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Off Topic => The Pub => The Sporting Life => Topic started by: Peter on 30 September, 2014, 08:52:34 pm
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Manchester City v Roma
Ist half: two British players on display, one for the "English" team, on for the "Italian" one. I can't work out how many of the roma team are Italian -but it might be only one!
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So if it's like that for nearly every country, is there somewhere near the South Pole or somewhere that's providing most of the players to the rest of us? ;D
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Manchester City v Roma
Ist half: two British players on display, one for the "English" team, on for the "Italian" one. I can't work out how many of the roma team are Italian -but it might be only one!
No way back from that. It's a business, not a sport. (At that level) How long before the "National" teams become a franchise?
My advice to any true footingball fan is find your local non league club and get down there at 3 on Saturday. And you you know what? It will be 3 on Saturday, not 12 on Sunday, 4 on Monday, 7 on Friday, or whatever.
Just saying, like.
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Just been to my local non-league team. They won. That's the power of a nascent franchise, I guess. ;)
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So if it's like that for nearly every country, is there somewhere near the South Pole or somewhere that's providing most of the players to the rest of us? ;D
I suspect it's largely a first world, or European thing. Whatever, it's boring. Rochdale are doing well, though....
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I believe the Bundesliga is far less reliant on bought-in talent than is the norm in BRITISH foopball and it doesn't seem to have done them a whole lot of harm.
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Good point, David.
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In one cafė we went to near Kempen the urinals had been fitted with goal posts.
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Urinals above the posts for English fans/players?
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I have vowed to abandon my lifelong support for my club when they field a team without a British or Irish player included.
I realise Ireland, Scotland and Wales have their own leagues and therefore are providing "foreign players" but "my game, my rules".
There is still clearly a (remote and fading) hope that a kid growing up near Old Trafford could actually play for Man U. It still happens.
Just like politics though, Premier league football is very short-termist at the sharp end.
A Manager is usually 10 games away from the sack, he doesn't have the luxury of developing talent for the long-term, his job is on the line from game #1.
Much simpler to buy Ronaldo now than to wait 5 years to see if that promising kid from Salford turns into the new one.
It's crap really, basing your local identity on a foreign consortium-owned club, branded as "The Divine Theatre of Saudi Ambition", staffed by a foreign coaching team and being played by an assortment of Italians, Croatians, Japanese, Spaniards and Nigerians whose agents are trying their hardest to move them on somewhere else for £300,000 a week.
Did I sum up the beautiful game accurately there?
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I wonder if local has anything to do with it now, even for fans? My son goes to a kids' football thing every week, geographically all the kids there would logically support Bristol Rovers (non-league this season, as Basil says - but tickets about the same price, £20, as for Bristol City two leagues higher - how does that work then?) but the shirts they wear (apart from non-specific t-shirts) are Arsenal, Chelsea, Barcelona, Manchester Utd. The same shirts, in fact, worn by middle-class Indians (two or three times their age) in the trendy 'lounges' of Bangalore and Puna. So I'm not sure 'local' has any relevance at all nowadays.
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Eventually it will, but looking at the evidence from Newcastle it's a long way off.
A Stevenage? based owner, a London born manager with no obvious allegiance or previous history in the North of England, a team with a few locals and the rest as imports, yet still a sell out at home games.
Likewise at Old Trafford, although the veneer is fading a bit , they will still be a sell out at home.
Gigg's class of 82 consortium have just developed a hotel near OT and before it has opened someone has booked it solid for all the weekends when MU are at home.
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The game known to USAnians as "football" is even less local than proper football - the draft system sees to that - yet local support for locally-based teams seems alive and well. Though I'm not sure what happens when a team ups sticks and moves halfway across a continent.
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Of course, Bristol Rovers will go straight back up. :hysterical laughing smiley:
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Their shirts for next season will be made of Sainsbury's bags.
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Their shirts for next season will be made of Sainsbury's bags.
I thought the Dutch international team's already were (peers nervously around for seven foot Cloggies bearing grudges)
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Their shirts for next season will be made of Sainsbury's bags.
Great news, it means I've already got a couple of replica shirts. I think I'll swap my allegiance.
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Just thinking about this a bit more; maybe it's not so much the death of local support as the rise to dominance of a few superhyper teams. So everyone, everywhere supports one of Chelsea, MU, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich (etc). Good but not supergood no longer is enough, it's top or dead. You could say it's the embodiment of that No Fear t-shirt slogan ('Second place is first loser'). Whose shirts
does Major Tom do the kids of Manchester and Barcelona wear?
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City fans liked to claim that there weren't any United fans in Manchester (i.e. Mancunians all supported City). Not true of course, and, now that City are becoming a super-team too, not much of a differential.
However, we lived to the south of Manchester, so City, at Maine Road, were our local team. OK, Stockport County were a bit nearer!
We only went to the odd match as a treat anyway though, so we're probably not representative.
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City fans liked to claim that there weren't any United fans in Manchester (i.e. Mancunians all supported City). Not true of course, and, now that City are becoming a super-team too, not much of a differential.
However, we lived to the south of Manchester, so City, at Maine Road, were our local team. OK, Stockport County were a bit nearer!
We only went to the odd match as a treat anyway though, so we're probably not representative.
I could have written your entire post drossall.
I'm a United fan from Stockport (as were about 50% of my mates, the other 50% being Citeh fans).
What people get confused about is that United have millions of non-Manc fans AS WELL AS local fans, whereas Hull don't.
Anyway...here is news about the inevitable. They tabled the idea before but it was clearly just doing the groundwork.
I imagine that Far East/Saudi money will rule over common-sense and tradition.
From BBC
The Premier League is once again considering the idea of playing competitive matches abroad.
The concept of a '39th game' was aborted back in 2008 amid fierce criticism.
But clubs are now understood to be considering playing an existing, rather than extra, round of matches overseas, keeping the season at 38 games.
Talks are at an early stage but such a proposal could come to fruition by the end of the decade
This is one step closer to the US franchise system, one step closer to "Manchester City of Dubai vs Shanghai Chelsea"
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Not sure if this warrants a thread of its own, but it does refer to franchising so I'll put it here - The Indian Super League! (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/oct/08/indian-super-league-football-fever)
They mention kids playing barefoot, which echoes what I saw - football is the sport of the dalits and the low cast and the poor (the urban poor at least, I don't know about the rural poor). The middle class young men sit in pubs wearing Chelsea shirts and watching Barcelona, but they don't play, it's just a fashion thing. The vast majority of cricket stars are from high cast and middle class backgrounds, although their fans are the whole of society. But will those Chelsea-wearing middle classes be prepared to support local teams? Perhaps, with Bolly-tastic trappings, they will - but whereas the IPL can compete with the best from England or Australia, it's going to be a long team till "Atletico de Kolkata" do the same and outglam the Atletico de Madrid. And of course when they do, they probably won't be looking to the Bengal slums for their talent.
But it is four years since I was there, that's like fourteen in Europe.
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City fans liked to claim that there weren't any United fans in Manchester (i.e. Mancunians all supported City). Not true of course, and, now that City are becoming a super-team too, not much of a differential.
However, we lived to the south of Manchester, so City, at Maine Road, were our local team. OK, Stockport County were a bit nearer!
We only went to the odd match as a treat anyway though, so we're probably not representative.
I could have written your entire post drossall.
I'm a United fan from Stockport (as were about 50% of my mates, the other 50% being Citeh fans).
One of best mates from uni was from Macclesfield. Him and all his mates were City fans and would go on about how true Mancunians supported City. I always thought that was ironic seeing as they were from Cheshire!
Incidentally, my dad supports United (not particularly passionately). He went to school in Stockport and lived in Wilmslow in his teenage years - which is kind of fitting really, as I believe many United players now live there! I would imagine it was quite different in the 50s...
I still fucking hate United mind :P
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Perhaps the top 4 could fuck off to the oil states for playoffs - and gold limousines to each winnning player.
Then the rest of us can ignore them and watch proper sport. It's not like the fans in the rest of the permiership - let alone the other 3 divisions - give a monkeys about which billionaires' plaything is "best".
p.s. Peter, im sure you posted exactly the same views a few years back. And Lee said all the same things in response. So they must be true!
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;D
I'd be happy for the top 4 to go for the whole season!
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BBC today.
England could play home games around the country from 2018 if an NFL team bases itself at Wembley.
The Football Association is obliged to hold matches at the stadium until 2017 but wants an American Football franchise to replace those revenues.
So there is serious talk about an American Football team basing itself at Wembley.
I really do think this will be the model for the high-revenue sports in 20 years.
Ironically NFL stands for National Football League.
Mattc, you missed a meeting on gold limousines. Do try and keep up, this is El Hadji Diouf’s
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/El-Hadji-Dioufs-Gold-Plated-Cadillac-Escalade-500x293.jpg)
He could have saved himself £100,000 and asked me to spray the word "C**T" on a Ford Fiesta (It would have achieved the same result and I'd have done it for free).
A triple whammy of terrible taste:
1 - Chrysler Edit - Cadillac (even worse)
2 - Escalade
3 - Gold
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The Escalade is a Cadillac or, put another way,a Chevy with delusions of grandeur.
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#Drove my Chavvy to the Lavvy
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Will Baseball eat itself?
Giancarlo Stanton has agreed the most expensive ever deal in United States sport by signing a £208m ($325m) 13-year contract with Miami Marlins.
The new deal for the 25-year-old includes a no-trade clause and Stanton can opt out after six years
Worth noting that even at £208 million over 13 years he doesn't earn the most annually.
It's a nice gift to give any 25 year old, a guaranteed £16 million a year until he is 38 and retired.
In case you were wondering whether £208 million is a lot of money let me help put that in perspective.....
That's £43,835 ...every day...365 days a year....for the next 13 years.
Something has to give doesn't it? That's just one man. The public, in various ways, some obvious, some more discreet, are paying one man this amount of money.
It begs the question "How many hungry people can you feed with that sort of money?". I'm thinking £43,000 a day feeds a at least 4300 people a day.
Has the revolution started yet?
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I take it Mr Stanton is jolly good at rounders then?
I don't mind the game itself but as soon as a USAnian colemantator opens his mouth on the subject my eyes glaze over and I start to yearn for something more cerebral, like NASCAR.
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I take it Mr Stanton is jolly good at rounders then?
I can only assume that someone checked.
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I take it Mr Stanton is jolly good at rounders then?
I can only assume that someone checked.
Does anyone know what the former directors of Enron are doing these days :demon:
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Lionel Messi is a marvellous player, but £210 million? :o
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Today's BBC Sport Football website "Front Page"
Articles about....
Drogba
Aguero
Sanchez
Messi
Ronaldo
Mourinho
Wenger
Van Gaal
Neuer
Rodriguez
Van Persie
Koemann
Pochettino
Martinez
Bruce
Gerrard
Roche
Rodgers
Pardew
Then if you start scrolling to the lower leagues you start to see more English players/Managers.
"It's the best league in the World" apparently. like I'm supposed to take some sort of national pride in that statement.
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It's changed now to feature Dave Whelan and his contribution to racial and religious harmony.
With idiots like him and Malcy Mckay, as examples of U.K football leadership , do we really deserve to have more Brits in the top echelons?
It would be nice to see Steve McLaren prove all those who christened him "Wally with a brolly" wrong by getting Derby into the Premiership but until then Arsen ,Jose, Harold, Gus and Mario will do fine.
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It's changed now to feature Dave Whelan and his contribution to racial and religious harmony.
With idiots like him and Malcy Mckay, as examples of U.K football leadership , do we really deserve to have more Brits in the top echelons?
It would be nice to see Steve McLaren prove all those who christened him "Wally with a brolly" wrong by getting Derby into the Premiership but until then Arsen ,Jose, Harold, Gus and Mario will do fine.
Well I was trying to keep this to English numbers in the Premiership. As far as I'm concerned Malcy Mckay is another foreigner in the English Premiership.
Making dubious statements about racially sensitive topics isn't the sole preserve of the English footballing contingent.
Mario "Why Always Me?" Balotelli * just made some fairly offensive remarks.
* - Mario, it's because you're a dick.
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Mario "Why Always Me?" Balotelli * just made some fairly offensive remarks.
* - Mario, it's because you're a dick.
Yep ! ;D
Bit off-topic, but also got a good laugh at Mourino crying over the ball boys at Newcaslte :thumbsup:
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Football will eat itself and its the fans who will get the food poisoning.
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It was amusing to hear anecdotes of Arsenal fans fighting each other after a friendly discussion about the employment prospects of their manager.
Is that still classed as football related violence or do opposition fans have to be involved as well?
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BBC today.
England could play home games around the country from 2018 if an NFL team bases itself at Wembley.
The Football Association is obliged to hold matches at the stadium until 2017 but wants an American Football franchise to replace those revenues.
So there is serious talk about an American Football team basing itself at Wembley.
I really do think this will be the model for the high-revenue sports in 20 years.
Ironically NFL stands for National Football League.
Mattc, you missed a meeting on gold limousines. Do try and keep up, this is El Hadji Diouf’s
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/El-Hadji-Dioufs-Gold-Plated-Cadillac-Escalade-500x293.jpg)
He could have saved himself £100,000 and asked me to spray the word "C**T" on a Ford Fiesta (It would have achieved the same result and I'd have done it for free).
A triple whammy of terrible taste:
1 - Chrysler Edit - Cadillac (even worse)
2 - Escalade
3 - Gold
I'll buy you the can of paint provided you use a more appropriate epithet ; something like KN**BER or BO**OK BRAIN although these might not fit on a Ford Fiesta.
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What percentage do Footballers' agents take?
Is it 15-20%? Is that of everything? (transfer fee, weekly wage, endorsements). Do they take a Buyer AND Seller fee I wonder.
I ask because "football super-agent" Jorges Mendes has been interviewed by the BBC this week.
Turns out his clients are:
(including) Diego Costa, Yacine Brahimi, José Mourinho, Luiz Felipe Scolari, Carlos Queiroz, Simão Sabrosa, Anderson, Fábio Coentrão, Pepe, Ángel Di María, Cristiano Ronaldo, Radamel Falcao García, Ricardo Carvalho, Nani, Ricardo Quaresma, Burak Yılmaz, João Moutinho, James Rodríguez, David de Gea and Víctor Valdés.
Clearly a strong Portuguese connection.
It doesn't take much to work out that Mendes must be rolling in it. Ronaldo alone transferred to Madrid for £80million and has a reported weekly wage of £500,000. He's now valued at £300 million so you can imagine that his weekly wage may approach a million.
His career as a huge money earner is likely to be three times as long as his clients.
If we remove the Oil Field owners out of the equation then it's likely that the richest people in football are the top agents. Mendes is certainly worth more than most traditional football club owners.
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You keep using this word "worth"!
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It seems probable that football agents are like estate agents, recruitment agents and most other job titles using the word "agent": an artificial obstacle between seller and buyer in order to extract as much money as possible from both by preventing the two doing any sort of deal.
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You keep using this word "worth"!
I get your point but I wouldn't say I keep using it.
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Eventually it will, but looking at the evidence from Newcastle it's a long way off.
A Stevenage? based owner, a London born manager with no obvious allegiance or previous history in the North of England, a team with a few locals and the rest as imports, yet still a sell out at home games.
Likewise at Old Trafford, although the veneer is fading a bit , they will still be a sell out at home.
Gigg's class of 82 consortium have just developed a hotel near OT and before it has opened someone has booked it solid for all the weekends when MU are at home.
United were still attracting 50,000 plus attendances before the stadium upgrade. In fact, in November 1974 when they were
in the old second division, a crowd of 60,585 saw them beat (second placed) Sunderland 3-2 (I was there in the Stretford End).
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You keep using this word "worth"!
I get your point but I wouldn't say I keep using it.
Sorry about that, Lee, I'm not quite sure how that happened! Of course, I meant Mendes and his ilk, who keep suggesting that such and such a player is "worth" this or that.
Peter
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How do you compare with a footballer?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-31110113
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Well, I earn a lot less, but the public sector pays my wages and there isn't much call for replica kits and other merchandise.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-31379128
Incredible. 5.14 billion for 3 year TV rights. The chief exec was on Today this morning squirming when asked about clubs not paying living wages to some.
The TV deal seems more a reflection of the global value of the game, rather than side effects of the game and its stars beign so far up their own arses that eating themselves would be unpleasant. Although the amount poured into the game directly influences the behaviour of those in the game, i think its a different issue.
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Well, I earn a lot less, but the public sector pays my wages and there isn't much call for replica kits and other merchandise.
Teethgrinder has replica shirts but I don't think he's actually earning anything right now, despite arguably showing more dedication to his sport than top footballers.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-31379128
The Premier League plans to invest £56m in grassroots projects, including 50 artificial pitches.
:D
The BBC employ someone with a sense of humour!
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/15/football-one-of-the-inequalities-that-bedevil-us-premier-league
Will Hutton clearly reads YACF.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-31379128
Incredible. 5.14 billion for 3 year TV rights. The chief exec was on Today this morning squirming when asked about clubs not paying living wages to some.
The TV deal seems more a reflection of the global value of the game, rather than side effects of the game and its stars beign so far up their own arses that eating themselves would be unpleasant. Although the amount poured into the game directly influences the behaviour of those in the game, i think its a different issue.
19 teams play each other 19 times, 361 games a season. Multiply that by 3 years and you have 1083 games.
£5,000,000,000 / 1083 = £4.6 million a game.
That assumes every game is televised. I suppose some people must be excited enough to pay to watch Burnley vs Hull but mainly I expect there is enormous resale value for Chelsea vs Manchester United around the globe.
I'm glad I don't contribute to any of this.
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Is the maths not a bit different?
20 teams play 38 games each = 760 games a season
Still big figures, though.
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Each match involves two teams though, so that's back down to 380 games.
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Sorry, I haven't read the deal; assumed each match would be involved, and as each team plays the others home and away.....
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Yes, it's a double-round all-play-all involving 20 teams, so 10 matches per round. 20 teams, therefore 19 others to play, twice. 38 rounds. 380 games.
[/chess arbiter]
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I went for the cruder proof of actually working it out for a small number - 4 teams, each plays the other H&A, total of 12 matches.
For n teams, the number of matches per matchday is n/2, the number of matchdays is (n/2)(n-1), and the number of matches is n(n-1). In this case it's 4x3=12 matches, for 20 teams it's 20x19=380.
wk1 wk2 wk3 wk4 wk5 wk6
AB AC AD BA CA DA
CD BD BC DC DB CB
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http://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/roundRobinPairings.pdf shows "round robin" pairings for up to 14 players. NB an all-play-all with an odd number of players has the same number of rounds as an apa with one more player.
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Southampton manager Ronald Koeman says some players at rival clubs are motivated by money.
I know this may have come as quite a shock to many of us but, if we all pull together, through this difficult time, we'll get through it I'm sure.
At a press-conference later today it's expected he will make an announcement on the Pope's religious affiliations.
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Apparently, cry-baby Balotelli has (or had) a Lambo painted in camouflage.
I don't know which is worse - paying £250,000 for a car capable of 200 mph to drive in Manchester, or thinking such a car would look good with an MOD paint job.
It did however seem a particularly good idea for me to adopt, so I am thinking of hand daubing full desert storm colours on the ancient Raleigh I use to cycle down the local woods for a spot of pigeon shooting.
The Raleigh cost me £25, and would probably still be worth the same once I have finished - in fact, it might even enhance it's value.
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Balotelli used to have a cammo Bentley Continental GT, so I don't know whether he should be applauded for buying Italian or derided for being a twat.
Yes, I know they're both ultimately Volkswagens :P
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Man City pay Liverpool £49,000,000 for 20 year old Raheem Sterling.
F***ing Mental.
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In one cafė we went to near Kempen the urinals had been fitted with goal posts.
I do hope Diego Maradona remembers to wash his hands.
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Man City pay Liverpool £49,000,000 for 20 year old Raheem Sterling.
F***ing Mental.
Signed a five year contract which to Sterling and his agent translates to halfway through next season.
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Not too much boring stuff on football transfers, please
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Meanwhile, Chelsea have just forked out a BRITISH record fee to sign Fran Kirby from Reading.
The amount? £60,000 :o
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Meanwhile, Chelsea have just forked out a BRITISH record fee to sign Fran Kirby from Reading.
The amount? £60,000 :o
Wow!
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I rarely read reports on football games. However, I do make an exception when an event, or a series of events, leads to the humbling of an arrogant tosser. Thus it is that I have been following the recent misfortunes of Chelsea and their oleaginous manager José Mourinho.
But why does he call himself the "special one"? Is he unaware of the connotations of that particular adjective?
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(http://11-11.tv/phpbb2/files/thumbs/t_owl_speshul_brother_107.jpg)
Chelsea players made critics look stupid
But you still went out of the League Cup, Joey. What's Pork'n'cheese for "schadenfreude"?
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I particularly enjoyed the Liverpool fans chanting "your not special anymore" when they played him in the CL a few seasons back.
Might nip over to Rothesay and have a word with Roman next time hes cycling over there and ask him to get rid.
(http://i3.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article5997107.ece/ALTERNATES/s1023/JS67429910.jpg)
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Don't bother. The longer he's managing Chelsea, the better it is for the rest of us.
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And tomorrow the Special One plays the Normal One. I predict some ska!
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(http://11-11.tv/phpbb2/files/thumbs/t_owl_speshul_brother_107.jpg)
Oi, you leave me out of this! :demon:
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Hah! Get thee to a wolery!
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Ha ! :thumbsup:
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But why does he call himself the "special one"? Is he unaware of the connotations of that particular adjective?
He doesn't. The media do.
He did originally refer to himself in an interview as "A special one", but it was in reference to the number of very big and well known clubs he'd been a manager of and it was pretty obvious that "Special one" was meant as "Fortunate one". It's just that his English wasn't that great back then and he clearly struggled to find the right words. Of course, the media jumped on it straight away and for some inexplicable reason, people believed he had proclaimed himself "The special one" because it said so in The Sun, or The Guardian or whatever rag they read it in.
He's still a knob, but there's no need to believe stuff made up about him....
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Given that, as I said in my post, I normally try to avoid such stuff, and that my post was couched in the terms of a question, I don't think I actually believed anything. "Facts", as posited in national newspapers, are at best regarded as something which may not be entirely without truth, but equally may be.
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He doesn't. The media do.
He did originally refer to himself in an interview as "A special one", but it was in reference to the number of very big and well known clubs he'd been a manager of and it was pretty obvious that "Special one" was meant as "Fortunate one". It's just that his English wasn't that great back then and he clearly struggled to find the right words.
No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pybQAg2YUxY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pybQAg2YUxY)
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He doesn't call himself "The Special One" in that clip.
(If we're going to get pedantic, let's get this right :P )
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He doesn't. The media do.
He did originally refer to himself in an interview as "A special one", but it was in reference to the number of very big and well known clubs he'd been a manager of and it was pretty obvious that "Special one" was meant as "Fortunate one". It's just that his English wasn't that great back then and he clearly struggled to find the right words.
No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pybQAg2YUxY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pybQAg2YUxY)
OK, fair enough, I misremembered it a bit, but he still does not call himself THE special one...
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He doesn't. The media do.
He did originally refer to himself in an interview as "A special one", but it was in reference to the number of very big and well known clubs he'd been a manager of and it was pretty obvious that "Special one" was meant as "Fortunate one". It's just that his English wasn't that great back then and he clearly struggled to find the right words.
No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pybQAg2YUxY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pybQAg2YUxY)
OK, fair enough, I misremembered it a bit, but he still does not call himself THE special one...
Agreed, but he knew precisely what he was saying.
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Not sure if this really fits in this thread, but: Wenger saying things along the lines of "other teams inject their players, I never have" sounds to me a bit like "I know that not only have other teams used organised doping but I've let my players do it on an individual basis".
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Or perhaps he's talking about quick-fix pain-killing injections administered on thr pitch or at half-time - or before a game?
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"doped" was the word he used.
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Ah, that wasn't clear from your post.
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Lionel Messi's agents have had initial discussions about a deal with Manchester City that would see the 28-year-old Barcelona and Argentina forward join on a weekly wage of £800,000
£20,000 an hour, considering a 40 hour week. To put that in perspective that's more than some London emergency plumbers!!!
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;D
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Leicester are top of the table having beaten Chelsea. The whole Leicester team "cost" less than Chelsea's inconsequential centre forward. Wouldn't it be marvellous if this was the direction football was heading? We can dream.
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Lionel Messi's agents have had initial discussions about a deal with Manchester City that would see the 28-year-old Barcelona and Argentina forward join on a weekly wage of £800,000
£20,000 an hour, considering a 40 hour week. To put that in perspective that's more than some London emergency plumbers!!!
But he only does 90 minutes on a Saturday afternoon and a mid week game from time to time! So more like a 4 hour week.
Yes - I know the train as well but I doubt it's 40 hours a week
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The Chinese equivalent of the premier league are supposedly eyeing up Wayne Rooney and have put a £75 million price tag on him. At that sort of money ManU will probably be tempted to sell.
Sven goran Erickson thinks it would be a good move. But then what does he know?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-captain-wayne-rooney-6888223 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-captain-wayne-rooney-6888223)
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The Chinese equivalent of the premier league are supposedly eyeing up Wayne Rooney and have put a £75 million price tag on him. At that sort of money ManU will probably be tempted to sell.
FTFY
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The good news is that Man U would then spend the £75m on 4.5 crap players and 0.5 of a good one.
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Jose takes a dive.
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Would that be a Josedive?
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Wikipedia has some interesting statistics about nationalities of players in Champions League/European Cup teams. The contrast between Arsenal's 2006 side and the other English and Scottish sides mentioned is striking:
Nationalities
Benfica twice won the competition (1961 and 1962) with a team consisting entirely of Portuguese players, although some of them had been born in Portuguese African colonies, then Overseas Provinces of Portugal but now independent nations.
Celtic won the competition in 1967 with their entire squad born within a 30-mile radius of Celtic Park, their home ground.
Nottingham Forest (1979 and 1980) won twice with a team consisting of players from England, Scotland and Northern Ireland (Martin O'Neill played in the 1980 final).
Liverpool won in 1981 with a team consisting of players from England and Scotland.
Aston Villa also won the European Cup (1982) with a team consisting entirely of players from England and Scotland.
Arsenal are believed to be the first club in Champions League history to have fielded 11 players of different nationality at the same time, in their 2–1 win away to Hamburg on 13 September 2006. The Arsenal team, after the 28th minute substitution of Kolo Touré, was: Jens Lehmann (Germany), Emmanuel Eboué (Côte d'Ivoire), Johan Djourou (Switzerland), Justin Hoyte (England), William Gallas (France), Tomáš Rosický (Czech Republic), Gilberto Silva (Brazil), Cesc Fàbregas (Spain), Alexander Hleb (Belarus), Emmanuel Adebayor (Togo) and Robin van Persie (Netherlands).[14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Cup_and_UEFA_Champions_League_records_and_statistics#By_nation
The Celtic way might make you feel all pride-of-placey but I can't quite bring myself to condemn the globalism of Arsenal.
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And tonight's silly stat from MotD2 was that the last time an all English team played in the Premier League was Aston Villa in 1999.
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In a secondhand bookshop a while ago I picked up the autobiography of one Charles Buchan, who played for Sunderland and Arsenal from 1910 to about 1928. He writes a lot about transfer fees and how they rose roughly fivefold in the aftermath of WWI. He puts this down to simple supply and demand: a lot of the pre-war players had retired or been wounded or killed, while at the same time the demand had increased by the introduction of the Third Division in 1920. At the same time, players' wages were falling, which he also blames on the Third Division: prior to this, the Southern League was a separate organisation and a player who was dissatisfied with their wages or conditions in a Football League club could easily join a Southern League team because no transfer fee was payable. One the Southern League was amalgamated with the Football League, this was no longer possible. The Players Union was contemplating a strike at the end of the 1920 season, demanding a rise in the maximum wage from £9 a week to £10 but it didn't happen and in the end the maximum wage was actually reduced to £8 in season and £6 out of season. It seems football has always been eating itself in one way or another.
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Blimey! The maximum wage was only twenty quid a week when it was abolished in 1961 :o
I blame Jimmy Hill.
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He mentions being offered £3 a week by a First Division club in 1909. "It was really a wonderful offer when you consider that the wages of a fully-trained engineer, fitter and turner, or a carpenter were 37s 6d. And they had to serve a five-years apprenticeship before they got it." He turned it down though because he wanted to become a schoolteacher. I reckon the footballer:engineer wage ratio has increased somewhat since then.
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The Celtic way might make you feel all pride-of-placey but I can't quite bring myself to condemn the globalism of Arsenal.
I think it's time to question why people support their local clubs, especially Premiership clubs.
What relationship do they have with them and how do they feel their local club represents them over, say, another Premier League club?
It's typical to have a foreign owner, a club sponsored by an overseas company, a foreign manager, foreign coaching staff and mostly foreign players*
What exactly are the fans cheering about and why do they feel the need to punch an opposing fan?
Is it because their Ivory Coast striker is better than the other's?
It's become a very strange relationship.
* Manchester United have quite a good record in the "Local Boy Makes Good" stakes though. Fletcher Moss Rangers, just 4 miles south of Old Trafford becoming quite a famous supplier of talented kids who get to play in the first team.
More than anything I don't think you can beat a "local boy makes Good" in your side. It provides the fans with a small hope that they could also play for their local club.
It also gives you a player who you KNOW will pull out all the stops for the club, when the foreign legion are busy trying to get a better deal somewhere warmer.
It's no coincidence that Manchester United won so many games in the last few minutes (and beyond) when 5 or 6 of the team were boyhood United fans.
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"It's no coincidence that Manchester United won so many games in the last few minutes (and beyond) when 5 or 6 of the team were boyhood United fans."
Not forgetting the referees who added on the statistically proven Fergie Time (now transferred to Liverpool!)
Manchester United's youth policy has always been excellent. I wish more teams would go that way. There were a glorious few weeks when Newcastle had a young Andy Carroll in blistering form at the front and the very dependable local captain Stephen Taylor at the back, a local resurgence. Then Carroll lamped Taylor in the dressing room and Ashton took the opportunity to cash his chips - which has been policy ever since. Just as well it's only a game.
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Not forgetting the referees who added on the statistically proven Fergie Time (now transferred to Liverpool!)
.. Remember that the other team were also allowed to score in Fergie time.
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Then it would just have gone on.... and on.. and on.....!
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We've got a local team with a local company owner. Who wants to move the side to J13 M5, which is not such a catchy name.
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Forest Green is the greatest name in the "top" 5 divisions. Admittedly, it doesn't have quite the resonance of "Milton Keynes Don'ts"!
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I think it's time to question why people support their local clubs, especially Premiership clubs.
How many people actually support their local club, or a club that was local at some earlier point in their lives?
Cue the joke about most ManU supporters living in Surrey, though even in my first few months in this country I knew they weren't resettled Mancunians.
When I came to the UK my closest Premiership club, as the crow flies, was a tie between Spurs and Hammers. My support went to Leyton Orient, very much my local club. This surprised many people, but I pointed out 1) my partner supported no club, so free to choose, 2) I lived in Leyton, which had a professional club, 3) I saw no need to support a Premiership club.
Where I live now I can hear the Hammers fans during matches - not that they often have anything to sing about - but Orient is my team.
We now return you to the discussion of £$€ ruining football...
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Didn't FGR go through a season or two known as Stroud United? Even having grown up in the area, I'd find it hard to locate Forest Green on a map. Or in real life. But it is a good name.
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The did, and during that time the support fell away, so they changed it back.
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They need a really catchy, funky, snazzy name: Junction 13 Jammers should do it!
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And now foopball has eaten Steve McLaren.
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Rafa Benitez is convinced that he can keep Newcastle in the Premiership.
But not that convinced, as he has a get out clause in his contract that allows him to walk away if they end up in the Championship.
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UEFA hardly needs a good reason to hammer Liverpool and Man Utd, last nights crowd trouble isn't going to go down well at all.
I would not be surprised at closed-door games in euro competitions, or even bans.
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Forest Green have got Mark Cooper as manager next season. In 2014-15 he was managing Swindon Town, and did very well, getting them to the League 1 play-offs. Unfortunately the owner decided he was to blame for a dip in form and got rid of him, after which the team continued to perform disappointingly. He's a good manager although he does tend to say what he thinks about referees.
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We'll let you know how he gets on. He used to play for us. He takes over after Sunday, a rather most important match for us, against the fish. I was on Radio Humberside yesterday explaining where Forwst Green is, it's a huge story ;D
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Old Trafford "bomb" a device left behind after a dog-training exercise by "a private company". Sadly Gary Lineker was either unable or unwilling to name names.
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I reckon this was part of the same exercise that involved the Traffod Centre earlier last week, the news report did say that other venues were involved.
A while ago I went to an anti-terrorist training lecture and there were a few cassette tape box training incendiary devices taped under desks. I found one and got to keep it. I used to use it in training exercises for my buildings.
I wish I knew where it ended up...
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Cue the joke about most ManU supporters living in Surrey, though even in my first few months in this country I knew they weren't resettled Mancunians.
My favourite ManU/referee bias joke...
ManU supporter to Neutral: "I missed the match - what was the result"
Neutral: "It was a draw: 1-1"
ManU supporter: "Oh! Who missed our penalty?"
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Old Trafford "bomb" a device left behind after a dog-training exercise by "a private company". Sadly Gary Lineker was either unable or unwilling to name names.
Security Search Management & Solutions Ltd were used to help carry out theoretical and practical dog training exercises.
The company, which are registered in Kent, were hired for the exercise by United’s usual dog trainers, Deacons Canines.
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Damn! Part of me was hoping it was G4S or Serco.
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I suppose it's appropriate that the company is registered in Kent, they wouldn't want to be associated with anyone local would they?
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They often have to delay the kick-off at Old Trafford because the M6 is closed south of Mordor, y'know.
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They often have to delay the kick-off at Old Trafford because the M6 is closed south of Mordor, y'know.
The M6 continues south of Mordor?
You learn something new every day.
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What a shitty day. First I lose my backpack and then the stadium gets evacuated :-[
63 Thoughts Everyone Who’s Accidentally Left A Fake Bomb In Old Trafford Has Had
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tomphillips/weve-all-done-it?utm_term=.nsZQRJP2G#.hrz2EMJR6 (https://www.buzzfeed.com/tomphillips/weve-all-done-it?utm_term=.nsZQRJP2G#.hrz2EMJR6)
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What a shitty day. First I lose my backpack and then the stadium gets evacuated :-[
Total and utter incompetence on behalf of Chris Reid who was responsible for the company. Hopefully he will not be employed in this area again.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/boss-security-firm-centre-old-11341610 (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/boss-security-firm-centre-old-11341610)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/16/owner-of-security-firm-blamed-for-man-utd-old-trafford-bomb-scar/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/16/owner-of-security-firm-blamed-for-man-utd-old-trafford-bomb-scar/)
Having been involved in similar scenarios, the golden rule is to never assume and always make the physical check that any devices have been retrieved. Clearly the man has displayed gross incompetence.
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...and will be the next Chief Constable of South Yorkshire.
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Clearly the man has displayed gross incompetence.
He's also given great insight into the security measures used at football grounds.
Every arsehole now knows that a bit of pipe with a phone gaffer-taped to it will cause widespread panic amongst the security bods (and there's almost no way to prevent people bringing bits of pipe, phones and gaffer tape into a ground.
Didn't Heathrow security plant a big pack of drugs in a real passenger's suitcase (not even a dummy suitcase), to test the sniffer dog's abilities?. Unfortunately the sniffer dog had a cold that day and didn't find it and the drugs never turned up. That was one surprised passenger I bet. I hope they had a nice relaxing evening after they unpacked (although I always thought it was a suspicious story).
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Last year I reported a suspicious rucksack left outside a local sporting venue. They took it very seriously at the time and I notice they post a security guard there now. A bomb there would have been extremely nasty.
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Quite rightly Old Trafford management have said that they would do exactly the same in the event of something similar.
Otherwise the real terrorists would make real bombs with the words "training device" plastered all over the outside and with a movement trigger inside.
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He's also given great insight into the security measures used at football grounds.
Every arsehole now knows that a bit of pipe with a phone gaffer-taped to it will cause widespread panic amongst the security bods (and there's almost no way to prevent people bringing bits of pipe, phones and gaffer tape into a ground.
Which is why the idiot needs ............... What he did has far greater ramifications than what happened on Sunday and 'copy cat' by the McTerrorism brigade will be saying "oh thanks for showing us that".
Quite rightly Old Trafford management have said that they would do exactly the same in the event of something similar.
Otherwise the real terrorists would make real bombs with the words "training device" plastered all over the outside and with a movement trigger inside.
And let us not forget it was the Police who evacuated and took control of the situation, not MUFC management.
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It all looked very orderly but I wonder how much quicker the evacuation would have been if there hadn't been time added on?
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The patronising suggestion that a terrorist is thick enough to need this incident to give them an idea is laughable.
All they have to do is blow themselves up outside the stadium as fans arrive.
This isn't the IRA circa 1982.
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Quote Jaded- All they have to do is blow themselves up outside the stadium as fans arrive.
Which is what happened at Stade de France , except the fans were inside.
Since that event, security at OT was ramped up , everyone going into hospitality undergoes bag and body searches and you can't even take in water.(not that you need to Manchester water is drinkable ,so I am told.)
I dont know what they do at the turnstiles as searching 70,000 people is pretty difficult. I suppose they take the view that a few MU fans are expendable. I do. ;)
Veloman-of course the Police took control, I think that OT were supporting the police view and justifying the abandonment rather than trying to take any credit .
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The patronising suggestion that a terrorist is thick enough to need this incident to give them an idea is laughable.
All they have to do is blow themselves up outside the stadium as fans arrive.
This isn't the IRA circa 1982.
Blowing themselves up is difficult as you need to get the explosives etc. The clue to terrorism is in the title; you don't have to kill in order to terrorise, or disrupt, or make life a misery for others. The McTerror brigade, or just idiots wanting to disrupt things, have been given a great idea courtesy of someone who was not only so incompetent as to not account for devices planted, he then went to show the type of device that would cause such evacuation. Complete and utter idiot.
Next time your team are losing, phone-up with a bomb threat. Next time you want a day off school, phone-up with a bomb threat. Oh wait, that has already happened in the UK in the West Midlands.
Don't recall the killers of Lee Rigby blowing themselves up. It isn't the IRA in 1982. It's available to anyone and can be very low tech.
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We have moved on from 1982 and I hope that phone tracking technology and data recording of same would enable better detective work than was possible then.
Anyway back to football and the crazy money spinner of play-offs.
In the championship play-offs ,Sheffield Wednesday , who finished 15 points behind the third team Brighton, could get promotion to the Premier League if they beat Hull City in the play off final.
Brighton missed promotion by virtue of a poorer goal difference compared with Middlesborough.
Something's wrong.
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Same thing happened to Forest Green, who finished nine points ahead of Grimspby and I don't think were out of the top two all season, except for games in hand situations. Of course, it could be argued by opponents that they all know the rules and that by the time the season drew to a close, the "lower" teams had reached a point where they were better than those above them. It's a conundrum - and one that might have involved Newcastle staying up!
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The patronising suggestion that a terrorist is thick enough to need this incident to give them an idea is laughable.
All they have to do is blow themselves up outside the stadium as fans arrive.
This isn't the IRA circa 1982.
Blowing themselves up is difficult as you need to get the explosives etc. The clue to terrorism is in the title; you don't have to kill in order to terrorise, or disrupt, or make life a misery for others. The McTerror brigade, or just idiots wanting to disrupt things, have been given a great idea courtesy of someone who was not only so incompetent as to not account for devices planted, he then went to show the type of device that would cause such evacuation. Complete and utter idiot.
Next time your team are losing, phone-up with a bomb threat. Next time you want a day off school, phone-up with a bomb threat. Oh wait, that has already happened in the UK in the West Midlands.
Don't recall the killers of Lee Rigby blowing themselves up. It isn't the IRA in 1982. It's available to anyone and can be very low tech.
Fake devices have been known about for decades, not just a week.
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Same thing happened to Forest Green, who finished nine points ahead of Grimspby and I don't think were out of the top two all season, except for games in hand situations. Of course, it could be argued by opponents that they all know the rules and that by the time the season drew to a close, the "lower" teams had reached a point where they were better than those above them. It's a conundrum - and one that might have involved Newcastle staying up!
I think the manager lost the dressing room, the quality of football over the last three months has been poor. Play-offs are interesting - in the old days if you were 2nd, and to go up, you'd go up. Now what matters more is your ability in a knock-out match, and your form at the time of the play-offs. Our form was poor, even though we were 2nd.
It would have been good to see Newcastle stay up >:(
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The patronising suggestion that a terrorist is thick enough to need this incident to give them an idea is laughable.
All they have to do is blow themselves up outside the stadium as fans arrive.
This isn't the IRA circa 1982.
I'd like to take this opportunity to apologise to all terrorists for implying they may be stupid*
*Like none of them ever set fire to their own underpants and genitals.
I'd go as far as to suggest that many terrorists (or would-be terrorists) ARE stupid.
It's incredibly easy to cause maximum disruption to a western city, with minimum risk and with out that much loss of life actually.
I'm actually surprised that there aren't daily events/disruptions.
4 people and 4 empty, but "suspicious", Transit vans, and one phone call, could gridlock London for 24 hours.
No loss of life but huge disruption and publicity.
"Just blowing yourself up" involves explosives, and that raises the game significantly.
The security forces will have undercover operatives monitoring that level of activity. That's why they keep finding "Bomb Factories".
Almost every incident involving Bombs and guns also involve people being monitored (OK, unsuccessfully) by security forces. That implies they know the "hard-liners".
It's actually reassuring how few incidents there are. It tells me this isn't a war with Islam, it's a war with just a few nut-jobs.
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Quote Jaded- All they have to do is blow themselves up outside the stadium as fans arrive.
I dont know what they do at the turnstiles as searching 70,000 people is pretty difficult. I suppose they take the view that a few MU fans are expendable. I do. ;)
I'm not a soccer fan but have attended Wembley with 70,000 others for the NFL games there for the past two years and both times had my bag searched. Each entrance gate had a queue (quite orderly) at the turnstile and we went through and they inspected every single bag1 and scanned each of us with an airport type explosive (I assume that's what it is) hand scanner. I don't know if this is a Wembley thing or if it happens at all large stadiums but it's quite clear they expect you in good time for the game to ensure such a process can happen.
The mass of people waiting in the tunnel for the tube station after game would be another matter however.....
1 I misread the rules and took my DSLR camera the first time. They held us back out of the way until they realised they didn't want the problem any more and let us through with it in the end with a warning not to use it!
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We've had daily bomb alerts. Bag searches going into shops. Disruption to public transport in spades.
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(https://anarchistmedia.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/bomb.jpg)
Somebody set up us the bomb.
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The patronising suggestion that a terrorist is thick enough to need this incident to give them an idea is laughable.
All they have to do is blow themselves up outside the stadium as fans arrive.
This isn't the IRA circa 1982.
Blowing themselves up is difficult as you need to get the explosives etc. The clue to terrorism is in the title; you don't have to kill in order to terrorise, or disrupt, or make life a misery for others. The McTerror brigade, or just idiots wanting to disrupt things, have been given a great idea courtesy of someone who was not only so incompetent as to not account for devices planted, he then went to show the type of device that would cause such evacuation. Complete and utter idiot.
Next time your team are losing, phone-up with a bomb threat. Next time you want a day off school, phone-up with a bomb threat. Oh wait, that has already happened in the UK in the West Midlands.
Don't recall the killers of Lee Rigby blowing themselves up. It isn't the IRA in 1982. It's available to anyone and can be very low tech.
ISTR that causing people to think there is a bomb threat is a very serious offence which carries a heavy prison sentence. Urban legend has it that this used to be a common trick for delaying a flight if you were running late - but the last few people to check in are always the prime suspects.
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I honestly didn't know it was the FA Cup Final today.
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You'll hear about the Scottish Cup final, I don't doubt.
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You'll hear about the Scottish Cup final, I don't doubt.
... and we may hear more about the FA VASe final than usual:
PETA's concerns over Hereford FC's Ronaldo the bull at Wembley
18 May 2016 Last updated at 17:01 BST
An animal rights group is calling for a "cruel" plan to parade a bull at Wembley ahead of the FA Vase final to be stopped.
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Man U get Jose. Does this confirm them forsaking any last grasp on being a football club rather than a business franchise or did that happen a long time back ? I suspect the latter.
He'll win things I'm sure but I'm glad I'm not a real fan. His arrival would leave a real bad taste in my mouth. Pretty sure the Glazers know what theyre doing though, for their tenure of Man U.
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Personally, I think it's a mistake (Mourinho to Man Utd, that is). I don't think he's a fit for the club and it'll end in tears as he starts to stamp his feet. He'll have success initially as the players enjoy a new dawn (sounds like a near player mutiny at Old Trafford at the moment) but I think he's too much of an egotist to belong.
I'm not fan of Van Gaal (nothing against him either) but I reckon he's been treated shoddily - for all his reported faults.
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Two seasons of glory (or something approximating to that), then slight disillusionment and he'll be out the door mid-way through his fourth season.
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What Andrew said. I predict: this will not end well. Especially for Ryan Giggs.
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Pretty sure the Glazers know what theyre doing though, for their tenure of Man U.
It has been reported that 1300 announcement by MUFC has been timed to coincide with opening of NY Stock Exchange. So yes, in a business sense the Glazers know what they are doing.
As for treatment of LVG, I would ensure JM's agent was suitably briefed not to repeat such indiscretion. Of course, he knew there would be a media frenzy and it all smacks of very poor taste which implicates JM.
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If they're not onside I trust in the linesman to find them out.
You have to trust something in this world.
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If they're not onside I trust in the linesman to find them out.
You have to trust something in this world.
eh?
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Football eh? Game of two halves. And extra time. Then penalties.
Ref! Linesman!! Eh? Eh? Early doors. Jumpers for goalposts eh?
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Football eh? Game of two halves. And extra time. Then penalties.
Ref! Linesman!! Eh? Eh? Early doors. Jumpers for goalposts eh?
Que?
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Marvellous.
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If they're not onside I trust in the linesman to find them out.
You have to trust something in this world.
eh?
One of the posts above mine (possibly the one immediately before, I really couldnt say) stated that someone was "on side". I think they were referring to business matters. He/she has now edited (corrected?) the post, so its an obsolete joke.
I am gutted. I gave 110% out there.
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If they're not onside I trust in the linesman to find them out.
You have to trust something in this world.
eh?
One of the posts above mine (possibly the one immediately before, I really couldnt say) stated that someone was "on side". I think they were referring to business matters. He/she has now edited (corrected?) the post, so its an obsolete joke.
I am gutted. I gave 110% out there.
I dun grate, you dun grate, the boy [insert name of choice. "Lineker" in the original"] dun grate.
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I dun grate, you dun grate, the boy [insert name of choice. "Lineker" in the original"] dun grate.
Ah ,declension time-once a teacher , always a teacher!!! ;)
Yup, you would have thought that MUFC would have let LVG have 24 hours of celebration with the team after winning the FA Cup.
Still, if they pay up the last year of his contract in compensation, that will help to soothe the pain.
Elsewhere, Lerner has offloaded Villa to Chinese multibillionaire , who has promised to use the team's academy to develop Chinese talent for their national team. That will go down well in Brum then.
Despite Villa being the worst team ever in the Premier League, Lerner almost recouped the £62 million that he paid for them in 2006.
Bradford City has been taken over by a couple of German businessmen. No doubt the push for the Premiership starts soon.
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Yup, you would have thought that MUFC would have let LVG have 24 hours of celebration with the team after winning the FA Cup.
Still, if they pay up the last year of his contract in compensation, that will help to soothe the pain.
But surely the 'leak' was not from MUFC but from JM's side. I can only assume MUFC were not best pleased with what happened as it also detracted from their success and the LVG/JM drama became THE story and not MUFC winning the FA Cup which was a PR disaster for MUFC.
And they appear to have paid his salary in full, including bonus, without much argument.
However, they have been courting JM some time back which was not good for any organisation and questions the integrity of some members of MUFC. Goodness knows what will happen if/when MUFC finish 5th or lower next season!
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Apparently Chelsea own the name "Jose Mourimho" as a trademark, which is holding up the signing on the dotted line business :o
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According to the BBC Man United can chose to not offer certain product branded with Jose Mourinho such as:-
◾United do not use Mourinho's name against the exhaustive list of items that Chelsea have registered - from umbrellas to watch straps, lingerie and talcum powders
Jose Mourinho lingerie anyone?!
Eeew!
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I'm not fan of Van Gaal (nothing against him either) but I reckon he's been treated shoddily
Interesting.
I can only hope I'm treated as shoddily when my employers terminate my employment.
They pay him about £8million a year and will leave with a big sack full of millions for the year left on his contract.
I find it difficult to have sympathy with people on such lucrative contracts, especially when football coaches are just as ruthless with their players.
At this level if you aren't good enough you're history, immediately.
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I read that he would have gone without severance if they had treated him properly.
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I read that he would have gone without severance if they had treated him properly.
Did he put that in writing? Costs him nothing to say it after the event.
I think the handling of staff - particularly managers - is shocking in The Prem, but Lee's got a point; on those kinds of salaries you dont get much sympathy from this sports fan.
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But surely employment law etc extends to all employees and not just those paid a lot of money.
While I don't support wage excesses that we see in a number of areas, those willing to pay for them, along with those that support them, have an option in a free market economy. Some folk think spending £x pounds on Rapha or Assos shorts is bizarre. Individual choice in a free market economy.
Money alters lots of things and the change in that game we call football is but one example.
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According to the BBC Man United can chose to not offer certain product branded with Jose Mourinho such as:-
◾United do not use Mourinho's name against the exhaustive list of items that Chelsea have registered - from umbrellas to watch straps, lingerie and talcum powders
Jose Mourinho lingerie anyone?!
Eeew!
Jose has a fairly substantial female component in his fan base.
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I dun grate, you dun grate, the boy [insert name of choice. "Lineker" in the original"] dun grate.
Ah ,declension time-once a teacher , always a teacher!!! ;)
Yup, you would have thought that MUFC would have let LVG have 24 hours of celebration with the team after winning the FA Cup.
Still, if they pay up the last year of his contract in compensation, that will help to soothe the pain.
Elsewhere, Lerner has offloaded Villa to Chinese multibillionaire , who has promised to use the team's academy to develop Chinese talent for their national team. That will go down well in Brum then.
Despite Villa being the worst team ever in the Premier League, Lerner almost recouped the £62 million that he paid for them in 2006.
Bradford City has been taken over by a couple of German businessmen. No doubt the push for the Premiership starts soon.
Conjugation, boy, Conjugation! Declension for nouns, conjugation for verbs.
Write out 100 times "I must not confuse my nouns with my verbs."
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But surely employment law etc extends to all employees and not just those paid a lot of money.
Correct, which is why they will pay him several millions, for the year left on his contract.
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Mourinho has already lost his job.
http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/mourinho-sacked-from-manchester-united-after-furious-row-over-sir-alexs-parking-space/
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Mourinho has already lost his job.
http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/mourinho-sacked-from-manchester-united-after-furious-row-over-sir-alexs-parking-space/
Yeah? I knew he wouldn't last long.
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Meanwhile...
Sepp Blatter tried to eat football:
Fifa: Sepp Blatter, Jerome Valcke & Markus Kattner 'awarded themselves £55m' (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36445879)
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Meanwhile...
Sepp Blatter tried to eat football:
Fifa: Sepp Blatter, Jerome Valcke & Markus Kattner 'awarded themselves £55m' (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36445879)
ITYM The Ravenous Seppblatter Beast of Zurich.*
* See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_races_and_species_in_The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy#Ravenous_Bugblatter_Beast_of_Traal
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The Overton Window features in football!
It is not just that the wealthiest clubs are winning much more, however. It is that they are winning by much more.
So many clear victories are perhaps the clearest indication of the ‘Overton window’ effect of this: where gradual shifts over time make abnormal situations feel normal to anyone watching on. Thrashings of the scale the wealthiest clubs now dole out – Manchester City beating Watford 8-0 or Bayern Munich beating both Mainz and Werder Bremen 6-1 this season – used to be so much rarer. Even 5-0 thrashings were comparatively uncommon.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/champions-league-superclubs-liverpool-man-utd-barcelona-real-madrid-a9330431.html