this year as its The Current Mrs R's 50th and we already have many plans in flight.

On Saturday I towed Lou-Lou Belle back from Wimbledon, threading our way through London to the M25 was quite interesting.  She's now tucked up in Tollesbury Marina boat park.  Early next month David is kindly coming up to help rig her then she'll be launched.  Grey Sheep OTP has kindly offered to show us around the Blackwater Estuary and I'm acquiring skills like a VHF course and license and I also need to learn basic coastal navigation.  I'd also like to get some RYA tickets, not just a VHF certificate.

So that's the story so far!  The 13 year old me, who went on to spend far too many seasons sailing around a gravel pit in Maidenhead, Berkshire, who read all the books and dreamt so many day dreams would be over the moon with Lou-Lou Belle.  Back in the day I was a regular visitor to the London Boatshow and always made a bee line for Honnor Marine's stand to ogle the Drascombes and steal broachures.  Dreams do come true but sometimes you have to wait decades.

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« Reply #491 on: 22 May, 2023, 02:25:34 pm »
It all looks very grand, Steve.  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #492 on: 22 May, 2023, 11:06:47 pm »
Yup. Getting to Bradwell is a bit of a pain.

BSC ?  My second home. Mrs hatler sort of grew up there. When we go back for Club Week every year she catches up with all her mates who were cadets at the same time as her. And all their children are cadets, who will hopefully be doing the same thing in 30 years' time.

But you're right. Early on a marina makes life significantly easier as you're never quite sure what you might need, and being able to pop back to the car is worth every penny.

When you next come down to The Blackwater do let me know and we'll see if we can meet up if you'd like to. We've met before, a long time ago, on a few FNRttCs if you recall. 

Anyhow...
I do recall. Funny how moonlit encounters stick in the mind.

You're on. Club Week kicks off on Sunday 13th Aug and we will be around then. It'd be fun to show you round the club.
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« Reply #493 on: 22 May, 2023, 11:16:47 pm »
I also just realised I hadn't posted a pic of the hatlers sailing the new boat. Here's a couple.

On the Thames


Two from Stone SC last October


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« Reply #494 on: 23 May, 2023, 05:13:26 am »
Yup. Getting to Bradwell is a bit of a pain.

BSC ?  My second home. Mrs hatler sort of grew up there. When we go back for Club Week every year she catches up with all her mates who were cadets at the same time as her. And all their children are cadets, who will hopefully be doing the same thing in 30 years' time.

But you're right. Early on a marina makes life significantly easier as you're never quite sure what you might need, and being able to pop back to the car is worth every penny.

When you next come down to The Blackwater do let me know and we'll see if we can meet up if you'd like to. We've met before, a long time ago, on a few FNRttCs if you recall. 

Anyhow...
I do recall. Funny how moonlit encounters stick in the mind.

You're on. Club Week kicks off on Sunday 13th Aug and we will be around then. It'd be fun to show you round the club.

3th August looks fine at present, Grey Sheep and tedshred OTP are also members and they might be around too, let's discuss nearer the time. 

You've got that MR going nicely  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #495 on: 25 May, 2023, 05:06:15 pm »
Drascombes are excellent boats. Yours has such an excellent history, I hope you can find time to do her justice.


MrsC has a hankering to get one (although I've pointed out to her that the lugger/cruiser aren't suitable for us, since they don't have lifting rudders).

We need to get a towhitch on the car.
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« Reply #496 on: 25 May, 2023, 08:55:26 pm »
Drascombes are excellent boats. Yours has such an excellent history, I hope you can find time to do her justice.


MrsC has a hankering to get one (although I've pointed out to her that the lugger/cruiser aren't suitable for us, since they don't have lifting rudders).

We need to get a towhitch on the car.

Thanks for the kind words!

You can get kick up rudders but there’s still rudder under the boat unless you extract it fully. Mine has a hole in the blade so you can pull it up and pop a metal pin thru the hole and tiller sits vertically against the mizzen. This means there’s no rudder in the water but you don’t have the faff of extracting the whole thing.

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« Reply #497 on: 30 May, 2023, 05:28:11 pm »
Drascombes are excellent boats. Yours has such an excellent history, I hope you can find time to do her justice.


MrsC has a hankering to get one (although I've pointed out to her that the lugger/cruiser aren't suitable for us, since they don't have lifting rudders).

We need to get a towhitch on the car.

Thanks for the kind words!

You can get kick up rudders but there’s still rudder under the boat unless you extract it fully. Mine has a hole in the blade so you can pull it up and pop a metal pin thru the hole and tiller sits vertically against the mizzen. This means there’s no rudder in the water but you don’t have the faff of extracting the whole thing.
Many of our desired sailing destinations are beaches (sandy or stony), gradually shelving. So being able to sail into shallow waters is pretty much a must.

Don't fancy doing that rudderless (although last time I did much dinghy sailing it was an Enterprise, with my 3 yr old - so I just held rudder amidships and steered with the sails.)
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« Reply #498 on: 30 May, 2023, 06:11:11 pm »
Rudderless dinghy sailing (oft-practised by the hatlers due to having a fixed blade rudder and launching into the Blackwater) is surprisingly easy, until it isn't.

Roughly, plate half up, and then a careful balance of heel and a handful of main (don't bother with the tail of the mainsheet, grab the lines as a whole coming directly from the boom).

It's all fine until you go too far off course, then it all gets a bit hairy.
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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #499 on: 30 May, 2023, 08:28:09 pm »
My Drascombe has a rowlock on the stern so you could steer with an oar or scull the boat. I shall be giving this a try.