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Urgent grammar help plz
« on: 18 December, 2009, 12:55:12 pm »
When talking about two workers, which is correct:

"Keep abreast of each others' work" or
 
"Keep abreast of each other's work"?

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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #1 on: 18 December, 2009, 12:55:54 pm »
I would have thought the latter?

Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #2 on: 18 December, 2009, 12:59:36 pm »
Others'.  Cos it's plural.

Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #3 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:01:00 pm »
The second I would say. It's a possessive "s" attached to the singular "other". There is only one "other" relative to each of the two workers. If there were more than two workers it would have been "one another" rather than "each other" anyway.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #4 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:01:16 pm »
' shows possession, in this case the work of the other.

Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #5 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:01:38 pm »
Others'.  Cos it's plural.

No it's not :)
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #6 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:02:33 pm »
If it's only two you could do "keep abreast of *the* other's work", and avoid confusion, but not for more than two.
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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #7 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:07:50 pm »
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« Reply #8 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:09:04 pm »
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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #9 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:12:30 pm »

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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #10 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:13:28 pm »
If it's only two you could do "keep abreast of *the* other's work", and avoid confusion, but not for more than two.

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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #11 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:19:20 pm »
It could be either.  

The two workers might each need to keep abreast of the work of the other worker (assuming there were only two workers altogether) or both workers might need to keep abreast of the work of the other workers (assuming the 2 workers were working with other workers as well).  


  
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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #12 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:31:34 pm »
How many English teachers' does it take to change a light bulb's?

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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #13 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:33:58 pm »
A light bulb's what?
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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #14 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:34:52 pm »
 A light bulb's Watt.
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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #15 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:36:39 pm »
A light bulb's watt

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« Reply #16 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:39:17 pm »
we're not helping much are we? :P

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« Reply #17 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:41:05 pm »
A light bulb's watt

 if we're given free rein to be pedantic ;)

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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #18 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:43:33 pm »
Others'.  Cos it's plural.

No it's not :)

I know what you mean, but "each other's" seems completely wrong! You could re-write it as "one another's", and avoid the whole mess altogether.

No-on'll notice anyway.  We've had an e-mail at work today which made me twitch a little:

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Please note due to the severe weather conditions outside there will be a limited breakfast service being provided by both cafe's on site today.

This is due to the daily delivery being held up on the roads due to the snow, clearly this problem is out-with anyone's control so I would be grateful if you can bare this in mind if you choose to use the catering facilities today.

Please do not reply back to this email.

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« Reply #19 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:50:40 pm »
... No-on'll notice anyway.  We've had an e-mail at work today which made me twitch a little:

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Please note due to the severe weather conditions outside there will be a limited breakfast service being provided by both cafe's on site today.

This is due to the daily delivery being held up on the roads due to the snow, clearly this problem is out-with anyone's control so I would be grateful if you can bare this in mind if you choose to use the catering facilities today.

Please do not reply back to this email.

...however badly written it is. :-\

Outwith is apparently a Scottish and North England colloquialism, but I think outside works better (and I'm not sure what the hyphen is doing there).
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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #20 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:52:09 pm »
"out-with"
one of my pet hate grammar sins.
No one says "outwith the fringe " do they :(
Use the word "beyond" FFS.
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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #21 on: 18 December, 2009, 01:54:24 pm »
"There is a green hill far away, without a city wall"

as a very young Volio I used to wonder how many hills had a city wall - and why this one's lack was worth noting :)

Looking on t'internets I see that it's sometimes written as outwith or outside.

Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #22 on: 18 December, 2009, 02:19:44 pm »
Very Pterry Pratchett:

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There is a knocking without.

Without what?  Is this some sort of Zen thing?

(I think Shakespeare and others may have been there earlier!)
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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #23 on: 18 December, 2009, 02:23:44 pm »
Fnarr!

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Re: Urgent grammar help plz
« Reply #24 on: 18 December, 2009, 05:11:59 pm »
"out-with"
one of my pet hate grammar sins.
No one says "outwith the fringe " do they :(
Use the word "beyond" FFS.

To my mind those would be two different statements...  I'm from Scotland though, so it's been in my vocabulary since I was a wee bairn -- I never realised it is a regional usage...