Author Topic: King Crimson Sample WTF.  (Read 7816 times)


Jaded

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Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #1 on: 08 July, 2010, 11:19:32 pm »
Oh, I thought this might be a music thread, but it appears I'm mistaken.
It is simpler than it looks.

Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #2 on: 09 July, 2010, 06:43:26 am »
Says a lot about modern music in that they have to keep on stealing the real thing?

Flying_Monkey

Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #3 on: 09 July, 2010, 01:11:55 pm »
Wow, we have all the usual prejudices straight off, what a surprise...  ::-)

I quite liked it. It's not brilliant, but it's fun. The original still exists, and this may even cause people who would not otherwise have done so to look it up.

Jaded

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Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #4 on: 09 July, 2010, 01:22:00 pm »
Of course.
It is simpler than it looks.

Gus

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Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #5 on: 09 July, 2010, 01:32:11 pm »
 :sick:

Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #6 on: 09 July, 2010, 01:47:07 pm »
Not really prejudice, just opinion -  a load of excrement.

I don't understand the modern world and its tastes.

Can i be incinerated now please?  :-[


RichForrest

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Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #7 on: 09 July, 2010, 01:48:37 pm »
Says a lot about modern music in that they have to keep on stealing the real thing?

This has gone on for ever though  ;D

Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #8 on: 09 July, 2010, 01:49:29 pm »
Not a big rap fan but I quite like that.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #9 on: 09 July, 2010, 02:32:45 pm »
Wow, we have all the usual prejudices straight off, what a surprise...  ::-)

...
The original still exists, and this may even cause people who would not otherwise have done so to look it up.
Yup, good point - I don't have a problem with sampling, or covers, whatever.

But this is rubbish. He can do a lot better (Gold Digger  :thumbsup: )

Just because you CAN do stuff with technology ...
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Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #10 on: 09 July, 2010, 02:53:45 pm »
The frightening thought is that once people start going down this path the charts will resound with fragments of ELP, Yes and Genesis and I'll be subject to a series of momentary flashbacks from music coming from Top Shop, much as happened last night at the leisure centre, when I immediately assumed I was having some sort of exercise-induced auditory hallucination.

Jaded

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Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #11 on: 09 July, 2010, 02:58:07 pm »
Wow, we have all the usual prejudices straight off, what a surprise...  ::-)

...
The original still exists, and this may even cause people who would not otherwise have done so to look it up.
Yup, good point - I don't have a problem with sampling, or covers, whatever.

But this is rubbish. He can do a lot better (Gold Digger  :thumbsup: )

Just because you CAN do stuff with technology ...

It's all a bit Classic FM though. A tiny best bit grabbed here and a tiny best bit grabbed there. Dumbed down rubbish for those with an attention span slightly less than a goldfish.
It is simpler than it looks.

Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #12 on: 09 July, 2010, 03:03:12 pm »
There is a Classic FM style version of Schizoid Man.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/SWS3ofzuiMU&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/SWS3ofzuiMU&rel=1</a>

Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #13 on: 09 July, 2010, 03:31:29 pm »
Dear gods it's shit. And I haven't even listened to it.

Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #14 on: 09 July, 2010, 03:33:57 pm »
Wow, we have all the usual prejudices straight off, what a surprise...  ::-)

That's hardly fair is it?

How could any of us possibly hope to achieve the lofty heights of open-mindedness that you do on such a regular basis?

Give us a chance...We're only mere mortals

Tourist Tony

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Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #15 on: 09 July, 2010, 03:51:40 pm »
But it is still shit.
"New" does not equal "good"
The best comment on rap I came across was rom the American strip cartoon "Bloom County", in which one character is striding purposefully, hat backwards, when he is hailed by a friend.
"Where ya going?"
"I'm gonna see a rap concert!"
"You mean you paid to watch four fat black dudes shout at you?"
"Oh.......yeah. You're right"

FM, the reason so many of us think it is shit is because it is tuneless doggerel. If the words were interesting, I might have a different opinion, but they aren't. There is no music there. No development of ideas. No dynamic tension, no crescendo/diminuendo, no VARIETY.
You want to listen to rap? Here are two examples: Eels, and Tom Waits.

Flying_Monkey

Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #16 on: 09 July, 2010, 04:28:42 pm »
But it is still shit.
"New" does not equal "good"
The best comment on rap I came across was rom the American strip cartoon "Bloom County", in which one character is striding purposefully, hat backwards, when he is hailed by a friend.
"Where ya going?"
"I'm gonna see a rap concert!"
"You mean you paid to watch four fat black dudes shout at you?"
"Oh.......yeah. You're right"

FM, the reason so many of us think it is shit is because it is tuneless doggerel. If the words were interesting, I might have a different opinion, but they aren't. There is no music there. No development of ideas. No dynamic tension, no crescendo/diminuendo, no VARIETY.
You want to listen to rap? Here are two examples: Eels, and Tom Waits.

Firstly, nowhere did I say that new = good (or even that rap = good), and secondly, the first two posters (to whom I was responding) had said nothing intelligent about the actual piece at issue but, and I quote, "Oh, I thought this might be a music thread, but it appears I'm mistaken" and "Says a lot about modern music in that they have to keep on stealing the real thing?"

And BTW, I have almost everything both Tom Waits and Eels have ever done. And I enjoy them, but I also enjoy Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, MC Solaar, and The Roots just as much. I am not putting up rap or hip-hop in general up against anything else in general, nor am I arguing that this particular piece is that good (it's no more than fun, as I have already said), I am just tired of simple and tedious prejudice that goes back to all those redneck comedians of the 1980s who would do that joke, 'rap? crap, more like!' Hilarious, I think you'll agree, especially the 417th time you hear it...  

Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #17 on: 09 July, 2010, 05:19:22 pm »
Hey calm down. It's only rap music we are talking about here. Not anything serious

mattc

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Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #18 on: 09 July, 2010, 06:36:49 pm »
If it's any good, you'll get to hear it 20 years from now, as a sample.
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Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #19 on: 09 July, 2010, 06:38:00 pm »
Hey calm down. It's only rap music we are talking about here. Not anything serious

I thought we were talking about how shite King Crimson are/were.

Redlight

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Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #20 on: 09 July, 2010, 11:16:42 pm »
Hey calm down. It's only rap music we are talking about here. Not anything serious

I thought we were talking about how shite King Crimson are/were.

Actually this thread prompted me to dig out the original (vinyl) and listen to it for the first time in about 20 years. Now I realise why i haven't listened to it in 20 years.  
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Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #21 on: 10 July, 2010, 07:55:55 pm »
Hey calm down. It's only rap we are talking about here. Not anything serious
FTFY*





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Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #22 on: 11 July, 2010, 06:32:36 pm »
Not really prejudice, just opinion -  a load of excrement.

I don't understand the modern world and its tastes.

Can i be incinerated now please?  :-[
I  run around with a younger Jenny Agguter wearing in a flimsy short dress... and then be incinerated??


I have corrected that for you, and probably shown my age!



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Re: King Crimson Sample WTF.
« Reply #23 on: 16 July, 2010, 03:34:50 am »
I'd like to say quite a few things about that picture.

Instead I'll stop at the following, forum-safe, tried and tested comment:

*moment*

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