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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #75 on: 04 July, 2017, 01:29:32 pm »
How disappointing is it to hear that TV's *** Boulting and Super D Millar have been lunching on hot dogs and sauerkraut?
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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #76 on: 04 July, 2017, 01:46:15 pm »
That's what they want you to think, sheeple!  ;)

According to the unverifiable anonymous source that I share with Seymour Hersh, they actually had confit de canard and gratin dauphinoise for lunch today.
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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #77 on: 04 July, 2017, 04:19:13 pm »
Ooh.  Ow.  Nasty.
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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #78 on: 04 July, 2017, 04:20:17 pm »
That looked a bit too crazy for comfort!  Hope Cav's OK but it looks nasty :'(
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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #79 on: 04 July, 2017, 04:22:35 pm »
Bastard Sagan.

Cav got over the line, though.
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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #80 on: 04 July, 2017, 04:23:50 pm »
Looks like Sagan pushed Cav into the barriers. Nasty.

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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #81 on: 04 July, 2017, 04:24:27 pm »
Bastard Sagan.

Cav got over the line, though.

Just before the break, Gary Imlach said something about Sagan using choice language towards Greipel...
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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #82 on: 04 July, 2017, 04:27:04 pm »
Fr. commentators putting it 50/50 between Sagan and Cav: what Sagan did was "normal" for a sprint and Cav was trying to get through a space that wasn't wide enough.

Sagan strikes me as a cocky bugger, but what do I know?
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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #83 on: 04 July, 2017, 04:28:31 pm »
Highlights should be interesting! Due to work I missed it all completely! Looks like they were out to get British riders! Bastards!

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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #84 on: 04 July, 2017, 04:37:56 pm »
Ouch!
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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #85 on: 04 July, 2017, 04:39:32 pm »
Bastard Sagan.

Cav got over the line, though.

Just before the break, Gary Imlach said something about Sagan using choice language towards Greipel...

Other way round, I think.  CP Sagan was asked what Greipel was miffed about and said "You'll have to ask him".
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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #86 on: 04 July, 2017, 04:45:55 pm »
You get a fairly good view from here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4atl-3Njwg

Looks to me like sagan was moving out with the rest of them, Cav was trying to sneak past, didn't move out, got clipped. Yes, Sagan's elbow was moving out a bit, but only with the rhythm of his pedalling (ie he was swinging out with his other elbow as well just as much).

Overtaking rider needs to ensure there is room to get through, sorry Cav

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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #87 on: 04 July, 2017, 04:48:52 pm »
Interview with Cav does not sound good for him to continue and while ITV4 crew were very politically correct I note there was ample space to the left of Sagan to allow him to move over. Perhaps Greipal was berating him for his poor skills and putting Cav into the barrier rather than sit-up.  Clearly Cav is not impressed with Sagan.  Highlights should be interesting.

Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #88 on: 04 July, 2017, 04:57:02 pm »
Between 53-55s of the YouTube clip you can see Cav is on the wheel of AD and would have followed that wheel had Sagan not tried to get on AD's wheel and effectively barged into him. Oceans of space on Sagan's left but he tried to jump on AD's wheel and in doing so took Cav out.

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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #89 on: 04 July, 2017, 05:12:24 pm »
Stage 4: Mondorf-les-Bains->Vittel

D Friebe:O hai! I am TV’s D Friebe and I am made ov teh Wood Win! Here is M Cavendish 2 tell u Stuffs!
M Cavendish:O hai! I am M Cavendish and, although made ov 100% pure Win, I am teh New! IMPROVED!!1! M Cavendish and am mellow about not pwning teh stage. Far out, man!
G Imlach:O hai! I am TV’s G Imlach and know 0 less than zero about teh Château de Preisch. Here is 1 ov TV’s C Boardmen 2 tell u Stuffs!
NC Boardman:O hai! It is I, TV’s Nice C Boardman! A Greipel. M Cavendish. M Kitteh. (Improvises desperately) CP Sagan inna welder’s mask anna gimp suit! Wind!
N Boulting:O hai! Schengen! Bit ov political Stuffs there, Mrs Thatch, mi name’s TV’s B Elton, goodnight!
N Farage:Stop that! STOP THAT!!1! We’ve taken back control, remember! U fascist, communist wreckers should all be shot!
Omnes:Sod off, u one-issue capitalist running dog! Teh East is Red!
SD Millar:Today I are talking mostly about ancient history. Bradley Wiggins.
GV Keirhardie:O hai! I am GV Keirhardie! 1 hundred and twenty-five years ago today mi grate-grandfather was elected 2 Parliament1. Where TF is everyone?
N Boulting:Super D and I are still here, but not 4 long. Lunch beckoneth!
Grams: WHOOOOOOSH!
M Smith:O hai today I. Am joined by K. House why is C. P Sagan so made. Ov teh Win?
Omnes:K House? Who he?
K House:O hai! I am K House. I should be spending teh Fourth ov July setting off fireworks, drinking Jack and getting maudlin about Old Glory2, not sitting in a cupboard in That London with a northern Australopethicus, if such a thing is not an oxymoron3. CP Sagan? He’s crazy!
Omnes:U were better when u were played by TV’s H Laurie!
GV Keirhardie:Where TF is everyone?
M Smith:Thank u K House. And now a live. Update from R Hammond. No, teh other R. Hammond.
R Hammond:Mmfmmmfpmmpppppmpmmfffmmmfp mfpmpppmfmffmmfppfpfmfmpmpppff pfmppfpffpmp pfmmffmpp mfpmmmfmp ppfppmpppmfffmmmfpmmmppmmmppmfmppfmm pmfppfpppmfm fmpmpppffppm mmfmmmpff pfmmmmpffpmp! 4 sure!
M Smith:Thank u 4 ur. Fascinating insight there R. Hammond what did he. Just say?
GV Keirhardie:Where TF is everyone?
A good deal later…
K House:…and I saw a giraffe!
M Smith:Sometimes I hate this. Job!
K House:Big Lebowski!
GV Keirhardie:Where TF is everyone?
Omnes:Bridge, bridge!!1!
C Lion:w00t!
M Smith:Look, see, a field ov wheat!
T Mayhemhem:w00t! By teh Power ov Mayskull!!1!
A Loathesome:Stop that! STOP THAT!!1! U spud-hoarding rabble! Oh, if only there was a war on! I could have u unpatriotic twat batons shot!
After teh Party Political Broadcast…
GV Keirhardie:Where TF is everyone?
TD Gendt:Behind u!
SD Millar:Game Theory! Hic!
N Boulting:Semi-permeable membrane!
GV Keirhardie:Where TF is everyone?
N Boulting:And now Jackanory, with N Farage’s worst nightmare, TV’s M Rendall.
M Rendall:Ańćestœr sinkt rėgênbogën nambæwań pikinini Rik vān Lòóy jai guru ðeva om! Isoglass Garden Wood!
After everyone’s afternoon nap4
GV Keirhardie:Where TF is everyone?
N Boulting:Look! A funny sheeps! Ignorance is bliss!
A Sheep:I’ll have u know, ***, that I haz a Ph.D in Quantum Chromodynamics and yet u stereotype me as a mindless ovine who doesn’t even know he’s been painted wif teh spottyjumper! Your all gay!
N Boulting:Did u spike mi afternoon covfefe, Super D?
In due course…
SD Millar:(Indicates pogoing Frenchmen with punk rock electric guitars) Oi, oi! What’s goin’ on ‘ere?
P Frenchmen:(2 teh approximate tune ov “Seven Nation Army”) Oh, Jeremy Corbyn!
C Richard:If this was Wmbldn I could have u shot!
J White:I didn’t get paid 4 that, y’know!
GV Keirhardie:Where TF is everyone?
Finally…
N Boulting:Teh sprinters’ teams are getting their ducks in a row.
A Duck:Eff off, ***! Got any bread?
N Boulting:Reboot!
GV Keirhardie:What kept u?
CP Sagan:We stopped 4 teh three-course lunch. Om nom nom nom crazy!
M Kitteh:I had fish! Also, miaow!
SD Millar:Firepower! Horsepower! Horses on fire! Findus lasagne!
M Kitteh:WTF? And not miaow at all.
G Thomas:WTF?
M Cavendish:WTF?
CP Sagan:(Uncharacteristic reticence)
A Demare:O hai! Merci, bonne chance et vive la France!
Omnes:So, typical flat stage then?
ML Maire:Yes. Yes, it was. Well, up 2 teh last ten seconds anyway.

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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #90 on: 04 July, 2017, 05:20:52 pm »
Sagan's been relegated to 115th on the stage (i.e. to back of the bunch credited with the winner's time), and given a 30 second time penalty.

Before being penalised, the results on the show had him at 2nd, 7 seconds off G courtesy of the time bonus (also stripped), now he's 43 seconds back.

http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2017/us/classifications.html

Edit - looks like he's had a load of green jersey points stripped as well - he's being shown as only having 15 now.
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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #91 on: 04 July, 2017, 05:40:08 pm »
Guess somebody agrees with me then!

Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #92 on: 04 July, 2017, 05:52:15 pm »
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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #94 on: 04 July, 2017, 06:04:05 pm »
Live.cyclingnews.com has reported Sagan DQed just now.

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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #95 on: 04 July, 2017, 06:09:24 pm »
They're not afraid to make decisions, unlike in F1. I think it is the right decision, given the trajectory of Sagan where he didn't leave any space for Cav, and then attempted use of his elbow.

Opens up the Green jersey competition somewhat. I'm not even sure I know who the likely contenders will be, given Sagan was such a dead cert.

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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #96 on: 04 July, 2017, 06:10:11 pm »
Todays winner, nearly takes out someone else when he zigzags around. Good helicopter view here - https://twitter.com/manueltorresanz/status/882284567213821952
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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #97 on: 04 July, 2017, 06:11:16 pm »
Danish tweet said that Cav's hood got under Sagan underarm, that might explain the elbow more.
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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #98 on: 04 July, 2017, 06:12:43 pm »
Opens up the Green jersey competition somewhat. I'm not even sure I know who the likely contenders will be, given Sagan was such a dead cert.

Matthews vs Demare, I reckon. They can both contest the flat sprints and the hillier finishes.
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Re: TdeF 2017
« Reply #99 on: 04 July, 2017, 06:15:08 pm »
I'm wondering if there are other incidents taken into consideration, because I'd seen comments in a thread elsewhere that Sagan had used his elbows on Greipel in the intermediate sprint yesterday. Word is that he also triggered the crash that G was caught in...

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