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Intermediate Checkpoints Now Untimed for ACP/RUSA Brevets (Feb/Mar 2024)

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LateStarter:
Haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere here.

Doing some Audax related searches and ended up on Randonneurs USA (RUSA) site and saw a post regarding changes to ACP BRM rules and subsequent change to  RUSA rules. Bottom line is that for them all Intermediate Checkpoint opening & closing times are now only advisory with only the final checkpoint actually counting. Can't find anything related on ACP site but their "news" items are years old.

https://rusa.org/node/1667 

I guess it is up to each region to decide to follow ACP lead or not

PS - Also "ACP Super Randonneur Award - now calendar year" https://rusa.org/node/1677

Wycombewheeler:

--- Quote from: LateStarter on 30 April, 2024, 02:27:58 am ---Haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere here.

Doing some Audax related searches and ended up on Randonneurs USA (RUSA) site and saw a post regarding changes to ACP BRM rules and subsequent change to  RUSA rules. Bottom line is that for them all Intermediate Checkpoint opening & closing times are now only advisory with only the final checkpoint actually counting. Can't find anything related on ACP site but their "news" items are years old.

https://rusa.org/node/1667 

I guess it is up to each region to decide to follow ACP lead or not

PS - Also "ACP Super Randonneur Award - now calendar year" https://rusa.org/node/1677

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seems like a positive change, notwithstanding that volunteers should not be required to operate controls for extra time to facilitate this. So it should be in organisers control opening hours for event controls as opposed to independent proofs of passage.

grams:
We can only dream ACP issues a similar memo about minimum distance / route integrity. Though AUK would find a way to ignore it.


--- Quote ---notwithstanding that volunteers should not be required to operate controls for extra time to facilitate this
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Providing facilities / card stamping at controls for the full duration has always been optional AFAIK, as long as there's some other PoP method available.

Wycombewheeler:

--- Quote from: grams on 30 April, 2024, 12:37:01 pm ---We can only dream ACP issues a similar memo about minimum distance / route integrity. Though AUK would find a way to ignore it.


--- Quote ---notwithstanding that volunteers should not be required to operate controls for extra time to facilitate this
--- End quote ---

Providing facilities / card stamping at controls for the full duration has always been optional AFAIK, as long as there's some other PoP method available.

--- End quote ---

for the full duration of the event, or the full duration of the control window?


--- Quote from: grams on 30 April, 2024, 12:37:01 pm ---We can only dream ACP issues a similar memo about minimum distance / route integrity. Though AUK would find a way to ignore it.


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Unfortunately there are too many AUK riders who think the official routes are "boring" and will push back against mandatory routing so that they can ride on dual carriageways instead of the specified route. forcing the rest of us to ride over distance.

peter simplex:

--- Quote from: Wycombewheeler on 30 April, 2024, 01:28:19 pm ---

Unfortunately there are too many AUK riders who think the official routes are "boring" and will push back against mandatory routing so that they can ride on dual carriageways instead of the specified route. forcing the rest of us to ride over distance.

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Rubbish.  It's[some] organisers who make you ride over-distance by promoting poorly designed routes,  incorporating  controls which have a dual carriageway or trunk road as the shortest route between them. No wonder we see 215km+ 200s.  You can put an info anywhere to keep the route "boring" and closer to distance.

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