Yet Another Cycling Forum
Off Topic => The Pub => Arts and Entertainment => Topic started by: rogerzilla on 28 March, 2022, 07:20:58 am
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Sky will have it as £15 PPV next year!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60897004
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They'd have to pay me much more than that to make me watch it.
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Kudos to the Graun: they left all the words in.
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Is there any rational person listening to the "LEAD STORY" today that isn't thinking "Kayfabe"? Except of course for 100% of the talking heads and 95% of the audience. Asking for a friend.
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I read a news article about it. My feelings? Chris rock is a bit of a dick and I can't really blame Will Smith for slapping him
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^ this.
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Yup, it's still ok in 2022 for one man to hit another man to defend a woman's honour.
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Can't help thinking there's going to be some hard talk in the Smith household; he is visibly laughing off Rock's jibe while she has a face like thunder. Presumably off-camera there is a moment where he turns to her and sees that she ain't amused...
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"Keep my wife's name out of your fucking mouth"
(https://i.ibb.co/612pnQj/FO7-Rk-Hv-Xo-AA5-Nt-T-jpeg.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RB1Mv8R)
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;D
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"Keep my wife's name out of your fucking mouth"
(https://i.ibb.co/612pnQj/FO7-Rk-Hv-Xo-AA5-Nt-T-jpeg.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RB1Mv8R)
Is he doing that thigh-rubbing thing pioneered by Vic Reeves on Shooting Stars?
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I read a news article about it. My feelings? Chris rock is a bit of a dick and I can't really blame Will Smith for slapping him
Yes.
MrsT says to me "I hope you would". What, thready-bicepsed decrepit me? Er yes, of course, my dear.
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The splendid irony of people supporting a man hitting someone because they said something they didn't like – well, isn't that a rather literal take on domestic violence.
In other news, had it happened under the Met's jurisdiction, they'd be trying to identify any of the attendees.
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If you’re going to use a paid for, very public platform to insult someone’s medical condition you can fuck off.
If you’re going to get physical, then a single slap is pretty restrained. If you can restrain yourself to that degree then keep at it, and stick to words. Or encourage Mrs Smith to have him on her own account.
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It's possible that Rock was unaware of JP Smith' s medical condition (was it generally known? I don't follow that stuff). If he was, he was certainly asking for trouble but that doesn't excuse W Smith's reaction - maybe he really thinks he is Ali? As for his spawn's pathetic "That's how we do things" - a massive step forward for progress against "entitlement - not.
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If you’re going to use a paid for, very public platform to insult someone’s medical condition you can fuck off.
If you’re going to get physical, then a single slap is pretty restrained. If you can restrain yourself to that degree then keep at it, and stick to words. Or encourage Mrs Smith to have him on her own account.
That's cool though, it's fine to give the wife or girlfriend a slap, after all, it's not like you're hitting her properly. Besides, she made you do it.
Honestly, sometimes it's like I get out of the wrong side of the bed and step into an alternate universe.
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That's two of us, then Ian. I don't know which I find more depressing: that a self-entitled celebrity can lose control and protect his manhood (because that's what it was about, really) with gratuitous violence or that people who are presumably at at least one remove from the action and presumably "in control" can think it's ok.
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The fact that it was two (formerly) successful black men fighting is a little bonus for the racists. "Look, I told you they were only savages in tuxedos". Conveniently ignoring the fact that hundreds of white men fight and glass each other every Friday night up and down Britain, and probably over lesser slights than Rock's.
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If you’re going to use a paid for, very public platform to insult someone’s medical condition you can fuck off.
If you’re going to get physical, then a single slap is pretty restrained. If you can restrain yourself to that degree then keep at it, and stick to words. Or encourage Mrs Smith to have him on her own account.
That's cool though, it's fine to give the wife or girlfriend a slap, after all, it's not like you're hitting her properly. Besides, she made you do it.
Honestly, sometimes it's like I get out of the wrong side of the bed and step into an alternate universe.
I thought I was mostly agreeing with you. My point being that if you can hold back a bit, you can hold back.
Maybe I needed a smiley on goading his wife to give Rock a kicking. That's more of a Croydon on Friday night vibe.
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The fact that it was two (formerly) successful black men fighting is a little bonus for the racists. "Look, I told you they were only savages in tuxedos". Conveniently ignoring the fact that hundreds of white men fight and glass each other every Friday night up and down Britain, and probably over lesser slights than Rock's.
Yep - and they are wrong, too! (The brawlers, I mean - I agree about the "field day for racists" stuff.)
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Sorry, I misinterpreted.
I can't say I follow the Oscars, but the big manhug between Samuel J. and Denzil was a lot nicer.
A former boss of mine had alopecia, she used to whip off her wig in restaurants when the server wasn't looking so they'd turn around do a WTF. She once claimed in a Korean bbq place that she'd burned her hair off. She didn't mind if people thought she had cancer if it got her a discount. People can and do laugh about this shit.
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I don't know when roasting the guests at these types of events became a thing, but maybe they should just go a back to the old days when the host would just tell a few shite jokes and the recipients of the awards made tits of themselves with their acceptance speaches, rather than by twating the host...
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I'm not sure that a sobbing Gwyneth Paltrow was preferable to a spot of light pagga.
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Roger, I wanna thank you for that perceptive remark - and to all the rest of you who've commented on here, I don't know where I'd be without you, or where any of us would be without our fabulous industry, and our parents (God, they're so beautiful - and so is God) nand can I just add ...
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I don't know when roasting the guests at these types of events became a thing, but maybe they should just go a back to the old days when the host would just tell a few shite jokes and the recipients of the awards made tits of themselves with their acceptance speaches, rather than by twating the host...
It was that self-important cunt from The Office.
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Was it just me that thought that it looked like acting then?
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Was it just me that thought that it looked like acting then?
That pillock in The Office may have looked like acting, but it wasn’t.
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Was it just me that thought that it looked like acting then?
I've just watched the clip a few times in slow motion, and am inclined to agree. Got to do something to get in the news...
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You don't drop the F-bomb on live TV (OK, they'd cut the feed by then) as a career-boosting move.
It seems Will Smith laughed initially, J P Smith strongly expressed her disapproval and may have suggested getting up there and doing something about it. At which point testosterone took over.
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Was it just me that thought that it looked like acting then?
I've just watched the clip a few times in slow motion, and am inclined to agree. Got to do something to get in the news...
And distract everyone from Putin...
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I did a reverse image search on google and found a lot of evidence that both parties involved have appeared as actors in many similar scenes previously. Do the research, people. #CrisisActors
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I did a reverse image search on google and found a lot of evidence that both parties involved have appeared as actors in many similar scenes previously. Do the research, people. #CrisisActors
;D
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Black women have some good takes on this, basically there's nuance and layers here involving racism, ableism and sexism.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/29/opinion/culture/will-smith-oscars-roxane-gay.html
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I'm not entirely sure if that article is a parody or not. Every day that becomes a little bit more difficult to tell. It's a sort of woke-word bingo that I suspect is either written by right-wing agitators or some kind of bot.
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Google Roxanne Gay. She's a well respected black female commentator.
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Yeah, but that's how they do. Construct a fake identity, build a backstory. I doubt she's real.
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Have we had this?:-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-60910879 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-60910879)
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Have we had this?:-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-60910879 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-60910879)
Maybe I'm being a bit boring, but I think if the "comedy" consists of insulting people in the audience until one of them loses it and then having to employ security staff to restrain the insulted one, then you maybe ought to reconsider the entertainment.
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The tradition of a thorough roasting goes back to olden times. It's not exactly a new thing (see also every best man speech ever).
Have some people ever left the house, been to a wedding, read a book, been to a comedy gig? From a brief glance at social media, I think that's all some people do.
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It's not exactly a new thing (see also every best man speech ever).
Um, not really true. Gentle ribbing, sure. Outright piss-taking of medical condition, clearly not.
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You evidently haven't been to the weddings I've been to.
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It's not exactly a new thing (see also every best man speech ever).
Um, not really true. Gentle ribbing, sure. Outright piss-taking of medical condition, clearly not.
I've mentioned earlier that I didn't know whether Chris Rock was aware of the medical condition or not. I've not seen anything since that suggests che did, or he didn't. If he didn't then he was simply making a reference to Demi Moore in some earlier, pretty insignificant film, whose name I forget. Does anyone know?
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Chris Rock made a documentary about black women and their hair... Therefore REALLY ought to have known better than to mock a black woman for her hair (to get at her husband). Apparently Chris Rock has form for nasty comments about Smith and his wife - which may be in part cos they live our weird-life stuff in the public eye...
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Yeah, but that's how they do. Construct a fake identity, build a backstory. I doubt she's real.
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I'd heard of Roxanne Gay a long time before this kerfuffle. I don't quite understand you or if you're kinda taking the piss a bit.
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It's not exactly a new thing (see also every best man speech ever).
Um, not really true. Gentle ribbing, sure. Outright piss-taking of medical condition, clearly not.
I've mentioned earlier that I didn't know whether Chris Rock was aware of the medical condition or not. I've not seen anything since that suggests che did, or he didn't. If he didn't then he was simply making a reference to Demi Moore in some earlier, pretty insignificant film, whose name I forget. Does anyone know?
Who cares. Bald people are inherently funny. If they don't like it, that's why God invented wigs. No one laughs at people in wigs, not at all. Anyone who claims otherwise is fabricating the evidence.
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Chris Rock made a documentary about black women and their hair... Therefore REALLY ought to have known better than to mock a black woman for her hair (to get at her husband). Apparently Chris Rock has form for nasty comments about Smith and his wife - which may be in part cos they live our weird-life stuff in the public eye...
I didn't know that.
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Who cares. Bald people are inherently funny. If they don't like it, that's why God invented wigs. No one laughs at people in wigs, not at all. Anyone who claims otherwise is fabricating the evidence.
You are taking the Michael with this, Ian.
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It's not exactly a new thing (see also every best man speech ever).
Um, not really true. Gentle ribbing, sure. Outright piss-taking of medical condition, clearly not.
I've mentioned earlier that I didn't know whether Chris Rock was aware of the medical condition or not. I've not seen anything since that suggests che did, or he didn't. If he didn't then he was simply making a reference to Demi Moore in some earlier, pretty insignificant film, whose name I forget. Does anyone know?
Who cares. Bald people are inherently funny. If they don't like it, that's why God invented wigs. No one laughs at people in wigs, not at all. Anyone who claims otherwise is fabricanting the evidence.
FTFY
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Yeah...err...oh never mind
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I was trying not to be too obvious, my art is subtly.
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That’s easy for a short bloke.
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I look mighty fine in heels though.
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So, Mr Smith is out for 10 years.
I don't honestly give much of a shit about the celeb scene, and I don't condone violence (even though it looked staged).
But if Chris Rock had made a joke about Bruce Willis having dementia (or whatever the cause of his aphasia turns out to be), would that have been acceptable?
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It would have been fine. There's been shit before, at awards ceremonies. One of the biggest shits was Ricky Gervais.
Just don't hit people, it's bad. M'kay.
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The whole slap thing was staged. Look at Smith's hand; no space between his fingers. If you're
going to slap someone there'll be a gap between your fingers. If someone is going to hit/slap you
in the face, you don't just stand there with your arms behind your back. A natural instinct is to
protect your head.
Rock made jibes at Smith's wife. Smith comes up on stage to confront him. If the whole stunt was
indeed genuine, then surely Rock would have been expecting something untoward. :hand:
* I think Chris Rock is a funny stand-up comedian. :thumbsup: