Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => Audax => Topic started by: GruB on 27 June, 2008, 05:46:55 am
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To assist with motivation and record keeping, I have created a Round The Year Randonneurs Log (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4705.0). My thoughts are that this can be used in a very similar way to the Weight Reports Thread.
The log is only to log your rides and you go in and update your original post each time.
Some may want to go back to the start of the year - I see no problem with that.
Please keep all discussions here though.
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I hadn't thought of doing it, but now I've looked at the results it might be a goer. I just need to ride a 200 next month (maybe the China Run) and I should be ok for other events until October. Hmmm...
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Given that I DNF'd my June ride...
If I started a DIY200 at 7pm on the 30th June, and finished at 4am on the 1st July, would that count as a June ride? (I think it does as I seem to remember Mr O'Tea starting a perm at close to midnight in order to keep an RRTY running).
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Two SRs down, and RRTY is still the toughest thing I've done in the last two years. Thank **** I took month 14 off in search of some sanity (and not having to ride a 200 in December).
Good luck guys
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Given that I DNF'd my June ride...
If I started a DIY200 at 7pm on the 30th June, and finished at 4am on the 1st July, would that count as a June ride? (I think it does as I seem to remember Mr O'Tea starting a perm at close to midnight in order to keep an RRTY running).
There was a 'frequenty asked questions' bit in Arrivee a few issues back. I think that the answer to the above was that it could be accepted for either month (but not both!).
I got mt RTY last year. I started in Feb but didn't really think about it until November when I had done all my other Audax objectives. It's the same this year if the weathers ok and I feel ok I'll do the rides over the winter but it won't be a disaster if I don't. Just enjoy the rides then when you've racked up 9 or 10 months you can think about the award.
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The hardest part of RRTY for me was finding an event in October. I did 11 consecutives then missed October, so the following year made a special effort to get to a more distant event in October. The weather was kind that year so I managed 3 randonees in the month and got it. After another 11 events came October and I crashed and haven't randoneered since. Good luck.
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The hardest part of RRTY for me was finding an event in October.
December was the month I worried about; the only eligable ride that seemed possible was the Winter Solstice, which looked good but on December 23rd was quite likely to be poor weather. Therefore I made Pam Pilbeam's Mulled Wine 100K into a 200K DIY, rode around in the freezing cold and rain, then managed the Winter Solstice in lovely (if a little icy) weather :)
That made December the first month I'd done two 200K rides, which made my family think I'm even more barmy than they did before! I got my RRtY 11 months after riding my first 200K, which was nice.
Good luck to everyone doing this; it almost becomes a logistical achievement rather than a cycling one.
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For me, the hardest months are the summer. All weekends are usually busy with other things, so it'll have to be perms if there are no midweek calendar rides...
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The hardest part of RRTY for me was finding an event in October.
December was the month I worried about; the only eligable ride that seemed possible was the Winter Solstice, which looked good but on December 23rd was quite likely to be poor weather.
I like the Winter Solstice it's one of must staples run by a club mate. Clocked my fastest 200 on it year before last on Fixed too. Didn't do it last year though, could only just stand on my own two feet at that time of year. Eureka! in November in the same area is another decent winter ride. Haven't done A Mere 200 yet, DNSd on it a few years ago due to illness, converted it to a perm then DNFd on the perm due to losing a rider and heavy rain.
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Well, I had 18 months as of June. I guess that's as buggered as my knee now ::-).
Although... my knee has improved some over the last few days, so I'm not writing myself off yet - there's plenty of time before the 31st July ;).
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I like the Winter Solstice it's one of must staples run by a club mate. Clocked my fastest 200 on it year before last on Fixed too. Didn't do it last year though, could only just stand on my own two feet at that time of year. Eureka! in November in the same area is another decent winter ride. Haven't done A Mere 200 yet, DNSd on it a few years ago due to illness, converted it to a perm then DNFd on the perm due to losing a rider and heavy rain.
I rode all three last year, and they were all good rides; not difficult in themselves, so you only have the winter weather, ice and darkness to contend with. They are on my definite-maybe list to do again this year just to keep the legs turning over winter.
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I like the Winter Solstice it's one of must staples run by a club mate. Clocked my fastest 200 on it year before last on Fixed too. Didn't do it last year though, could only just stand on my own two feet at that time of year. Eureka! in November in the same area is another decent winter ride. Haven't done A Mere 200 yet, DNSd on it a few years ago due to illness, converted it to a perm then DNFd on the perm due to losing a rider and heavy rain.
I rode all three last year, and they were all good rides; not difficult in themselves, so you only have the winter weather, ice and darkness to contend with. They are on my definite-maybe list to do again this year just to keep the legs turning over winter.
I have pencilled them in this year too, on Fixed of course.
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Starting from home was a different experience. I found it harder to actually get out the door as I didn't have the urgency of travelling to the start for a set time to meet people etc.
Once I was off I was okay though.
Riding towards home to finish was ace though - as I knew that when I got off the bike it was the finish and not another journey to get home.
Riding around new roads and then back onto familiar ones to get home also helped with the morale boost.
Must find new routes around me though or it may get a bit tiresome.
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There was a 'frequenty asked questions' bit in Arrivee a few issues back. I think that the answer to the above was that it could be accepted for either month (but not both!).
Thanks for the pointer, I dug it out. Arrivée 92 (Spring 2006) has this on pp 25:-
Which month is it anyway?
Another would-be claimant asks in which month a 600km ride, starting on June 30 but finishing on July 1, would count. I think for this I'd be happy to count it for either (but not both) but I would want proof that at least 200km has been ridden in the claimed month.
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The answer to my question would seem to be 'no' since I won't be doing at least 200km by midnight. Ah well, I can live with that, and it takes the pressure off too. I'll go for a nice long bimble around Richmond Park tomorrow night instead.
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I left myself with a challenge of having to do the hilliest ride I'd ever entered for June since I packed last weekend and DNSd another earlier in the month. Got round though. :thumbsup:
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In a pseudo-teethgrinder madness, I have 2 on the boil at the moment. It would be 3 but for the DNF on the Irish Mail in May...
AC
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Greenbank's conundrum and other matters are covered here:
Peak Audax Randonnees Round the Year (http://www.highergrangefarm.fsnet.co.uk/PeakAudax/rrty.htm#faqs)
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Right, provisional plan for the next six months:
19/07/08 DIY Dun Run
23/08/08 Mildenhall 300
07/09/08 East Midlands Forests 200 (starts 1 mile from my house, so no excuses...)
04/10/08 Darley Abbey 150, DIYed to 200+
??/11/08 DIY 200
06/12/08 Tinsel and Lanes
I don't think I'll bust a gut to complete them - if I DNS/F for any reason, I hope I won't be too bothered.
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July - Bridge too Far 600, South Then North 600... plus whatever I feel up to after that
August - Flamorough Head 1000, Mildenhall 300, Couple of 200s?
September - Anfractuous 200 (as a 400 DIY?!)
October - Golden Tints 200
November - Upper Thames 200
December - Tinsel and Lanes 200
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Not finishing officially during my 600 last month lets me begin from zero. Next planned ride starts friday, in Vologda.
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After 19 months of a 600k or longer a month, I blew it last month by packing on a 1000k permanent. I'm not bothered really. I did ride alomost 600km and was well within time for a 600. I just had no chance of getting to work in time at the
speed slowness I was travelling at.
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After 19 months of a 600k or longer a month, I blew it last month by packing on a 1000k permanent.
That's the problem with the youth of today - can't stick at anything, give up too easily...
;)
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I've put links to this and the RRTY log thread in the Audax FAQs sticky
Don't forget to update
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Thank you.
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Right, provisional plan for the next six months:
19/07/08 DIY Dun Run
23/08/08 Mildenhall 300
07/09/08 East Midlands Forests 200 (starts 1 mile from my house, so no excuses...)
04/10/08 Darley Abbey 150, DIYed to 200+
??/11/08 DIY 200
06/12/08 Tinsel and Lanes
I don't think I'll bust a gut to complete them - if I DNS/F for any reason, I hope I won't be too bothered.
Well, that's that finished - I couldn't be bothered to ride to Ipswich from Dunwich on Sunday morning so my RRTY is off.
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in theory my next one should be the most pleasant by far; a DIY 200 from my holiday home in France to Cognac and back (ish); bikely claims 700m ascent :)
It will be nice to actually see some other people (rather than on my last 2) on the Anfractuous
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my RRTY is off.
Congratulations Chris and enjoy your freedom!
(I don't HAVE to ride until the end of August...
and am too tired to have got round to posting a list on here!)
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3 more to go.
Clwydian 220 this weekend for August.
Not so many to choose from in September though, and even fewer in October, so another possible DIY/Perm perhaps.
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Jethro,
Gavin Greenhow's 'Across to the Cotswold 200' from Droitwich on 11 Oct is a good one. I really enjoyed it last year.
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I've stuffed up too. This is harder than I thought it would be. Work and home keep getting in the way !!
Plus, I STILL haven't had a reply from Andy U re: DIY cards !!
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I've stuffed up too. This is harder than I thought it would be. Work and home keep getting in the way !!
Plus, I STILL haven't had a reply from Andy U re: DIY cards !!
Mr G, if you're stuck for DIY cards, I have a couple spare I could send you.
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I'm hanging on by the skin of my teeth! (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10.msg108679#msg108679)
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I've stuffed up too. This is harder than I thought it would be. Work and home keep getting in the way !!
Plus, I STILL haven't had a reply from Andy U re: DIY cards !!
Mr G, if you're stuck for DIY cards, I have a couple spare I could send you.
Thanks mate but I need to build a system with my local rep so I can be trusted when I submit my cards etc.
Life has got in the way of 'extra' cycling of late, deadlines, hatchet jobs and secret jobs have all conspired against me taking time off, but work and my profile have profited. All is good aside from the DIY failure.
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I've stuffed up too. This is harder than I thought it would be. Work and home keep getting in the way !!
Plus, I STILL haven't had a reply from Andy U re: DIY cards !!
Mr G, if you're stuck for DIY cards, I have a couple spare I could send you.
Thanks mate but I need to build a system with my local rep so I can be trusted when I submit my cards etc.
Life has got in the way of 'extra' cycling of late, deadlines, hatchet jobs and secret jobs have all conspired against me taking time off, but work and my profile have profited. All is good aside from the DIY failure.
Aye, understood Mr GruB.
All the best for you continued progress up the charts BTW :thumbsup:
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Thanks mate but I need to build a system with my local rep so I can be trusted when I submit my cards etc.
Entering the ride is one thing, as long as the DIY organiser has a signed entry form in advance you're all ok.
Requiring an actual Brevet Card before submitting it is one of the reasons why I go for all receipt/cashpoint controls. No silly stamps mean no Brevet Card needed until you need to submit the ride. A DNF also doesn't cost you a card.
There are plenty of people on this forum that hold a stock of DIY cards. You're probably never more than 50 miles from a spare...
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Still on track - thanks to a tow across the Fens by Fidgetbuzz at the end of July, and the Mildenhall 200 last weekend. Off to the Orthopedics today for MRI and session with a consultant about the knee. Hopefully I'll get the all-clear and RRTY can proceed as planned.
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Just DNSed this months DIY 200. Just didn't fancy going out in the rain today.
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Just DNSed this months DIY 200. Just didn't fancy going out in the rain today.
That's a shame. You should have come to Norfolk - cracking day here :thumbsup:.
You probably didn't want to know that though...
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Knowing I'd be away on hols in France or worjking all of August I entered a DIY from the holiday home we were staying at using a basic triangle; fiddling about with Google maps until I found 2 suitable control points. It started with a lovely 80k up the Charente valley to Cognac (free tour with tasting is not quite what you want on a 200 so I didn't) which I extended a bit to take in the nicer villages and roads.
The middle 40k was very windswept and East Anglian (also rolling) to a completely deserted town (they mostly all are around there) called Aulnay which fortunately did have one person working; at the Office du Tourisme which also boasted a stamp :)
The last 80k was a war of attrition into a hot and bothered headwind. Hardest 200 for some time. Fortunatley freshly cooked spaghetti with moules (and BEER) was waiting for me when I arrived back.
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This is where the challenge starts to get serious; I hit my first RRTY winter season 2 years ago; although the Feb ride was actually the worst one weatherwise.
My 3rd year depends on completing the Jan and Feb ones on the very last day of each month which leaves no room for DIY /perm fallbacks :-\
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Hi,
Assuming a 200, 300, 400 and a 600 ride are completed in one season as well as another eight 200+ rides in different months, can you claim for a RRTY award and an SR award or would you have to do twelve 200+ rides in addition to the SR series of rides to get the RRTY award?
Basically I'd like to go for both over the next year, my loose plan being:
October 200
November 200
December 200
January 200
February 200
March 200 or 300
April 300
May 400
June 200 or 600 (I'm away on holiday for two weeks in the middle of June)
July 200 or 600
August 200+
September 200+
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No problems with using the same rides for SR and RRtY in AUK. Audax Oz can get a bit weird that way.
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No problems with using the same rides for SR and RRtY in AUK. Audax Oz can get a bit weird that way.
Cool, thanks. It's AUK ;D
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Question: has anyone ever gotten a brevet that started in month A and finished in month B getting registered in month B for RRtY purposes with AUK?
I did a Dutch 400km BRM that started on September 30th 5pm and I finished October 1st 7am (I'm not fast, my bike is). I've asked our recorder to register it on October but haven't heard back yet. Which is ok in itself but I'm short on time in October and doing an extra ride "to be safe" is difficult (more difficult nearer the end of the month).
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Yes, some years ago, but you should have completed at least 200km of that event within the month you are claiming for.
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FYI: Dan registeres foreign brevets on the startdate, regardless whether they finish in the next month or not.
I scrambled and did two DIY200 this weekend, still on schedule for #8/9/10 :thumbsup:
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Previous RRtY organisers would make a manual adjustment for brevets straddling months. Perhaps the new and improved system makes that too difficult now.
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The RRtY validation system is the same as it has always been, processed in a wetware computer with only a little digital number crunching assistance.
On a multi-day event straddling two calendar months as long as it can be demonstrated that 200k+ was ridden in the second month then the validation process can be adjusted for that, on request. In reality, that means there must be a timed control 200k or more from the finish with PoP dated on the final day.
Of course, the default of using the start date as the recorded ridden date could be manipulated to the extent that 200k has not been ridden on the last day of the month where that was the first day of the event. Maybe that’s a bit of a stretch to think that could be taken advantage of but it is a theoretical possibility without fastidious checking.
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What's the situation with rides that start shortly before midnight on the last day of the month?
Although in this case it's theoretical as I'd ECE it if I was riding, I would ride 200k in neither month.
https://www.audax.uk/event-details/10902-friday_night_ride_to_the_bay