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Title: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 20 March, 2021, 10:58:27 pm
Starts tomorrow! (Sun 21st)

During lockdown 1 I rewatched all 5 series, so I'm up to speed and ready to roll....
Title: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 21 March, 2021, 10:16:37 pm
Long shot from Ted’s office of new girl at work in the background...

Steve: “She’s good.”

SO WAS GEORGIA!!!!

Odds on she doesn’t survive the series - not least because they’ll need an excuse to bring Kate back into the fold.

Can’t remember Carl Banks from earlier series. Have we seen him before? And where have they moved Jackie Laverty?
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 21 March, 2021, 10:50:21 pm
So was Jackie still in the missing "Large appliance"? I can't remember whether they moved her or not?

Edit: I'm glad I now know what CHIS means :P
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: andyoxon on 22 March, 2021, 07:16:10 am
So was Jackie still in the missing "Large appliance"? I can't remember whether they moved her or not?

Edit: I'm glad I now know what CHIS means :P

I think millions simultaneously reached for their phones to search for "CHIS".  I did.  Had to have subtitles on, to catch everything. 
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Legs on 22 March, 2021, 08:45:23 am
Can’t remember Carl Banks from earlier series. Have we seen him before? And where have they moved Jackie Laverty?

There was a Lee Banks in S5 (a member of the OCG).  Coincidence, no?
Title: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 22 March, 2021, 11:39:25 am
So was Jackie still in the missing "Large appliance"? I can't remember whether they moved her or not?

I have a vague recollection of Ryan saying something about getting rid of her. Seems a bit pointless keeping her after Tony Gates died at the end of S1. They probably just forgot she was in Terry’s freezer.

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Edit: I'm glad I now know what CHIS means :P

I remembered it from having looked it up when it came up in a previous series. :smug:
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 22 March, 2021, 11:40:10 am
Can’t remember Carl Banks from earlier series. Have we seen him before? And where have they moved Jackie Laverty?

There was a Lee Banks in S5 (a member of the OCG).  Coincidence, no?

Unlikely to be a coincidence!
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 22 March, 2021, 09:35:46 pm
I fired up the BBC sounds app earlier to listen to the radio and I noticed the LoD podcast. So I listened to it. It's early doors yet, but a few interesting questions:

WTF with all the locks on Davidson's front door?!

Why did she chuck the wine glass at the photo? Is the photo of her and her mother? And what's its significance?

Why have they got someone as well known as Andi Osho to play a dead woman? Is she actually still alive?!
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 23 March, 2021, 07:20:37 am
Why have they got someone as well known as Andi Osho to play a dead woman? Is she actually still alive?!

That’s a very good question!

Just had a look on imdb and she is credited as appearing in six episodes of this series...
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: TimC on 23 March, 2021, 11:50:23 am
So was Jackie still in the missing "Large appliance"? I can't remember whether they moved her or not?

Edit: I'm glad I now know what CHIS means :P

DNA from her remains was found in the bag with John Corbett's body in S5 (episode 5 or 6, can't remember). Was it actually those body parts from that freezer, or just a trace of DNA?
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 28 March, 2021, 10:21:36 am
So was Jackie still in the missing "Large appliance"? I can't remember whether they moved her or not?

Edit: I'm glad I now know what CHIS means :P

DNA from her remains was found in the bag with John Corbett's body in S5 (episode 5 or 6, can't remember). Was it actually those body parts from that freezer, or just a trace of DNA?

Well remembered!
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 28 March, 2021, 10:51:20 am
Yes, well remembered indeed - I'd completely forgotten about that, but according to the internet it was actually body parts that they dumped in a bag along with Corbett's body.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 29 March, 2021, 02:46:03 pm
"There's only one thing I'm interested in....

<drum roll>

BENT COPPERS!"

<downs all the drinks, sets fire to bingo card>
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: TimC on 30 March, 2021, 03:42:12 am
Watched this on my phone last night after missing it Sunday night. Looks like we're being asked to remember stuff from Series 1 now! Kate recognised Ryan but couldn't remember why - she had dealings with him as the precocious and nasty little shit on a bike in Series 1 (as well as John Corbett's murderer in S5, but she doesn't know that yet).
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 30 March, 2021, 08:17:42 am
“Hey, aren’t you the little scrote who tried to lop my colleague’s thumb off with bolt croppers?”

He was quick to hide his face when Steve came in the room.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 31 March, 2021, 07:54:45 am
So.... Davidson being involved with the OCG either willngly or unwillingly is a bit obvious. Perhaps she's infiltrated the group to try and bring them down? She's kept it quiet as she doesn't trust anybody.

Hillside or The Hill. Maybe that is the significance of H? Dot was stationed at Hillside before moving to DCI Gates' team in S1.

Buckles has always been made to look suspicious, but we dismiss him as a fool. Is his character purely there to mess with us or is there more to him?
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Little Jim on 31 March, 2021, 10:09:22 am
Did Kate really leave AC12?  Or was it just a way of getting into Davidson's team undercover?
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 31 March, 2021, 12:08:17 pm
Did Kate really leave AC12?  Or was it just a way of getting into Davidson's team undercover?

Seems a bit of a coincidence that it's her new team that's being investigated by AC12, doesn't it?

Although if she is undercover, Steve obviously isn't in on it.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 31 March, 2021, 12:11:19 pm
Dot was stationed at Hillside before moving to DCI Gates' team in S1.

Good knowledge!

I've no idea about Davidson but it feels like she's more Denton than Corbett.

No idea about Buckells either. Did wonder if there might be more to him than meets the eye but not much evidence to go on yet.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 31 March, 2021, 04:45:03 pm
Dot was stationed at Hillside before moving to DCI Gates' team in S1.

Good knowledge!

It was mentioned in the podcast. I didn't actually know that  :P
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Croft on 31 March, 2021, 04:45:32 pm
Didn't Buckells interview young Ryan in S1? I guess he might not remember him, but it does seem a little suspicious. Also, surely there'd be background checks for previous for any new recruit? Or was Ryan too young for it to be kept on record?
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Legs on 06 April, 2021, 10:38:01 am
What do we reckon to Buckells?  Wrong 'un, or just being thrown under the bus by Davidson?
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 06 April, 2021, 11:21:42 am
What do we reckon to Buckells?  Wrong 'un, or just being thrown under the bus by Davidson?

I reckon Buckells is a fall guy. His biggest crime is incompetence. His biggest asset is being inconspicuous, which is why he has managed to work his way quietly up the career ladder.

Davidson is throwing everyone under the bus she can, to deflect attention from herself. She clearly engineered the break-up of her relationship with Jatri, probably to protect her, but then she's thrown her under the bus as well.

The prominence of Osborne as a background character without being directly involved in the plot leads me to suspect he is going to figure significantly as the series progresses.

Glad Kate is on to Ryan now. She's still AC-12 at heart.

Overall, I'm finding this series kind of gripping but also kind of disappointing. Is it just me or is it all just a bit "Line of Duty's Greatest Hits Tour"? At least Ted managed to come up with a new variant on his "like the battle" line.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Legs on 06 April, 2021, 11:24:38 am
At least Ted managed to come up with a new variant on his "like the battle" line.
Yup, my inner voice said "Booom!" when he came out with that one!
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: quixoticgeek on 06 April, 2021, 11:35:06 am
Overall, I'm finding this series kind of gripping but also kind of disappointing. Is it just me or is it all just a bit "Line of Duty's Greatest Hits Tour"? At least Ted managed to come up with a new variant on his "like the battle" line.

There was a point in this week's episode where it felt like they'd decided to hell with the 4th wall.

When Kate and Davidson are together, the reference the "everytime someone says OCG", which is a common twitter line of duty drinking game. While Kate then references the short hair making everyone think she's a dyke. Blatant pokes at the fans there. Kate's always given my gaydar issues, but that may just be more hope than accuracy...

Does anyone know if series 7 is happening? If it isn't, then this is going to have to wrap it all up, including the whole Laverty in a freezer thing.

J
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 06 April, 2021, 11:48:16 am
There was a point in this week's episode where it felt like they'd decided to hell with the 4th wall. 

When Kate and Davidson are together, the reference the "everytime someone says OCG", which is a common twitter line of duty drinking game.

Yes, exactly!

Similar in last week's episode when Ted was meeting Wise: "There's only one thing I'm interested in..." - and then a pause before he delivered the punchline, as if to give you a chance to get your drink ready. He might even have been looking straight to camera when he said "Bent coppers!"
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 07 April, 2021, 09:52:57 pm
Does anyone know if series 7 is happening? If it isn't, then this is going to have to wrap it all up, including the whole Laverty in a freezer thing.

As I understand it, they only had a deal to go up to 6 series. However, I'm sure they would have no problem commissioning a 7th if all involved wanted it. So who knows?!

Is it just me or is it all just a bit "Line of Duty's Greatest Hits Tour"? At least Ted managed to come up with a new variant on his "like the battle" line.

Well, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't! Ted has said "Like the battle", "BENT COPPERS!" and "MOTHER OF GOD!" in every series so far, so why stop just because people have noticed it?

As for the latest episode - we don't seem to have learned much, although the characters obvioulsy have. I suppose we'll find out just how involved Buckles is. Possibly he's so inept that he's working for the OCG without even realising it. A total patsy...
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: mattc on 11 April, 2021, 04:33:28 pm
Critics are saying tonight will have several big plot points.

Will the broadcast survive the P****e P*****p fallout??
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 11 April, 2021, 04:43:47 pm
Martin Compston tweeted that this episode is "one of the best Jed Mercurio has ever written".
https://twitter.com/martin_compston/status/1380827913394790407?s=20

Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 April, 2021, 06:50:12 pm
Critics are saying tonight will have several big plot points.

Will the broadcast survive the P****e P*****p fallout??

The guide thingie on my distascope, he say “Yes”.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: StuAff on 11 April, 2021, 10:02:26 pm
Wow. They weren't kidding!
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 11 April, 2021, 10:02:53 pm
It’s Tommy Hunter, isn’t it?
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: quixoticgeek on 11 April, 2021, 10:04:37 pm

Did I fail an observation test, or did they not reveal who Jo is related to?

Damn cliff hangers...

J
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: StuAff on 11 April, 2021, 10:06:37 pm

Did I fail an observation test, or did they not reveal who Jo is related to?

Damn cliff hangers...

J
We'd need one of those magic Hollywood Software picture enhancers to see the pic clearly....
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 11 April, 2021, 10:08:56 pm

Did I fail an observation test, or did they not reveal who Jo is related to?

Damn cliff hangers...

J

No, they didn’t reveal who it is.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Croft on 11 April, 2021, 10:15:05 pm
We'd need one of those magic Hollywood Software picture enhancers to see the pic clearly....

https://twitter.com/mrdanwalker/status/1381353711415463936

And someone needs to explain to Ted what "rhetorical" means.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: StuAff on 11 April, 2021, 10:23:32 pm
We'd need one of those magic Hollywood Software picture enhancers to see the pic clearly....

https://twitter.com/mrdanwalker/status/1381353711415463936

And someone needs to explain to Ted what "rhetorical" means.
Yup, went back and rewatched myself…
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 11 April, 2021, 10:30:12 pm
And someone needs to explain to Ted what "rhetorical" means.

I think the writing has really gone downhill in this series, but I’m still enjoying it.

That headshot too... you’ve got to laugh.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 11 April, 2021, 10:37:48 pm
Also: that’s “balaclava men” ticked off on the bingo card now as well.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: andyoxon on 11 April, 2021, 10:54:59 pm
The only thing that bugging me, is why DCI JD's seemingly superhuman powers of observation in spotting the getaway van parked up down a side street has been forgotten about?  It's been queried, and the fact remains...
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: mattc on 12 April, 2021, 07:14:08 pm
https://twitter.com/brim90/status/1381353509438820361?s=19
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 13 April, 2021, 04:05:21 pm
I know this is the spoilers thread but this relates to next Sunday's episode so...

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Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 13 April, 2021, 08:55:56 pm
I know this is the spoilers thread but this relates to next Sunday's episode so...

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Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: quixoticgeek on 18 April, 2021, 09:54:26 pm
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Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: quixoticgeek on 18 April, 2021, 10:00:26 pm

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

J
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 18 April, 2021, 10:02:21 pm
That’s mad, Ted.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 19 April, 2021, 12:11:59 pm
So the shots fired at the end? The others turned up just in time and Steve used his new found Bondesque marksman skills again?
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Jaded on 19 April, 2021, 12:55:47 pm
Kate shot herself by accident?
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 19 April, 2021, 02:22:41 pm
Kate shot herself by accident?

Or Ryan's dodgy workshop gun blew his own head off?
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 19 April, 2021, 02:26:26 pm
So the shots fired at the end? The others turned up just in time and Steve used his new found Bondesque marksman skills again?

We discussed that possibility but I reckon Steve & co can't possibly have had enough time to get there. Not that they would allow such questions of plausibility to stop them, if previous events in this series are anything to go by.

Talking of "Bondesque", I enjoyed Ryan's "No, DI Fleming, I expect you to die" speech. His normal MO is shoot first, ask questions later.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Jaded on 19 April, 2021, 04:03:29 pm
Maybe Ryan kills Jo Davidson and Kate manages to shoot Ryan...
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 19 April, 2021, 04:20:38 pm
Maybe Ryan kills Jo Davidson and Kate manages to shoot Ryan...

Kate's got a gun, Ryan would shoot her first rather than Jo!

We know warehouse guns are unsafe. The kid from the bookie's blag said as much. Ryan reminds us he's using a warehouse gun. So....he tries to shoot Kate, his gun just sort of goes bang, but does nothing else, Kate shoots him....
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 19 April, 2021, 05:10:09 pm
So....he tries to shoot Kate, his gun just sort of goes bang, but does nothing else, Kate shoots him....

That would be a nice callback to the first series when his bolt croppers fail as he's trying to lop Steve's fingers off.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: TimC on 19 April, 2021, 06:45:42 pm
You need to check the trailers for this series. Kate and Jo talking in that builders yard, Jo says 'Kate, I had nothing to do with it'. They are talking face to face. This wasn't in last night's episode. Unless this is a red herring, or possibly a deliberate misdirection by the producers, this suggests that both Kate and Jo have survived the shooting. Later in that trailer, Jo is seen with her hands up, which suggests Steve and the cavalry arrive shortly after (and it could have been their shots we heard).
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 20 April, 2021, 08:35:56 am
Last night in a dream, I discovered the identity of H and warned that if I disclosed it to a living soul..  But I do know now.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: andyoxon on 20 April, 2021, 10:38:36 am
About the shooting, I'd say that...

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Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 20 April, 2021, 10:46:52 am
Kate and Jo talking in that builders yard, Jo says 'Kate, I had nothing to do with it'. They are talking face to face. This wasn't in last night's episode. Unless this is a red herring, or possibly a deliberate misdirection by the producers, this suggests that both Kate and Jo have survived the shooting.

Or could just be a bit that ended up on the cutting room floor!

Good spot though. And yes, I guess we have to assume the shot of Jo with her hands up is following the arrival of AC-12 on the scene.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 20 April, 2021, 08:59:11 pm
Saw this earlier:

Jimmy Lakewell told Steve to "Look into the race claim"

So let's:

r a C e c l a i m

C a r m i c a e l

Just one missing letter: H

 :o

Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: TimC on 21 April, 2021, 12:17:25 pm
Love it!
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: quixoticgeek on 25 April, 2021, 07:29:53 pm

90 minutes to go...

J
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Jaded on 25 April, 2021, 07:40:21 pm
I think the two gunshots were Ryan killing Ted and Steve as they arrived at the yard.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: quixoticgeek on 25 April, 2021, 08:25:52 pm

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ez18Ec4XoAYvoPB?format=jpg&name=large)

J
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: andyoxon on 25 April, 2021, 08:46:35 pm
'Now we're sucking diesel!'
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: quixoticgeek on 25 April, 2021, 08:58:54 pm
'Now we're sucking diesel!'

Out of interest. Why the fuck would you want to suck diesel? Is this something about siphoning it from someone else's tank?

J
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: quixoticgeek on 25 April, 2021, 09:09:24 pm
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Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 25 April, 2021, 10:01:17 pm
Aaaaaaand... breathe.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Croft on 25 April, 2021, 10:06:02 pm
Back on form this week. I do love a good LoD interview.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: andyoxon on 25 April, 2021, 10:41:03 pm
I guess imminent syphoning success would be when the diesel is making it way up and over the bend in the tube being sucked on...

I note the wee donkey put in an appearance tonight...   ;)
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: TimC on 26 April, 2021, 10:38:00 am
I just hope Patricia Carmichael is shot by every single other member of the cast. As many times as possible. And fuck whether the guns can be traced.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Little Jim on 26 April, 2021, 10:44:40 am
I just hope Patricia Carmichael is shot by every single other member of the cast. As many times as possible. And fuck whether the guns can be traced.

 ;D but is she deliberately trying to shut things down because she is part of the OCG (when she kept preventing Ted from continuing some of the lines of questioning) or is she just one of those charisma-free bureaucrats that you occasionally have the misfortune to meet in life, interested only in ticking the boxes and furthering her career?  My money is currently on the latter as otherwise she is too obviously a "baddie".
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Jaded on 26 April, 2021, 10:50:12 am
Sweepstake:

How many minutes will Jo Davidson last...
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 26 April, 2021, 10:52:00 am
I don't think she's a baddie. She is clearly a careerist, but probably a highly competent detective as well. Her back story is that she's a single parent and carer for an elderly mother, so not the kind of person who wants to spend more time in the office than necessary. She's certainly not a Buckells-type idiot.

Plus her perspective on AC12 is that they're incompetent and pursuing a vendetta, which will be the line she's been fed by the chief constable, but I reckon she'll see some evidence that changes her mind, and then she'll flip into kick-ass mode and start giving Ted her full support.

And no way was that Thurwell's body. You don't draft in James Nesbitt this late in the game to only have him appearing as a photograph.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: TimC on 26 April, 2021, 10:58:02 am
Oh, she's undoubtedly a Mercurio red herring, but she still needs exterminating (so she has time to reincarnate as a Dalek before the next Dr Who series).

The two female prison guards have escaped from a kids' show as well. The Saint, perhaps?

I think my overwhelming impression of last night's show was how much fun the actors are having with this. Which almost certainly means the show will die after next week!

ETA:
And no way was that Thurwell's body. You don't draft in James Nesbitt this late in the game to only have him appearing as a photograph.

I expect he got a good wodge for that. I wonder if that was all he could spare (or could legally do with Covid limitations) as he was filming that awful Bloodlands at the same time as this was shot?
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 26 April, 2021, 11:01:41 am
The two female prison guards have escaped from a kids' show as well. The Saint, perhaps?

In another life:
https://youtu.be/3CiGUMQZUgU

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I think my overwhelming impression of last night's show was how much fun the actors are having with this. Which almost certainly means the show will die after next week!

Does have a feeling of all being wrapped up. Ted's going and it looks like Steve will be following.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: joy of essex on 26 April, 2021, 11:03:04 am
No,  Ted will  retire. The others will resign.

There will then be a new series based in Spain where the  ex AC12 team  hunt down retired bent coppers and battle against James Nesbit.

This will probably be on Amazon,
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 26 April, 2021, 11:17:28 am
No,  Ted will  retire. The others will resign.

There will then be a new series based in Spain where the  ex AC12 team  hunt down retired bent coppers and battle against James Nesbit.

This will probably be on Amazon,

 ;D

I presume everyone else came to the same conclusion as us - that Thurwell was the 'father figure' in Davidson's early life.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 26 April, 2021, 11:56:54 am
I don't think she's a baddie. She is clearly a careerist, but probably a highly competent detective as well. Her back story is that she's a single parent and carer for an elderly mother, so not the kind of person who wants to spend more time in the office than necessary. She's certainly not a Buckells-type idiot.

Plus her perspective on AC12 is that they're incompetent and pursuing a vendetta, which will be the line she's been fed by the chief constable, but I reckon she'll see some evidence that changes her mind, and then she'll flip into kick-ass mode and start giving Ted her full support.


Yeah, she might well change her mind and join Ted, but everyone would like to see her made a fool of and have that smug grin wiped off her face! Whether or not we'll be given that, who knows?

Edit: There are an awful lot of loose ends to tie up in the last show. Is it only an hour or are we going to get an extended last episode as before I wonder?
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Legs on 27 April, 2021, 08:24:55 am
90 minutes apparently...
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 27 April, 2021, 02:30:17 pm
'Now we're sucking diesel!'

Out of interest. Why the fuck would you want to suck diesel? Is this something about siphoning it from someone else's tank?

J

I take it to mean "we're increasing our level of effort/accelerating the pace of our investigations" - as in, the engine is working harder, therefore is sucking in diesel at a greater rate.

People also say "now we're motoring" to mean the same thing.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Beardy on 30 April, 2021, 11:08:00 pm
After my little error in starting to watch S6, we put it on hold after watching the first two episodes.

The plan was to watch 3 and 4 tonight, 5 and 6 tomorrow evening and the finale on Sunday. Having watched 3 and 4 Dr Beardy (Mrs) insisted that we watch another episode even though I protested. I got my own back though. There was absolutely no way we could leave it at the end of E5 when we had E6 locked and loaded there and then. She did protest, even getting as far as standing up, but I prevailed. We’ve now got to wait until Sunday though!

I think that Anne Maxwell Martin is having way to much fun playing Carmichael though.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Jaded on 01 May, 2021, 09:21:45 pm
90 minutes apparently...

Only an hour, so you’ll have to pay attention, it’ll be a roller coaster!
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: quixoticgeek on 01 May, 2021, 11:21:38 pm

I watched the trailer for tonights episode on gootube.

Then Youtube recommended me a video about theories of who is H... and another
and another... and holy fuck there's some crazy out there...

J
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Beardy on 01 May, 2021, 11:31:16 pm
Will we actually find out who the 4th ‘man’ is? Will it all be wrapped up? Or will the BBC pull the finale in support of all those disappointed ITV viewers of Viewpoint?
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 02 May, 2021, 07:58:10 am
Or will the BBC pull the finale in support of all those disappointed ITV viewers of Viewpoint?

My dad commented that it was very fortunate Noel Clarke wasn’t in LoD.

My wife has been watching Viewpoint. From what I saw, it looked terrible, so pulling it was probably a mercy.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Mr Larrington on 02 May, 2021, 09:46:22 am
Or will the BBC pull the finale in support of all those disappointed ITV viewers of Viewpoint?

My dad commented that it was very fortunate Noel Clarke wasn’t in LoD.

My wife has been watching Viewpoint. From what I saw, it looked terrible, so pulling it was probably a mercy.

Professor Larrington said the same thing re LoD.  And she has been watching “Viewpoint”.  In spite of her leftie academic credentials she was Not Happy.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: rafletcher on 02 May, 2021, 09:51:23 am
Or will the BBC pull the finale in support of all those disappointed ITV viewers of Viewpoint?

My dad commented that it was very fortunate Noel Clarke wasn’t in LoD.

My wife has been watching Viewpoint. From what I saw, it looked terrible, so pulling it was probably a mercy.

Professor Larrington said the same thing re LoD.  And she has been watching “Viewpoint”.  In spite of her leftie academic credentials she was Not Happy.

It’s still available on the ITV Hub.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: quixoticgeek on 02 May, 2021, 10:00:23 pm

What?!?!!?!?!

WHAT?!?!!?!?!!!!!one!1111!!!

ffs.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Beardy on 02 May, 2021, 10:02:12 pm

What?!?!!?!?!

WHAT?!?!!?!?!!!!!one!1111!!!

ffs.
Well they’ve got to leave it open for the next series.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Croft on 02 May, 2021, 10:07:22 pm
Despite the twitterati being somewhat disappointed the finale wasn't all high drama and "quick exit needed", I thought it was a fitting zeitgeist ending.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 02 May, 2021, 10:12:10 pm
They’re still out there. It was never going to be that easy.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 02 May, 2021, 10:40:14 pm
Despite the twitterati being somewhat disappointed the finale wasn't all high drama and "quick exit needed", I thought it was a fitting zeitgeist ending.

Agreed. The more I think about it, the more I like it. It’s making the point that it’s not all about big criminal masterminds, just low level endemic corruption.

I’ve criticised the last few series for becoming increasingly far fetched, but this brings it all back to the mundane reality.

Also casts a light on several real life cases.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 02 May, 2021, 10:44:33 pm
They’re still out there. It was never going to be that easy.

Next series: Lomax leads the investigation into Hunter jr and proves Osborne’s involvement in the cover up, while Carmichael, touched by Ted’s confession, develops a conscience and becomes an avenging angel.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: woollypigs on 02 May, 2021, 11:03:03 pm
this is our household reply to the seasons ending : meh
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Jakob on 03 May, 2021, 05:23:55 am
this is our household reply to the seasons ending : meh

Yeah.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Croft on 03 May, 2021, 07:05:10 am
I think they've given us pretty clever resolution to the series. Culprit(s) that almost no-one predicted, yet the evidence was there all along, all with a plausible explanation. And a damning political allegory with Buckells == Boris and institutions marking their own homework.

https://twitter.com/mikegove12/status/1389118533234315265
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Hot Flatus on 03 May, 2021, 07:38:00 am
Is it ok not to use spoiler tags now? Can’t believe at the end of Line of Duty they pulled out and it was all happening on a microscope slide in an alien lab that was actually in the Middle Ages but everyone was also robots and all cogs came out of their faces. Didn’t see that coming.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Jakob on 03 May, 2021, 07:41:03 am
Also, the over-acting by the prison guards was something to behold. "Scowl! No! Scowl more! More!!"
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: robgul on 03 May, 2021, 07:55:14 am
Hmm - underwhelmed . . .  but it looks like the door is ajar for another go for AC12
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: woollypigs on 03 May, 2021, 08:56:02 am
What they should have done. As Jo walk out her house with dog and partner, down that path. A big black SUV should have pulled up and a person steps out and say her name and then they should have cut scene.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Beardy on 03 May, 2021, 11:37:35 am
It was a realistic ending which is why it’s got some people agitated.

The higher ups are, as is usually the case, more interested in how it reflects on them than whether it’s the best outcome for everyone. The last man standing was the quiet one who didn’t get actively involved in sorting shit out. A reorganisation always looks good to those watching from the outside. All just business as usual in corporate Britain.

It’s just that after the rollercoaster of twists and turns that the various seasons have been, the run into the station at the end was a bit, well, anticlimactic.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: TimC on 03 May, 2021, 12:15:37 pm
I thought it was ok as a series ending, but not as an end to the franchise - which I believe will see at least one more series. Enough questions were left open that there's plenty of material for the story to go on.

But 'realistic'? Come on, this is - and is intended to be - high drama. We don't want 'realism', we want suspense, intrigue, opportunities for endless speculation, and we got all that. Actually, reading POBI, that is realistic.

Some questions I had at the end:

Who forged the Production Order authorisation to abduct Jo? Lomax has to be in the frame for that. In true Jed style, he's a clone of Dot Cotton.

Will Hastings successfully appeal his enforced retirement, or will his confession to Carmichael get him prosecuted?

Why did Kate do a runner with Jo after the confrontation in the car park? Was that a potential love story that was abandoned?

Carmichael was depicted as being very uncomfortable when she saw Buckells brought in again. She wanted charges against him dropped in E6, she said that anti-corruption investigations aren't a priority, and the pre-credit notes said that, if the application for public-interest immunity was granted, no evidence of police corruption would be placed before the court in Buckells' trial.

Why was Gail Vella killed? She was of no interest to the OCGs that Buckells was supposed to be working for. The only credible reason was that she was getting too close to the truth about corruption in the police. Osbourne must be in the frame for that.

Why did Kate go back to the medical officer after her chat with Steve? Is Steve likely to get suspended for not turning in his firearms licence? He was carrying a gun in the scene where they intercepted Jo's transport.

There's plenty more...
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Jaded on 03 May, 2021, 01:14:07 pm
I thought he was carrying a taser?
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 03 May, 2021, 01:45:12 pm
I thought it was OK. A massive chase and a shoot out would have been too much. Some things left open, so could make another series or just leave it there...

Why did Kate do a runner with Jo after the confrontation in the car park? Was that a potential love story that was abandoned?

Because she needed to get away and work shit out before Jo was taken in by Carmichael's mob, AC12 or the OCG got at her. And considering she had no idea who was bent and who wasn't, she didn't want to risk her being taken by any of the those.

I don't think there was ever any love story - Kate was just playing along to get closer to Jo to find out the truth.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: quixoticgeek on 03 May, 2021, 01:46:09 pm
I thought he was carrying a taser?

Yeah, he's very clearly seen carrying and using a tazer. Which doesn't need the firearms ticket.

J
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: TimC on 03 May, 2021, 02:01:21 pm
I thought he was carrying a taser?

Yeah, he's very clearly seen carrying and using a tazer. Which doesn't need the firearms ticket.

J

Yes, you're right - I'd forgotten that! (In my defence, I watched it at about 1 am!).

I thought it was OK. A massive chase and a shoot out would have been too much. Some things left open, so could make another series or just leave it there...

Why did Kate do a runner with Jo after the confrontation in the car park? Was that a potential love story that was abandoned?

Because she needed to get away and work shit out before Jo was taken in by Carmichael's mob, AC12 or the OCG got at her. And considering she had no idea who was bent and who wasn't, she didn't want to risk her being taken by any of the those.

I don't think there was ever any love story - Kate was just playing along to get closer to Jo to find out the truth.


Well put, Bobb. Though I wasn't suggesting that there was a love story, just that it was an option for the plot.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Beardy on 03 May, 2021, 03:52:51 pm
I enjoyed it, and to be honest I’d rather have an ending like that than either a massive cliffhanger or, often more unsatisfying, all the loose ends tied up neatly. Life is NEVER like that.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: mattc on 04 May, 2021, 06:01:29 pm
Despite the twitterati being somewhat disappointed the finale wasn't all high drama and "quick exit needed", I thought it was a fitting zeitgeist ending.

Agreed. The more I think about it, the more I like it. It’s making the point that it’s not all about big criminal masterminds, just low level endemic corruption.

I’ve criticised the last few series for becoming increasingly far fetched, but this brings it all back to the mundane reality.

Also casts a light on several real life cases.
+1 here.

And here is a somewhat academic ramble along similar lines which be of interest to some:
https://twitter.com/RachelMuers/status/1389029472813391877?s=19
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 04 May, 2021, 06:36:09 pm
Despite the twitterati being somewhat disappointed the finale wasn't all high drama and "quick exit needed", I thought it was a fitting zeitgeist ending.

Agreed. The more I think about it, the more I like it. It’s making the point that it’s not all about big criminal masterminds, just low level endemic corruption.

I’ve criticised the last few series for becoming increasingly far fetched, but this brings it all back to the mundane reality.

Also casts a light on several real life cases.
+1 here.

And here is a somewhat academic ramble along similar lines which be of interest to some:
https://twitter.com/RachelMuers/status/1389029472813391877?s=19

That's brilliant.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Ben T on 04 May, 2021, 11:21:43 pm
I liked it but think it’s suffered from having peaked too early.
They’re good at two things - interview scenes, and raids/gun-fights. So the episode in a previous series where they combined those two and had Dot Cotton break out of his interview only to run down the street and then get shot was the “high point” and they’ve never really been able to equal that since.
The trouble with having Osbourne as the 4th man would be “yeah but  who is he?” He’s not a major enough character, he’s only had a couple of scenes on the news and that’s it. What they really should have done was introduce a whole bunch of high ranking officials early on, made them minor characters but significant enough that they’ve got character, like Carmichael.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: bobb on 04 May, 2021, 11:27:49 pm
The trouble with having Osbourne as the 4th man would be “yeah but  who is he?” He’s not a major enough character, he’s only had a couple of scenes on the news and that’s it.

But he's been in it on and off since S1. We find out he's a wrong 'un in the very first episode....
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Ben T on 04 May, 2021, 11:42:13 pm
The trouble with having Osbourne as the 4th man would be “yeah but  who is he?” He’s not a major enough character, he’s only had a couple of scenes on the news and that’s it.

But he's been in it on and off since S1. We find out he's a wrong 'un in the very first episode....

Yeah but only really on the news. He hasn’t really done anything, other than give the odd press conference. He hasn’t really got character, unlike say Carmichael, who has. I dunno, maybe he’s just a bad actor.
So it wouldn’t cause much suspense for him to be revealed as the 4th man, if he hypothetically were to have been.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Beardy on 05 May, 2021, 09:26:37 am
Along those lines, I did wonder if it was going to be the deputy chief Constable because we have seen her throughout and she’s never been totally supportive of AC12.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 05 May, 2021, 09:33:10 am
Along those lines, I did wonder if it was going to be the deputy chief Constable because we have seen her throughout and she’s never been totally supportive of AC12.

Nah, I think she's just someone who allows her moral compass to be skewed by political expediency. Likewise Sindwhani. They're the kind of people who go into policing and/or politics with good intentions but then realise that idealism is no way to make a successful career.

Besides, we've already had two corrupt DCCs in previous series so they needed to do something different.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Ben T on 05 May, 2021, 09:50:45 am
What was also a bit of a damp squib was how they slightly hinted at there being some sort of paedo element but didn't develop it into being fully part of the story.
The idea of "but OCG have no reason to shoot Gail Vella so what could the motive be?" made me think that was going to come to the fore but it never did. They did at least provide a bit of an answer to that question by way of the 2003 Lawrence Christopher (which was obviously intended to be a fictionalisation of the real life Stephen Lawrence) investigation corruption though.
I definitely think he's trying to tread a fine line between rounding it off nicely and leaving the door open for another series if he wants to/can make one.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 05 May, 2021, 10:16:53 am
The idea of "but OCG have no reason to shoot Gail Vella so what could the motive be?" made me think that was going to come to the fore but it never did. They did at least provide a bit of an answer to that question by way of the 2003 Lawrence Christopher (which was obviously intended to be a fictionalisation of the real life Stephen Lawrence) investigation corruption though.

I thought they made it pretty clear that it was Buckells who ordered her killing, in order to protect himself and Osborne (and Thurwell and Fairbanks). The OCG had no interest in her, but were apparently happy enough to bump her off as a favour to Buckells.

If there is another series, it could well focus on delving deeper into this story - at the end, we saw Darren Hunter being arrested, so they may try to use him to get at Osborne. That's the only way they're going to bring him down, because there's no way Buckells will ever dob him in.

Someone elsewhere made the observation that Buckells is a bit like William Macy's character in Fargo, which I think is pretty astute - what started off as a bit of dodgy dealing with criminals for financial gain ultimately got out of control and ended up in multiple murders. That's why he looked so terrified when he had to witness Lakewell's killing, even though it was him who ordered it.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Ben T on 19 May, 2021, 09:21:20 am
The idea of "but OCG have no reason to shoot Gail Vella so what could the motive be?" made me think that was going to come to the fore but it never did. They did at least provide a bit of an answer to that question by way of the 2003 Lawrence Christopher (which was obviously intended to be a fictionalisation of the real life Stephen Lawrence) investigation corruption though.

I thought they made it pretty clear that it was Buckells who ordered her killing, in order to protect himself and Osborne (and Thurwell and Fairbanks). The OCG had no interest in her, but were apparently happy enough to bump her off as a favour to Buckells.
I could be wrong but I thought they'd considered this very point but arrived at the conclusion that it would be too big a favour to be plausible...


If there is another series, it could well focus on delving deeper into this story

... but yes S7 might well go into why they owed him.

I think if there is an S7 I'm hoping to see (a) more build-up of the shady "bigwig" characters at the top like Osborne, more of their glamorous powerful life than just the odd news conference, (b) OCG infiltrators (such as Pilkington) having their loyalties to the OCG tested by making positive connections in the police and possibly ultimately turning against the OCG, (c) new themes such as links to the political classes / different types of crime.

Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: citoyen on 19 May, 2021, 10:11:57 am
I thought they made it pretty clear that it was Buckells who ordered her killing, in order to protect himself and Osborne (and Thurwell and Fairbanks). The OCG had no interest in her, but were apparently happy enough to bump her off as a favour to Buckells.
I could be wrong but I thought they'd considered this very point but arrived at the conclusion that it would be too big a favour to be plausible...

I'll have to go back and watch the final interview scene again... but neither of the Banks brothers seemed to have any qualms about killing anyone, for any reason.

Also, it occurs to me that the orders to kill Gail Vella, Thurwell, Jimmy Lakewell, Kate and the CHIS probably came from Osborne himself – rather than Buckells, who is just Osborne's lackey, passing on his orders to the OCG. That would also explain why Buckells was so terrified at witnessing Lakewell's murder even though he ostensibly ordered it, and his fear of Osborne's retribution is why he was willing to take the rap himself rather than dobbing Osborne in.
Title: Re: Line of Duty S6 ***spoilers***
Post by: Ben T on 19 May, 2021, 10:34:30 am

I'll have to go back and watch the final interview scene again... but neither of the Banks brothers seemed to have any qualms about killing anyone, for any reason.

Not morally they don't, but they might think there's a risk associated with it.


Also, it occurs to me that the orders to kill Gail Vella, Thurwell, Jimmy Lakewell, Kate and the CHIS probably came from Osborne himself – rather than Buckells, who is just Osborne's lackey, passing on his orders to the OCG. That would also explain why Buckells was so terrified at witnessing Lakewell's murder even though he ostensibly ordered it, and his fear of Osborne's retribution is why he was willing to take the rap himself rather than dobbing Osborne in.

Which raises the interesting question of if Buckells did dob Osborne in, would Osborne implicitly have the OCG sufficiently under his own thumb to take retribution against Buckells?
i.e. is his only link to the OCG through Buckells simply because he doesn't want to do the boring admin/get his hands dirty and they know it's really coming from him, or could it be that they only trust Buckells? I assume you're thinking it could be the former, but if it's the latter, then Buckells could effectively mount a "coup" if he was able to take Osborne out by selling him up the river without a paddle.