I resisted signing up to MapMyRide because it wanted me to connect using FriendFace, but that aside, I've heard good things about it. Maybe I should give it a try.
You can use MapMyRide without linking it to your Facebook account, the Facebook login is simply another way to login.
Never heard of it.
(ps what's an iPhone?)
I used Strava (iPhone app) for the first time on my ride after work this evening. Hmmm....
Apparently, I did 68km (my old reliable Cateye tells me I did 42km) and my max speed was 363km/h. ::-)
I suppose this is what you call a nice problem to have. ;D
Anyway, does anyone know how you can correct errors in the route tracking? Is it possible to iron out GPS glitches in the record?
If not, my relationship with Strava is going to be a very short one.
d.
They're so few girls on it, I'm QOM almost everywhere I've been. Which is daft.Even I managed to get a cup for 10th place yesterday! (out of 10 ;)). My average speed for the day was about 7MPH!
Strava is currently spoiling all our club rides. On every little rise, some muppet with a Garmin decides he needs a "placing" and attacks, then sits up at the top and, so when the group eventually comes back together everybody is wearing out their brake blocks and rims because Mr Bigshot Strava Segment is is too tired to pedal down the other side. I hate Strava.
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I wouldn't worry - people like him can't be trusted on the front of a group!Strava is currently spoiling all our club rides. On every little rise, some muppet with a Garmin decides he needs a "placing" and attacks, then sits up at the top and, so when the group eventually comes back together everybody is wearing out their brake blocks and rims because Mr Bigshot Strava Segment is is too tired to pedal down the other side. I hate Strava.
There's one doofus who rides like that on our club rides. He just sits in the pack until we hit a hill then charges off as fast as he can. Not sure if he's actually on Strava or just a cock. Either way, he's definitely a cock. And as if to prove the point... he wears full replica Sky kit.
Anyway, since he's usually in the same group as me, he's a long way off being the fastest in the club - the fast boys are usually way down the road by the time we reach the hills.
d.
Meanwhile, can anyone enlighten me as to how I 'hide' home and work. It offered me an option when I recorded my first ride, but automatically chose the wrong end of the ride ;D
Meanwhile, can anyone enlighten me as to how I 'hide' home and work. It offered me an option when I recorded my first ride, but automatically chose the wrong end of the ride ;D
Your name [in top right corner] > Settings > Privacy
I might try this but the idea of having downhill KOM competitions strikes me as spectacularly stupid. I see an American family are in the process of sueing Strava following the death of a rider trying to get a good time on a descent.
However... I'm now 9th overall out of 274 riders with a 24.3 mph speed up it. I find this a little hard to believe - I'm 42, more than 16 stone, WTF? Plus it was done on the slower of my two bikes - not even a full roadbike.
I'll gladly take the kudos but.... really?
I get daily emails to tell me somebitchother female rider has taken one of my QOMs! I have a ridiculous number of them not because I am speedy up hill (as if) but because there are probably not that many females on Strava in some of the areas I ride yet.
I'd like there to be a 'distance covered before this segment' filter.
Not that I'm competitive or anything, but I think you'll find, skinny little girls, that if the segment comes after 375km it's not impossible I'll be a little slower than you were after 3.75km.
I should just turn off the notifications. :facepalm:
Another neat feature (if you didn't know) is that each bike you own, you can add parts to the profile of the bike and it will then record the mileage for that part (so chains, tyres etc.) - makes measuring lifetime quick and easy.
Another neat feature (if you didn't know) is that each bike you own, you can add parts to the profile of the bike and it will then record the mileage for that part (so chains, tyres etc.) - makes measuring lifetime quick and easy.
Ah hadn't seen that. I'd only stuck with bikejournal 'cos of that function. Great - now I can ditch it.
I'd like there to be a 'distance covered before this segment' filter.
Not that I'm competitive or anything, but I think you'll find, skinny little girls, that if the segment comes after 375km it's not impossible I'll be a little slower than you were after 3.75km.
I should just turn off the notifications. :facepalm:
Nabbing KOM on this well known descent is the possibly the greatest achievement of my adult life :)
If my wife found out, she'd kill me quicker than a blow out would have. Maxed at 82.5kph
I clearly need to take my bike somewhere with descents that are long and steep enough to get up some real speed.
I clearly need to take my bike somewhere with descents that are long and steep enough to get up some real speed.
I clearly need to take my bike somewhere with descents that are long and steep enough to get up some real speed.
closetleftie and I are off for some beers at the bottom of this hill tonight. If you were nearer we could have a few and then egg each other on.
I clearly need to take my bike somewhere with descents that are long and steep enough to get up some real speed.
my fastest so far was down glenshee ski pass in scotland; sure, you don't need to go that far for high speed descent
Simmerly don't tell Mrs R that i recently reached 69.5 km/h on our local hill.Nabbing KOM on this well known descent is the possibly the greatest achievement of my adult life :)
Just seen this - a bit late, but have some Kudos.QuoteIf my wife found out, she'd kill me quicker than a blow out would have. Maxed at 82.5kph
Nice. I hit a max speed of 71.1km/h on the descent of River Hill last weekend, which feels a bit tame by comparison. My highest ever recorded on that descent is 79km/h. I've still never broken the 80km/h barrier on a bike (at least, not with a computer to record the evidence).
I do like the pace analysis you get when logging runs, and the elevation adjusted pace thing. I'm surprised they dont do something similar for cycling, albeit wind probably makes it less meaningful.Can't you just tell it you're running and use these features anyway? :-\
I've got some work to do for some of my local fastest times.
One of my regular routes back home follows a local TT course along some lanes. There are some very fast riders in Milton Keynes. On one of the segments one of the locals who regularly wins the club TTs averaged 33mph on a mostly downhill segment. But he's only number 2. A few days before the Olympic road race Ian Stannard came home and went out for an 83 mile ride (averaging 23mph). He averaged 43mph on that bit! Then he flew up the hill in the gastest time too.
My PR so far on that segment is 26mph. :(
You can, but the runners would likely report your "run" and get it changed back as you'd steal all the running komsClearly they need to get a sense of perspective.
You can, but the runners would likely report your "run" and get it changed back as you'd steal all the running komsClearly they need to get a sense of perspective.
I quite like having a competitive stoker on the tandem - when we see a cyclist up ahead, we mysteriously seem to speed up :D.
Didn't get it back tho'.
Damn it.
Anyone know how Strava calculates power in a ride?
On Thursday I was 1 second faster than another rider over 29 a minute segment but he put in 70% more power than me (183 vs my 110w)!
Calculations still don't add up: the guy who put out the most power is probably the heaviest but not twice as heavy as me - the effect of weight should be linear - and the guy in the middle is about my weight I'd guess?
How far did you travel horizontally for each metre climbed? I bet it wasn't zero!Of course not. But maybe I've mis-understood VAM? I was using it to plug into a Naismith type formula where a time to gain y metres of height (irrespective of distance) is added to the time to cover x kms along the ground.
At an average of, say, 5% gradient for those 3427m of climbing (and it's probably less), you travelled at least 68km horizontally. That gives around 10 kmh in the climbing phases, and around 30 kmh on the flat (which includes the downhill bits). If the average gradient was 3% (more likely, even if it peaked at 25% or more), the climbing phases represent around 114km of your ride, so you would have averaged 16kmh uphill and 24 kmh on the flat/downhill. Does that sound more reasonable?Those numbers do indeed sound more reasonable. I can see how you are getting the distances but I've not worked how you derive the speeds for uphill / flat for the different average gradients ?
How far did you travel horizontally for each metre climbed? I bet it wasn't zero!Of course not. But maybe I've mis-understood VAM? I was using it to plug into a Naismith type formula where a time to gain y metres of height (irrespective of distance) is added to the time to cover x kms along the ground.
I've just done some googling to try and confirm my understanding of how VAM is calculated and it seems to be correct, although I also learned that the whole concept was invented by none other than Dr. Michele Ferrari.
Maybe plugging numbers invented by a 20th century Italian into a formula invented by a 19th century Scot is not good mathematical practice? Or is it just my lack of "preparation"At an average of, say, 5% gradient for those 3427m of climbing (and it's probably less), you travelled at least 68km horizontally. That gives around 10 kmh in the climbing phases, and around 30 kmh on the flat (which includes the downhill bits). If the average gradient was 3% (more likely, even if it peaked at 25% or more), the climbing phases represent around 114km of your ride, so you would have averaged 16kmh uphill and 24 kmh on the flat/downhill. Does that sound more reasonable?Those numbers do indeed sound more reasonable. I can see how you are getting the distances but I've not worked how you derive the speeds for uphill / flat for the different average gradients ?
How far did you travel horizontally for each metre climbed? I bet it wasn't zero!Of course not. But maybe I've mis-understood VAM? I was using it to plug into a Naismith type formula where a time to gain y metres of height (irrespective of distance) is added to the time to cover x kms along the ground.
I've just done some googling to try and confirm my understanding of how VAM is calculated and it seems to be correct, although I also learned that the whole concept was invented by none other than Dr. Michele Ferrari.
Maybe plugging numbers invented by a 20th century Italian into a formula invented by a 19th century Scot is not good mathematical practice? Or is it just my lack of "preparation"At an average of, say, 5% gradient for those 3427m of climbing (and it's probably less), you travelled at least 68km horizontally. That gives around 10 kmh in the climbing phases, and around 30 kmh on the flat (which includes the downhill bits). If the average gradient was 3% (more likely, even if it peaked at 25% or more), the climbing phases represent around 114km of your ride, so you would have averaged 16kmh uphill and 24 kmh on the flat/downhill. Does that sound more reasonable?Those numbers do indeed sound more reasonable. I can see how you are getting the distances but I've not worked how you derive the speeds for uphill / flat for the different average gradients ?
I've no idea about the Naismith formula; I'm just using the data you gave. You climbed 3247m in ~7 hours of riding. If the average gradient was 3%, you must have ridden 114km horizontally in those 7 hours to achieve a total climbing figure of 3247m. Therefore your horizontal speed was 16kmh while your vertical speed was 460 metres climbed per hour. If you did 114km in those 7 hours, your remaining ride time of 7:50 covered the remaining 191 km, giving an average speed for the 'flat' of around 24 kmh. All numbers somewhat approximate, of course.
Tailwind? ;D ;)
Aye, I just saw that. I reckon it's probs worth it.
Aye, I just saw that. I reckon it's probs worth it.
That was my first thought, but I'm worried what Strava is going to do. Are they really going to be happy about someone else taking money out of their product? Not that I think that's what Veloviewer are doing, but I think Strava might see it that way... I'd hate to give Veloviewer a tenner to find Strava blocking them out of the API a couple of months down the line.
Did you get any of the new-fangled 2015 KoMs?
Is there a YACF club on Strava as well as on Jantastic?
Did you get any of the new-fangled 2015 KoMs?
Those are annoying. I wish there was a way of turning them off!
...near home, they will put the dinner on for me...
I thought cycling was for getting away from people ???
A bit of self indulgent, out alone time.
Oh, come on Ningishzidda...the main point of my post is the peace of mind it gives her that she can see I'm still moving on the way home and not under a bus (she worries far too much).
For some people, this kind of thing is reassuring and important. I don't think it's appropriate to take the piss out of those people.
What have they done to the web interface?! Ugh. :hand:
I've recently stopped paying for Strava.
All I've noticed is I'm using a different service for heatmaps (statshunter) and I see adverts... for Strava Summit.
But it is the spam messages and friend request by not very dressed ladies telling me I could join them in a off-site bit of naughty.that annoy me. I'm happely married, I didn't join Strava as a dating site, but to track my very few rides.
I think I'll start regularly downloading my data, just in case the worst happens at some point.
They've been tinkering with what's paid and what's free since forever. I don't see what the worry is.
Finally charging for the bit people get excited about rather than trying to charge for shoddy bolt-on features means they might get somewhere.
And, if Strava claim they can't make money, then I can't see how RwGPS can either, which bodes Ill for the future.
It’s odd that they’ve taken so long to support matched rides as they’ve been doing it for runs for ages.
I use free Strava to log rides and for veloviewer exploring, but have never used their app (Etrex or MyTracks android ) - so have a PC gpx file store.
Be interesting to see how it pans out for Strava, now the only free function is activity recording & soshul networking. I wonder if Strava would ever buy out veloviewer...
OOI if one signs up for a Strava free trial, can you download your whole ride archive?
gunzip filename.gpx.gz
gunzip *.gpx.gz
They do need to make some money, so they have to charge enough people enough money.I agree, I just think they have the pricing wrong. I don't use any of the features that are becoming subscription, I'd still be happy to contribute to it's long term survival, just not £50 a year. I look at my other subscriptions around that price and it doesn't compete, maybe I'm just a tight touring cyclist, but I think they'd have raised more at half the price.
They've been tinkering with what's paid and what's free since forever. I don't see what the worry is.
Finally charging for the bit people get excited about rather than trying to charge for shoddy bolt-on features means they might get somewhere.
Ironically, I'm actually thinking about cancelling my RideWithGPS subscription.
Komoot offers better route planning.
And Strava's route planning is also improving. I haven't logged into RWGPS for a while now.
J
OOI how is Komoot better? RWGPS (paid) routing is very good, though I do use Strava routing (set to 'popular mode') and change as needed. Strava manual mode (if used) is poorly implemented IMO and usually renders the rest of the planning unstable.
BTW RWGPS now has a decent routing part of the phone app - use POI to choose a particular route other than the auto chosen.
When are these changes to Strava happening as currently I can still see all leaderboards and I am not a subscriber?Everyone will continue to be able to see leaderboards, just the first 10 entries.
What will really be a bummer is the 'matched runs' switches to subscription only.
In any case, as of today, non-paying users will no longer see the full leaderboard
Leaderboards seem pointless to me as the top slots are invariably taken by indoor rides which nobody is interested in.Well they are promising better 'cheat' detection.
Sorry, should have been clearer that I can see the whole leaderboard for all segments not just the first 10 rider on the leaderboard . I can also plot routes which is another feature that is going to be only for paid members.
From the DC rainmaker link (18th May)QuoteIn any case, as of today, non-paying users will no longer see the full leaderboard
DC rainmaker (https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2020/05/strava-cuts-off-leaderboard-for-free-users-reduces-3rd-party-apps-for-all-and-more.html)
so I'm wondering why I can still see them.
Thanks 7zip did the trick. When converted the gpx files seem to be in ascending order of date created / ride done.
OOI how is Komoot better? RWGPS (paid) routing is very good, though I do use Strava routing (set to 'popular mode') and change as needed. Strava manual mode (if used) is poorly implemented IMO and usually renders the rest of the planning unstable.
BTW RWGPS now has a decent routing part of the phone app - use POI to choose a particular route other than the auto chosen.
Komoot tells me what the road surface is like, and also tells me if there is a ferry on my root.
My main issue with komoot is you can't download the gpx from the komoot via the app. Which dramatically reduces it's utility for on the road use.
J
With the exception of garmin I thought most use OSM vector data for routing even if they then display it on image tiles from somewhere else.OOI how is Komoot better? RWGPS (paid) routing is very good, though I do use Strava routing (set to 'popular mode') and change as needed. Strava manual mode (if used) is poorly implemented IMO and usually renders the rest of the planning unstable.
BTW RWGPS now has a decent routing part of the phone app - use POI to choose a particular route other than the auto chosen.
Komoot tells me what the road surface is like, and also tells me if there is a ferry on my root.
My main issue with komoot is you can't download the gpx from the komoot via the app. Which dramatically reduces it's utility for on the road use.
J
Thing is, Komoots main datasource is OpenStreetMap
RWGPS also uses OSM if you ask it to.
RWGPS just shows you the OSM rendering and lets you read the map.
Komoot gets the road surface based on what's been put into OSM.
It would be a nice feature for RWGPS to add.
RWGPS already has I believe implemented on the go routing in their App, though I don't use it, partly due to carrying an old nokia when on bike.
I can't get logged in to the Komoot website despite having the app, which I've found a pain because I didn't pay for it.
I wanted to have a play to see how well the surface info worked round here, because I know most roads and tracks well enough and have a good idea of which ones OSM map very differently from the OS when just looking at the image. (Yellow roads without fences on OS that appear as tracks on OSM, and I don't care enough to bother fixing things).
With the exception of garmin I thought most use OSM vector data for routing even if they then display it on image tiles from somewhere else.OOI how is Komoot better? RWGPS (paid) routing is very good, though I do use Strava routing (set to 'popular mode') and change as needed. Strava manual mode (if used) is poorly implemented IMO and usually renders the rest of the planning unstable.
BTW RWGPS now has a decent routing part of the phone app - use POI to choose a particular route other than the auto chosen.
Komoot tells me what the road surface is like, and also tells me if there is a ferry on my root.
My main issue with komoot is you can't download the gpx from the komoot via the app. Which dramatically reduces it's utility for on the road use.
J
Thing is, Komoots main datasource is OpenStreetMap
RWGPS also uses OSM if you ask it to.
RWGPS just shows you the OSM rendering and lets you read the map.
Komoot gets the road surface based on what's been put into OSM.
It would be a nice feature for RWGPS to add.
RWGPS already has I believe implemented on the go routing in their App, though I don't use it, partly due to carrying an old nokia when on bike.
I can't get logged in to the Komoot website despite having the app, which I've found a pain because I didn't pay for it.
I wanted to have a play to see how well the surface info worked round here, because I know most roads and tracks well enough and have a good idea of which ones OSM map very differently from the OS when just looking at the image. (Yellow roads without fences on OS that appear as tracks on OSM, and I don't care enough to bother fixing things).
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I will have to take a look. I had my mind focussed on vector datasets and doing the routing in the app rather than delegating the routing to a 3rd party. OSM does seem poor when it comes to bridleways, though I am not sure google is any better.With the exception of garmin I thought most use OSM vector data for routing even if they then display it on image tiles from somewhere else.OOI how is Komoot better? RWGPS (paid) routing is very good, though I do use Strava routing (set to 'popular mode') and change as needed. Strava manual mode (if used) is poorly implemented IMO and usually renders the rest of the planning unstable.
BTW RWGPS now has a decent routing part of the phone app - use POI to choose a particular route other than the auto chosen.
Komoot tells me what the road surface is like, and also tells me if there is a ferry on my root.
My main issue with komoot is you can't download the gpx from the komoot via the app. Which dramatically reduces it's utility for on the road use.
J
Thing is, Komoots main datasource is OpenStreetMap
RWGPS also uses OSM if you ask it to.
RWGPS just shows you the OSM rendering and lets you read the map.
Komoot gets the road surface based on what's been put into OSM.
It would be a nice feature for RWGPS to add.
RWGPS already has I believe implemented on the go routing in their App, though I don't use it, partly due to carrying an old nokia when on bike.
I can't get logged in to the Komoot website despite having the app, which I've found a pain because I didn't pay for it.
I wanted to have a play to see how well the surface info worked round here, because I know most roads and tracks well enough and have a good idea of which ones OSM map very differently from the OS when just looking at the image. (Yellow roads without fences on OS that appear as tracks on OSM, and I don't care enough to bother fixing things).
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With RWGPS it depends what map you have on screen.
I occasionally switch to the google mapping when the OSM routing is doing stupid things.
Leaderboards are gone! I have now made all my historic data private so if I can't see my segment efforts noone else can can. Is that being a bit childish? ::-)
The training log going is mildly annoying, I did used to look at that a lot to tally up my running, cycling and swimming.
Guess this is just going to encourage me to work on my own version of fitness analysis stuff.
The training log is now subscription only. I think that is a nice way of seeing what I've done over the last few weeks, including running/walking/cycling, and getting weekly totals etc. Can still get the training calendar, but its not as useful.
Maybe I will subscribe.
The training log going is mildly annoying, I did used to look at that a lot to tally up my running, cycling and swimming.
Guess this is just going to encourage me to work on my own version of fitness analysis stuff.
Golden Cheetah is what I use, plus a spreadsheet for total miles, Eddington numbers, monthly records, etc etc
The total for the month going is a pita.If you join a monthly challenge, you can check the totals for that.
May have been better for them to have gone three tier...I'd sign up for middle tier without thinking about it.
£0 for the new revised free functionality
£1.5/month previously free functionality, plus a bone e.g. personal heat map
£4 current full sub for all features.
I'm not paying £48 pa to get the lost features.
May have been better for them to have gone three tier...
£0 for the new revised free functionality
£1.5/month previously free functionality, plus a bone or two e.g. personal heat map
£4/mth current full sub for full.
I'm not paying £48 pa to get the lost features.
I Do wonder if pricing it closer to the price of a coffee and then being able to market it as "all this for the price of a morning coffee" would work better.
The problem with the "price of a morning coffee" stuff is that you're soon buying 27 morning coffees a month (Strava, Spotify, etc, etc, etc) and not getting a single actual real morning coffee.
Sorry, I'm ranting...
I don't want to have to pay for Netflix and Hulu and Disney+ and and and and. The point of netflix was to get everything, for a single monthly payment.
I have had a go with the new strava route planner. It looks prettier than the old one, but seems a nightmare. I will be stopping my free trial.
It seemed to be sending me down a lot of off bridleways despite the preferred paved surfaces being ticked. It also seemed very reluctant to allow dragging to alter the route - it was very jerky. I am using chrome.I have had a go with the new strava route planner. It looks prettier than the old one, but seems a nightmare. I will be stopping my free trial.
Oh? In what way? It seems to be work just as well as it ever did for me. Zoom in/out with a keyboard shortcut is a bit aggressive, but otherwise, the only thing I notice is my veloviewer extension doesn't work, and the map is a different colour. Otherwise, it works just fine.
J
...if it's a yellow road it will be surfaced (at least to the local standard) and if its a white road it probably won't be...
For example in the picture below trying to grab missing vv square near henton near chinnor it has swerved off the road taking a route that does not seem to be a right of way on o/sI have had a go with the new strava route planner. It looks prettier than the old one, but seems a nightmare. I will be stopping my free trial.
Oh? In what way? It seems to be work just as well as it ever did for me. Zoom in/out with a keyboard shortcut is a bit aggressive, but otherwise, the only thing I notice is my veloviewer extension doesn't work, and the map is a different colour. Otherwise, it works just fine.
J
That is a footpath: https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=9f0b569b-7571-4d34-acc1-abc156c35e73&cp=51.717175~-0.898939&lvl=16&style=s&v=2&sV=2&form=S00027Yes, I just saw that too. It is definitely set to bike and preference to paved. A bit of a nightmare if it is leaving perfectly good roads to (illegally) use footpaths.
Jesus... give these 4 quid a month to the guys... they've offered you a free service for years and in return you are trying to skimp on the monthly cost of a pint of ale?
It's either subscription or it's a feed full of advertising like in Facebook, I'd rather pay some small change to avoid the latter
I'm just wary about paying now because of they are struggling then I'll be paying into something that may well disappear.Who says they are struggling? They have been losing money for the years, like most other internet companies. Doesn't mean they are going to disappear any time soon. Just seems like DC Rainmaker taking comments out of context and making up a story.
Looking at the Osm data it looks fine. This was not the only instance, there were several short cuts down footpaths. I think it will be a fairly quick fix for them. As said above the run/bike flag seems to reversed at points.
Hmmm, Interesting routing issues. I wonder if that's an issue with the router, or the way it's put in the underlying OSM data...
J
Looking at the Osm data it looks fine. This was not the only instance, there were several short cuts down footpaths. I think it will be a fairly quick fix for them. As said above the run/bike flag seems to reversed at points.
Temporarily I am using my own software that now shows my vv squares on an o/s map and does routing using Osm vectors. It too is not without problems as it is a bit cumbersome to edit routes and when I generated my vv squares from my downloaded strava archive, I have 0.3% less than officially on vv, due possibly to rounding differences.
That would not explain it using the road rather than the footpath when set to “run”
Looking at the Osm data it looks fine. This was not the only instance, there were several short cuts down footpaths. I think it will be a fairly quick fix for them. As said above the run/bike flag seems to reversed at points.
Temporarily I am using my own software that now shows my vv squares on an o/s map and does routing using Osm vectors. It too is not without problems as it is a bit cumbersome to edit routes and when I generated my vv squares from my downloaded strava archive, I have 0.3% less than officially on vv, due possibly to rounding differences.
It may also be that strava is using the heatmap, and enough people have ignored the fact that you shouldn't cycle down that footpath. I've had this with a few places where it's no cycling, but if you check the heatmap it's used a lot.
J
That would not explain it using the road rather than the footpath when set to “run”
Looking at the Osm data it looks fine. This was not the only instance, there were several short cuts down footpaths. I think it will be a fairly quick fix for them. As said above the run/bike flag seems to reversed at points.
Temporarily I am using my own software that now shows my vv squares on an o/s map and does routing using Osm vectors. It too is not without problems as it is a bit cumbersome to edit routes and when I generated my vv squares from my downloaded strava archive, I have 0.3% less than officially on vv, due possibly to rounding differences.
It may also be that strava is using the heatmap, and enough people have ignored the fact that you shouldn't cycle down that footpath. I've had this with a few places where it's no cycling, but if you check the heatmap it's used a lot.
This is the killer feature of the Strava route editor for me. It's not that it's a particularly nice editor, it's that popularity mode makes the sort of routing decisions that The Kind Of Cyclists Who Use Strava tend to make. Which has a different and frequently quite useful set of flaws to the more common shortest-legal-route or avoiding-major-roads algorithms.
Yeah, this does lead to entertaining issues. You get some really big hot spots on the heat map and think "ooh i can cycle here" so you plot your route along the motorway, assuming there must be some sort of cycle path there... the you discover the Giro went between 2 junctions of that motorway, with it closed off. They all uploaded to Strava, and the 200 riders makes a nice big hot spot...
One feature that I find I've made a request for to every cycle route planner is an "avoid stairs" option. Strava, RwGPS, Komoot, all of them have taken me down stairs at one point or another.
I'm just wary about paying now because of they are struggling then I'll be paying into something that may well disappear.
Which I know I'm not helping their chances by not paying.
I'm just wary about paying now because of they are struggling then I'll be paying into something that may well disappear.Who says they are struggling? They have been losing money for the years, like most other internet companies. Doesn't mean they are going to disappear any time soon. Just seems like DC Rainmaker taking comments out of context and making up a story.
With a likely recession coming, VC funding will increasingly involve having a plan for profit or exit. Maybe even one that's not quite as speculative as before. I assume that the previous premium features being paid model wasn't getting the right numbers.
“As a commercial venture, it has to make money at some point” what a quaint notion.With a likely recession coming, VC funding will increasingly involve having a plan for profit or exit. Maybe even one that's not quite as speculative as before. I assume that the previous premium features being paid model wasn't getting the right numbers.
As a commercial venture, it has to make money at some point so I expect it has always been in their business plan to try to monetise more of their subscribers when they felt they had enough of them signed up and hooked on their product.
Their last investment round was in 2017 so they may well need more funding in the near future. If they can demonstrate a clearer path to profit, or even actual profits, based on their subscriptions, their valuation will be higher. Of course, if they convert fewer than they expected, it will be bad news for their valuation.
This is an interesting article, from just after their last fundraising round:
https://www.businessinsider.com/interview-strava-ceo-james-quarles-social-network-2017-12?r=US&IR=T (https://www.businessinsider.com/interview-strava-ceo-james-quarles-social-network-2017-12?r=US&IR=T)
What it say is that they then planned to transform it from an activity tracker to a social network. Presumably that was in part at least to make it more sticky so that people would be more likely to pay for it.
Interesting comments on its two other revenue sources as well (from the likes of TFL for planning purposes and partners like Rapha for challenges)
...if it's a yellow road it will be surfaced (at least to the local standard) and if its a white road it probably won't be...
I've had some excellent comedy off-roading experiences recently on yellow roads.
Hmmm, Interesting routing issues. I wonder if that's an issue with the router, or the way it's put in the underlying OSM data...
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It's either subscription or it's a feed full of advertising like in Facebook, I'd rather pay some small change to avoid the latter
I'm just wary about paying now because of they are struggling then I'll be paying into something that may well disappear.Who says they are struggling? They have been losing money for the years, like most other internet companies. Doesn't mean they are going to disappear any time soon. Just seems like DC Rainmaker taking comments out of context and making up a story.
With a likely recession coming, VC funding will increasingly involve having a plan for profit or exit. Maybe even one that's not quite as speculative as before. I assume that the previous premium features being paid model wasn't getting the right numbers.
“As a commercial venture, it has to make money at some point” what a quaint notion.
For a system that's basically a pusjotter for cycling/running based willy waving, oddly I'd prefer adverts, that I generally gloss over
For a system that's basically a pusjotter for cycling/running based willy waving, oddly I'd prefer adverts, that I generally gloss over
As far as I aware it is the only repository of "best efforts" up given segments, some of which are of interest to me. For as long as you can't put a number on your back, it's the most meaningful way to see where one stands in the pecking order, including breakdowns for time of the year, age group etc..
Losing that function, leaves the social media aspect only
It doesn't matter to me who is KoM!
It doesn't matter to me who is KoM!
Words of a loser. ;)
Yeah, it took longer than usual (~5 minutes rather than 30 seconds) for segment times to appear on the ride I uploaded yesterday. Presumably the backend's overloaded for some reason.
I uploaded a ride yesterday and initially it said I had 727 achievements which I thought was impressive. They have now all disappeared and it is listing 740 segments with no achievements. Each segment is repeated 4 times.
They surely have an enormous AWS bill from doing all the segment matching jiggery pokery. The statement they put out even mentioned wanting to cut back on backend processing costs. Maybe they've scaled it back too far.
It's most likely being killed for either memory or power saving reasons. It's not the fault of the app developers - iOS and Android are both very aggressive about doing so and don't give the apps or users any ability to overrideIt has to be said, Elemnt (and BOLT/ROAM) runs android! But obviously that's modified, with one app holding focus.
iOS was good for a period but has gone downhill recently. Some Android handset makers have their own power saving systems that they make very hard to switch off.
They surely have an enormous AWS bill from doing all the segment matching jiggery pokery. The statement they put out even mentioned wanting to cut back on backend processing costs. Maybe they've scaled it back too far.As many of the devices recording are “segment aware” this could largely be done on trusted clients.
https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/360042581811-Segment-Matching-and-Achievement-DelaysDon't do this if you can hear banjos.
Nice suggestion of "Get out of the boat and get back in the boat." to try and fix it though.
Strava - I don’t currently pay them, though I do pay veloviewer and made the odd voluntary donation to mycyclinglog which I used before as a, well, log. As a software developer I’m ok with paying for software when I’ve established it’s value. Paying with money, as opposed to adverts or selling data I create.
I do look at the bits where I’ve gone faster than before, but I don’t think I trouble any of the leaderboards. I don’t currently use an HRM (but might one day) or plan my routes there. I like the social side, seeing what friends away from here are up to. I’m not sure which of those features I like enough to pay for.
The new default map render has no railway lines and no stations on it. This makes it really difficult to plan a ride to a train station. Not sure what the person who made this decision was thinking. Not pleased.
The new default map render has no railway lines and no stations on it. This makes it really difficult to plan a ride to a train station. Not sure what the person who made this decision was thinking. Not pleased.
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We hit a road block, but our team is working on an alternate route.
You just lost the title of Local Legend on Nobbly bottom. David Wylie's 4 efforts set the new bar for the most attempts completed on that segment in the past 90 days.
Time for you to get back out there!
Nobbly bottom
Sadly I’ve had two disasters with Komoot and corrupt files. Both on winter DIYs. One sent me off road up (way up) Cadbury Camp instead of a nice flat route to Bristol.
RWGPS is solid. You know where you are. No surprises.
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So this "Local Legends" crap - how shit is that?I think its a nice idea. Most people have no chance of getting a KOM, as the top results are full of serious roadies, or pros, or extreme tailwinds, or cheating. But you could get a local legend if you go out and ride your local routes a few times. Even if you are not very fast.
I reckon it boils down to two categories - first, it'll catch the dullards who really do ride the same roads over and over again, and second, folk who are commuting, or who only have one or two decent routes in and out of their house.
Really hope I don't see myself up there anytime ;D
So this "Local Legends" crap - how shit is that?
I reckon it boils down to two categories - first, it'll catch the dullards who really do ride the same roads over and over again, and second, folk who are commuting, or who only have one or two decent routes in and out of their house.
The IQ app is transferring a .fit file to the 1030 not a .tcx and it cannot be truncated during transfer as it contains a CRC checksum. Like .tcx it contains summary information. The problem must have occurred during the creation of the .fit file on rwgps.Sadly I’ve had two disasters with Komoot and corrupt files. Both on winter DIYs. One sent me off road up (way up) Cadbury Camp instead of a nice flat route to Bristol.
RWGPS is solid. You know where you are. No surprises.
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I used RWGPS for some tile-bagging ride around the Mendips a few weeks ago. All was fine, and the course (Garmin Edge 1030) was claimed to be the correct length*. But it suddenly ran out at 18km and I had to follow my nose/manually route the Garmin for the rest of the ride. Fortunately it was short enough that I could remember every detour I'd planned for a specific tile, otherwise I'd have been quite peeved.
I'd used the RWGPS IQ app to download the route to the device. The Garmin was also syncing to the phone at the time - perhaps this caused the gremlins. It seemed to be slow to download, but claimed to have succeeded.
* This is a pet peeve. tcx files have metadata such as length of a workout or course embedded, rather than it being worked out on the device from the route. Presumably this is intended to save computation time when displaying such information. But it means that if the file is truncated, it might still claim to be the full distance.
Just noticed you can't opt out of it specifically. I can think of cases where you'd be happy for your rides to be public but not the extra publicity of being a Local Legend.
Sorry for any confusion, we saw that you created multiple support tickets. We merge tickets from the same athlete into one ticket regardless of the topics. This is to ensure we get to your answers as quickly as possible and help prevent any additional delays.
So this "Local Legends" crap - how shit is that?
I reckon it boils down to two categories - first, it'll catch the dullards who really do ride the same roads over and over again, and second, folk who are commuting, or who only have one or two decent routes in and out of their house.
I reckon I'll get a few as I tend to use the same segments at the start/end of many of my runs.
There's also a few segments that are on a relatively flat loop I use for running intervals, so I'll be doing some of those segments 5 or 6 times week.
Does Strava want us all to go public
So this "Local Legends" crap - how shit is that?
I reckon it boils down to two categories - first, it'll catch the dullards who really do ride the same roads over and over again, and second, folk who are commuting, or who only have one or two decent routes in and out of their house.
Really hope I don't see myself up there anytime ;D
I have just uploaded two rides to Strava and it seems to be calculating quite a few of the segment times massively incorrectly. For example one 4k segment that I reckon I have done in just over 7 minutes it reckons that I am KOM with 4:08. A 1.4k climb that I reckon took me about 4:30 is logged as another KOM with 1:31. To my eye the data looks good with no particularly large gaps etc. The only thing that is slightly unusual about these rides is that they were originally one long recording and I used the Strava ride splitter then Strava ride cropper to tidy them up. Is anyone else seeing this sort of behaviour from Strava?
I have raised a ticket but as I haven't had a response to the different issue that I raised over three weeks ago I am not holding my breath...
Strava are now making the Metro data available free of charge. Will be interesting to see if any transport departments or campaign groups etc can make use of it.
https://blog.strava.com/press/metro/
Strava are now making the Metro data available free of charge. Will be interesting to see if any transport departments or campaign groups etc can make use of it.
https://blog.strava.com/press/metro/
I didn't know you you could go to the flyby/viewer link. But it doesnt work for me,
I didn't know you you could go to the flyby/viewer link. But it doesnt work for me,
Flyby is now explicitly an opt-in option on your profile security settings.
I didn't know you you could go to the flyby/viewer link. But it doesnt work for me,
Flyby is now explicitly an opt-in option on your profile security settings.
And not just for new people either, they've turned it off for everyone. You have to go and turn it back on now. I just looked, and while last week I could look at a ride and see 10s of people that I passed while out on a ride, now the list is empty. I wonder if anybody will turn it back on.
Shame they broke a fun feature, just because a few whingers on Twitter don't understand the privacy settings.
Probably the wise thing to do is leave it off.
Shame they broke a fun feature
You can filter segment results for today or this week etc. Makes it quite easy to track people, without even going outside.
Segment results don't give away the time you were there. Flybys made it stupidly easy to track down people you'd seen out and about. I'm amazed it lasted as long as it did.
Segment results don't give away the time you were there. Flybys made it stupidly easy to track down people you'd seen out and about. I'm amazed it lasted as long as it did.
Honestly never occurred to me that people might use it for nefarious purposes... I'm far too innocent.
OK, yeah, I'm going to leave it switched off.
I think it was a misguided attempt to make the Strava ecosystem more “social” but I can’t see any innocent value in knowing where strangers you pass on your ride or run have been or are going.Was a nice way of finding new routes to explore. Or just seeing what other local runners or cyclists are doing, and following them if you want.
If your activity is set as "Everyone", that means other people can see it. Even if you disable flybys, people can easily find it from segment results etc.
I used the flyby feature to find other people who rode the same audax event and give them kudos. Occasionally using it to find someone I rode with for a while and, after looking at their other rides, maybe adding them to my following list.
In general I'm quite "privacy first", but in this case I feel Strava over-reacted; as long as the flyby doesn't show rides marked private or followers-only, opt-out would be better than the opt-in that it is now IMO.
I can’t see any innocent value in knowing where strangers you pass on your ride or run have been or are going.
i understand why celebrities, famous public figures etc. would be concerned about stalking. why should "ordinary" people be worried about stalking?
fwiw, i only log my "proper" rides to strava (none of the utility cycling/commuting) and have a privacy zone set up, plus start and stop the gps some distance away from home.
why should "ordinary" people be worried about stalking?
You should be able to participate in the social aspect of Strava without giving away everything to everyone.
I have never used this but at the bottom right hand corner of the map on the web version of Strava there is an 'Improve this map' button that takes you to a Maps Feedback page.
ETA: just tried it and it appears to be broken :(
Strava probably uses - like everyone else - elevation data based on the SRTM survey, which was created by firing lasers from an orbiting Space Shuttle. This has some interesting anomalies anywhere there are tall buildings, trees, bodies of water, etc. There are various cleaned up versions around but it's unlikely Strava cares enough to use the best one.No, strava use mainly community averaged data from people’s gps units that have barometric altimeters, So Averaged data from many strava users.
This will be a completely separate to the base "map", so suggesting improvements to that won't help.
Does the extra elevation show up in your own activity's elevation profile/total, or, just in the list of segments?
No, strava use mainly community averaged data from people’s gps units that have barometric altimeters, So Averaged data from many strava users.
The segment system doesn't seem to have changed at all in the 5+ years I've been using it, so presumably it's held together by duct tape and twine and the ghosts of long gone employees and no one dares touch it.
Any worthwhile new functionality along with the new edition Strava app?
Any worthwhile new functionality along with the new edition Strava app?
Search function that means I can find a ride I did years ago without having to scroll back in time.
The segment system doesn't seem to have changed at all in the 5+ years I've been using it, so presumably it's held together by duct tape and twine and the ghosts of long gone employees and no one dares touch it.
Also consider the sheer quantity of 'feedback' they'd receive from People Who Care About Segments if they tweaked the algorithm in any way that affected the results.
The segment system doesn't seem to have changed at all in the 5+ years I've been using it, so presumably it's held together by duct tape and twine and the ghosts of long gone employees and no one dares touch it.
Also consider the sheer quantity of 'feedback' they'd receive from People Who Care About Segments if they tweaked the algorithm in any way that affected the results.
That's easy their response to everything is "we're a start up and..."
Seems quite slick at going through previous rides and route collection. Might be better if I hadn’t left 99% of my rides called “morning ride”
Seems quite slick at going through previous rides and route collection. Might be better if I hadn’t left 99% of my rides called “morning ride”
You can in the new app. When you click on search by title or description it then allows filtering by date, distance, time, elevation. Unfortunately the filtering by distance facility does not consider the long distance community.Seems quite slick at going through previous rides and route collection. Might be better if I hadn’t left 99% of my rides called “morning ride”
I’d prefer it, if I could just pull up rides from certain dates. I like to compare similar rides a year apart to see how my averages are holding up (or not)
OK, hands up, who broke strava?
Apparently, I am now the "local legend" on "Butlers bottom" and "Up the bog hole". I'm sure this is something to be proud of.