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Random Musings => Miscellany => Grow Your Own => Topic started by: andyoxon on 26 March, 2020, 04:36:37 pm

Title: Growing from seeds...
Post by: andyoxon on 26 March, 2020, 04:36:37 pm
Anyone have experience of using 'out of date' seed from those packets of commercial seeds.  e.g. Moneymaker tomato seed from 2014   :)

Is it a case of may germinate, but not optimally..?
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: SteveC on 26 March, 2020, 05:04:06 pm
Pretty well, yes.
What have you got to lose? Give them a go, but don't expect stunning results.
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: Ham on 26 March, 2020, 05:48:21 pm
A lot will depend on how you stored them, but as SteveC says, give it a try, why not.
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: andyoxon on 26 March, 2020, 10:30:23 pm
Thanks.

Planted tomatoes, parsely, and two types of chilli, in covered indoor germinating trays, so will see what happens...

ETA. and mustard & cress.  All out of date.
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: The Family Cyclist on 27 March, 2020, 08:48:32 am
I think it varies massively but crop. IIRC parsnip don't last very well but some do better. If you can I think they recommended putting some on damp kitchen roll and seeing if anything happens
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: ElyDave on 27 March, 2020, 09:59:33 pm
yes, parsnip in particular need to be fairly fresh, >2 years and it's pretty poor germination

I bought quite a lot of new seed this year and have >90% so far.
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: jiberjaber on 27 March, 2020, 10:20:15 pm
A timely thread, mine are 2007 vintage...
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: andyoxon on 07 April, 2020, 12:49:15 pm
Update. 

6 yro tomato seeds: germinating fine  :thumbsup:  Some potted on.
No visible chilli or parsley activity yet...
old Mustard & cress failed
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: caerau on 07 April, 2020, 02:39:21 pm
Cool.


Next time grow something tastier than Moneymaker - they've got to be the worst of the ones you can grow yourself - in my opinion  ;)
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: T42 on 07 April, 2020, 03:51:06 pm
Update. 

6 yro tomato seeds: germinating fine  :thumbsup:  Some potted on.


Considering that they go right through the bowel and out t'other end...
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: jiberjaber on 07 April, 2020, 05:37:26 pm
Out of my 2007 seeds I have Cherry and Moneymaker toms plus chilli and leeks germinated from a soaked kitchen paper test of 10 seeds of each. 

No shows were the Broccoli Beetroot, Cabbage, sprouts and peppers.

Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: ElyDave on 22 April, 2020, 08:16:56 am
3 year old french bean - 20% germination
this year's runner bean - 90% germination

The only older seed I've had good success with this year is red chard
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: rafletcher on 22 April, 2020, 09:04:19 pm
Update. 

6 yro tomato seeds: germinating fine  :thumbsup:  Some potted on.
No visible chilli or parsley activity yet...
old Mustard & cress failed

Both chilli and parsley benefit from warmth - if you have an airing cupboard it’s good place to start them. Chilli in particular can benefit from putting in a plastic bag too.
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: Gattopardo on 22 April, 2020, 10:35:36 pm
Came here to ask about seeds too.

Have tried soaking the seed is peroxide https://balconygardenweb.com/soaking-seeds-in-hydrogen-peroxide-germination/ still failed as i left the seeds in peroxide for too long.
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: Ashaman42 on 23 April, 2020, 07:00:38 am
Well I sowed some seeds yesterday. One packet had an expiry of 2017 and the rest were all 2011/2012. Perpetual spinach, spring onion, cayenne pepper, bell pepper, tomato and butternut squash sown and in the patio window.

Not expecting a great deal but nothing to lose if they don't germinate. It's not like I can get to B&Q at the moment anyway.

Though I have just now remembered that our little Tesco have got a little seed stand at the moment. Could pick up a couple packets when we next shop.
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: Gattopardo on 12 May, 2020, 11:35:58 am
Found some seeds that were over 10 years out of date.

Trying to see if they germinate by leaving them on a wet kitchen towel in a plastic bag.
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: andyoxon on 12 May, 2020, 11:42:14 am
I tried some more 4-6 yrso seeds including chillis, squash, melon, basil - nothing, not one. 

I now have 10 large tomato plants (2014 seeds) and around 20 getting bigger; itching to get ouside.  Will probably plant out 5-7, swap some with the neighbour for other veg plants (they have allotment), and the rest will go ouside for passersby pickup...
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: Gattopardo on 16 May, 2020, 03:09:51 pm
After the wet towel I have quite a few basil seedlings and all 6 courgette seeds have sprouted.

So potted them today in to poundshop multipurpose compost and lets see what comes up.
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: Wowbagger on 25 May, 2020, 11:20:49 pm
Dez was clearing out the shed and found a load of parsnip seeds, best before 2009. I sprinkled them liberally around the place, but I doubt that we will get any parsnips rom them.
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: ElyDave on 26 May, 2020, 06:01:27 am
Parsnips are one of those I would never try and use after the first year
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: rafletcher on 26 May, 2020, 07:45:00 am
Parsnips are one of those I would never try and use after the first year

Agreed. Even fresh parsnip seed is not great at germination.
Title: Re: Growing from seeds...
Post by: andyoxon on 24 March, 2021, 03:33:29 pm
Today planted... 

Tomato:    San Marzano 2

Chilli:
F1 Longhorn
Chocolate Habanero -  300K-400K+  Scoville    :thumbsup:

Parsley & coriander.

Anyone else started yet?
Title: Re: Growing from seeds...
Post by: Blade on 25 March, 2021, 08:05:24 am
Last Autumn, while cycling past a huge field of poppies, I picked up a broken off seed head and took it home.

After drying off over the winter, I opened up the seed pod and planted several dozen seeds in a seed tray.

The seeds have now germinated and I now have seedlings an inch tall. I'll plant them out into the garden once the weather improves,

The poppies were being grown commercially for their petals and the field is referred to as The Confetti Farm by locals.

I've passed the remainder of the seeds on to various friends who have expressed an interest in growing some too.
Title: Re: Packet seed shelf life?
Post by: hellymedic on 28 March, 2021, 09:42:10 pm
Update. 
6 yro tomato seeds: germinating fine  :thumbsup:  Some potted on.
Considering that they go right through the bowel and out t'other end...

I understand that's how the railway workers know if there's dumping on the line...
Title: Re: Growing from seeds...
Post by: hellymedic on 28 March, 2021, 09:47:31 pm
D is Not Happy.
His mini-greenhouse has been blown over by a gust of wind, emptying all the seed trays therein.

Some seedlings had looked quite promising. Will need to start again, methinks.

Still, we have several seed trays in the house.
Title: Re: Growing from seeds...
Post by: andyoxon on 28 March, 2021, 10:32:23 pm
That's a shame.   I only have two large seed trays, inside on a window sill.
Title: Re: Growing from seeds...
Post by: hellymedic on 28 March, 2021, 11:06:20 pm
I think there are three in the bathroom and two on the windowsill on the stars.

I don't know how many were in the greenhouse.
Title: Re: Growing from seeds...
Post by: campagman on 10 April, 2021, 09:09:25 pm
Y'day I received some wildflower seeds from the National Botanical Garden of Wales. Part of a project to improve mental health in these times. I normally only interested in growing food but am looking forward to how these seeds fare in my new to be front garden wildflower meadow. Today I sowed the seeds in module trays.
Title: Re: Growing from seeds...
Post by: Bledlow on 10 April, 2021, 10:10:37 pm
I think there are three in the bathroom and two on the windowsill on the stars.

I don't know how many were in the greenhouse.
I presume the stars are for extra warmth.  :demon:
Title: Re: Growing from seeds...
Post by: hellymedic on 16 April, 2021, 01:37:37 am
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Growing from seeds...
Post by: andyoxon on 16 April, 2021, 09:41:47 am
Potted on some of the tomato seedlings.  Parsely & coriander coming up - going to run out of space inside; have to start getting creative...   :)