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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #75 on: 22 February, 2018, 05:39:13 pm »
Hello everybody :)
I' m planning to do this one during a short holiday with my family.

saturday   09-06-2018 400km   20:00         Amsterdam 

Someone has information about it? For example start place and approx route?

The basic information is known: https://randonneurs.nl/event/brm-400-amsterdam-nl-de-zuiderzeeballade/
On this page you'll find regular updates
This is a new route so normally seen Ernst should still be plotting it.
The name does betray something, the Zuiderzee is the name of the sea which was where now the IJsselmeer is. So you can expect the route to go around the IJsselmeer but evade the 'new land' of the Flevopolder. It's a Dutch classic, a loop via the old land.
Thanks Ivo, I had a reply from Joost from randonneurs.nl that said the same thing.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #76 on: 02 March, 2018, 09:04:39 pm »
I'm going to have to scratch from the Bunnik 300 next weekend.  I've given up trying to get back to the UK this weekend, so staying next weekend would make 3 weeks away which is a bit unfair on Mrs CET.  Hopefully the dusting of snow that's arrived in The Hague tonight will clear first thing tomorrow and I can put together a couple of epic rides this weekend to make up for it.
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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #77 on: 03 March, 2018, 12:33:01 am »
I'm going to have to scratch from the Bunnik 300 next weekend.  I've given up trying to get back to the UK this weekend, so staying next weekend would make 3 weeks away which is a bit unfair on Mrs CET.  Hopefully the dusting of snow that's arrived in The Hague tonight will clear first thing tomorrow and I can put together a couple of epic rides this weekend to make up for it.

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #78 on: 19 March, 2018, 06:55:55 pm »

Anyone planning the 200 from Maastricht this weekend? I'm hoping that I can finish this one, ideally with full feeling in my feet...

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #79 on: 19 March, 2018, 11:05:15 pm »

Anyone planning the 200 from Maastricht this weekend? I'm hoping that I can finish this one, ideally with full feeling in my feet...

J

I routechecked it on friday. There'll be one small detour due to road works.
On saturday I have to work so I'll only be at the finish.
For an impression of the route, the relive of friday: https://www.relive.cc/view/1456524086

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #80 on: 19 March, 2018, 11:10:23 pm »

Anyone planning the 200 from Maastricht this weekend? I'm hoping that I can finish this one, ideally with full feeling in my feet...

J

I routechecked it on friday. There'll be one small detour due to road works.
On saturday I have to work so I'll only be at the finish.
For an impression of the route, the relive of friday: https://www.relive.cc/view/1456524086

Ah, see you at the finish!

Looks like an interesting ride. How do you think the route compares to the coal field tour from a month ago? Is it hillier? What's the second control? the route sheet says "Vrije/Info Control"

I'm going to arrive in Maastricht on Friday and do a short ride of hill training (to Valkenburg and back)

See you in Maastricht.

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #81 on: 20 March, 2018, 10:39:16 am »
Vrije controle/info controle means that you can go anywhere for your stamp. If nothing is open or you want to continue fast, you answer a control question which is on your brevetcard.
The usual control in Drieslinter is closed for their annual holidays.

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #82 on: 20 March, 2018, 10:43:29 am »
Vrije controle/info controle means that you can go anywhere for your stamp. If nothing is open or you want to continue fast, you answer a control question which is on your brevetcard.
The usual control in Drieslinter is closed for their annual holidays.

Ah cool. I wonder what the Dutch is for "Do you have something I can stamp my Brevett card with please?"...

I take it a receipt from the spa is acceptable as well?

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #83 on: 20 March, 2018, 10:26:51 pm »
Vrije controle/info controle means that you can go anywhere for your stamp. If nothing is open or you want to continue fast, you answer a control question which is on your brevetcard.
The usual control in Drieslinter is closed for their annual holidays.

Ah cool. I wonder what the Dutch is for "Do you have something I can stamp my Brevett card with please?"...

I take it a receipt from the spa is acceptable as well?

J

Namur is in the French speaking part of Belgium, Drieslinter in the Dutch speaking part.
A rubber stamp is a cachet/tampon in French and stempel in Dutch

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #84 on: 18 April, 2018, 11:51:32 pm »

Anyone doing the 300 from Maastricht on Saturday?

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #85 on: 19 April, 2018, 09:35:02 am »
I'll be there, as a rider this time

Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #86 on: 05 July, 2018, 08:45:32 pm »
There's another Maasland event coming up, starting conveniently close to the Hoek van Holland ferry at 9am. It's a 300 this time held on the 21st of july. Entries and info on:
https://www.randonneurs.nl/event/brm-300-maasland-nl-de-duinen/

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #87 on: 05 July, 2018, 09:35:43 pm »
There's another Maasland event coming up, starting conveniently close to the Hoek van Holland ferry at 9am. It's a 300 this time held on the 21st of july. Entries and info on:
https://www.randonneurs.nl/event/brm-300-maasland-nl-de-duinen/

Am hoping to be there.

If anyone knows a good religion, pray for decent winds! The headwinds have been sucking a lot of late.

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #88 on: 05 July, 2018, 11:49:54 pm »
I'm seriously weighing up fitting tri bars for Dutch headwind riding, any strong opinions?

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #89 on: 05 July, 2018, 11:51:13 pm »
I'm seriously weighing up fitting tri bars for Dutch headwind riding, any strong opinions?

Apparently it gets savage! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j_tb5_v31Y

Tri bars are second only to an e-bike to draft when it comes to Dutch headwinds. I have them permanently fitted to my bike. Even using them to commute through the centre of Amsterdam.

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #90 on: 05 July, 2018, 11:59:32 pm »
... Right, another important purchase from Planet X to make then...!
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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #91 on: 06 July, 2018, 12:03:35 am »
... Right, another important purchase from Planet X to make then...!

Just make sure you fit them properly, they fit you, and they are in the right position. I needed quite a bit of physio after 17 hours on the tri bars with them in the wrong position.

Sam Vimes applies.

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #92 on: 06 July, 2018, 11:18:31 am »
Anyone else got hot tips on Dutch 300s? Especially about riding at night in the wind.
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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #93 on: 06 July, 2018, 11:21:10 am »
Anyone else got hot tips on Dutch 300s? Especially about riding at night in the wind.

Keep your mouth shut[1], keep the pedals turning, and keep your bike rubber side down.

Oh, and expect most places to shut by 9pm.

J

[1]A fly hitting the back of my throat, causing me to lose my Lunch ruined my last attempt at a Dutch 300...
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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #94 on: 06 July, 2018, 02:13:33 pm »
Anyone else got hot tips on Dutch 300s? Especially about riding at night in the wind.

It's mainly a matter of finding the right gear, the right cadence and the right frame of mind (to deal with the monotony). As an experienced wind rider (35 years of cycling into headwinds), it doesn't bother me that much anymore, but if you're a novice, just find a nice group to ride with. Anyway: also planning to ride this one, the last bit through the dunes at dusk should be amazing.

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #95 on: 06 July, 2018, 03:48:15 pm »
It's the Mcdonald's control at 180km that I'm looking forward to most! ;D

One more question - I know you have to have a bell in Holland. Is it acceptable to have one on your saddle rails? My handlebars are very busy with computers, lights, tri bars and bags so thought this might be a good way of obeying the law without cluttering my cockpit with even more junk.
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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #96 on: 06 July, 2018, 05:41:10 pm »
It's the Mcdonald's control at 180km that I'm looking forward to most! ;D

One more question - I know you have to have a bell in Holland. Is it acceptable to have one on your saddle rails? My handlebars are very busy with computers, lights, tri bars and bags so thought this might be a good way of obeying the law without cluttering my cockpit with even more junk.

I don't know for sure, but chances of being nicked for it are very low as it is, and you can probably claim ignorant tourist.

I'll be doing the ride, I'll be on a red Genesis bike. I'll probably be the lantern rouge (I usually am), but if people are happy doing a steady 20kph when moving, I'd be very appreciative of the company.

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #97 on: 06 July, 2018, 05:59:59 pm »
There is a ferry at the 207km mark. It runs every 20 minutes, at 00, 20, and 40 past the hour. The last one is at midnight (which is fine, we should pass by a couple of hours earlier.
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Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #98 on: 06 July, 2018, 06:16:04 pm »
One more question - I know you have to have a bell in Holland. Is it acceptable to have one on your saddle rails? My handlebars are very busy with computers, lights, tri bars and bags so thought this might be a good way of obeying the law without cluttering my cockpit with even more junk.
The law says that it has to be there, and that it has to work. That is it. Laws can only prescribe so much. You could be asked to ring it, though, when demanded by a police officer; as that demand is also mentioned in the Regeling voertuigen of the Wegenverkeerswet.




Re: Dutch brevets in 2018
« Reply #99 on: 06 July, 2018, 10:40:53 pm »
In many respects Dutch laws only stipulates that it has to work and at the maximum a certain output (a bell must be audible at a certain distance). How you achieve this is up to you.