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mr ben

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ICE Sprint
« on: 10 February, 2024, 07:28:29 pm »
I'm going to look at a second hand 2016 ICE Sprint tomorrow.  Anything in particular that I should look out for?
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Kim

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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #1 on: 10 February, 2024, 07:42:41 pm »
Notchy headsets and play in the track-rod ends are normal wear and tear (ICE can supply the parts, but factor them in if they need doing).

Similarly chain tubes (especially that rubbery bit that facilitates the fold, which seems quite vulnerable to damage when the trike's in the folded state).

Take the seat off and make sure there isn't damage to the seat frame and/or the lower thingy it rests on (if the rear end isn't straight in the cruciform, the seat takes the stress), and have a look at the main fold hinge while you're there (I don't think these are a particular problem, but it could be expensive if it needs replacing).

Check the underside of the cruciform for damage from scraping on kerbs or whatever.

Fabric seat, obviously.

I think beyond that it's normal bicycle stuff.  Oh, if it's got a 20" rear wheel with a Capreo hub (derailleur gears that go down to a 9t sprocket), I think those have been discontinued.  Not an insurmountable problem.

LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #2 on: 11 February, 2024, 12:12:46 am »
You can get Sunrace Capreo-compatible 9sp cassettes from Moulton.
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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #3 on: 11 February, 2024, 02:04:04 am »
With perfect tracking both front tyres will wear the same.
So any difference in the wear pattern between the front tyres could mean tracking is out.

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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #4 on: 11 February, 2024, 02:12:36 am »
Good point.  For reference, adjusting the tracking is a faff, but not particularly difficult.  ICE have helpful videos on this sort of thing.

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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #5 on: 11 February, 2024, 09:29:59 am »
Fantastic, thanks for the pointers. :thumbsup:
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mr ben

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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #6 on: 11 February, 2024, 06:39:19 pm »
It seemed both well used and well looked after, seller said only the front wheels and frame are original.  Seemed reasonable condition for its age and lifestyle ;D.  I am hoping to take delivery later this week...exciting times! In entirely unrelated news there will be a two wheeled 'bent for sale in the very near future.
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ElyDave

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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #7 on: 11 February, 2024, 08:12:24 pm »
Excellent news, I always wonder if I could be just as quick on a modern ice VTX or big wheeled sprint. Will be interested to see how you get on
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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #8 on: 11 February, 2024, 09:51:22 pm »
It seemed both well used and well looked after, seller said only the front wheels and frame are original.  Seemed reasonable condition for its age and lifestyle ;D.  I am hoping to take delivery later this week...exciting times! In entirely unrelated news there will be a two wheeled 'bent for sale in the very near future.

What flavour 'bent might that be perchance?

EDIT. Ah, it’s that Bachetta cafe racer?      Wouldn’t mind a Bachetta Giro 26 ATT in Large thobut.

mr ben

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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #9 on: 12 February, 2024, 02:11:47 pm »
^ Correct!
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mr ben

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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #10 on: 18 February, 2024, 12:38:50 pm »
Boom and chain length adjusted yesterday, and just back from our maiden voyage.  I only have a tiny crap mirror at the moment so I was cautious and did an anticlockwise loop so I would only have to turn left. ;D



Got friendly-beeped at once, and generally was passed with pleasant distance. It's a bit disconcerting being low down right next to the front of a large van, but I'm sure you'd be just as destroyed on an upright if said van decided to drive at you.

The gearing seems quite high, but I will see how I get on, that may just be beginners' legs (the guy I bought it from lives in Lincolnshire and I am in Leeds...).  Now trying to work out the Mounting of Stuff, for which I will peruse these pages and then probably bug you all with questions.
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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #11 on: 18 February, 2024, 05:36:27 pm »
Looks great, you will have to give me a performance comparison on the same ride vs you on an upwrong in similar conditions
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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #12 on: 18 February, 2024, 06:19:56 pm »
Trikes are slower up hills but can be geared nice and low for minimum effort climbing. If you push the peddles round faster then comfortable you gain little speed and more discomfort. Relax and enjoy seeing more  :)
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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #13 on: 18 February, 2024, 10:20:05 pm »
I know I'm roughly equal on two wheels bent vs upwrong, just a matter of effort vs speed. I'm interested in performance/speed/comfort triangle
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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #14 on: 19 February, 2024, 08:16:34 am »
I find that not having to balance means I am more relaxed with the risk of falling off removed. The extra wheel and weight does mean slower climbing and a few restrictions on routes..to be honest there is not a I cannot get through  :)
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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #15 on: 19 February, 2024, 12:51:36 pm »
IME barkata's ICE Sprint climbs just as well as my other bikes given approximately equivalent weight.  It's the extra rolling resistance that gets you.  OTOH, there is an aerodynamic advantage compared to an upright (my gut feeling is this comes mainly from being low down and sheltered from the wind, rather than less drag).

But the dominating factor seems to be psychological.  I find I ride it less hard unless I'm paying attention.

Tyres make a big difference to how well it rolls and what it feels like on crap surfaces.

mr ben

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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #16 on: 19 February, 2024, 01:01:13 pm »
Looks great, you will have to give me a performance comparison on the same ride vs you on an upwrong in similar conditions

I'll have to do some SCIENCE and see how it goes.  I can see that downhill speed will be a matter of confidence.
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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #17 on: 19 February, 2024, 01:07:20 pm »
Looks great, you will have to give me a performance comparison on the same ride vs you on an upwrong in similar conditions

I'll have to do some SCIENCE and see how it goes.  I can see that downhill speed will be a matter of confidence.

Downhill's fine unless the road surface is particularly cratered.  Superior braking, relative immunity to skidding and not feeling like you're going to land on your face are all confidence-building.  It's cornering at speed that takes practice.

Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #18 on: 19 February, 2024, 01:52:52 pm »
I like the look with the hard shell seat. I had a Sprint 26 with the ergo-flow mesh but the hard shell looks better.

Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #19 on: 19 February, 2024, 06:38:03 pm »
OTOH, there is an aerodynamic advantage compared to an upright (my gut feeling is this comes mainly from being low down and sheltered from the wind, rather than less drag).

Not just sheltered but wind speeds are slower the closer you are to the ground. Unless it’s a tornado ….

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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #20 on: 19 February, 2024, 07:02:30 pm »
The boundary effect, yes.

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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #21 on: 19 February, 2024, 07:12:25 pm »
OTOH, there is an aerodynamic advantage compared to an upright (my gut feeling is this comes mainly from being low down and sheltered from the wind, rather than less drag).

Not just sheltered but wind speeds are slower the closer you are to the ground. Unless it’s a tornado ….
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ElyDave

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Re: ICE Sprint
« Reply #22 on: 19 February, 2024, 07:43:53 pm »
OTOH, there is an aerodynamic advantage compared to an upright (my gut feeling is this comes mainly from being low down and sheltered from the wind, rather than less drag).

Not just sheltered but wind speeds are slower the closer you are to the ground. Unless it’s a tornado ….
Should all darksiders be called Dorothy?

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