Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => Audax => Topic started by: Cudzoziemiec on 01 January, 2019, 06:17:24 pm
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Okay, so you've done your SR, ultra, hyper, multiple RRTYs, PBP, LEL, and have more AAA and OCD points than a pre-synthetic chamois. So what's next? This is a thread to collect the off-beat and alternative challenges available to the determined randonneur.
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Audax Randonneur Series Extraordinaire
Awarded in recognition of truly extraordinary "hors de series" achievements.
Extraordinary Local Brevet for Overseas Wheelers
It's important to distinguish between this and the Audax Randonneur Series Extraordinaire.
Certificate of Outstanding Distance Performed under Influence of Excessive Chemical Enhancement
Points are awarded on a cumulative scale for rides of 200km or more using at least one of the following: for each item on the UCI banned list – 1 point, for each prescription medicine – 2 points, for each Class C, B, A drug – 3, 4, 5 points respectively. Any rider qualifying for this award is entitled to walk with a certain swagger.
Certificate of Outstanding Duration in Pursuit of Intensified Sensual Stimuli
The CODPISS is awarded to encourage members to make maximum use of shared bus shelters or "audax hotels". Proof of passages is photographic and will be posted to aukdarkweb.net.
Brevet for Own Lunch, Leaving Out Cafes and Kitchen Stops
My personal favourite. A panel of judges awards points for quality, quantity and presentation of riders' packed lunches.
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I once found a postcard depicting beans on toast and turned it into a faux brevet card.
I suggest a beans on toast stamp for every control that offers b-o-t and an award for brevet b-o-t.
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There was me thinking randoneur 100000 would be keeping people busy enough!
The audax lunch award sounds good though I'd make it for the most extravagant tea set and luncheon to be carried fron the depart and partaken in a bus stop.
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Personal experience...
For the "committed", particularly those of us with a checkbox mentality, it is inevitable that one gets to a stage where the standard fare is stultifying.
At which point, the biggest challenge is actually to keep on doing brevets. And perhaps even cycling.
If truth be told, I've yet to find the magic formula to get beyond my ennui, so reading this thread with interest. Some things I've tried are Raids and cyclo-touring, with varying success. The former is particularly satisfying and my eye has often been attracted by some of the French CTC (FTTC) events, such as the Montagnarde rides or the diagonales. The Raid Permanents also look like fun. Time and access are, however, an excuse reason for not doing these (yet).
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Personal experience...
For the "committed", particularly those of us with a checkbox mentality, it is inevitable that one gets to a stage where the standard fare is stultifying.
At which point, the biggest challenge is actually to keep on doing brevets. And perhaps even cycling.
If truth be told, I've yet to find the magic formula to get beyond my ennui, so reading this thread with interest. Some things I've tried are Raids and cyclo-touring, with varying success. The former is particularly satisfying and my eye has often been attracted by some of the French CTC (FTTC) events, such as the Montagnarde rides or the diagonales. The Raid Permanents also look like fun. Time and access are, however, an excuse reason for not doing these (yet).
For us newbies, what are raids?
J
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E.g. http://www.ccb-cyclo.fr/raid_pyreneen.html (http://www.ccb-cyclo.fr/raid_pyreneen.html)
Other flavours include Alps and Dolomites
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A Raid is basically a mountainous permanent. Some are organised by local clubs but are recorded by Audax Club Parisien, albeit not as audax events. Raid Pyrenee is the most famous (100 hours to ride along the Pyrenees, with checkpoints in places that ensure you cross most of the famous cols). Others are the Alpine raids, one of which is from Nice to Geneva and the other leg is from Geneva to Udine, and the Corsican Raid (basically around Corsica).
They are different in regulation to the Raid Permanentes, which have a more direct link to Audax Club Parisien (to the extent that they introduced them as a new class of rides 5 years ago, which AUK then added as the list of events in its regulations; latest Arrivee had a write up of someone from Ireland doing the Welsh one and MarcusJB of this forum has done the Pyrenean one).
The Diagonales are permanent events of around 1000km each, which go diagonally across France (they are specified by their start and end town, which are defined). These are audax brevets, from memory. They used to be a "thing" amongst experienced French randonneurs but have fallen out of fashion in recent years (I believe). They are a bit like LEJOG in intent.
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There was me thinking randoneur 100000 would be keeping people busy enough!
The audax lunch award sounds good though I'd make it for the most extravagant tea set and luncheon to be carried fron the depart and partaken in a bus stop.
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This is very much the idea! Both extravagant and elegant, hopefully.
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I once found a postcard depicting beans on toast and turned it into a faux brevet card.
I suggest a beans on toast stamp for every control that offers b-o-t and an award for brevet b-o-t.
But is it beans-on-brevet-on-toast or brevet-on-beans-on-toast? Or perhaps beans-on-toast-on-brevet? This could be every bit as controversial as cream v jam on scones.
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There are also things like the Relais de France which are a series of ACP perms linking the perimeter cities of France and the Fleche de France linking those cities with Paris. There is a shield for completing all 20 FdF with spaces to mount each of the individual ride medallions. You can only ride a special 21st FdF route after completing all 20 different FdF.
http://www.audax-club-parisien.com/FR/index.php?showpage=331
Various individual clubs like US Metro have their own perms registered with the FFCT, their biggest being the Tour de France Randonneur and Cyclotouriste.
http://club.quomodo.com/usmetro-cyclotourisme/nos-randonnees/tour-de-france.html
HK and I are working our way towards UAF's top award (eagle mantlepiece statue), which requires 3 Aigle d'Or awards. A third PBP Audax in 2021 and some shorter brevets before then should do it.
We've been one ride short of ACP's R10000 for 3 years now but aim to knock it off this year.
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Audax Randonneur Series Extraordinaire
Awarded in recognition of truly extraordinary "hors de series" achievements.
Extraordinary Local Brevet for Overseas Wheelers
It's important to distinguish between this and the Audax Randonneur Series Extraordinaire.
Certificate of Outstanding Distance Performed under Influence of Excessive Chemical Enhancement
Points are awarded on a cumulative scale for rides of 200km or more using at least one of the following: for each item on the UCI banned list – 1 point, for each prescription medicine – 2 points, for each Class C, B, A drug – 3, 4, 5 points respectively. Any rider qualifying for this award is entitled to walk with a certain swagger.
Certificate of Outstanding Duration in Pursuit of Intensified Sensual Stimuli
The CODPISS is awarded to encourage members to make maximum use of shared bus shelters or "audax hotels". Proof of passages is photographic and will be posted to aukdarkweb.net.
Brevet for Own Lunch, Leaving Out Cafes and Kitchen Stops
My personal favourite. A panel of judges awards points for quality, quantity and presentation of riders' packed lunches.
Barakta and I were thinking about this at 3am (as you do):
Certificate Of Outstanding Proof Of Passage - For particularly creative or determined attempts. Receipts for the purchase of items that are impractical to carry a long way on a bicycle are positively encouraged. Celebrity signatures on brevet cards are only accepted if the celebrity's presence is unconnected to the event, and the validation secretary has final say on whether they actually count as a celebrity.
Brevet For Wandering Wildlife - Awarded by default for those who go on to complete a ride after a thorough wowbadgering, dog bite, bee sting, ASBO goose attack, deer strike or similar. But also available to those who are substantially delayed by herds of cattle, having to coral a spooked horse, helping to rescue a trapped sheep, having to stare down leopards, etc.
Audax Alcohol Award - Hopefully this one's self-explanatory.
Audax Allergy Award - With bonus points awarded for performance-limiting side-effects of steroids and antihistamines. Rides featuring garden centre cafes as controls may be particularly well-suited for accumulating AAA points.
The Von Broad Award For Welding Wheelers - Points awarded for every 100km completed after bodging what would normally considered to be a catastrophic mechanical. Not to be confused with the Alsopp Certificate For Creative Use Of Cable Ties.
Certificate Of Outstanding DNF - Awarded to riders who find the most improbable ways of rendering themselves hors de combat. Injuries are only recognised if they are not sustained while riding a bicycle - crashes don't qualify, but hospitalising yourself with third-degree burns while attempting to qualify for the Von Broad Award For Welding Wheelers might. Being called away to a work or family emergency is unlikely to qualify unless the emergency is itself interesting and improbable. Having to assist at a birth in a bus shelter certainly counts, unless the baby is non-human, in which case the Brevet For Wandering Wildlife should be awarded instead.
Super Boulanger - Awarded to those who serve CAKE (or other baked goods) at controls for separate 200km, 300km, 400km and 600km events in a single season.
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Excellent ideas there, Kim, and as it happens I have a couple of ideas inspired by you:
Kilovolts Into Miles Wheeled
This badge for electric bike rides is made in shiny copper and presented in a strong rubber presentation case.
Brevet Audax Randonneur Award for Keen Technological Assistance
Self eplanatory!
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In a way, it would be better if AUK made some awards available based on time. For instance there could be aspecial SR award for completing a series in 72 cumulative hours (3 days). Difficult to administer of course, but it could be based on claims, rather than being automatically awarded.
That would offer a different type of incentive, for those who can do 600 km, but are not necessarily inclined to repeat the ordeal of a long brevet every other weekend in order to achieve some Rando-crazy award.
Basically more "Gran Turismo"
I worked out I will probably get bored before ever achieving an Ultra and I don't have the time to dedicate to an Hyper... let alone any point based classification.
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Spirit Of Randonneuring Achievement Acute Resting Seat Ache
For completing a ride when you no longer know if hurts less standing up or sitting down, every other contact point is tingly and numb and it's been like that since you can remember
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Spirit Of Randonneuring Achievement Acute Resting Seat Ache
For completing a ride when you no longer know if hurts less standing up or sitting down, every other contact point is tingly and numb and it's been like that since you can remember
But isn't that normal?
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This is what I'm trying to complete (starting March 2016 and hopefully complete by the end of August):
RANDONNEUR 10000 (AUDAX CLUB PARISIEN)
* a new award for those randonneurs who have completed 10,000 km in ACP [qualifying] events
QUALIFYING EVENTS The qualifying events must be completed within a six year period, beginning on the date of the first qualifying event. To qualify for this award, the randonneur must complete :
2 full series of ACP brevets (200, 300, 400, 600 and 1000 km) - Longer brevets cannot be substituted for shorter ones
1 PARIS-BREST-PARIS Randonneur
Another 1200 km + event homologated by Les Randonneurs Mondiaux
1 FLECHE VELOCIO or National arrow The achieved mileage is used (i.e. if the team went further than the minimum qualifying distance of 360 km). At least 3 riders must finish the Flèche (you cannot individually claim for your ridden mileage if your team was not successful). International randonneurs can ride a Flèche Nationale homologated by the ACP and organized in accordance with the rules for the Flèche Vélocio.
1 SUPER RANDONNEE i.e. a permanent of 600 km and at least 10,000 m (32.800 ft) of climbing, homologated by the Audax Club Parisien, ridden in the Randonneur division.
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Audax Alcohol Award - hopefully this one's self-explanatory.
Not had an Audax to Brandy Wharf for long time. Debateble whether to take tent and carry on drinking or complete the brevet. :facepalm:
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In a way, it would be better if AUK made some awards available based on time. For instance there could be aspecial SR award for completing a series in 72 cumulative hours (3 days). Difficult to administer of course, but it could be based on claims, rather than being automatically awarded.
No no no. Going faster makes your ride less audacious as there is more time to eat/sleep and less time under the weather etc.
There's the 100 hour SR series 1500km @ 15km/h = 100 hours
Though of course the fast bastards people could merely loiter outside the last control of each ride rather than actually needing the 100 hours.
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I think there should be a Permanents Round Allsorts of Things Series award. Things that randonneurs could ride round to get this award could include a number of lakes, bigger mountains and smaller countries. Lots of randonneurs might qualify for this award.
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Audax Alcohol Award - Hopefully this one's self-explanatory.
That would be different from the Audax After Hours Award?
I expect we all have tales to tell - I though central Lincoln was particularly lively at 4 am on a Sunday morning!
And many a 24hr McDonalds could provide sufficient footage for a reality TV show.
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This is what I'm trying to complete (starting March 2016 and hopefully complete by the end of August):
RANDONNEUR 10000 (AUDAX CLUB PARISIEN)
* a new award for those randonneurs who have completed 10,000 km in ACP [qualifying] events
QUALIFYING EVENTS The qualifying events must be completed within a six year period, beginning on the date of the first qualifying event. To qualify for this award, the randonneur must complete :
2 full series of ACP brevets (200, 300, 400, 600 and 1000 km) - Longer brevets cannot be substituted for shorter ones
1 PARIS-BREST-PARIS Randonneur
Another 1200 km + event homologated by Les Randonneurs Mondiaux
1 FLECHE VELOCIO or National arrow The achieved mileage is used (i.e. if the team went further than the minimum qualifying distance of 360 km). At least 3 riders must finish the Flèche (you cannot individually claim for your ridden mileage if your team was not successful). International randonneurs can ride a Flèche Nationale homologated by the ACP and organized in accordance with the rules for the Flèche Vélocio.
1 SUPER RANDONNEE i.e. a permanent of 600 km and at least 10,000 m (32.800 ft) of climbing, homologated by the Audax Club Parisien, ridden in the Randonneur division.
I'm personally working on the ISR. I've got 2 countries so far, I'm hoping to add a Belgian 600 to the list this summer, which will leave me with a need to do either a 300 or 400 in another country (Germany or UK), to hit the target.
For me to do the ACP RANDONNEUR 10000 and ACP RANDONNEUR 5000, I'm gonna have to wait until September at the earliest to start, as I'm not going to make this years PBP (unless I fail to get into the TCR). I'd like to give them a go, but I'm gonna have to get faster, I'm way too close to the time limit on the 200's and 300's I've been doing, so the jump to 400's and 600's and thence onto 1000's+, is going to be really hard, if I can't find something in my average moving speed.
I think there should be a Permanents Round Allsorts of Things Series award. Things that randonneurs could ride round to get this award could include a number of lakes, bigger mountains and smaller countries. Lots of randonneurs might qualify for this award.
It's not a perm, but Randonneurs.nl has the Zuiderzee Ballad, in April, that's a 400km calendar event starting and finishing in Amsterdam, with a lap of the Zuiderzee/Ijsselmeer.
I did do a DIY in the summer where I did a lap of Flevopolder, which was a bit of a slog on the headwind bit (all of the northern side of the polder).
J
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I think there should be a Permanents Round Allsorts of Things Series award. Things that randonneurs could ride round to get this award could include a number of lakes, bigger mountains and smaller countries. Lots of randonneurs might qualify for this award.
This would intersect nicely with the Brevet Around the Low Lands Series.
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I think there should be a Permanents Round Allsorts of Things Series award. Things that randonneurs could ride round to get this award could include a number of lakes, bigger mountains and smaller countries. Lots of randonneurs might qualify for this award.
Something like the RRA's circuit records. http://www.rra.org.uk/index.html?ifrm_1=circuitrecords.html
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In a way, it would be better if AUK made some awards available based on time. For instance there could be aspecial SR award for completing a series in 72 cumulative hours (3 days). Difficult to administer of course, but it could be based on claims, rather than being automatically awarded.
No no no. Going faster makes your ride less audacious as there is more time to eat/sleep and less time under the weather etc.
There's the 100 hour SR series 1500km @ 15km/h = 100 hours
Though of course the fast bastards people could merely loiter outside the last control of each ride rather than actually needing the 100 hours.
I don't understand your resentment towards people who cycle quicker than you. It's not the first time and you are profoundly wrong on this. There is no virtue in being slow or fast, it is just a fact of life that someone is fitter and therefore faster.
The same people might run out of AUK projects, once they achieve an SR, simply because more demanding awards require a disproportionate availability of time (and occasionally money) that not everybody has.
Hence my suggestion to make available an award for completing a series in a more restrictive time window than the current... why not?
Certainly asking people to cycle slower to make it more challenging is not a proposition many would sign up to.
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I thought it was more amusing than resentful, really (I have met Arabella, though she probably won't remember, which is as it should be). For fitter and faster, I think we can usually read "younger" - probably a lot younger, in my case.
Peter
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If you're fit and able to ride fast, then you're inherently playing on 'easy mode', for the reason arabella states: You get more time to rest/digest/deal with mechanicals/etc.
On that basis, it doesn't seem entirely unreasonable for there to be a 'difficult mode' to challenge the faster riders.
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On that basis, it doesn't seem entirely unreasonable for there to be a 'difficult mode' to challenge the faster riders.
Yes, another way would be to have something similar to the "Vedettes" in PBP... a shorter time frame... say 9 hours for a 200, 18 for a 400 and 27 for a 600, which would be a pretty hard target
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The Yanks beat you to it. They piggyback off RUSA results.
http://cyclosmontagnards.org/R80Rules.html
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The Yanks beat you to it. They piggyback off RUSA results.
http://cyclosmontagnards.org/R80Rules.html
yep... R60 is brutal... :o
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A few more options:
Off-Road 'Dacious Award for Cycling Silliness
Yes, points for comedy off-road!
Over-Weight Dieting Audax Cycling Slimmers
1 point for each complete kilogram bodyweight lost over a season, starting at 2 points for 2kg, obviously.
Other Half enDurance Award for Cycling Support
To recognise riders' non-cycling partners putting up with all this silliness.
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Most Mediocre. An award for the rider who's nearest to the beating heart of Audax cycling.
This award has the advantage of the possibility of endless debate about its statistical base.
Should it be the mean, median or mode?
Should it be restricted to those who have ridden an event?
The number crunching to arrive at the most representative participant would be a useful survey in itself.
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Have we got a trophy for the flattest SR* of the season? Fewest meters of climb wins, with some extra compensation for rides that are overall downhill.
* other combinations of distances work just as well.
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Have we got a trophy for the flattest SR* of the season? Fewest meters of climb wins, with some extra compensation for rides that are overall downhill.
And bonus fear-of-heights points for doing it on a low recumbent? :D
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LRRTY - Lanterne Rouge Round The Year. Only for calendar events - and not as easy as it sounds. GPS tracks will be analysed to ensure no more than 5 minutes spent stationary in the last 10 km.
For the DIY by GPS ninjas :
Prime Randonneur - a series of 211, 307, 401 and 601 km. Precisely. No road ridden twice in either direction. Start point = end point
Super Non Randonneur - a series of 199, 299, 399 and 599 km. Rules as above.
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Most Mediocre. An award for the rider who's nearest to the beating heart of Audax cycling.
This award has the advantage of the possibility of endless debate about its statistical base.
Should it be the mean, median or mode?
Should it be restricted to those who have ridden an event?
The number crunching to arrive at the most representative participant would be a useful survey in itself.
It couldn't be mode. The average audaxer is far from fashionable. On the other hand it also couldn't be mean, as that while that would close to the old school of bread bags on heads, it would rule out those with carbon and titanium bling. So it has to be median, though far from the median strip.
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Super Non Randonneur - a series of 199, 299, 399 and 599 km. Rules as above.
Now there's a challenge I like the sound of!
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LRRTY - Lanterne Rouge Round The Year. Only for calendar events - and not as easy as it sounds. GPS tracks will be analysed to ensure no more than 5 minutes spent stationary in the last 10 km.
FINALLY! One I actually have a chance at! I've been Lantern rouge on all calendar events, except for 1 (I'm not sure what happened with that one...). I thought I was maybe not Lantern Rouge on the Belgium ice adventure, but the 2 still out on the road when I finished ended up over time.
Have we got a trophy for the flattest SR* of the season? Fewest meters of climb wins, with some extra compensation for rides that are overall downhill.
* other combinations of distances work just as well.
I think those of us riding in .NL get this by default. A 300 with 696m of ascent (Mostly bridges I think) (Maasland 300). I had a DIY 200 with 86m of ascent.
I am doing them on an upwrong tho, so no total fear of heights award...
J
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Have we got a trophy for the flattest SR* of the season? Fewest meters of climb wins, with some extra compensation for rides that are overall downhill.
And bonus fear-of-heights points for doing it on a low recumbent? :D
Should be worth at least half a meter climbing on per control :thumbsump:
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If you're fit and able to ride fast, then you're inherently playing on 'easy mode', for the reason arabella states: You get more time to rest/digest/deal with mechanicals/etc.
On that basis, it doesn't seem entirely unreasonable for there to be a 'difficult mode' to challenge the faster riders.
If the riders are prepared to do the legwork/admin* (i.e. not the event organisers), I guess this is pretty harmless; and there may be an advantage for the "medicore" too:
it might put a brake on the climbing inflation that we are seeing in the UK calendar over recent years.
*I suspect that's how the RUSA scheme works?
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Over-Weight Dieting Audax Cycling Slimmers
1 point for each complete kilogram bodyweight lost over a season, starting at 2 points for 2kg, obviously.
Ooh, 15 points please! Do I get 17 as I put on a couple of kilos again, then lost them again?
J
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Over-Weight Dieting Audax Cycling Slimmers
1 point for each complete kilogram bodyweight lost over a season, starting at 2 points for 2kg, obviously.
Ooh, 15 points please! Do I get 17 as I put on a couple of kilos again, then lost them again?
J
Sorry, no. It's measurements from start to end of season that count. Gotta be strict about these things, otherwise everyone will be making false claims for the amazing prizes! ;D
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The R80/70/60 thing is specifically not a RUSA thing. It is a group that recognises fast results by North Americans in RUSA brevets.
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LRRTY - Lanterne Rouge Round The Year. Only for calendar events - and not as easy as it sounds. GPS tracks will be analysed to ensure no more than 5 minutes spent stationary in the last 10 km.
FINALLY! One I actually have a chance at! I've been Lantern rouge on all calendar events, except for 1 (I'm not sure what happened with that one...). I thought I was maybe not Lantern Rouge on the Belgium ice adventure, but the 2 still out on the road when I finished ended up over time.
We'd better keep you in the Netherlands, or else IanN will have too much competition (he's already got me and, the most cunning and determined of the lot, Roger from S. Wales notp).
Have we got a trophy for the flattest SR* of the season? Fewest meters of climb wins, with some extra compensation for rides that are overall downhill.
* other combinations of distances work just as well.
I think those of us riding in .NL get this by default. A 300 with 696m of ascent (Mostly bridges I think) (Maasland 300). I had a DIY 200 with 86m of ascent.
I am doing them on an upwrong tho, so no total fear of heights award...
J
Those figures are insane! From home to Gloucester on the main road feels dead flat to ride but RWGPS tells me it's 347m climbed for 52km (but it is still a net downhill of 23m so should qualify for something).
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The R80/70/60 thing is specifically not a RUSA thing. It is a group that recognises fast results by North Americans in RUSA brevets.
Well it wouldn't happen WITHOUT RUSA, would it?!? :P
[I think if you re-read the relevant posts you will see that we are more-or-less on the same page here ... ]
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RUSA specifically does not recognise different categories of finishers and opposed the R80/ 70/ 60 thing but worked out that they couldn't stop others from categorising publicly available results. On the other hand, some French brevet results recognise gold, silver and bronze standards but not BRMs.
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Certainly asking people to cycle slower to make it more challenging is not a proposition many would sign up to.
Is what I was getting at!
Meanwhile, the missing smilies from my previous post ;D :P
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A challenge that appeals in a sadistic sort of way is a daylight SR. The rules are simple. Delays are as BRM but you can only ride in daytime. Clock on at the start before dawn and you have to wait for daylight. Carrying lights and hi-vis is instant disqualification. Variations on this include the Grand Prix de Formule 1 which requires a special brevet card to be stamped in the hotels of that chain (very difficult and may require going considerably over distance).
Associated with this and somewhat easier (except in december) is the daylight RRTY. Same basic rules.
Something like this already exists in cyclomontagnardes which is the sport catégorie, starting at dawn and finishing at dusk.
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RUSA specifically does not recognise different categories of finishers and opposed the R80/ 70/ 60 thing but worked out that they couldn't stop others from categorising publicly available results. On the other hand, some French brevet results recognise gold, silver and bronze standards but not BRMs.
I think the gold silver and bronze thing is (or was) an award system in UFOLEP sportives.
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Yes but also some brevets, calendar and perms.
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A challenge that appeals in a sadistic sort of way is a daylight SR. The rules are simple. Delays are as BRM but you can only ride in daytime. Clock on at the start before dawn and you have to wait for daylight. Carrying lights and hi-vis is instant disqualification.
While I like the idea, this bit seems unreasonable. Plenty of perfectly sensible cycling clothing (eg. Altura waterproof jackets) might fit your definition of hi-vis. Removing permanently installed lighting from your bike for a one-off ride is overkill, and carrying lights if you're going to be out around sunset is just prudent in case circumstances arise that make getting to civilisation more important than successfully completing some arbitrary challenge.
Enforce daylight riding by control times or GPS validation; no need to ban safety gear.
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Weight weeney award: no equipment attached to your bike save 2x bottles (no cheating and using one as a bag!), mudguards, a front and rear light, and a head unit. No saddlebags, no top tube bags, no aero bars, nothing. All food, spares, pump etc to go in jersey pockets.
Extra hardcore; no head unit, no spare tubes (repair kit only).
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And its corollary, the Kitchen Sink award...
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That was me in the FFF500 :(
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Weight weeney award: no equipment attached to your bike save 2x bottles (no cheating and using one as a bag!), mudguards, a front and rear light, and a head unit. No saddlebags, no top tube bags, no aero bars, nothing. All food, spares, pump etc to go in jersey pockets.
Extra hardcore; no head unit, no spare tubes (repair kit only).
;D
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Weight weeney award: no equipment attached to your bike save 2x bottles (no cheating and using one as a bag!), mudguards, a front and rear light, and a head unit. No saddlebags, no top tube bags, no aero bars, nothing. All food, spares, pump etc to go in jersey pockets.
Extra hardcore; no head unit, no spare tubes (repair kit only).
Rode for a little with such a rider al last year LWL 400... he had nothing with him... nothing more than your usual dog-bollox sized mini-saddle bag with an inner tube. As far as I know he finished quite early and all went well for him.
Common sight in BP and some BR 200, but it was a first for me on a long brevet
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Yes, it's much more of a challenge on a ride that takes you, say, 20hrs+ (or 12hrs+ in proper winter).
( But then most restrictions are easier to ride with over 100km than 400km )
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My ACP Randonneur 5000 certificate and medal have arrived, together with a note from Chris Crossland - thank you, Chris - saying that 311 of the ACP R5000s were awarded worldwide this year. Rides completed between May 2018 and August 2019.
http://www.audax-club-parisien.com/EN/382.html
I have to complete an SR600 (hilly) to achieve ACP's R10000: everything else done but 2 x wraps in 2019 (CET's Cambrian 6C and Sophie Matter's Haute Provence) means this is unfinished business. I've entered @Will P's new 'Devilishly Elegant' SR600 and will ride that in the summer (after BCM).
http://www.audax-club-parisien.com/EN/462.html
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Weight weeney award: no equipment attached to your bike save 2x bottles (no cheating and using one as a bag!), mudguards, a front and rear light, and a head unit. No saddlebags, no top tube bags, no aero bars, nothing. All food, spares, pump etc to go in jersey pockets.
Extra hardcore; no head unit, no spare tubes (repair kit only).
Rode for a little with such a rider al last year LWL 400... he had nothing with him... nothing more than your usual dog-bollox sized mini-saddle bag with an inner tube. As far as I know he finished quite early and all went well for him.
Common sight in BP and some BR 200, but it was a first for me on a long brevet
I did that on asparagus and strawberries last year. Weather forecast was benign, b&b booked at 300km, no riding in the dark.
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I have to complete an SR600 (hilly) to achieve ACP's R10000: everything else done but 2 x wraps in 2019 (CET's Cambrian 6C and Sophie Matter's Haute Provence) means this sung unfinished business
I'm weighing up an attempt on one of these, can you comment on relative difficulty? Cambrian is obviously easier logistically as I can drive to the start in 2 hours, but haute province has a lot of appeal like better climate, potentially fewer climbs >10%, riding somewhere new, ventoux
I have also noticed a new one in Vancouver that sounds great, although expensive to get to.
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I'm hoping to wrap up my ACP R10,000 this year, with the Cambrian 6C booked in for June.
I'm also down for the Devilishly Elegant at the end of May, as a warm-up!
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I have to complete an SR600 (hilly) to achieve ACP's R10000: everything else done but 2 x wraps in 2019 (CET's Cambrian 6C and Sophie Matter's Haute Provence) means this sung unfinished business
I'm weighing up an attempt on one of these, can you comment on relative difficulty? Cambrian is obviously easier logistically as I can drive to the start in 2 hours, but haute province has a lot of appeal like better climate, potentially fewer climbs >10%, riding somewhere new, ventoux
In reasonable conditions (September was recommended to me for France - too hot in the summer) I would judge they were about the same difficulty, though the French one offered fantastic novel scenery, and as you note, the opportunity to tick off Mont Ventoux. My speed made good was about the same, on Day1. The French descents were so much more efficient in the use of hard-gained potential energy. I used the same low gear: 25", for both rides.
I travelled down there (effectively to Aix-en-Provence and a 80km ride up to Manosque) and back using OuiGo trains (TGV speed) which are extremely cheap - with the caveat that one has to bag one's bike (to less dimensions than 'normal bike bag') (travel costs about £140 return from Newhaven). I used my bivvi bag as the cover. A disassembled bike, stored in a specific cover with maximum dimensions of 120 x 90 cm is considered hand luggage and merely requires a reservation but €5 for pre-booked 'additional luggage' option." Wheels, pedals, RD, seat post/saddle, bars off, chainring padded, wrapped, taped and bagged.
Have a look at the other SR600 threads eg this: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=37784.25 (I offer a brief overview of my 'fail' there) and the Cambrian thread where OI and an Irish lady give a good account of themselves/the 6C - this thread (go to Page 24): https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=79290.575
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Completing your audaxes at no higher a HR than the top end of your Zone 2 HR. So no higher than 75% of max. Clearly if you’re doing a hilly one you’ll need low enough gearing to facilitate this.
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There have been a couple of attempts at completing all the Cambrian Series permanents (36 events, 10700km, 172,220m ascent). They've typically foundered as they enter the 300s, which require finding control points in the wee hours either at the start or the finish.