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General Category => Audax => Topic started by: LindaG on 20 April, 2010, 02:18:14 pm

Title: Badges
Post by: LindaG on 20 April, 2010, 02:18:14 pm
Does anyone fork out for these when they've done an event?  We're thinking of doing a ride in the near future, that would qualify me for a bronze 'Grimpeur' AAA badge.  I covet this thing somewhat as it has mountains on it and I won't get many chances of one.

And is it obligatory to buy Carradice objects to pin these to?
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: phil d on 20 April, 2010, 02:27:37 pm
If you would like one, go for it.  I think that the badges are more popular on the 100k audaxes, and AAA events, than they are on the longer rides.  Each year I have a couple of people wanting a badge on completing the Upper Thames 200.  The badges are not expensive.  Sometimes the organiser will have some badges available on the day.  Others (and I'm afraid this includes me) take the orders, and send the badges with the validated cards.  Be careful to distinguish between "badge" and "medal".  I have had requests for badges where I subsequently discovered the requirement was actually for a medal.

I keep thinking I ought to stitch my RRTY badge(s) to my Carradice, but I'm loathe to add stitching holes.  Could glue it on, I suppose.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: hellymedic on 20 April, 2010, 02:40:24 pm
I collected many cloth badges, which I stitched to my AUK jersey.
I don't think I'd be so keen to do this on a more modern garment.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: saturn on 20 April, 2010, 02:53:11 pm
Why yes, I'm really proud of my modest collection of (two) AAA medals but I daren't pin them to anything on the bike because the extra weight might stop me getting up any hills.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: vorsprung on 20 April, 2010, 02:57:43 pm
I will figure out a way of making my ACP Super Randonneur medal into a head tube badge
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Keeff on 20 April, 2010, 03:17:54 pm
We sell around 50 medals and 20 cloth badges a month.

The medals are now undated - for the past few seasons they had a year date on.  The plan is to have a brilliant new design for the 2011-12 season, once stocks of the present design run out.

The Grimpeur medals, especially silver and gold, are actually a very nice medal for the money.  The bronze is a bit gothic.

Cloth badges now belong to a bygone age. The present design, which are circular and perhaps 3 1/2 inches across seem far too big to me.

At the end of last season, we had an order from an AUK for  abt a dozen 200km medals, one for each event he had ridden during the season.  Some people obviously take them very seriously.

Keith
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Martin on 20 April, 2010, 03:47:05 pm
I usually sell about 2 distance medals and 2 Grimpeur medals per event; I always buy one of each beforehand so riders can see what they are getting; I've never sold a cloth patch (and the only "distance" rather than special award one I ever had got cut up in the ambulance)

the dated ones were a good idea but I think most riders are happy to have one of each "design".

the newest ones
(http://www.aukweb.net/meds/m2158s.jpg)

the "Autobahn" ones
(http://www.aukweb.net/meds/m2104s.jpg)

the nicest ones; I have a black 150 one of these off Pam when she was clearing them out; did they make a whole series of black ones? ( I know this is a B/W photo, my 200 one is red)
(http://www.aukweb.net/meds/m2200s.jpg)
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: MSeries on 20 April, 2010, 03:49:54 pm
I have never bought a badge, I am not a trophy person. I have managed to collect some free ones though, or ones that are included in the entry fee. I won two too, the CTC DA Award and Club Award
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: LEE on 20 April, 2010, 03:53:42 pm
I buy one for each different event I complete but I wouldn't want more than one of any type (unless a nicer design comes out maybe)

My SR medal looks like something they'd present to the President of the USA
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 20 April, 2010, 03:59:14 pm

the nicest ones; I have a black 150 one of these off Pam when she was clearing them out; did they make a whole series of black ones? ( I know this is a B/W photo, my 200 one is red)
(http://www.aukweb.net/meds/m2200s.jpg)

The black 'soccerball' series was in 2000, the coloured ones were after that.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: eck on 20 April, 2010, 04:05:18 pm
the nicest ones; I have a black 150 one of these off Pam when she was clearing them out; did they make a whole series of black ones? ( I know this is a B/W photo, my 200 one is red)
(http://www.aukweb.net/meds/m2200s.jpg)
???
Being a bit of a trophy person, I got the set of 200, 300, 400, 500 and 600 of this design in 2000. They were all black and white but getting, appropriately enough, progressively darker as the distance increased. The only coloured one of that design I have is the SR2000.
I'll do a fotie later if you want?
EDIT: cross posted with LittleWheelsandBig
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: LindaG on 20 April, 2010, 04:07:03 pm
Ooh, lovely!  I didn't realise they changed every year. 

Riding a bike AND collecting medals, I'm a child again!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 20 April, 2010, 04:09:31 pm
Ooh, lovely!  I didn't realise they changed every year. 

Riding a bike AND collecting medals, I'm a child again!   ;D ;D

Not every year, usually every PBP (next in August 2011).

The merit medals, badges and suchlike is rather Boy Scout-like.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Martin on 20 April, 2010, 04:09:59 pm
The black 'soccerball' series was in 2000, the coloured ones were after that.

not quite; I have 4 of those type with the chain in the middle; all were old stock off Pam except for the 200. The 100 and the 150 have a coloured (or black) cross whereas the other two (of which the 200 is one) have 6 coloured blades although they are the same moulding. Edit; if you look back at the old medals they varied which bits of the chainset were black and white with eack distance.

and then there are the ride ones; BCM, Dorset Coast, Battle and Back. I put all mine in a frame (not on the wall, I just keep it in a cupboard) which is a good idea as it is full so I don't have to buy any more
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 20 April, 2010, 04:22:30 pm
The black 'soccerball' series was in 2000, the coloured ones were after that.

not quite; I have 4 of those type with the chain in the middle; all were old stock off Pam except for the 200. The 100 and the 150 have a coloured (or black) cross whereas the other two (of which the 200 is one) have 6 coloured blades although they are the same moulding. Edit; if you look back at the old medals they varied which bits of the chainset were black and white with eack distance.


In 2000 all distances were variations on black and white combinations.  For 2001-2003, the sub-200 distances remained black and white, the 200+ medals were combinations of various colours and white.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: jogler on 20 April, 2010, 04:31:45 pm
It's never occurred to me to buy a trophy.Having thought about it I will buy a badge if I ever manage to do a 200km ride.I tend to regard this as a "proper" audax distance & therefore something to aspire to.
Assuming my ride-retirement plan is postponed & I do longer rides I can foresee me buying a badge as appropriate so that I have 1x300,1x600 as "evidence"  for my own benefit.
Ideally I would like to achieve an SR badge & an LEL momento but there are one or two issues/obstacles to resolve/overcome yet.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Paul D on 20 April, 2010, 05:09:06 pm
I once did a Denmead 150k. I thought it such an odd distance for an audax (actually ~160k to give a 100 miles ride so not that odd in the real world) that I bought a badge as I thought I'd never ride one again.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: LadyVet on 20 April, 2010, 05:28:18 pm
Riding a bike AND collecting medals, I'm a child again!   ;D ;D

Me too!  ;) Never had the chance to 'win' / 'earn' things since leaving Brownies (many, many, many years ago  :facepalm: Enjoy.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: damerell on 20 April, 2010, 05:29:50 pm
Does anyone fork out for these when they've done an event? 

Not a badge, but I ticked the Medal box after finishing a 200 on the Brompton. I was pretty thoroughly thaxted at that point, too.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: hellymedic on 20 April, 2010, 05:35:15 pm
I rather like having tangible souvenirs of past rides.
I think there were definite medal colours associated with distances. 400k was green for example.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Weirdy Biker on 20 April, 2010, 05:39:31 pm
For some reason this classic meme (http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/) went through my head on reading the title.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Martin on 20 April, 2010, 05:39:38 pm
I rather like having tangible souvenirs of past rides.
I think there were definite medal colours associated with distances. 400k was green for example.

still are; light blue 100 red 200 yellow 300 green 400 dark blue 600 silver 1000, my 2009 200 one is red and yellow though, not sure if it's a mistake,

maybe it's worth something  ;D
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Weirdy Biker on 20 April, 2010, 06:13:19 pm
Does anyone fork out for these when they've done an event?
I've got a box of medals and badges frm past events.  I won't list them as it goes on for a bit.  I wonder if it's a boy thing, given we used to collect football cards when younger.

Quote
And is it obligatory to buy Carradice objects to pin these to?

The true fashionista makes themselves an audax belt of honour.     For the menfolk, I imagine it looks like this <CLICKY (http://www.tigersports.com/ProductImages/imageaddons7/752a.jpg)>.  For the femalefolk, a rather more decorative concoction, like this <CLICKY (http://ny-image3.etsy.com/il_fullxfull.38162131.jpg)>.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: frankly frankie on 20 April, 2010, 06:46:50 pm
did they make a whole series of black ones?

For year 2000 only.  Pix here (http://www.aukweb.net/handbook/m2000a.htm)   and here. (http://www.aukweb.net/handbook/m2000b.htm)
then in 2001 they went to the usual colourways as here. (http://www.aukweb.net/handbook/m2001b.htm)
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: trio25 on 20 April, 2010, 08:59:56 pm
I am bit confused about badges. Do you have to be a member of Audax UK to get them? If you tick on the back of your Brevet card who do you give the money to?
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Martin on 20 April, 2010, 09:37:26 pm
I am bit confused about badges. Do you have to be a member of Audax UK to get them? If you tick on the back of your Brevet card who do you give the money to?

no anyone can buy them and they are the same price (no £2 surcharge  ;D) you just give the cash to the organiser at the end of the event (or post a cheque if it's a perm) and the badge or medal comes back with your card; you can also just send off for one yourself from (I assume) Neville Holgate

Note to orgs; make sure you put a 47p Large Letter stamp on these when you return them or else they get kidnapped by the Post Office and the poor rider has to go and get them and pay a ransom

did they make a whole series of black ones?

For year 2000 only.  Pix here (http://www.aukweb.net/handbook/m2000a.htm)   and here. (http://www.aukweb.net/handbook/m2000b.htm)
then in 2001 they went to the usual colourways as here. (http://www.aukweb.net/handbook/m2001b.htm)

well I've got a 100 (blue) and a 150 (black) that are like none of those; they are the same moulding but the colour is a cross made of a vertical bar and a horizontal triangley bit

Title: Re: Badges
Post by: arabella on 20 April, 2010, 10:35:15 pm
I've got a set now of the current design, plus an unmatching 500km one and an unmatching LEL one.

Ove pinned them all on a nice piece of black leather part worn school ex-trousers and hung up in an imitation of horse brasses what used to be popular with the farm labourers (ex workers-with-horses?) in my yoof childhood.
I am wondering what else I can add ...
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: should be cycling on 20 April, 2010, 10:46:46 pm
I can't quite believe nobody has beaten me to this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFwprS_L6tg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFwprS_L6tg)

Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Deano on 21 April, 2010, 12:03:41 am
Does anyone fork out for these when they've done an event?  We're thinking of doing a ride in the near future, that would qualify me for a bronze 'Grimpeur' AAA badge.  I covet this thing somewhat as it has mountains on it and I won't get many chances of one.


Which ride?

(I've never bothered about badges, personally)
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: mikewigley on 21 April, 2010, 08:15:43 am
I am wondering what else I can add ...

I'm sure there must be something you could add, but it might involve you riding Round the Year
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: LindaG on 21 April, 2010, 03:07:32 pm
Does anyone fork out for these when they've done an event?  We're thinking of doing a ride in the near future, that would qualify me for a bronze 'Grimpeur' AAA badge.  I covet this thing somewhat as it has mountains on it and I won't get many chances of one.


Which ride?

(I've never bothered about badges, personally)

We're going to Somerset in May and there's a permanent that takes in Cheddar Gorge and Ebbor Gorge.  Called, ISTR, Over the Mendips.  We haven't committed though.  So indecisive!
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: MattH on 21 April, 2010, 08:02:18 pm
My son has collected the medals for his rides (just one per distance and year, not one per ride).
I've got a total of one medal (LEL), and one badge (RRTY).

The problem I have is that whilst I aspire to rides, once I've done them it doesn't seem like such a big deal anymore. So I didn't bother with a silver AAA medal because it wasn't gold, then when I'd ridden a gold AAA ride it was done and I couldn't be bothered. The same with my first SR - I really like the looks of the posh medal, but never got around to claiming it. Perhaps I will one day.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: dougal on 22 April, 2010, 03:01:19 pm
A mention for the rather excellent Grimpeur du Sud which is the most attractive badge of the lot in my humble opinion.  Small enough to be worn as a lapel badge and a (knee) cracking series of rides too.

(hopefully someone adept will be along to post a link shortly)
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: LindaG on 25 April, 2010, 10:24:33 pm
Thank you for posting those pictures of those small, hard-earned objects of desire.  I've really enjoyed looking at them  :)
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: frankly frankie on 26 April, 2010, 01:54:35 pm
Can I add - the 'standard' medal design is changed every 4 years, and the next change is due at the end of 2011.  I'm sure committee would be very appreciative of any design ideas - doesn't have to be a polished job, just a sketch would be good too.  It's always a struggle to find something new and good, and in fact the current design is an older one (1988-91) recycled because we couldn't think of anything better!

As design pointers - bearing in mind the general way these medals are made, that is with raised areas of 'base metal' and filled painted or enamelled areas in between
(http://www.aukweb.net/meds/m2608s.jpg)
the idea with any design is to create lots of flexibity for different colourways using 1, 2 or 3 colours of 'enamel' plus the bare metal, as a palette.
So lots of criss-crossing lines are good -
(http://www.aukweb.net/meds/m2201s.jpg)(http://www.aukweb.net/meds/m2400s.jpg)(http://www.aukweb.net/meds/m2600s.jpg)

I'm not in favour of a competition, but some fresh ideas would be great.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Weirdy Biker on 26 April, 2010, 05:06:58 pm
I'm not in favour of a competition, but some fresh ideas would be great.

Make them square, with a piece of an image on each.  Only by collecting the SR set do you get the full picture.  Maybe something as simple as a picture of "SR".

PS: I think that the range of medals offered by BC are a good, varied selection.  See

http://www.randonneurs.bc.ca/pins/pin_arch.html (http://www.randonneurs.bc.ca/pins/pin_arch.html)
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: L CC on 08 June, 2010, 07:13:04 pm
I got a stylish french one in the post today...
(http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae7/fboab/DSC00094.jpg)

(I really need to get a decent camera!)
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: MSeries on 08 June, 2010, 07:25:33 pm
what's it for boab ? Easter Fleche ?
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: L CC on 08 June, 2010, 07:41:20 pm
what's it for boab ? Easter Fleche ?

Nay, I was doing an English Easter Arrow at, er, Easter.

T'is for the Chateaubourg 300k I did with Tuggo (on 2 wheels) & Innermoss (on 3 wheels) on 8th May.
I've never bothered with English ones but it was a bit of a joke-of-the-day that the brevet card has 'Medaille demandee' on it and so I demanded one at the finish.

I'm going to try and get a full set before they change the design at the end of 2011. It's very shiny...
As I've provided the most rubbish photo in the world, in words I can tell you it says 300k on it, is a wierd asymetric shape and that squiggle on the right is a stylised drawing of a cyclist veloiste.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Bigsybaby on 09 June, 2010, 12:28:43 am
I am collecting all the different badges and Medals for the differant events I do. One day I may make a collage in a picture frame and put on the wall.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: damerell on 09 June, 2010, 01:31:37 am
Not a badge, but I ticked the Medal box after finishing a 200 on the Brompton. I was pretty thoroughly thaxted at that point, too.

I discovered later I'd ticked both boxes (which I meant to, but I remembered it differently). My Brompton's front pannier may have a tasteful accoutrement sewed on soon.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: AikenDrum on 10 June, 2010, 11:41:15 am
I only bother with badges if they're ride-specific or special editions. I've got 'em for the (long defunct) Mad March 200, the BCM, Porkers 400, SR2000, Dartmoor Devil, Ower the Edge 400, RRTY and PBP
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: drossall on 10 June, 2010, 11:03:17 pm
I've bought some, though never done much with them. I think it's probably because the first clubs I joined did the usual "standard medals" for time trials*.

The Stevenage Summertime events have medals with bars. I've got quite a few of those.

* Bronze standard might be 28:00 for ten miles, silver 25:30 and gold 23:00. Your first ride to beat each standard earns a medal presented at the club dinner that autumn/winter.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Martin on 15 June, 2010, 03:24:34 pm
why are Grimpeur medals £1 more than the distance ones?

(only noticed this after taking the £2.50 payment for one and then finding they had gone up on the organiser's
return)

can anyone tell me when the current distance medals are going to be replaced? I was going to order a few now they are undated as they definitely sell better if riders can have the instant gratification of taking it away on the day

I also finally sold my 4 year old cloth 100km display badge (and needed to order another) on Sunday
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 15 June, 2010, 03:38:05 pm
why are Grimpeur medals £1 more than the distance ones?


Different supplier, much smaller volume, different exchange rate when medals paid for.  Probably more than one of those reasons.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Keeff on 15 June, 2010, 03:59:32 pm
A few years ago all medals were £3.50

We then found an alternative supplier for the standard medals, who did not need to charge for the dies used in the manufacturing process.  As a result, standard medals have since been cheaper.

Grimpeur medals are ordered only infrequently, in minimum quantities reflecting the tiny volume of sales.  The current stocks are about 3-4 years old, and still reflect the pricing at the time they were purchsed.  Incidentally, stocks are now running low of all 3 flavours and we have just started the ordering procedure for a further supply.  When they arrive in a few months time, they may be a different price.


The process of designing and ordering a new standard medal set for the post PBP season will start in the next few months
Keith
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Martin on 15 June, 2010, 05:13:52 pm
Thanks Keef; while you're at it you ought to increase the fee for medals anyway to reflect the higher postage as they all require a Large Letter stamp which are 51p 2nd class IIRC
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Martin on 02 May, 2011, 01:37:05 pm
I know you get an ACP BRM SR medal at the start of PBP (without Mayoral chain) but does anyone know if you can buy one otherwise? would be a nice momento for this year
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Feline on 02 May, 2011, 01:41:01 pm
I know you get an ACP BRM SR medal at the start of PBP (without Mayoral chain) but does anyone know if you can buy one otherwise? would be a nice momento for this year

We do ? Yikes, how much does it weigh? I might have to carry it on the ride  :o
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Martin on 02 May, 2011, 01:58:45 pm
I know you get an ACP BRM SR medal at the start of PBP (without Mayoral chain) but does anyone know if you can buy one otherwise? would be a nice momento for this year

We do ? Yikes, how much does it weigh? I might have to carry it on the ride  :o

it's in with your registration pack and brevet card at the start; it's a little bigger than a standard AUK one. Mine has my quallies engraved on the back. Not sure if they are different to the 2007 ones. You can save a bit of weight by binning the route sheet, you won't need it  ;)
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Lycra Man on 02 May, 2011, 08:29:43 pm
I'm collecting one medal for each distance I achieve. So far I have a 200, 300 and now a 400 on it's way. They are going on the side pockets of my Carradice.  8)

Assuming I can manage a 600, is there a medal for a SR series?

Lycra Man
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: arabella on 02 May, 2011, 10:45:15 pm
Yup.  You can even get one in a presentation box iirc

I can't actually find the badges/medals pages on the revamped AUK website though, otherwise I'd point you at them - there used to be merrie pictures of each badge/medal and what it was for, including any old style ones in stock (eg for 500km).
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Martin on 02 May, 2011, 10:49:56 pm
Assuming I can manage a 600, is there a medal for a SR series?

yes 3 different types; a presentation one inna box; a regular one and a circa 1904 one (plus whatever you can get from ACP without crossing the channel)

arabella; as a collector of bling I'm also dismayed at the lack of badges and medals on the new AUK website  :(
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: STMS on 11 October, 2011, 11:16:15 pm
where do they stop 100,200,300,400,600,1000, 1200? 1400?
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: border-rider on 11 October, 2011, 11:17:45 pm
Brevet 100,000 I think.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: STMS on 11 October, 2011, 11:20:26 pm
where do they stop 100,200,300,400,600,1000, 1200? 1400?

I meant cloth ones? Never say what i mean  ::-)
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: border-rider on 11 October, 2011, 11:23:51 pm
I have a couple of cloth Brevet 25,000 badges. I dunno if they ever made one for Brevet 100,000 as only one person has ever got it (I think)
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Martin on 11 October, 2011, 11:34:31 pm
does the R5000 badge just appear or do you need to buy it?
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: mcshroom on 12 October, 2011, 12:08:43 am
I forgot to tick the box when I did my first 200. Is it possible to order the cloth badges directly? I've had a good ratch round the site but can't find anything on it.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Cyklisten on 12 October, 2011, 12:18:39 am
Badges etc used to be dealt with by Neville Holgate - don't know if this is still the case and yes, Martin, you'll have to send for one. I've had 2 R5000s (one more pending) and nothing has appeared automatically and I think it's a cloth badge only.

I do have a nice GOLD badge, though  :smug: 
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Manotea on 12 October, 2011, 01:15:50 am
Does anyone fork out for these when they've done an event?  We're thinking of doing a ride in the near future, that would qualify me for a bronze 'Grimpeur' AAA badge.  I covet this thing somewhat as it has mountains on it and I won't get many chances of one.

And is it obligatory to buy Carradice objects to pin these to?

The gold grimpeur medal is very pretty but has a similar density to a neutron star. It is the last thing I would want pinned to my bike climbing a hill.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Philip Whiteman on 12 October, 2011, 09:22:39 am
Rather curiously, I note on that only' medals' are shown on the AUK Results Sheet template.  I am not quite sure what organisers are supposed to do about badges in that instance.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Oaky on 12 October, 2011, 12:57:19 pm
Am I correct in thinking that in AUK terminology, "badges" == cloth badges and "medals" == the metal thingies (with a clasp on the back)?

I have one of the latter type from the Asparagus and Strawberries and want to order the right things to match that for some other rides.
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Martin on 12 October, 2011, 01:21:58 pm
Am I correct in thinking that in AUK terminology, "badges" == cloth badges and "medals" == the metal thingies (with a clasp on the back)?

Yes
Title: Re: Badges
Post by: Phixie on 12 October, 2011, 09:13:31 pm
I forgot to tick the box when I did my first 200. Is it possible to order the cloth badges directly? I've had a good ratch round the site but can't find anything on it.

Although Keith Harrison is listed as supplier,  Nev Holgate should also have some available.  See p46/7 of the Handbook (also available on-line if paper copy is unavailable.)

Cheques should be payable to Audax UK in either case.

Regards
RP