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Title: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 04 December, 2014, 09:48:30 pm
Last year there was a group of yacf-ers who spent January, February & March running as part of Jantastic (https://www.jantastic.me/). This year Jantastic isn't restricted to running; cycling & swimming also count. If there's enough interest I'll set up a yacf team - we need a minimum of six people. The idea of the team is to compete against other teams, with each individual being compared to their own personal targets.

For those who don't know about Jantastic details are below.


Let me know if you want to join a yacf team and I'll set it up. (I'll be doing Jantastic whether there's a yacf team or not as it'll motivate my running over the winter. )
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: swiss hat on 05 December, 2014, 09:12:37 am
I'll be on for Jantastic again Adamski.
Have started the winter XC league fixtures and entered the Steyning Stinger trail marathon on 1/3/15. Jantastic will provide that little extra motivation to get out for the "routine" runs.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 05 December, 2014, 06:55:23 pm
Yeah, I know what you mean about the "routine" runs. I'm doing London marathon again, so anything to help get me out in January and February is a good thing. At least that is six or seven weeks later than Steyning, so it isn't such a rush to get the miles (kilometres?) in at the moment.





The inclusion of cycling in to jantastic should mean this is something a yacf team should find relatively easy to achieve. Come on people, join in the fun :-)


Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 05 December, 2014, 07:27:47 pm
When the ankle is ready I'm planning to run, swim and cycle through the winter and into spring.   No records will be broken so if speed is a necessity count me out but if not then I could commit to two runs, one swim and one cycle each week.   I would achieve that and perhaps exceed the runs or cycles occasionally.

I'll cogitate.     
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 05 December, 2014, 08:00:06 pm
This is not about speed, apart from one event in March (and for that event you set the target for that event. Decide you want to do 5km in 33 mins and that is what you achieve then you get a thumbs up). Mostly it is about you just saying "this week I'll do four runs" and then sticking to that target.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 06 December, 2014, 12:03:24 pm
A yacf team has been set up and I've given it the original name of yacf.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: maxap on 06 December, 2014, 01:07:55 pm
I've joined the yacf team. Should get me out the door in January.
Cheers
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 07 December, 2014, 06:50:30 pm
if my ankle permits I will join Team YACF before January 5th.   
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Swarm_Catcher on 02 January, 2015, 06:59:13 am
I will join again. Thanks for setting up adamski.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 02 January, 2015, 08:34:22 am
OK, so I'm still thinking about joining in even though the ankle is not yet ready to run on.   

Having read the rules it appears that times are not important until month 3 so perhaps I can get away with walking for a week or two before daring to try to run again?
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 02 January, 2015, 11:51:43 am
I'm in. Target: Run 2 Bike 2

The real plan is 3+ runs, and 1 weekend "proper" ride and/or an evening ride. (I will ride 10 commutes most weeks!) But I'm hoping to manage 2 runs a week even with the inevitable niggles that I get whenever I commit to regular runs. If that makes sense ...

Can't remember how Febulous works; will cross that bridge when ...
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 02 January, 2015, 12:15:16 pm
So team yacf is good to go, with the following signed up as of 3rd January:




My January target is 5 runs per week and I pondering whether I should add one swimming session per week as well. Hmm..... one swimming session.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: L CC on 02 January, 2015, 12:54:40 pm
I can't remember what I put, I was feeling all keen when I signed up.
No running though, not allowed.

I better check before Monday.
Didn't we have citoyen too last year?
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: davelodwig on 02 January, 2015, 02:38:33 pm
I've signed up, I need motivation to put on my trainers in the morning my efforts have sucked badly the last 12 months.

D.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 02 January, 2015, 04:12:08 pm
Just seen this post so I've signed up too: 4 runs a week for January (I don't like to commit to cycling at this time of the year cos if it's too icy, I don't cycle - it's not worth crocking yourself for several months...). I may well change my activity by March.

I need something to keep me motivated at this time of year. I was out this morning for a morning jog and found myself being blown backwards at one stage. I had to divert onto a more sheltered route...
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 03 January, 2015, 12:05:03 pm
Team yacf now has nine members. I hope everyone has their January targets set for Monday when the training starts :thumbsup:.

If there's anyone else wanting to join Jantastic then sign up asap!
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 03 January, 2015, 12:21:43 pm
I have joined Jantastic but not yacf yet.   I am concerned that my ankle will not hold up.   Is there a 'latest by' that I can join the team?   I couldn't find anything as such on the Jantastic website.   
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 03 January, 2015, 12:34:42 pm
Oh, I've found it.   Let's see how things feel after my ride tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 06 January, 2015, 02:42:43 pm
The true irony of this rule is that it excludes a large number of sub-30 minute Parkruns

Well, that just means you have to take your time on parkrun...  ;D

I was considering doing Parkrun for the first time on Saturday as my 4th activity of the week. In theory, I should be sub 30 as I can do 5K on the road in under 30. I'm not sure how this will translate though when I move from solo running on tarmac to group running on mixed terrain (which includes walking on water, if the GPS route I've been given is correct - it seems to miss the bridge over the river by a couple of hundred feet !!!).

I'd thought that if I rode down and from parkrun on my bike and included warmup that the combined activity (at least an hour) ought to merit inclusion.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 06 January, 2015, 03:13:48 pm
I note that the rules this year [https://www.jantastic.me/rules/ (https://www.jantastic.me/rules/)] say that each activity has to be >30 minutes which seems slightly less than all-inclusive. I'm sure it used to be just "at least 1 mile". I've got no problem with people who want to log a workout that's less than 30 minutes :thumbsup:

The true irony of this rule is that it excludes a large number of sub-30 minute Parkruns (unless the faster runners include some sort of arbitrary warm-up activity), and one of the founders of MarathonTalk/Jantastic is Tom Williams, who's also a Managing Director on Parkrun [http://www.parkrun.org.uk/aboutus/ (http://www.parkrun.org.uk/aboutus/)] :facepalm:
Then I'm probably out  >:( (don't want to drag the YACF %ages down - or I could join some worse team I suppose!)

It did used to be >1 mile. I can't reliably do 31minute runs without injury.
And even now I can run a parkRun under 27mins.

Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: L CC on 06 January, 2015, 04:16:22 pm
You could make your workout a combined workout- ride to the park and then run?
(And how long is your commute?)

I'm not running at all..
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 06 January, 2015, 04:22:53 pm
So basically team YACF is asking me to cheat?     :o
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 06 January, 2015, 04:33:33 pm
The rules say
Quote
It’s really up to you but we think that as a minimum guide to claim your Jantastic workout then the following simple rules apply:

A Jantastic workout is at least 30 minutes engaged in your chosen activity.

Running = 30 minutes of running or jog/walking.

So, quite clearly, a jog includes the warmup and cool down walk. Would  your run plus warmup and cooldown be less than 30 minutes?
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 06 January, 2015, 05:09:59 pm
I note that the rules this year [https://www.jantastic.me/rules/ (https://www.jantastic.me/rules/)] say that each activity has to be >30 minutes .... I've got no problem with people who want to log a workout that's less than 30 minutes :thumbsup:

I'd seen that and had already decided to ignore that rule.


The true irony of this rule is that it excludes a large number of sub-30 minute Parkruns

That's confirmation I should defiantly run to and/or from ParkRun!
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Pippa on 06 January, 2015, 05:16:59 pm
I note that the rules this year [https://www.jantastic.me/rules/ (https://www.jantastic.me/rules/)] say that each activity has to be >30 minutes .... I've got no problem with people who want to log a workout that's less than 30 minutes :thumbsup:

I'd seen that and had already decided to ignore that rule.

Ditto. I'm almost 100% certain the 750m I swam last night took less than 30 mins of actual swimming. TBH, I'm using some of my cycle commutes towards my goals as a way to make sure I do ride my bike to work in the next few months (which is how I managed to complete 3 of my planned activities yesterday). I see it all more as way to get me into the routine of doing stuff I wasn't doing regularly at the end of last year.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 08 January, 2015, 01:22:39 pm
I don't understand the scoring at all. I'm sure I've logged different amounts for the same exercise each time (30 minutes running/gasping for breath). Does it depend on how many people in your team have logged that session before you?
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Pippa on 08 January, 2015, 01:31:21 pm
The scoring makes no sense to me. I'm sure it will all work out in the end though.

I just logged my run for Tuesday and my 2 x cycle commutes yesterday, bringing my total workouts to 6 (from the 7 targeted) and a pop-up appeared asking if I had *really* done 6 workouts already. Cheeky sods. Errrr yes Jantastic, yes I have.

Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 08 January, 2015, 02:18:58 pm
The scoring makes no sense to me.
Looks fine to me!  :smug:

Quote
I just logged my run for Tuesday and my 2 x cycle commutes yesterday, bringing my total workouts to 6 (from the 7 targeted) and a pop-up appeared asking if I had *really* done 6 workouts already. Cheeky sods. Errrr yes Jantastic, yes I have.
Heh. Yup,  i got the same incredulity.

I believe this is a hangover from when it was only running - very few run twice a day,  so it was a sensible feature.


p.s. I'm only planning runs of exactly 29 mins for the next 3 months. So there!
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 08 January, 2015, 02:24:35 pm
It's not just the quantity that Jantastic queries, but also the time of day. Yesterday I got queried because I tried to log my run as soon as I got back home from it at about 7:15am. Jantastic doesn't seem to believe that people get up early.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 08 January, 2015, 02:32:58 pm
OK, all is working well.   Strava and Jantastic are talking nicely.  I have set myself modest targets of 2 runs and one cycle per week.   I know I can achieve this on a busy week.   I expect to do more but I know that I don't get any credit for doing more.

Anyway, I have joined team yacf.   :smug:   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 08 January, 2015, 03:20:27 pm
And now I have logged my progress to date.   I'm liking this.   8)
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 08 January, 2015, 05:37:47 pm
We appear to be 5th outof 636 teams!

Thsi cant last - i suspect a skew due to us cyclists getting our workouts in so early.  but I could be wrong ...
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Swarm_Catcher on 09 January, 2015, 08:52:08 am
Excellent Mike.

Yep, there's something very odd going on with the scoring. Both MattC and Els have logged 4/4 and yet MattC has scored 8.3 and Els only 4.2. I had a look at random through few other teams and the same thing is happening there. It doesn't seem to matter whether you ran, biked or swam. I recall from last year you should get 8.3 for a completed week (which would add up to ~100 at the end of the challenge).

Would it be weighted to each discipline being met?  I haven't done a swim yet, but am (over-)logging each cycle commute to work.  I might stop logging those since coming back to cycling to work after three months off has been easier than I thought .  I need the initial motivation, but now I'm in :).  I'll count my weekly spin session, two runs and one swim.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 09 January, 2015, 11:30:43 am
Well, I've now logged my 4 runs and come out as 8.3. If I complete my target for each week for the rest of the month it will give me 33.2 - or a third of the total 100. I don't know how they get there, but it seems to be working out about right at the end of the day.

Set myself a target of 4 runs per week for January. Anything extra now is a bonus. I'll think about my February targets in a couple of weeks. I've deliberately kept my January target modest as it's likely that, at towards the end of the month, I'll not be able to get out for 4 or 5 consecutive days. If this all falls within one jantastic week (as opposed to splitting across two), it could be interesting.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 09 January, 2015, 01:35:48 pm
I've just completed my targets for the week and also have a score of 8.3. 
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Swarm_Catcher on 12 January, 2015, 11:13:37 am
Used the Joker already.  It wasn't for lack of motivation that I didn't run on Saturday, so feel ok about it.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 12 January, 2015, 12:58:02 pm
These things happen. Sometimes real life gets in the way and/or it would be stupid to exercise and risk injury.

I don't see anywhere yet to log week 2 activities. I presume that will appear once week 1 closes.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 12 January, 2015, 01:02:15 pm
I had a root around as I have my first activity of the week to log.   You cannot start in the current week until after the deadline for logging activity in the previous week.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 15 January, 2015, 06:36:01 pm
Just logged my rides. (Haven't logged my  run - I can log them as I do them right? i.e. not all in one lump for the week? )
The RH-bar thingy included this:
Philippa G******
Has just logged 17 workouts for week 2 of Jantastic and is feeling Great, I've got this.


17?!!  I bet she's feeling great - go Pippa!
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 15 January, 2015, 08:02:24 pm
It's fubar'd. 

It says that I have just logged five workouts for week 2 whereas I have only logged two for week two and five in total.   
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Pippa on 15 January, 2015, 09:28:45 pm
Just logged my rides. (Haven't logged my  run - I can log them as I do them right? i.e. not all in one lump for the week? )
The RH-bar thingy included this:
Philippa G******
Has just logged 17 workouts for week 2 of Jantastic and is feeling Great, I've got this.


17?!!  I bet she's feeling great - go Pippa!

Heh. Like PB that's my total in the last 2 weeks - certainly not this week alone. And I am logging my commutes so getting quite a few extra workouts (with thanks to teethgrinder for the inspiration to ride).

I am feeling pretty good thobut  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: L CC on 18 January, 2015, 11:33:29 pm
I went a) to my gym for the first time since the GPs ban (lifted by cardiology the week before Christmas),  and b) swimming for the first time in about 4 years. I don't think I've donned a cozzie since I took up with Mr Smith.
I swam for half an hour and might have done 50 lengths but I failed to count properly and went all Rong at 33 and again at 46. It's only a 20m pool.
It's quite dull, really, isn't it? It's probably more interesting if you're better at it,  tbh.
There wasn't an option for 'smug' in how're you feeling, or I might have picked that...

At least I did them this week.  Last week I was trying to work out if I could quit the team to avoid dragging you down to my level.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 19 January, 2015, 12:22:42 pm
I swam for half an hour and might have done 50 lengths but I failed to count properly and went all Rong at 33 and again at 46. It's only a 20m pool.
It's quite dull, really, isn't it? It's probably more interesting if you're better at it,  tbh.

Swimming in a 20 metre pool isn't as dull as swimming in a 50 metre one. With the shorter pool you get more chance to turn round and look at the view in the other direction...  ;D

But yes, I find swimming quite boring too (but it's not as bad as watching someone else do it - spending the weekend watching the kids swim up and down in an overheated moist atmosphere on a hard damp wooden bench used to send me mental.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 19 January, 2015, 06:18:01 pm
At least I did them this week.  Last week I was trying to work out if I could quit the team to avoid dragging you down to my level.
Your status update made me laugh just now - so I vote to keep you in the team. ;)

***REMINDER***
TEAM: you have till 8am TUESDAY. Get 'em logged!
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 22 January, 2015, 07:28:41 pm
It all went a bit Pete Tong yesterday.

33mins into a verrrrrry steady run,  sharp pain on top of my left foot. had a walk,  then found this wasnt susceptible to "running it off". I've had this before (possibly in the other foot too). No pattern to the circs - have to hope it magically re-disappears by Saturday. Deffo no Parkrun - and running after the Sunday club ride is asking for it,  so pre-dinner Saturday looks like my only chance to save this week.

A few hours later I headed out on my bike - front light fell off at the end of our cul-de-sac. Not a good day!
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: L CC on 23 January, 2015, 09:50:54 pm
Are you sure your distance target is that long?

Well yes Jantastic, I know I'm a bit out of shape but yes, I think I can still manage 200km.
I could be wrong though.  And there's always the possibility of Weather. Perhaps I should have said 50- I can happily do that on the ice bike even in Snow.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 23 January, 2015, 10:22:30 pm
They really dont get cycling,  do they. :P

MT's Tom Williams  doesn't ride past 112miles,  so they have a (weak) excuse.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: L CC on 23 January, 2015, 10:27:21 pm
They'll throw a proper wobbly for the last weekend of March...
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 24 January, 2015, 12:00:46 pm
Well, this morning we appear to be 2nd in the small team league. Went out to do Park Run and can't record it because I cycled there and back so didn't log 30 minutes of running. Fortunately I've all my exercises in for this week so it doesn't matter. If I want it to count in future I'm going to have to either run there or go for a very long warm-up run first. I'm currently trying to decide on what's a reasonable distance for me to run to in February.

I'm trying to do Jantastic as a way of motivating me to do some cross training (running in this case) instead of just riding my bike. At the moment I'm deliberately excluding any bike or swim related activities. I've probably got the cardiovascular fitness to run a reasonable distance, but not the muscles. It's 44 years since I've done any serious running, My last race I entered at 17 nearly killed me (literally - slipped on the ice, fell down an embankment, slid under the fence, went over a cliff, landed in the river and then had to swim a quarter mile of grade 4 white water before I could find a spot to climb out - I finished the event, somewhat delayed by my excursion and covered from head to foot in blood). I don't want to overdo it too quickly and injure myself.

My March goal will probably be to do a 10k (not specifying the time yet...) so I was planning in February to slowly ramp up my distance from my current 6k. Ideally, I'd like a progressive goal - distance increasing each week in February, but I don't think Jantastic will let me do that. Therefore I'm going to wimp out and set a distance which would challenge me at the start of February and then build from there. If I go for 10K straight off, I'm in danger of crocking myself, which would be stupid.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 24 January, 2015, 06:19:06 pm
Went out to do Park Run and can't record it because I cycled there and back so didn't log 30 minutes of running.

The 30 min thing is bollocks. Just ignore it. You ran 5 km, which is a run.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: L CC on 24 January, 2015, 08:08:45 pm
Ideally, I'd like a progressive goal - distance increasing each week in February, but I don't think Jantastic will let me do that. Therefore I'm going to wimp out and set a distance which would challenge me at the start of February and then build from there. If I go for 10K straight off, I'm in danger of crocking myself, which would be stupid.
You tell it your planned max distance for each week, so you can do progressive. My max distance for week 3 is a 2000m swim as we're away that weekend without bikes.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 24 January, 2015, 09:00:52 pm
Ah, thanks - I'd never actually looked at the target logging page - just the ruz which I was obviously misinterpreting. I've now logged my targets.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 24 January, 2015, 09:11:02 pm
Went out to do Park Run and can't record it because I cycled there and back so didn't log 30 minutes of running.

The 30 min thing is bollocks. Just ignore it. You ran 5 km, which is a run.

And sod it - I've logged my parkrun too, cos I cycled there and back. I'm quite chuffed about the time too. This was my first run in years and I came first in my age group with a 24:32. I know it's slow compared to you young whipper-snappers, but for a 61 year old non-runner, I didn't think it was that bad (plus I had to slow down at one point to check to check if the text message I'd just received was the one I was expecting - it wasn't...).
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: davelodwig on 25 January, 2015, 07:51:15 pm
Just set my february targets, trying to use this to move things on a little following my pre christmas slump.

My plan is,

4x running a week, starting at 5k and increasing to 6.5k
at least 1x cycling a week (I've not ridden since christmas apart from a tandem trip to nailsworth for cake).

I'm going to ramp up the miles on the bike in March and then try to stick to it.

D.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 28 January, 2015, 07:04:56 pm
Oh dear. It'll have to be a Running Joker for me this week. Foot needs a week off. Sorry team - and to think I had my money on boab to let us down first, pfft.

No idea where this leave me with Feb targets. I don't even know if I'll run more than once in the first week  :-\
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: L CC on 28 January, 2015, 07:33:48 pm
Oh dear. It'll have to be a Running Joker for me this week. Foot needs a week off. Sorry team - and to think I had my money on boab to let us down first, pfft.

 ::-)

Hope your foot heals.
(Still time for me to F-u, I haven't swum yet this week...)
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 29 January, 2015, 01:00:44 pm
Oh dear. It'll have to be a Running Joker for me this week. Foot needs a week off. Sorry team - and to think I had my money on boab to let us down first, pfft.

No idea where this leave me with Feb targets. I don't even know if I'll run more than once in the first week  :-\

There's no point in crocking yourself, Matt, for the sake of an internet challenge. These things are supposed to motivate you to get up and out when it's a bit cold and meh out there, not kill you off. Take it easy and rest the foot up. Don't be tempted to return with it too early.

I think that' there's still time to go in and readjust your Feb targets. If in doubt, you could always reduce the number of activities per week down to the minimum. Sounds like you have a good reason for doing this.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 30 January, 2015, 09:02:13 am
Bit concerned that I might have to use a joker this week.   I'm really not confident at all when there's a bit of snow and ice about and it looks like we have a few days of it now.   :(
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: L CC on 30 January, 2015, 01:02:36 pm
Knowing I was heading to Frozen Northern Parts I got all my jantastics in by today.
 :smug:

(Must get them logged)
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 01 February, 2015, 12:48:47 pm
100 % completion for January for me once I've logged my activities for the past week :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 01 February, 2015, 01:05:15 pm
I'm off out on the bike in a few minutes to safeguard the joker and to complete the month.   Looking forward to February already.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: L CC on 01 February, 2015, 04:10:40 pm
I looked at the weather forecast for the ride we've entered next weekend.
And amended my February targets to distances I'm willing to ride on studs.
Jantastic still wonders if I'm telling the truth!
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 01 February, 2015, 05:36:33 pm
I looked at the weather forecast for the ride we've entered next weekend.
And amended my February targets to distances I'm willing to ride on studs.
Jantastic still wonders if I'm telling the truth!
Did 330km trip their warning limit?


Meanwhile,  I cant actually workout how to play a joker! The interface is ... non-intuitive. And my facebook post has been ignored. Hrumph.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 01 February, 2015, 05:41:04 pm
Just been looking at what is happening local to me.   28 Rugbeians joined for January but only three of us have been taking it seriously and all three of us have completed our targets for January.   I guess that reflects on how seriously most folk take it - a bit of a new year resolution for many?

Anyway, locally I'm joint first.   :smug:   :thumbsup: 

I'm definitely first outright in my age group as there is only me in that age group, and I seem to be the oldest registered locally.

Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: L CC on 01 February, 2015, 09:18:21 pm
The good citizens of BSE are much keener than the rugbians. There are 7 of us ladies on 100%
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 01 February, 2015, 09:22:45 pm
I've had the following email from Jantastic:

Quote
The following teams are the top 2 scorers in each category

SMALL
yacf
Ballymena Runners AC

MEDIUM
Pomphrey Hill parkrun
Oldham & Royton Harriers

LARGE

St Andrews Streakers
Conkers parkrun Girls

As the respective creators and admins of these teams, if you have any photos or interesting titbits of info about your team then please send them through as we may use them either in out social media chat or newsletters!

Thanks for supporting jantastic and congratulations on your high performing team :-)

If anyone can be bothered to write anything (sensible!) about our team I'll be happy to email it through to the Jantastic team.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: davelodwig on 02 February, 2015, 01:02:10 pm
Just been looking at what is happening local to me.   28 Rugbeians joined for January but only three of us have been taking it seriously and all three of us have completed our targets for January.   I guess that reflects on how seriously most folk take it - a bit of a new year resolution for many?

Anyway, locally I'm joint first.   :smug:   :thumbsup: 

I'm definitely first outright in my age group as there is only me in that age group, and I seem to be the oldest registered locally.

100% for January and feeling pretty smug about it.

I've observed similar to what you are saying PB, I find the first week of Jan and between Christmas and new year it's almost impossible to run along the tow-path in Stroud without being run down by roaming groups of joggers clad in brand new gear and then come the end of Jan I'm on my own again. I only hope a few of them stick at it.  I suspect too many people buy the gear to get it out from last year and just attempt to run 5k without any build up, hate it and give up till next year.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 03 February, 2015, 01:38:38 pm
Jantastic isn't logging for me this morning (I like to log as I do each run, rather than waiting to the end of the week - that way I don't forget, or if I do, it won't be an entire week's worth of runs I screw up on). I think they might be having one or two transfer problems to February, as we don't appear to have any team members at the moment, either. Will try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 03 February, 2015, 01:50:07 pm
Same every week.  You cannot log for the current week until after the deadline has passed for logging the previous week. 
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: davelodwig on 03 February, 2015, 01:54:03 pm
Broken in some browsers after the switch over to February. Was having a twitter chat with them about it, it worked on my Mac but not on my Windows machine.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 03 February, 2015, 01:58:17 pm
Same every week.  You cannot log for the current week until after the deadline has passed for logging the previous week.

The deadline passed at 8am this morning. It's showing the February log pages - just not accepting input. No doubt they'll sort it in the next day or so. Either that, or I'll have to try loging from an iMac
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: davelodwig on 05 February, 2015, 10:31:33 am
Having run this morning and then cycled into work I went into Jantastic to log them from Strava.   Up pops the message, "are you sure you've done 4 workouts this week, you can't log them until you've done them." You would have thought the dates in strava would have been a hint.

D.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 05 February, 2015, 09:46:43 pm
I've come down with a cold (I'm thinking the efforts of a half marathon on Sunday knocked out my immune system), which means this week is looking dodgy for my target of x1 swim session and x5 runs. I still need to complete three runs, including a 20 km effort, so will need to get out on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Followed by running Monday --> Friday the following week. Hmm....

I could use my joker, but really I need that for the third week of Feb. when I'll be away for a few days. Bum holes.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Swarm_Catcher on 06 February, 2015, 12:46:06 pm
I'm out of action also: headache, sore throat/chest, coughing.  Was so keen to keep to my fitness and healthy eating programs whilst in the US for a week and it only lasted a day :).   Will be using the joker, and hope that I'm ok by the end of next week to catch up on goals.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 07 February, 2015, 12:31:42 pm
I've come down with a cold (I'm thinking the efforts of a half marathon on Sunday knocked out my immune system), ...
Probably, and also being in close proximity to 1800 runners and their supporters (and their colds).

I hadn't thought about the bugs from all the other runners. I'm guessing the marquee was a good breading ground for a lot of viruses! (I also have the chance to collect a lot of viruses as I work in a school.)


I was feeling a bit better this morning and as it was the third birthday party for my ParkRun I decided to head up to support the event (and get some free cake). I ran around at a slow-ish pace (2½ minutes slower than last week) and didn't feel too bad. Now, can I do two runs on Sunday (inc. one 20 km run) to save my Jantastic week?....
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 08 February, 2015, 05:26:49 pm
With a bit of fudging,  I've scraped 100%.

Did 30mins of walk-run-shamble before breakfast, foot pain sorta coming and going. I'm claiming that one on moral grounds!

But far more exciting- I stumbled across a trial park-run. Yes, on my doorstep! Its been discussed for years for our ickle town,  but the route was always the problem. I had no idea they'd worked something out actually round our estate. Fingers crossed it works out :)

Anyway: then the bike leg. Extended a truly knackering club-run to scrape my distance target for the week. So the target system is just about doing its job for me - just not how I'd predicted at Christmas ...
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 08 February, 2015, 05:33:28 pm
Phew.   Was a bit worried about my bike target due to missing my midweek ride but got it sorted today.  Keeping up my 100%   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 08 February, 2015, 05:44:18 pm
I've also scraped through this week. I did a slow 21 km run this morning and then this afternoon I ran up to Waitrose to ensure I completed my five runs for the week. Hopefully next week will be easier.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: davelodwig on 09 February, 2015, 05:16:06 pm
For the first time since this started I failed to complete my sunday run,

I woke up with the absolute pig of a headache and my small attempt left me head pounding worse with every footfall.

Arse.

I shall try again, and this time succeed.

D.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 19 February, 2015, 10:24:17 pm
I'm out.

If I'm injured then having "targets" is counter-productive. Tried a very short jog tonight and discovered a whole new avenue of lower leg breakdown. I would have left it another week, and POSSIBLY got a little better without Jan-fucking-tastic. History says my injuries dont get better in 2 weeks.

(The cycling part is just pointless - I don't need any "progression". I could ride 300k on Saturday if I was bloody-minded enough; doesnt mean it would be good for me! )

Sorry, but this challenge just isn't doing me any good,  and is just pissing me off. If Team YACF want to me to make up some stuff to log, I will - otherwise I'm leaving that webpage alone for another year.
[This is actually the least injured I have ever been in December,  since the first Jantastic! ]

You live and learn ...

Good luck everyone  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: L CC on 19 February, 2015, 10:33:54 pm
I'm sorry it hasn't worked out for you Matt. I had to do the same last year. There should be an option for 'sensibly quitting through injury' as it's a motivational exercise, really, and carrying on when injured isn't a good thing, usually.

In contrast,  I did my long swim tonight as we're off to FORRIN in the morning, and after a wibble with cramp on laps 59/60/61 I swam further than I think I've ever done before, certainly since I was at school.
It almost makes me wonder if I should do something about getting better at it. It's not good having to do bad crawl because you're too uncoordinated to do breast stroke.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Swarm_Catcher on 20 February, 2015, 05:59:37 am
Week 2 and 3 are a write-off for me having had bronchitis followed by a cold.  I'll start running again on Saturday and hope to complete a good Week 4 and Month 3.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 20 February, 2015, 10:00:31 am
Matt, it's just one of those things. You win some, you lose some. There's certainly no point in aggravating an injury for the sake of a virtual challenge like this. The idea of Jantastic is to motivate people, not kill them off. I, for one, would prefer to carry you as "injured", rather than just fabricating results. That way, we can still claim the moral high.

If you wanted to help the team, the best you could do would be to keep putting jokers in until you've exhausted your supply (not that it worries me much either way).

I'm still plodding along. I'm finding it harder, because of personal circumstances to log stuff right now. I did my long run on Monday simply because the opportunity presented itself and I thought it was best to get it out of the way when I could. I should manage to fit everything in by the end of the week, but I'm glad I didn't up the number of activities I was going to do this month.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 20 February, 2015, 10:23:21 am
I have struggled with a mixture of work commitments and slow recovery from my running accident at the end of November.   I'm forcing myself out walking just as I have done so today.

What is scary is that I need to be able to start to run properly again soon or March will be a disaster.   I guess that I can set myself relatively slow times...
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 21 February, 2015, 12:12:36 pm
As I was away at the start of the week I didn't get to the pool on Monday evening. Ordinarily that mean I won't swim until the following Monday, but because of Janatastic I dragged myself out yesterday evening, whereupon I discovered it's free to swim on a Friday evening :thumbsup:. It was also very quiet, with only five other people in the pool, four of whom were having a lesson.

I'm doing the Hampton Court ½ marathon tomorrow which will count for my distant run, but I'll still need to use a joker as I will only have done four runs out of my target of five.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 22 February, 2015, 09:13:26 pm
To add insult to injury in the process of having an off today I forgot about the phone and the battery expired so my 44kms ride to point of accident was not saved.   :(   

I've registered a 40kms ride as a manual entry.    :-\
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 23 February, 2015, 06:56:28 am
its an honesty-based system - always has been.
You rode 44km :)
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 24 February, 2015, 06:17:40 pm
I'm not likely to get on the bike this week so I will play my first joker.   I have mixed feelings about this but it will be the first week that I've had to do this in eight.     
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 28 February, 2015, 06:28:20 pm
Totally knackered. Went to parkrun this morning and then went swimming this afternoon to try and log an extra workout. Having got home and tried to add it, I then realised that because I didn't specify any swimming workouts - I can't add it. So, I went for another 30 minute run after swimming to give me something I could add. Unfortunately, I'm not thinking straight. Because I'll have limited opportunity to do much at the start of next week, my intention had been to bag up a couple of extra activitiesahead of time - to put in the bank, so to speak. But you can't do that, can you?. In my befuddled state, I'd forgotten that the week doesn't start till Monday. I'm already committed to a 5am run tomorrow with a friend that I'll not be able to bank. The 5am start was deliberately so I could get a run in before heading to the station tomorrow morning for a few days away. It looks like I'm going to have to take my running kit with me. I'll struggle to get 4 runs in next week if I wait until I'm home again before starting.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 01 March, 2015, 06:15:07 pm
100 % for January & February :smug:
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 01 March, 2015, 07:18:11 pm
Matt, it's just one of those things. You win some, you lose some. There's certainly no point in aggravating an injury for the sake of a virtual challenge like this. The idea of Jantastic is to motivate people, not kill them off. I, for one, would prefer to carry you as "injured", rather than just fabricating results. That way, we can still claim the moral high.

If you wanted to help the team, the best you could do would be to keep putting jokers in until you've exhausted your supply (not that it worries me much either way).
Thanks!
I completely forgot to log my rides last week - i think was a subconscious rejection of the whole stoopid thing :P

Anyway, logged this week's + joker ( I think - can anyone confirm this? Stoopid UI ... )

Did some tentative jog/walking yesterday,  but nowhere enough to set sensible run targets. So I'll just buing something in for the riding. 200k on Sat 7th, that can be my "speed" task,  I guess
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 09 March, 2015, 03:58:10 pm
I have a Jantastic injury (but I don't think it will stop me completing...). Whilst out this morning for my run, I got hit by a rapidly descending car park barrier. It was up and I tried to run through. At the critical moment the wind caught it and it came crashing down on my head. The pole now has a head shaped dent in it. It hit me bang on the top of my forehead and forced my beanie cap down over my eyes. I now have rather a nasty cut on the bridge of my nose (the beanie hat only slid so far) and a stinking headache. Everyone at work seems to think I've been in a punchup this weekend. I'm not getting a lot of sympathy.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 15 March, 2015, 12:50:31 pm
How are people getting on with Jantastic? So far I'm 100 % for March having done my 5 runs (including >32 km) and 1 swim each week. My motivation was lacking this morning as it was grey and overcast, but Jantastic was the kick up the bum I needed to get out and do my long run.

Next week will be interesting. I've set my long run as 25 km, but I'm doing the Shaftesbury CC 110 km audax on the Saturday and Richmond ½ marathon on the Sunday, which means it'll have to be a post work 25 km run. Hmm..... What was I thinking?  :facepalm: My speed target will also take place next week. The million dollar question is: can I do the Richmond ½ in under 80 minutes?.....
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 15 March, 2015, 02:03:54 pm
I'm up with my targets. I've completed this week and managed to get my timed run in (10km in 55 min, which would have been a PB for me). I've also managed to do some of the Strava running badges this week as well - 64K in a week, 500 metres of climbing in a week, 6 activities in a week and a sub 7 min 30 sec mile (though how I achieved the last one - I've no idea, but I appear to have been awarded the badge).

I started off on Monday thinking I'd aim for the 64K this week. If I did a 16K on Monday morning, a 16K today (Sunday) and parkrun yesteday - I could do 3 10K runs during the week to get my 64K and 6 activities in. Things didn't quite go to plan. Two thirds the way round my run on Monday morning I got hit on the head by a descending car park barrier... Having sworn blue murder and staggered around for a couple of minutes (the barrier now has a head shaped bend in it and there was some blood from my nose left spattered around) I thought that I might as well finish the damn run and continued on my way. However, I missed crossing one of the bridges out. The OCD part of me then made me divert to pick up the missing bridge which wouldn't have been a problem (distance was about the same) except that it meant me running back down the hill to the bottom, crossing the bridge, crossing a second bridge and then running back up the hill again - all with a stinking headache and blood pouring everywhere.

On Tuesday I woke up still with the headache and nearly went back to bed. In the end I limped out and thought I might as well make a go of getting my 10K timed run in, in case I ended up with a delayed onset visit to the injury couch. Things went surprisingly well - I took a flat 10K route and set my pace markers at 5:00 for the first 2K, 5:15 for the next, 5:30 for the next etc finishing at 6:00 for the last 2K. I ended up thrashing all my markers and came in with a 50:58 for the 10K which means I'd knocked about 5 minutes off my previous PB. I was well chuffed. What was more - my headache had disappeared. Getting home I realised that on the first 2 days I'd accidentally notched up over 300 metres of climbing (the extra hill on day one) so on Wednesday I went out for a lumps and bumps run, covering as many banks in the area as I could think of. That clocked me up the 500 metres of climbing in 3 days.

Friday's run was eventful because my Garmin ran out of battery part way round and my 12.5K only recorded as 8.9... After 5K at parkrun yesterday I tallied up my recorded distance which left me with 12.1K to do today. This morning I repeated Friday's run (with a fully charged battery this time) so I'm now feeling quite pleased with myself. The major objectives are completed plus I've got one or two minor ones in as well on the way.

All I have left to do now are 4 runs (one of 10K) for each of the last 2 weeks to score 100% for the entire challenge. This would be ok if I wasn't going away at the end of the week. This means that I only have 4 days next week (Monday to Thursday) to do my runs in. This is on top of having just run 6 days out of the last 7. It looks as if I may have to be innovative about some of my routes (like taking the car to the garage Tuesday morning and then running a 10K from the garage to where I've left a bike hidden in the bushes so I can then cycle into work...).
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 15 March, 2015, 04:54:49 pm
How are people getting on with Jantastic?
Good news! I heard that each team's worse 25% members don't count.

So I can skulk away from this without being a *total* hate figure of YACF/Health and Fitness :crossesfingers: ...
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 15 March, 2015, 05:15:35 pm
I am managing to keep to my targets having had to use just one joker to date after my off a few weeks back.   I'm feeling nervous about next week as it is next week that I have targeted for my ambitious run time target. 

I may need the joker in the final week though as mllePB wants to go cycling for the week and half of my sessions are runs.    :-\
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Pippa on 15 March, 2015, 06:19:43 pm
Been skiing all week and only just got back so had to use my first joker. Shame I can't count any of the 155 odd miles I have skiied in the last 6 days. Oh well. Back on the running etc tomorrow.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: L CC on 16 March, 2015, 01:05:34 pm
Had a total sense of humour/mojo failure on Saturday's DIY200 15km.  :facepalm: Drowned my sorrows in a trip to kill things1 at the seaside with No2Daughter and racked up 23km walking according to my thingy, so it's not like I did nothing...

Played a joker.

On the plus side, felt like a rowing GOD this morning at the gym, so I reckon I needed the break.



1: Virtually, natch.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: mattc on 19 March, 2015, 04:20:13 pm
At least I should have fewer problems with my 300k cycling distance target for the last week.
After posting that, I suggest you carry a LOT of spares!
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 19 March, 2015, 08:52:37 pm
That's my 25 km run done for the week :thumbsup:.

I am a bit crocked. <snip>

Sounds a bit rubbish. At least you can defer the VLM entry until 2016, although I'm sure you'd prefer to do the run this year. Hopefully the PBP qualifications are more successful.

Portsmouth ½ sounds delightful.....
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 21 March, 2015, 07:55:12 pm
I'm struggling with Jantastic again.   I managed to not turn on Strava for my run today and cannot remember how to enter the run manually.   I have entered a manual once before but this time Jantastic is defeating me.

Help please.   ???
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 22 March, 2015, 05:28:36 pm
Today I ran my timed event, the Richmond ½ marathon. My target was 80 minutes, which I felt was a bit ambitious, I ran 83:24 at the same event last year, but surely that's the whole point of Jantastic? My plan was to run bang on 6 minute miles, which would give me a little bit of leeway and the chance to slow down in the second part of the race.

I set off quickly and after realising very early into the race that I wasn't going be able to hold the two in front of me I backed off the pace. However I still went through the first mile at 5:55. That was faster than planned, but the pace felt OK and mile 2 was ran at the same pace. I'd see what happened... There was a guy I was following who yoyo-ed between 10 and 50 metres in front of me for the next ten miles. The race runs around Kew Gardens and down the Thames River path. On a beautiful Sunday morning it was a fantastic place to run.

Mile 10 came and went and I was still running at 5:55; cool. I ate my gel and pushed the pace for the final few miles. I finally managed to overtake the guy who'd I been following for a lot of the race. I did encourage him to stay with me, but he dropped slightly behind. The last 400 m seemed to take forever, but I still smashed my target and finished in 77:33 :o :thumbsup:.

One more week of Janastic, here's to hoping I can keep up my 100 %.


I managed to not turn on Strava for my run today and cannot remember how to enter the run manually.

Easy peasy: click. (https://www.jantastic.me/log-march-workouts/)
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 24 March, 2015, 11:07:39 am
I'm struggling with Jantastic again.   I managed to not turn on Strava for my run today and cannot remember how to enter the run manually.   I have entered a manual once before but this time Jantastic is defeating me.

Help please.   ???

I've been away so have just seen this and may be too late. Go to "Log My Workouts". On the left hand side of the page there's a + and - sign next to the number of activities you've completed. The + and - may be greyed out but they still appear to work. Just click the + and then click "save my workouts" at the bottom of the page.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Polar Bear on 27 March, 2015, 11:28:12 pm
Thanks everybody with the help tips.   I've just updated for the week and I've completed Jantastic with just one joker for one missed session.   

I enjoyed that.  :thumbsup: 
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: Pippa on 28 March, 2015, 10:38:48 am
Well I totally cocked up my last chance of actually hitting my time target on my run this morning  >:(

Still, I managed all the other weeks aside from when I was skiing when I played a joker. I'm definitely a lot fitter than I was and have lost nearly a stone  :thumbsup:

What the hell is going to motivate me to keep going now thobut ???

Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: SlowCoach on 28 March, 2015, 09:01:20 pm
Did my last Jantastic run this morning at parkrun. I've managed to hit all the targets without using a joker (no idea how). It was close on some occasions - particularly when I was away for 3 or 4 days out of a week and couldn't get any running in without being ultra-devious.

I went out in style. I was secretly hoping for a PB at parkrun and went out fast trailing on the heels of some young whippersnapper of a girl for as long as I could. She was seriously fast and I lasted about a K or so before we got separated. I was totally knackered by this stage, but managed to keep moving at a somewhat reduced speed for the other 4K. The flying start did me well, though. I ended up knocking 58 seconds off my PB (now down to 22:17), did my first sub 4 minute K, and came in 37th out of 285 (11th if you take age grading into account). For lots of you that's a rather indifferent time, but for a 61 year old non-runner I'm quite proud of myself. When I started Jantastic I was sort of hoping I might manage a sub 30 minute 5K by the end of it. I think I've well and truly cracked that.

Thanks everyone. Jantastic has really helped keep me motivated. I'll be signing up next year. The question now is - what else do I do before then?

Oh - and the reason why I couldn't hang on to the heels of that park runner, today? I saw her again at the end of the run. She was donning a British Athletics Cross Country trackie... I feel suitably vindicated.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: αdαmsκι on 28 March, 2015, 10:02:47 pm
That's a 100 % Janastic for me too :thumbsup:. I used one joker in February when I went to Greece for five days, but otherwise I hit all my weekly distance targets, as well as managing my sub 80 minute ½ marathon. The distance targets in February and March were great for forcing me to do some long mid week runs when I may otherwise have not bothered. I've now got four weeks of training without the Jantastic motivation until the London marathon.
Title: Re: Jantastic 2015
Post by: L CC on 29 March, 2015, 07:04:47 pm
I missed one workout one week through mis-counting. Annoying!
Completely blew the time target though. Headwind, and just not fit enough up all those hills on the Dean.
It's been good to get me out riding through the week when I wouldn't have bothered otherwise, and I certainly wouldn't have done any swimming.