Dutch brevets in 2019

[quixoticgeek]

Is that your bike I spy at the same hostel as me?

J

If it's a black/blue Specialized Roubaix, then the likelihood is pretty high. But I'm currently in the city centre for dinner at a very mediocre Indian restaurant.

I'm in the centre hunting for pizza...


J

[Ivo]

Just a quick note for those riding the Amsterdam 400, the startlocation has changed:

Madmen Bicycle Café (ism Vrijburcht)
IJburglaan 444
1086 ZJ Amsterdam

[quixoticgeek]

Just a quick note for those riding the Amsterdam 400, the startlocation has changed:

Madmen Bicycle Café (ism Vrijburcht)
IJburglaan 444
1086 ZJ Amsterdam

Not riding it, but for those that are, Madmen do excellent apple pie...

Good luck!

J

[grams]

Just signed up for the Amsterdam 400, since I was there this weekend anyway. I'll be on a Brompton, so a full full value time is on the cards.

[Ivo]

Just signed up for the Amsterdam 400, since I was there this weekend anyway. I'll be on a Brompton, so a full full value time is on the cards.

There'll be a few newbies among the 100+ participants so they won't believe their eyes

I don't know what's happening this year. 100 participants in a brevet we had for the first time this winter on a 200. And now also on a 400. The turnout is absolutely astonishing.

[quixoticgeek]

I won't be riding it's too close to RatN. Good luck everyone!

J

[quixoticgeek]

Have volunteered to help with the start. See you all at Madmen!

J

[grams]

Just signed up for the Amsterdam 400, since I was there this weekend anyway. I'll be on a Brompton, so a full full value time is on the cards.

I finished with a whole hour to spare. No sleep though - that bike just does not want to go above about 20 km/h. I did get it going a bit faster with the elbows-on-handlebars invisible-aerobars position, but it's not comfortable for very long. Maybe I'll see about fitting aerobars...

Have volunteered to help with the start. See you all at Madmen!

It was good to see you! Sorry it was so brief... I was planning to chat more but was full of pre-ride nerves.

[quixoticgeek]

I finished with a whole hour to spare. No sleep though - that bike just does not want to go above about 20 km/h. I did get it going a bit faster with the elbows-on-handlebars invisible-aerobars position, but it's not comfortable for very long. Maybe I'll see about fitting aerobars...

Glad to hear you finished. I left the finish just after 9pm, so you can't have been far out.

Were you Lantern Rouge?

The problem I find with the Brompton is that the suspension block eats up so much of your energy, I've done 100Km rides on it, but I usually start to think I've lost all sanity at about 30km. Well done for doing a 400k on a Brompton, I'm impressed!

Have volunteered to help with the start. See you all at Madmen!

It was good to see you! Sorry it was so brief... I was planning to chat more but was full of pre-ride nerves.
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Know the feeling.

Welldone on a good ride!

J

[Ivo]

Just signed up for the Amsterdam 400, since I was there this weekend anyway. I'll be on a Brompton, so a full full value time is on the cards.

I finished with a whole hour to spare. No sleep though - that bike just does not want to go above about 20 km/h. I did get it going a bit faster with the elbows-on-handlebars invisible-aerobars position, but it's not comfortable for very long. Maybe I'll see about fitting aerobars...

Have volunteered to help with the start. See you all at Madmen!

It was good to see you! Sorry it was so brief... I was planning to chat more but was full of pre-ride nerves.

News of your progress filtered through as one of the faster riders who had slept startged overtaking smaller groups. I wouldn't consider my Brompton for a brevet though .

[quixoticgeek]

Video of the start:

https://youtu.be/ZU-Vp4NHNGU

J

[slugbait]

First 600 of the season is coming up on May 11. For the Brits who want a flat PBP qualifier, this is as about as flat a 600km gets (until the Overveen 600 on June . Choice between two starts, Merselo in the south of the Netherlands and Groningen in the north of the Netherlands. Both starts are approximately 2 hours by car from the nearest ferry (Zeebrugge/Hook of Holland for Merselo, IJmuiden for Groningen).

[quixoticgeek]

Well that was rather epic. The lumpiest 200 on the Dutch calendar, 2500m of climb. How do you get that much climbing in the Netherlands? By going to Germany, and a tiny corner of Belgium...

I finished with about 4 minutes in hand. I was starting to think I wouldn't make it in time, but the last 20km offered some good descending.

If it's on the calendar again next year, I really recommend it to everyone. Fantastic route. (Headwind for whole ride not Guaranteed on future rides)

Now to go wash the salt out my jersey...

J

[Ivo]

Well that was rather epic. The lumpiest 200 on the Dutch calendar, 2500m of climb. How do you get that much climbing in the Netherlands? By going to Germany, and a tiny corner of Belgium...

I finished with about 4 minutes in hand. I was starting to think I wouldn't make it in time, but the last 20km offered some good descending.

If it's on the calendar again next year, I really recommend it to everyone. Fantastic route. (Headwind for whole ride not Guaranteed on future rides)

Now to go wash the salt out my jersey...

J

My jersey was salted as well. It was hot. Luckily on saturday a lot of shops are open so restocking fluids wasn't an issue.

My photoset: https://www.zonerama.com/ivomiesen/Album/5429311
the route on relive: https://www.relive.cc/view/2510157814

[quixoticgeek]

Well that was rather epic. The lumpiest 200 on the Dutch calendar, 2500m of climb. How do you get that much climbing in the Netherlands? By going to Germany, and a tiny corner of Belgium...

I finished with about 4 minutes in hand. I was starting to think I wouldn't make it in time, but the last 20km offered some good descending.

If it's on the calendar again next year, I really recommend it to everyone. Fantastic route. (Headwind for whole ride not Guaranteed on future rides)

Now to go wash the salt out my jersey...

J

My jersey was salted as well. It was hot. Luckily on saturday a lot of shops are open so restocking fluids wasn't an issue.

My photoset: https://www.zonerama.com/ivomiesen/Album/5429311
the route on relive: https://www.relive.cc/view/2510157814

Homologation is out (with details sent to Recorder), and I got the good news that the route also gets a nice 1.75AAA points!

Win!

J

[slugbait]

It looks like everyone was really taking their time (or Dutch randonneurs are not used to a bit of climbing). Anyway from Ivo's pictures it looks like a great ride, hope it makes the calendar next year so I can join.

[quixoticgeek]

It looks like everyone was really taking their time (or Dutch randonneurs are not used to a bit of climbing). Anyway from Ivo's pictures it looks like a great ride, hope it makes the calendar next year so I can join.

Given I've done Dutch Brevets with under 200m of climbing, in 200km, ~2500m in 200km is definitely a shock to the system. It was also crazy hot. We went from 100+ riders on events earlier in the year, to just 36 on this one (Plus DNFs).

At least one person finished overtime. Lots of rider were complaining about cramp.

It was a beautiful route, and I too hope it's on the calendar again next year.

J

[Ivo]

Well that was rather epic. The lumpiest 200 on the Dutch calendar, 2500m of climb. How do you get that much climbing in the Netherlands? By going to Germany, and a tiny corner of Belgium...

I finished with about 4 minutes in hand. I was starting to think I wouldn't make it in time, but the last 20km offered some good descending.

If it's on the calendar again next year, I really recommend it to everyone. Fantastic route. (Headwind for whole ride not Guaranteed on future rides)

Now to go wash the salt out my jersey...

J

My jersey was salted as well. It was hot. Luckily on saturday a lot of shops are open so restocking fluids wasn't an issue.

My photoset: https://www.zonerama.com/ivomiesen/Album/5429311
the route on relive: https://www.relive.cc/view/2510157814

Homologation is out (with details sent to Recorder), and I got the good news that the route also gets a nice 1.75AAA points!

Win!

J

OK, that should give me also 1.75AAA points, thank's for doing the paperwork.

[quixoticgeek]

Anyone else doing the 300k BRM from Groningen next weekend? aka the non PBP riding Dutch ride?

J

[slugbait]

Well, I'm the organizer so I'll definitely be there at start and finish. And probably will ride along to the first CP.

But don't expect a huge turnout with most of the Dutch and German audaxers being in Paris for some reason.

[quixoticgeek]

Well, I'm the organizer so I'll definitely be there at start and finish. And probably will ride along to the first CP.

But don't expect a huge turnout with most of the Dutch and German audaxers being in Paris for some reason.

Weird, I wonder what's going on in Paris...

I had expected to be too messed up from the TCR, but as that ended prematurely, I can make this ride, which hopefully means I can keep my Dutch RrtY going...

J

[slugbait]

Well, I'm the organizer so I'll definitely be there at start and finish. And probably will ride along to the first CP.

But don't expect a huge turnout with most of the Dutch and German audaxers being in Paris for some reason.

Weird, I wonder what's going on in Paris...

I had expected to be too messed up from the TCR, but as that ended prematurely, I can make this ride, which hopefully means I can keep my Dutch RrtY going...

J

You reply fast, I meant to add this to the original message:

I don't know how good your Dutch is, but on the randonneurs.nl-website I'm warning against staying in the city centre the night before. It's the final night of freshman introduction week which means lots of drunk students on the street.

[quixoticgeek]

You reply fast, I meant to add this to the original message:

I don't know how good your Dutch is, but on the randonneurs.nl-website I'm warning against staying in the city centre the night before. It's the final night of freshman introduction week which means lots of drunk students on the street.

I saw, unfortunately my budget doesn't stretch to any of the places outside the city, so I have a hostel booked that may or may not be noisy. I'll bring ear plugs just in case.

J

[slugbait]

With a bit of luck they won't return to the dormitory until 6am.

[quixoticgeek]

Just looking at the GPX files, there appears to be 2 routes from Bagband until Logabirum.

What is the difference between the two routes?

J