Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => The Knowledge => OT Knowledge => Topic started by: andyoxon on 01 May, 2020, 11:38:53 am
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How do people think the new university year, perhaps the autumn term particularly, will play out disruption wise for students in different subjects, with possible continuing social distancing, if not lockdown. Perhaps also first years in accomodation, groups in flats, living together, going home periodically etc.
mini ao will be starting an art/design degree in Sept, which is hands on, use of core workshops etc, and not so amenable to youtube tuition.
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I don't know and I teach at University.
A lot of planning has happened to deal with the online teaching right now, but very little thought seems to be ongoing about next year.
One of the problems is that the University wants to deal with this centrally, so you get told how things are going to look without much of a say... it's very much a top down approach, but without the daily updates at 5 PM.
As things are, it will be very difficult to operate social distancing...
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I'm seeing some academic staff told to design 2 courses, one for in-person, one for online with the expectation of a mixture of the two. No one seems to have thought of practical courses which really can't be done in person; whether they defer start to January or try and frontload with theory online first (v hard as many practical studes learn best by doing, hence the course type).
Every uni seems to be different, some are more competent with comms to staff and or students than others.
It's going to be "dunno" for quite some time; very anxiety inducing for your poor daughter's cohort.
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I have no idea, I am admin at a University.
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I keep pressing the HoD for a plan and have made a lot of suggestions on how we could restructure teaching, so that practicals don't happen until January or don't happen at all in the 2020-2021, with the idea that the following year is basically only practicals, but the governance seem to be reluctant to plan, before they hear from the bigger wigs the central plans...
It will be a mad rush in August/September, I fear
And then there is the issue of shortfall in revenues... I estimate roughly 20-25%, as no student from Asia will show up... we'll see how that is dealt with centrally
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Has mini ao sorted out her accommodation yet? If not they would be well advised to get university owned accommodation if at all possible, unis in general are more amenable to changing plans than private landlords (particularly the big boys who can really be complete c*nts).
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Has mini ao sorted out her accommodation yet? If not they would be well advised to get university owned accommodation if at all possible, unis in general are more amenable to changing plans than private landlords (particularly the big boys who can really be complete c*nts).
Thanks. Yes, but for some reason the uni releases accomodation before before all the students have even had interviews for certain subjects. So that by the time the unconditional offer came through, literally all the uni accmdn had gone. We had to go for private, though the booking was administered through the uni accmdn office, so that she would be with other 1st yrs from the same uni. You're right there is no explicit break clause for before attending, although the email says "Once the tenancy starts on 24/09/2020, you become legally bound to the terms and conditions of the tenancy."
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Has mini ao sorted out her accommodation yet? If not they would be well advised to get university owned accommodation if at all possible, unis in general are more amenable to changing plans than private landlords (particularly the big boys who can really be complete c*nts).
Thanks. Yes, but for some reason the uni releases accomodation before before all the students have even had interviews for certain subjects. So that by the time the unconditional offer came through, literally all the uni accmdn had gone. We had to go for private, though the booking was administered through the uni accmdn office, so that she would be with other 1st yrs from the same uni. You're right there is no explicit break clause for before attending, although the email says "Once the tenancy starts on 24/09/2020, you become legally bound to the terms and conditions of the tenancy."
Unconditional offer?
Russell Group don't do unconditional offers and I've got the feeling the clearing season will be particularly hot this summer, with bargains to be had... it's going to be a "buyers market" and maybe worth her having another look at places she thought she couldn't get an offer from?
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Surely they do unconditional offers if you've already got your A-level results?
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Surely they do unconditional offers if you've already got your A-level results?
Well yes, but among young students it's almost unheard of and our courses don't have mature students
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MrsC works in accommodation in a uni and they have no clue yet.
Uni has signed contracts with private providers for accommodation and faces not getting all the students they expect.
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Has mini ao sorted out her accommodation yet? If not they would be well advised to get university owned accommodation if at all possible, unis in general are more amenable to changing plans than private landlords (particularly the big boys who can really be complete c*nts).
Thanks. Yes, but for some reason the uni releases accomodation before before all the students have even had interviews for certain subjects. So that by the time the unconditional offer came through, literally all the uni accmdn had gone. We had to go for private, though the booking was administered through the uni accmdn office, so that she would be with other 1st yrs from the same uni. You're right there is no explicit break clause for before attending, although the email says "Once the tenancy starts on 24/09/2020, you become legally bound to the terms and conditions of the tenancy."
Unconditional offer?
Russell Group don't do unconditional offers and I've got the feeling the clearing season will be particularly hot this summer, with bargains to be had... it's going to be a "buyers market" and maybe worth her having another look at places she thought she couldn't get an offer from?
Yes, most prospective art & design first years will do an art Foundation yr, prior to starting degree, so will already have A-level results at portfolio interview.
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I'm a Head of Subject in a Russell Group Uni and the latest intell is the usual Sept/Oct start with blended learning, with the mix of online / on-campus tbc but will vary from course to course depending on a) class size (easier to social distance a lecture of 30 than 300) b) on campus safety (temp checks, on-site testing, distancing etc) c) room/timetable contraints. Some post-grad programmes might yet do a Jan start. We have a lot of lab based, practical and placement learning and have outline planned about half a dozen different scenarios, but won't go much further until we have more clarity from senior management. Objective is for all students to experience some face to face learning in first semester so we might have students attend labs alternate weeks etc. Of course new outbreaks etc. would knock this for six. Anyway, a lot of planning is going on and Uni's are trying to coordinate and agree on the big stuff, such as semester start dates, so sit tight and cross your fingers.
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Miss Dan the Elder is due to start first year of Music in September. Her offer became unconditional when it became clear that A levels as we know them weren’t happening. That was a nice touch by her uni, creating certainty just as she’d been hit with chaos. Probably reassuring for them too.
We haven’t got into applying for halls yet and if there’s been much in the way of updates I haven’t heard them. I dare say university central plans are a bit at the mercy of government planning :rollseyes:
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Miss Dan the Elder is due to start first year of Music in September. Her offer became unconditional when it became clear that A levels as we know them weren’t happening. That was a nice touch by her uni, creating certainty just as she’d been hit with chaos. Probably reassuring for them too.
We haven’t got into applying for halls yet and if there’s been much in the way of updates I haven’t heard them. I dare say university central plans are a bit at the mercy of government planning :rollseyes:
Probably not a lot of urgency... regardless of government decisions, I expect a fall in numbers around 15-30%, depending on the institute's reliance on foreign students... in this scenario, there should be more accommodation available than it's needed.
I seem to remember that last year at this point we had 10 secured students from China, this year there are 2 (and they might not come)... this trend will continue, so as a department we are likely to lose about 20-30 first year UG and probably almost all the PGT
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I have no idea, I am admin at a University.
Same here.
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I'm a lecturer at a Russel Group Uni also.... no clue yet - same as the others.
We are anticipating a very reduced intake in September.
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I'm a lecturer at a Russel Group Uni also.... no clue yet - same as the others.
We are anticipating a very reduced intake in September.
... although I don't share the view that UK students will defer their places. If I was 18, with an A level, what else could I do? There are no meaningful jobs around, no fruit picking in winter and travelling is not an option... Staying in education seems the least worst.
The real issue is obviously our reliance on students from the far east
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I'm a lecturer at a Russel Group Uni also.... no clue yet - same as the others.
We are anticipating a very reduced intake in September.
... although I don't share the view that UK students will defer their places. If I was 18, with an A level, what else could I do? There are no meaningful jobs around, no fruit picking in winter and travelling is not an option... Staying in education seems the least worst.
OTOH, sitting on your arse for a year seems like a wiser financial decision than getting massively into debt for a hastily-bodged-together online course when you're fighting over one crusty computer and don't have any sibling-free workspace.
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I'm a lecturer at a Russel Group Uni also.... no clue yet - same as the others.
We are anticipating a very reduced intake in September.
... although I don't share the view that UK students will defer their places. If I was 18, with an A level, what else could I do? There are no meaningful jobs around, no fruit picking in winter and travelling is not an option... Staying in education seems the least worst.
OTOH, sitting on your arse for a year seems like a wiser financial decision than getting massively into debt for a hastily-bodged-together online course when you're fighting over one crusty computer and don't have any sibling-free workspace.
Quality of what we offer doesn't have to be worse... if anything, this is an opportunity to revise the old fashioned way we have to operate... so far students seem to appreciate the virtual practical environment
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I'm a lecturer at a Russel Group Uni also.... no clue yet - same as the others.
We are anticipating a very reduced intake in September.
... although I don't share the view that UK students will defer their places. If I was 18, with an A level, what else could I do? There are no meaningful jobs around, no fruit picking in winter and travelling is not an option... Staying in education seems the least worst.
OTOH, sitting on your arse for a year seems like a wiser financial decision than getting massively into debt for a hastily-bodged-together online course when you're fighting over one crusty computer and don't have any sibling-free workspace.
Quality of what we offer doesn't have to be worse... if anything, this is an opportunity to revise the old fashioned way we have to operate... so far students seem to appreciate the virtual practical environment
Sure, but with a few exceptions (the OU springs to mind), the student has no way of knowing what the quality will be, so they may defer simply on that basis.
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Sure, but with a few exceptions (the OU springs to mind), the student has no way of knowing what the quality will be, so they may defer simply on that basis.
It's their choice, but it would be a stupid choice. One year off education (actually nearly two when you think about it) might lead to loss of motivation and certain loss of skills, I'm thinking maths mainly, which is essential for our courses.
And I disagree with you: students want to move on with their life, typically they would rather get a badly cobbled together degree from Oxford than an excellent one provided by the OU.
The real problem will be the distinct lack of students from abroad and since they pay 2-3 times the fees, it is a massive hole in the budget... and might continue in the years to come
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Depends what subject, I teach chemistry, try doing a wet-lab practical online :-\
Engineering, Physics, Biological sciences have the same problem. Humanities not so much... though I'm not so familiar with that, there may also be issues there that I'm not au fair with.
Also, we 're likely looking at very few, if any, international students.
You may not share that view but it's certainly the lead we're getting from up high.... perhaps you're right, I hope so.
Certainly I have found it very educational to do online teaching, it's taught me a lot about different ways to teach - at least on the theory side. But our students are dead keen to have labs, it's what most want in chemistry.
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Depends what subject, I teach chemistry, try doing a wet-lab practical online :-\
Same here. For third year students, we have designed a range of experiments where they analyse data and plan for a small research project.
Very difficult for year 1 and 2 when they need to learn the skills. It's either going to be social distancing with fewer people and fewer experiments (phys chem could go virtual) or lab will be postponed to term 2 or even to year two if needs be.
I have to say, it's all eminently possible without compromising quality... I actually see it as an opportunity to finally catch up with the pedagogy out there... after years of half heart attempts at flipped classes, maybe we'll have to be forced to teach like that...
It's quite exciting...
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Yes indeed, pedagogy-wise - very true - nice one, hello fellow chemist! :-D
We got a super-big intake in 2019 by a (mammoth) clerical error (shh!, I didn't say that). We can't fit them all in as it is, especially in the organic labs which is my thing. :(
Got to say, I have some some sympathy with those who think they shouldn't really be paying full fees. The government yesterday refusing a bailout and allowing us to recruit 5% more students brought out a rather wry laugh in me yesterday. We recruited about 20% too many students last year... I don't even want to think about 25% more than normal, plus I rather wonder if it's pure fantasy on their part.
Maybe we'll be back to the days of humanities subsidising the sciences from intake fees... or not.
If recruitment is good, as you predict (I can see your point...we'll see I guess) then that will be a massive personal relief on the job-security front at least - if not the volume of marking and hand-holding ::-)
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In terms of teaching styles, isn't it going to be more of a problem for the current intake, who are going to have to adapt to something new mid-course? And by the same token, as next year will be experimental in some ways, it might make sense for new intake to defer for a year (or more) while the systems, teachers, accommodation and so on all settle down. It's going to vary, obviously, by individual students' characters whether they lose motivation this way – a gap year is hardly a radical idea.
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I don't have any sympathy for the concept of reduced fees. If students want to pay less fees, they should go to a lesser institution that charges less.
£9,250 is already a reduced fee and we are operating on a shoestring and if sounds too much, then their parents shouldn't have voted Tories (and then voted them again)... so I have zero sympathy.
As for deferring... yes, you can defer, and what are you going to do for 12 months? Playstation? Netflix? In the meantime losing skills and then entering University the following year less prepared and at risk of failing or graduating with less.
I'd rather graduate with a 2.1 with an "experimental first year" than one year later, with a 2.2 because I waited for things to go back to normal.
I think deferring is just daft and I suspect the number of UK students deferring will be very small.
Asian students will look to stay in their Country, that's a given... provided they can, bear in mind we get the wealthy ones, not necessarily the smart ones, often they come over here because they can't get a place in a good University over there.
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I lead a semester 1 MSc module at a RG uni. It's usually taught to about 60 students in a computer lab, with lots of supportive postgrads floating about.
I have been asked to consider 5 scenarios
Home students may be permitted to return to campus in September, but for a variety of reasons Eu/International students may not be able to join us till later in semester 1 (late by a period of up to 4 weeks).
Home students may be permitted to return to campus in semester 1, but for a variety of reasons Eu/International students may not be able to join us till later in Semester 1 (date unspecified) and up to the beginning of semester 2.
No students will be on campus in September; all students will be able to access campus by January and all teaching in semester 1 (apart from clinical placements) will be delivered online for all student groups.
Any currently ‘paused’ PGT HEE funded programmes may restart to complete their current cohort at the same time as a new cohort wish to enrol
All UG programmes across the institution will commence in September but all PGT programmes will be scheduled to commence in January for both Home/EU/International students.
We've then been given a selection of course delivery options that they've pre-rated for acceptability to students, and asked us to tell us which of the options we'll choose, what adaptations we need to make to the module, and what support we need to do this. The uni seems to prefer that we use this interactive live lecture / remote desktop solution that would seem to me to be very reliant on the students having really great connections. I would rather pre-record a lecture with asynchronous activities for the students with follow-up q&a. This has been pre-rated as a poor option. Our lead for digital education has been crowing in the Guardian. I fear he lives in cloud cuckoo land.
Ooh, I forgot to add, I'm on the extremely vulnerable list, so I'm not seeing any students any time soon.
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I don't have any sympathy for the concept of reduced fees. If students want to pay less fees, they should go to a lesser institution that charges less.
Youwat?
Please tell me about these 'lesser institutions that charge less'?
Some of my children have transferred between unis. Four have attended or completed uni in the past 5 years.
There is about £500 difference between the 'top' and 'lesser' universities.
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I don't have any sympathy for the concept of reduced fees. If students want to pay less fees, they should go to a lesser institution that charges less.
Youwat?
Please tell me about these 'lesser institutions that charge less'?
Some of my children have transferred between unis. Four have attended or completed uni in the past 5 years.
There is about £500 difference between the 'top' and 'lesser' universities.
At the bottom of the ranking fees are around 7,000, but yes, over the years they all conformed to the 9,250
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I don't have any sympathy for the concept of reduced fees. If students want to pay less fees, they should go to a lesser institution that charges less.
As for deferring... yes, you can defer, and what are you going to do for 12 months? Playstation? Netflix?
Retake A levels and do them 'properly' rather than the predicted guff that many are complaining about. That's what our top bods think.
I've got to admit, I've rather had it up to here with students' first world problems over the last few weeks. People are dying, losing jobs etc. etc. 'my degree/A levels are not going to be the same' doesn't really cut it for me.
I do have sympathy for the ones in genuine strife. One of our MSc students got basically airlifted out by her Saudi government and landed in Dubai. 2 weeks quarantine only then to find her onward flight to SA had since been cancelled and now she's in another 2 weeks of quarantine....which will then be followed by *another* two weeks of quarantine back home. Ouch. And this is student with anxiety problems. :( But the 'angry mob' of students get almost zero sympathy from me. Though this is not my public face at the Uni... O:-)
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I've got to admit, I've rather had it up to here with students' first world problems over the last few weeks. People are dying, losing jobs etc. etc. 'my degree/A levels are not going to be the same' doesn't really cut it for me.
I do have sympathy for the ones in genuine strife. One of our MSc students got basically airlifted out by her Saudi government and landed in Dubai. 2 weeks quarantine only then to find her onward flight to SA had since been cancelled and now she's in another 2 weeks of quarantine....which will then be followed by *another* two weeks of quarantine back home. Ouch. And this is student with anxiety problems. :( But the 'angry mob' of students get almost zero sympathy from me. Though this is not my public face at the Uni... O:-)
Completely agree, although luckily the majority seem very understanding of the situation... likewise, loads of students quarantined around the world on their way home in March (or often April, when flights were cancelled)
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I don't have any sympathy for the concept of reduced fees. If students want to pay less fees, they should go to a lesser institution that charges less.
As for deferring... yes, you can defer, and what are you going to do for 12 months? Playstation? Netflix?
Retake A levels and do them 'properly' rather than the predicted guff that many are complaining about. That's what our top bods think.
So you start work a year later, so your lifetime earnings are a year less. Over your working life that's a 2% pay cut, which is not something to be sniffed at.
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Not to mention that being able to take a year out is a lot easier if you're from a middle-class background with affluent, supportive, and well-networked parents.
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I don't have any sympathy for the concept of reduced fees. If students want to pay less fees, they should go to a lesser institution that charges less.
As for deferring... yes, you can defer, and what are you going to do for 12 months? Playstation? Netflix?
Retake A levels and do them 'properly' rather than the predicted guff that many are complaining about. That's what our top bods think.
I've got to admit, I've rather had it up to here with students' first world problems over the last few weeks. People are dying, losing jobs etc. etc. 'my degree/A levels are not going to be the same' doesn't really cut it for me.
The (unreliable, unevidenced) word is that A levels and GCSEs might be replaced (not just this year) with something more akin to continuous assessment and coursework tasks. We shall see.
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mini ao will be starting an art/design degree in Sept, which is hands on, use of core workshops etc, and not so amenable to youtube tuition.
I'm an Art student and can understand how this is problematic! My supervisor reckons they can't plan more than a week ahead at the moment, things are shifting so fast. Best wishes for whatever shape September turns out to be.
What discipline area is mini planning to study in?
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I don't have any sympathy for the concept of reduced fees. If students want to pay less fees, they should go to a lesser institution that charges less.
Youwat?
Please tell me about these 'lesser institutions that charge less'?
Some of my children have transferred between unis. Four have attended or completed uni in the past 5 years.
There is about £500 difference between the 'top' and 'lesser' universities.
'pparently almost all universities having been charging the full £9250 for all courses for a while now
(not the gubbermint's finest hour this one IMO)
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mini ao will be starting an art/design degree in Sept, which is hands on, use of core workshops etc, and not so amenable to youtube tuition.
I'm an Art student and can understand how this is problematic! My supervisor reckons they can't plan more than a week ahead at the moment, things are shifting so fast. Best wishes for whatever shape September turns out to be.
What discipline area is mini planning to study in?
Textiles / fashion. Applying for the start of the ~£45K debt now. ;)
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University: it's not just education you're missing out on!
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/may/20/no-sex-no-booze-how-the-move-online-will-take-all-the-fun-out-of-university
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The (unreliable, unevidenced) word is that A levels and GCSEs might be replaced (not just this year) with something more akin to continuous assessment and coursework tasks. We shall see.
We already have that in the new BTECs that mix coursework with exams. The govt (gove) hate them and they will expire soon. New Tech levels will be a bit like this but will involve a day a week work placement (and unfortunately all the employers who bitch about students not being work ready refuse to have them in a day a week to become work ready).
I think unis might well make lower offers, expecting more dropouts in the first year, to reduce their losses.
I'm a big fan of the flipped learning pedagogical model, but it requires students to do work when they are not forced to do it by you standing over them (or checking attendance in the lecture theatre) - while my students will be able to do this (because we shift the emphasis on them choosing to do the work) most schools and high-performing sixth forms won't risk their results on shifting the responsibility to the student. So I reckon it will be a big schock.
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UK universities facing £760m hit as one in five students plan to defer
Undergraduates say they will delay enrolment if classes stay online and activities are curbed
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/may/20/uk-universities-facing-760m-hit-one-in-five-students-plan-defer
The courses with more practical content, will have to be prioritised in some way if widespread zooming is planned - otherwise standards will suffer
Apparently the gubbermint are essentially going to allow 'overbooking' of courses, so the financial hit is not as great. Fun times in 2021 intake...
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Currently finishing my second year of a very practical BA at a London Art school. Next year I reckon it's going to be the same as it is now and I'm gearing up to do it all at home.
If I was starting afresh, I'd defer a year as standards are suffering and my fellow students are struggling big time.
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A friend teaches veterinary radiography at a Cambridge uni college.
She's been put on furlough for now. In the new year they have no idea what they are going to do. Vet student teaching has a lot of hands on sessions.
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fwiw my child going into year 2 next year has been told to be there for 12th October, which I think is a couple of weeks after the 'normal' start date (though one of those weeks would have been freshers' week.)
He's doing physics, therefore has labs, so the 'arts/humanities' instructions may differ.
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lecturer I know haas been doing online tuition and loves it as he believes engagement is higher. But if my child was down for Oxbridge or similar where it's about the 'experience' I'd see about deferment until 2021. A lot of our lecturers are mugging up on Collaborate
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I think it would be easier to continue normal teaching practise while social distancing in a tutorial system like Oxbridge offers. Clearly lectures would be a problem, but there's very little interaction anyway, so moving online there is pretty easy. Library access might be an issue, and labs would be a significant issue. I'm not sure how you could have college life in a social distant way though.
If I were a prospective student, I would be evaluating what it is that I expect to get out of university. I have never had a job where I have used anything I learned during my university courses (undergrad and MSc). Maybe I did university wrong!
Edit to say that it wasn't wasted time - I learned a lot about myself, the world and my subject. I'm old enough that I didn't have to go into giant debt to do that though.
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lecturer I know haas been doing online tuition and loves it as he believes engagement is higher. But if my child was down for Oxbridge or similar where it's about the 'experience' I'd see about deferment until 2021. A lot of our lecturers are mugging up on Collaborate
How are they doing on mugging up on that? The only conclusion we drew was that it's shit.
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If I were a prospective student, I would be evaluating what it is that I expect to get out of university. I have never had a job where I have used anything I learned during my university courses (undergrad and MSc). Maybe I did university wrong!
Edit to say that it wasn't wasted time - I learned a lot about myself, the world and my subject. I'm old enough that I didn't have to go into giant debt to do that though.
... whereas I have made continuous use of what I learned at uni, and have several of my old textbooks sitting on a shelf above my work desk right now.
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I think it would be easier to continue normal teaching practise while social distancing in a tutorial system like Oxbridge offers. Clearly lectures would be a problem, but there's very little interaction anyway, so moving online there is pretty easy. Library access might be an issue, and labs would be a significant issue. I'm not sure how you could have college life in a social distant way though.
If I were a prospective student, I would be evaluating what it is that I expect to get out of university. I have never had a job where I have used anything I learned during my university courses (undergrad and MSc). Maybe I did university wrong!
Edit to say that it wasn't wasted time - I learned a lot about myself, the world and my subject. I'm old enough that I didn't have to go into giant debt to do that though.
I heard rumour of these lecture things when I was at university.
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If I were a prospective student, I would be evaluating what it is that I expect to get out of university. I have never had a job where I have used anything I learned during my university courses (undergrad and MSc). Maybe I did university wrong!
Edit to say that it wasn't wasted time - I learned a lot about myself, the world and my subject. I'm old enough that I didn't have to go into giant debt to do that though.
... whereas I have made continuous use of what I learned at uni, and have several of my old textbooks sitting on a shelf above my work desk right now.
I guess it depends on how applied the course is - almost all the physics grads I know ended up in IT or banking. If I was choosing a course with a view on a future career, I would have chosen some form of engineering.
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If I were a prospective student, I would be evaluating what it is that I expect to get out of university. I have never had a job where I have used anything I learned during my university courses (undergrad and MSc). Maybe I did university wrong!
Edit to say that it wasn't wasted time - I learned a lot about myself, the world and my subject. I'm old enough that I didn't have to go into giant debt to do that though.
... whereas I have made continuous use of what I learned at uni, and have several of my old textbooks sitting on a shelf above my work desk right now.
They still haven't bought you a monitor stand?
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If I were a prospective student, I would be evaluating what it is that I expect to get out of university. I have never had a job where I have used anything I learned during my university courses (undergrad and MSc). Maybe I did university wrong!
Edit to say that it wasn't wasted time - I learned a lot about myself, the world and my subject. I'm old enough that I didn't have to go into giant debt to do that though.
... whereas I have made continuous use of what I learned at uni, and have several of my old textbooks sitting on a shelf above my work desk right now.
They still haven't bought you a monitor stand?
Oh, they have. The monitor just had the non-useful books under it though; the RF books that I actually read had their own space on the shelf already.
(https://i.ibb.co/60z2Pd1/vhdl.jpg)
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If next year is a complete write-off then it's an issue for final year students. Every one else can do lectures and MOAR lectures and do practical the following year. Sure it would be better to do uni properly, but what are you going to do that is better than uni? Work @ Tescos? If one less fun year at uni better or worse than starting a real job a year earlier vs a year of post-school work?
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Professor Larrington tells me that Oxfod seems wedded to the notion of Business As Usual come the autumn. The notion of delivering tutorials while wearing a mask is not sitting well with her.
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In Bristol the 'Nightingale hospital' was converted out of one of UWE's buildings. I expect there are similar cases around the country. If it's deconverted for the start of the academic year, it won't be there for the expected subsequent waves. If it is, university life will be affected in some way. Or quite likely we'll achieve some midway state in which it is unusable to both academia and medicine.