Author Topic: The Pompino Thread  (Read 77916 times)

jogler

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Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #25 on: 15 March, 2011, 10:07:32 pm »
I'm shocked. The Pomp is the only fixer in my garage that doesn't have toe overlap. Oh dear...

My Langster has no toe overlap

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #26 on: 15 March, 2011, 10:12:24 pm »
All my bikes have toe overlap as I have big feet but am small. But the Pompino overlap is really ridiculous!

Chris S

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #27 on: 15 March, 2011, 10:15:53 pm »
All my bikes have toe overlap as I have big feet but am small. But the Pompino overlap is really ridiculous!

What size did you buy?

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #28 on: 15 March, 2011, 10:34:23 pm »
Size small.

Here are some pics. I rode it for about 100 yards and almost came off when my foot hit the wheel as I was turning. I have size eight feet, but I think even someone with smaller feet would have trouble. 








Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #29 on: 15 March, 2011, 10:46:59 pm »
Wow - that's quite extreme! Switch to really short cranks?!

border-rider

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #30 on: 15 March, 2011, 10:54:05 pm »
That's silly.  With a fatter tyre & guards the pedal wouldn't clear, let alone your foot

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #31 on: 15 March, 2011, 11:17:40 pm »
Cranks are 165. Yes, it's totally silly. Very disappointing. I do hope there aren't many of these bikes out there in this state.

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #32 on: 15 March, 2011, 11:22:04 pm »
 :o That's really shocking. What a disappointment :(

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #33 on: 15 March, 2011, 11:23:50 pm »
That really is shockingly bad.

Small bikes can't just be the same as big bikes but with shorter tubing - they have to design it to work.

I have had several bikes with toeclip overlap, but that is truly ridiculous. Quite quite dangerous on a fixed, too.
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Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #34 on: 15 March, 2011, 11:26:22 pm »
Cripes!  Good excuse for not getting one of those then...   ???

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #35 on: 15 March, 2011, 11:28:13 pm »
Saw this very bike earlier. The geometry is all wrong in this frame size. The wheelbase is too short: no room for a mudguard between the rear wheel and the seat stay (and there is barely room for a guard under the brake bridge); and too short in the main triangle too as seen above. A bit of toe overlap is fine, but this is more than a bit - the potential for intersection between the arc of the front of the foot and the front wheel is too great.

I agree that it ought to go back as 1) unrideable, certainly as a fixed and 2) unusable if you want a proper rear guard with reasonable tyre size. It looks like a frame that would work with 26" wheels, not 700c.

I also thought the choice of semi-aero rims made it a very odd looking bike.

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #36 on: 15 March, 2011, 11:28:44 pm »
That's odd. I've got 170s and guards on mine and the overlap is minimal. It is a medium though.

LindaG

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #37 on: 16 March, 2011, 07:54:17 am »
That is odd.  These frames must be non-standard sizes, because my Pomp was a small, with 165mm cranks, and I have size 7.5 feet.  Yes, there was toe overlap.  Not as bad as yours though Peli.

When I took the bike to LBS for crash damage assessment, they told me the alignment was often wide of the mark - some of their staff have Pompinos.  I wonder if there is something going on at the factory.

border-rider

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #38 on: 16 March, 2011, 08:03:55 am »
I've seen small Pompinos before and they didn't have that amount of overlap.

As LG says, there must be a problem with the frame build

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Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #39 on: 16 March, 2011, 08:10:01 am »
Yeah, Julian's Pomp (a 120mm, but an earlier one) has a fair bit of overlap, but nothing that bad.

You can ride a fixed with overlap perfectly safely, even through thick traffic - but it's not something I'd choose, given the opportunity.  On One's been making 'em long enough that they should have minimized it as much as possible by now.
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Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #40 on: 16 March, 2011, 09:14:14 am »
Thanks for the comments, everyone.

As I say, I have overlap on all my bikes, but nothing this extreme. I have overlap on my Surly Steamroller and cope with that OK, but this just felt incredibly dangerous when I rode it round the carpark. A slight turn of the handlebars and I was kicking the tyre.

Let's see what On-One say in response to my email.

clarion

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Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #41 on: 16 March, 2011, 09:22:02 am »
That's got to go back.  Geometry is scarily wrong.

What a disappointment for you when you're having such a difficult time with bikes. :(
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Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #42 on: 16 March, 2011, 05:09:24 pm »
Bad luck Peli.
My Pompino has toe overlap but I am used to it.
As you say on yours it is too extreme.

Tail End Charlie

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #43 on: 16 March, 2011, 09:02:01 pm »
My Pomp doesn't have overlap, it's an XL though, but I do have size 12 feet.

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #44 on: 17 March, 2011, 09:20:33 am »
I have a large, it has a little toe overlap but I have size 11 feet.

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #45 on: 20 March, 2011, 09:17:18 pm »
On-One have agreed to take the bike back (I've not confirmed with them yet about who pays for the return delivery), but have not commented at all on the geometry of the frame.

Nightfly

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #46 on: 21 March, 2011, 02:34:18 pm »
Could you not mount the cleat on the sole of your shoe further forward thus reducing overlap?

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #47 on: 21 March, 2011, 02:44:24 pm »
No, that wouldn't work. I'd get very sore knees, it would be a bodge rather than getting a properly-fitting bike, and it wouldn't make that much difference as the overlap is so extreme, etc etc.

As Pluck says upthread, the geometry is very odd indeed and even if the toe overlap weren't so bad, I'd think twice about keeping the bike. There's no room for mudguards at all, and the whole frame just looks squashed and ill-thought-through. 

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Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #48 on: 21 March, 2011, 03:34:20 pm »
Glad they are taking it back. It is described as being able to take mudguards etc. So in that respect alone, it should go back.

I was considering treating the other half to one but probably need to look elsewhere. Though she fits on my medium apart from the stem being a bit too long (it's a bit long for me to be honest as the pompino has a very long top tube it seems).  But I reckon she'd be happier on a small.

So I guess you have to start again with trying to find something that fits better? How frustrating.
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Ooooh. That sounds like a daft idea.  I am in!

Tail End Charlie

Re: The Pompino Thread
« Reply #49 on: 10 April, 2011, 09:48:11 pm »
The bottom bracket on my Pompino (external bearing) has developed some play. Bit hacked off about that. I've only had it 6 months.