a haze of Marlboro smoke.
How did the ex-smokers among you pick a date for an attempt?
I think I am at the stage where I can either stop soon or I might as well carry on for the rest of my days.
I keep hoping for some stand-out date but they all pass by in a haze of Marlboro smoke.
How did the ex-smokers among you pick a date for an attempt?
This is VITAL. DON'T TELL ANYONE THAT YOU ARE/HAVE GIVEN UP SMOKING. What I mean is; let them find out. Be proud of yourself.
Anyway in the meantime tell me good things about not smoking. Will I get a girlfriend?
Hmm? OK, get laid even?
I think I am at the stage where I can either stop soon or I might as well carry on for the rest of my days.
I keep hoping for some stand-out date but they all pass by in a haze of Marlboro smoke.
How did the ex-smokers among you pick a date for an attempt?
The promble is that to succeed I think I need short term rewards. And I think stopping smoking is more about long term rewards, but I am not good at those.
The promble is that to succeed I think I need short term rewards. And I think stopping smoking is more about long term rewards, but I am not good at those.
Save your cigarette pennies for a month and put them towards something (some piece of shiny bike kit?) you want but do not need, and can't really otherwise justify getting? Or towards a posh and frivolous meal?
It was really tough - but what developed was a realisation that I wanted to not smoke more than I wanted to smoke, and for me, that was a BIG motivator.
Breaking the habit was the hard part. It's not about the addiction - it's all about little rituals you've built up over the years, reinforced day after day after day. All that needs to be broken down, and either replaced or discarded.
When I used to smoke, I never fancied a fag when I had a bad cold, so I choose this time to pack up.
This is VITAL. DON'T TELL ANYONE THAT YOU ARE/HAVE GIVEN UP SMOKING. What I mean is; let them find out. Be proud of yourself.It took my then live-in girlfriend now the current Mrs FB 4 days to notice I'd stopped, my best friends didn't notice for 3 weeks.
Anyway in the meantime tell me good things about not smoking. Will I get a girlfriend?
Hmm? OK, get laid even?
Yes obviously and Yes lots
Opinions expressed may contain truths or traces of truths
Good luck!
Finding out they'd lost their sex lives earlier was a revelation.
Just stop, Simon. Stop stop stop. Do it NOW.
You obviously need a new bad habit to replace the smoking.
Not smoking or drinking just seems too much. :(
Finding out they'd lost their sex lives earlier was a revelation.
Now we're talking. More gore please.Just stop, Simon. Stop stop stop. Do it NOW.
Why what's happened? ;D It's that bit about the sex life isn't it? :P
Nope, it's not, actually.Finding out they'd lost their sex lives earlier was a revelation.
Now we're talking. More gore please.Just stop, Simon. Stop stop stop. Do it NOW.
Why what's happened? ;D It's that bit about the sex life isn't it? :P
Losing your sex life isn't dramatic; it's just tragic in a quiet, personal way.
Normal, appropriate stimuli elicit no response.
When you stop you will take control of another aspect of your life and gain a bit more self respect. That alone is reason enough to do it.
Normal, appropriate stimuli elicit no response.
*Gulp*
However, the lapses are getting less frequent. A packet of ten when smoking company is expected.
Now, he'd had a letter from his consultant vascular surgeon telling him that he had a complete occlusion
Shall we give up together?
We could be 'giving up buddies'. :thumbsup:
I am having trouble conceiving of myself as someone who doesn't smoke.
Redefine who you are
Read this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ again S.
It's true.
Move on.
Wen a mate of mine stopped, he started to drink faster and more when in the pub and and at home he was eating more, like snacks etc. He told me the reason for this was not the craving/addiction but something to do with his hands.
Read this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ again S.
It's true.
Move on.
I'm reading it.
Is all true.
Read this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ again S.
It's true.
Move on.
I'm reading it.
Is all true.
In my experience?
Yes
Amnesty agreed - I'm not that uptight about it - you would've heard about it if I was.
Jurek, was just thinkin', could you declare an amnesty on the topic for the night of the Dunwich? :P
I promise to smoke downwind.
Jurek, was just thinkin', could you declare an amnesty on the topic for the night of the Dunwich? :P
I promise to smoke downwind.
I definitely am.Jurek, was just thinkin', could you declare an amnesty on the topic for the night of the Dunwich? :P
I promise to smoke downwind.
I'm not one of these uptight, creepy people who seem to think that just because they're a non-smoker, it's okay for them to suck their teeth and look daggers at people who light up near them.
The decision to smoke is yours alone. I'm not one of these uptight, creepy people who seem to think that just because they're a non-smoker, it's okay for them to suck their teeth and look daggers at people who light up near them. If you're in an area where it's legal to smoke, then smoke.
The decision to smoke is yours alone. I'm not one of these uptight, creepy people who seem to think that just because they're a non-smoker, it's okay for them to suck their teeth and look daggers at people who light up near them. If you're in an area where it's legal to smoke, then smoke.
I won't give you any grief, I promise.
If someone lights up next to me I either move away or if I can't, I ask them to stop or move away.The decision to smoke is yours alone. I'm not one of these uptight, creepy people who seem to think that just because they're a non-smoker, it's okay for them to suck their teeth and look daggers at people who light up near them. If you're in an area where it's legal to smoke, then smoke.
+1
The vehement anti-smokers (especially the ex-smokers) are almost as bad as the mandatory-h*lm*t loons.
If someone lights up next to me I either move away or if I can't, I ask them to stop or move away.
I have bad asthma. Sorry about that. I like to be able to breathe.
If someone lights up next to me I either move away or if I can't, I ask them to stop or move away.The decision to smoke is yours alone. I'm not one of these uptight, creepy people who seem to think that just because they're a non-smoker, it's okay for them to suck their teeth and look daggers at people who light up near them. If you're in an area where it's legal to smoke, then smoke.
+1
The vehement anti-smokers (especially the ex-smokers) are almost as bad as the mandatory-h*lm*t loons.
I have bad asthma. Sorry about that. I like to be able to breathe.
I am considerate of others when I do feel the need to light up.Agreed, you are. :thumbsup:
Seriously though...I don't have any advice on stopping but if it helps then I can honestly say I really do find smoking an unattractive habit, even if it's a really gorgeous man doing it...it's kind of a deal breaker for me.
I am considerate of others when I do feel the need to light up.
Anyhoo... enough of that.
There may be a plan afoot.
Tiger, in the course of your studies on the subject, do you have any useful references / thoughts on strategies to deal with the "powerful magic"?
I guess I just need a mental rebuild :(
The decision to smoke is yours alone. I'm not one of these uptight, creepy people who seem to think that just because they're a non-smoker, it's okay for them to suck their teeth and look daggers at people who light up near them. If you're in an area where it's legal to smoke, then smoke.Too true. I feel a bit sad, though, that we non-smokers have lost a bit of the great outdoors in consequence of the Act. I love eating at the garden table outdoors if the weather suits - at home of course it's not an issue, but at pubs and restaurants, the outdoor tables are now the places to keep away from. I just feel I've been forced to give ground, when I feel it's the smokers - especially those who refuse to even try giving up - who ought to be making the concessions. And it is unpleasant to be in the vicinity of a lot of smokers, even outdoors.
And as for the patio heaters outside pubs - OK I know the pubs are trying to claw back the trade they've lost - I know it's a winter issue and we're now in mid-summer - but really!Well have you ever seen a smoker dress sensibly ? I mean every pub/bar/resto/work place I have gone by since the ban, in the winter, had a pack of smokers standing outside in short skirts, t-shirts or just one layer shaking as a shaking thing :) :) :)
I feel sorry for colleagues and cow-orkers whose lunchbreak (30mins) consists of four or five cigarettes chain-smoked in almost a frenzy.
Today marks approx 6 months IIRC since I packed in the fags.
I think fairly constantly about cigarettes and cigars
Thanks for the added food for thought.
I have a plan but I'd rather not talk about it. It does involve taking Champix.Today marks approx 6 months IIRC since I packed in the fags.
Well done.I think fairly constantly about cigarettes and cigars
That's what I'm not looking forward to.
I am totally as a loss as to what I am going to do with myself when I am not smoking. At present I feel a mild anxiety even if I am down to 2 cigs in the packet.
That's what I'm not looking forward to.
I have a plan but I'd rather not talk about it. It does involve taking Champix.
Try the Lance Armstrong method of deciding whether you are actually hungry, or just thinking about food.
When you get the thought "I want a cigarette" look at the time, and wait 15 minutes - If you really do want it, you will still want it.
Try the Lance Armstrong method of deciding whether you are actually hungry, or just thinking about food.
When you get the thought "I want a cigarette" look at the time, and wait 15 minutes - If you really do want it, you will still want it.
All very laudable, if you want to be a driven obsessive.
a bit of awareness into ones own thought patterns and habitual behaviour can be enlightening & liberating sometimes, for some people, in freeing themselves from a sense of being a slave to destructive ways of doing things - at least it was for me when I packed up some 9 yrs ago.
a bit of awareness into ones own thought patterns and habitual behaviour can be enlightening & liberating sometimes, for some people, in freeing themselves from a sense of being a slave to destructive ways of doing things - at least it was for me when I packed up some 9 yrs ago.
Yep!
It was exactly that kind of rationale that got me off smoking, after years of it, relatively quickly and easily.
Now, if only I could apply the same to the sauce . . . .
Well, this is probably at the heart of my mixed feelings about giving up: it's not just about smoking. It's about making some fundamental changes in my life and I am perhaps not ready for all of them.
Or is this just the nicotine talking, making the matter more complicated than it needs to be.
Well, this is probably at the heart of my mixed feelings about giving up: it's not just about smoking. It's about making some fundamental changes in my life and I am perhaps not ready for all of them.
Or is this just the nicotine talking, making the matter more complicated than it needs to be.
Try the Lance Armstrong method of deciding whether you are actually hungry, or just thinking about food.
When you get the thought "I want a cigarette" look at the time, and wait 15 minutes - If you really do want it, you will still want it.
All very laudable, if you want to be a driven obsessive.
and especially laudable if it helps anybody in any small way whatsoever who wants to pack up smoking, and actually does so.
a bit of awareness into ones own thought patterns and habitual behaviour can be enlightening & liberating sometimes, for some people, in freeing themselves from a sense of being a slave to destructive ways of doing things - at least it was for me when I packed up some 9 yrs ago.
When I walk past the smoking refugees at work I find myself pitying them slightly (while well aware that I am indeed still one of them).
I feel slightly embarrassed some of the time when I smoke now. Or just slightly stupid. I tend to smoke where no-one can see me, sneaking off furtively away from the people I'm with unless I'm with people who already know I smoke.
When I walk past the smoking refugees at work I find myself pitying them slightly (while well aware that I am indeed still one of them).
I'm attempting to re-think my attitude to the whole thing. This is involving a change of attitude to a lot of other things in my life. I no longer want to be someone who lets himself down.
Have you read Easy way to stop smoking (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Allen-Carrs-Easy-Stop-Smoking/dp/0141026898/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218840173&sr=8-1)?
I'm making myself read this thread again.
:(
I shall give up my right to smoke when they prise the last butt from my cold dead fingers.
"Stopped smoking....." c.1965 for a whole YEAR. Not since.
I shall give up my right to smoke when they prise the last butt from my cold dead fingers.
"Stopped smoking....." c.1965 for a whole YEAR. Not since.
I shall give up my right to smoke when they prise the last butt from my cold dead fingers.
I do want to give up. But obviously not enough.
Jeez.
I am starting my first dose of Champix today.
* I'll not bore the forum with my own history but if you wish, I'll PM it to you.+1^ I stopped 18 years ago, and I was a member of the Scottish International Pro Smoking Team. ::-)
Encouragement appreciated. I've smoked since I was 16. I've never tried to stop before and I doubt if more than a single day (that being when I was having back surgery - I recall getting my best friend to bring me fags into the hospital) has passed without having a cigarette since then.
I want the freedom of not feeling the need to smoke.
I've swallowed today's Champix now.
It was doubly hard because I also stopped a twenty year dope habit at the same time.
It was doubly hard because I also stopped a twenty year dope habit at the same time.
Hookahs can be your friend ;)
I think I am sick of smoking. I'm not enjoying my cigarettes: I wolf them down. I smoke as soon as I wake in the morning. Even that first one is not doing much for me, it's just staving off a future lack of nicotine. Cigarettes are a waste of time for me as far as relaxation goes: the underlying knowledge of the actual and potential harm causes more stress than the cigarette can relieve. I am tired of "needing" cigarettes, and the "dependence", the need to ensure a constant supply.
I am starting my first dose of Champix today. I don't want to reveal my proposed quit date - it's not a special day, it is simply (as recommended) between a week and 2 weeks of starting the Champix.
I don't have any cigarettes.
It is very very odd and I am not sure if I like it. I don't feel any physical need for a cigarette, but... hard to explain the feeling. Hole-like.
This really would be much easier if I somehow felt better.
Lapsed after 4 days. Arse.
Another try tomorrow.
I guess it served a purpose. One reason for the lapse is that I "forgot" why I'd stopped. Another is that I somehow felt that I should just check again to see if I liked smoking. I'll put the first reason down to the tricky ways of Nick O'Teen. The second was useful in that it showed me that I just wasn't getting anything out of it any more.
Bah.
Fucking arse.
Lapsed after 4 days. Arse.
Another try tomorrow.
I guess it served a purpose. One reason for the lapse is that I "forgot" why I'd stopped. Another is that I somehow felt that I should just check again to see if I liked smoking. I'll put the first reason down to the tricky ways of Nick O'Teen. The second was useful in that it showed me that I just wasn't getting anything out of it any more.
Bah.
Fucking arse.
It's a process - not an event. Pick yourself up - watch out for that trap next time, and carry on with the process.
I went through lots of different phases before I found the right combination of magic spells to make it stick.
at the end of the day you really have to want to pack up at a deep level in your mind to succeed. At least that's what I found. You really have to get to the point where you know the game's up. The party's over. And it has to be genuine. Unfortunately finding that place of finality in your mentality can be a bit allusive sometimes.
at the end of the day you really have to want to pack up at a deep level in your mind to succeed. At least that's what I found. You really have to get to the point where you know the game's up. The party's over.
I have a son (18) who smokes. Any ideas how to stop him doing it?
I have a son (18) who smokes. Any ideas how to stop him doing it?
It is that simple finally. If you don't have that deep "need" to give up then you won't succeed, so there's no real point in "trying". You'll just put yourself (and others) through a lot of hardship during the on/off process to no end. Remember, it's within your power to control this, but you need to be tough mentally
I've been off the fags for a while now. Hate it, to be honest.
I don't remember much in the way of physical withdrawal symptoms - or even psychological symptoms. Just don't like being a non-smoker - bunch of killjoy goody-goodies. I've always been very suspicious of clean living types; I imagine them watching homo erotic Nazi fitness propaganda films in the evenings
Part of my ambivalence comes from this natural dislike of being a "killjoy goody-goody", and a disbelief that I could be turning out to be not only a non-drinker but a non-smoker too :-\
if you're ambivalent I can guarantee you won't be able to give up so I'm not exactly sure why you are giving yourself a hard time in "trying".
if you're ambivalent I can absolutely guarantee you won't be able to give up so I'm not exactly sure why you are giving yourself a hard time by "trying".
I haven't turned into a killjoy goody-goody
I work on the principle that if the world is divided into smokers and non-smokers, I'd fall into the smoking half.
I'm just not doing it at the moment. And haven't for the last 3 years. And have no plans to, for the foreseeable.
I've been off the fags for a while now. Hate it, to be honest.
I don't remember much in the way of physical withdrawal symptoms - or even psychological symptoms. Just don't like being a non-smoker - bunch of killjoy goody-goodies. I've always been very suspicious of clean living types; I imagine them watching homo erotic Nazi fitness propaganda films in the evenings
your thinking is very close to mine. Part of my ambivalence comes from this natural dislike of being a "killjoy goody-goody", and a disbelief that I could be turning out to be not only a non-drinker but a non-smoker too :-\
(2352 hrs Saturday 29/9/1979 and I was as pissed as a handcart)
You make it sound like you had no choice in starting to smoke.
Finally, just remember for those of you who have given up you have a claim to something which no non- smoker can ever lay claim to. You took on the beast and you WON.
A "How I beat Cancer" thread (apt though it may be) would probably blow this thread away in terms of impact.I'm not sure of that actually; I think some of these stories in this thread have been very admirable and impressive.
You make it sound like you had no choice in starting to smoke.
Finally, just remember for those of you who have given up you have a claim to something which no non- smoker can ever lay claim to. You took on the beast and you WON.
You make it sound like you had no choice in starting to smoke.
I'm not sure either. People don't "beat" cancer because of willpower and determination - it's down to medical treatment and the progress of the disease. Beating an addiction is about willpower and strength and I have every respect for the people who manage it.A "How I beat Cancer" thread (apt though it may be) would probably blow this thread away in terms of impact.I'm not sure of that actually; I think some of these stories in this thread have been very admirable and impressive.
Well I'm not sure that's 100% true, I think that willpower and determination can make a difference to cancer outcomes, perhaps in resuming normal life sooner and being less invalidish. But I still think that the willpower involved in stopping smoking is very notable.I'm not sure either. People don't "beat" cancer because of willpower and determination - it's down to medical treatment and the progress of the disease. Beating an addiction is about willpower and strength and I have every respect for the people who manage it.A "How I beat Cancer" thread (apt though it may be) would probably blow this thread away in terms of impact.I'm not sure of that actually; I think some of these stories in this thread have been very admirable and impressive.
No cravings or urges
No cravings or urges
What, none at all, or just none for cigs?
Well done and good luck.
If you keep it up till Mildenhall, I promise not to take the piss out of your palanquin! ;)
I think I am at the stage where I can either stop soon or I might as well carry on for the rest of my days.
Two months fag free today. :smug:
Finally going to give it a crack. Chucked the fags, lighter, etc. in a bin earlier. A bin outside Charing Cross Hospital, in fact.
Nicorette lozenges on stand-by.
And stop hanging about with smokers,
Finally going to give it a crack. Chucked the fags, lighter, etc. in a bin earlier. A bin outside Charing Cross Hospital, in fact.
Nicorette lozenges on stand-by.
Don't know which size you're using, Sarge, but the little tic tac sized 4mg are good. Just pop one up between your cheek and gum and you're good for the whole afternoon.
But it's the behavioural side of it that is the problem.
I got one of those plastic cigarettes into which is inserted a nicotene "pill".I dispensed with the "pill" but found the plastic ciggy,held in my fingers & passed to & fro like a real cancer stick,a tremendous physcological prop.In fact I'm convinced it was the thing which allowed me to succeed after very many previous failures.
I suppose you could use the barrel of a biro :-\
Blather..... Anyway, I still don't have any fags...... more blather
A lesson from a couple of days ago. I had a couple of very expensive cigarettes during the first few days: pack of 10 at £4.30 odd + box of matches, smoked one, threw the rest away. That's about a fiver a cig, so I thought the thing to do might be do have an Emergency Packet. Bad idea for someone with my mentality; a remarkable number of emergencies arose. Emergency Packet binned after about 3 cigarettes. Still, it served a purpose in a way: I just don't like smoking cigarettes any more.Emergency pack = Fail. Avoid.
Going OK now, bar the nicotine replacement lozenges. I was off work last week, so today was the first day at work (ever) without cigarettes. Very weird.
This thread is now two years old!I'd disagree. Pluck had initially asked when was a good time. Now he's doing without, at least some of the time.
And with very little progress to stop smoking
I just don't like smoking cigarettes any more.
- I'm a bit worried about how much of this relative lack of difficulty in stopping (relative to how hard I thought it would be) is down to regularly sucking on nicotine lozenges.
I'm still carrying on carrying on.:thumbsup:
I'm a right arsey miserable bastard these days.Me too, and it's years since I last smoked.
On the not sleeping front, when my colleague gave up earlier this year she used patches. She had to stop wearing one overnight because they were giving her really horrible dreams.
Is there any way you could avoid addiction to the nicotine tabs by reducing their intake progressively? Myself, I turned to pipe smoking at first which became very enjoyable (no inhaling) and breaking that habit was relatively easy compared to the cigs. It also improves your health risks :thumbsup:
Next up, when I can be arsed, is to make an accurate count of the number of tabs I'm using, with a view to reducing them.
As non smoker, I don't understand how you dont' inhale when pipe smoking - how does that work?
I never had any plans to stop the pipe smoking, it is enjoyable, tastes nice, very relaxing and may even help one to live longer.
I assumed that marbeaux meant that not inhaling isn't as bad as inhaling, and since he enjoyed the pipe smoking, he was able to give up the (more evil) ciggies.
It's something that possibly could help my son, since he seems to be incapable of stopping smoking (despite having serious health reasons for doing so).
It is accepted that there may be some oral risk in pipe smoking but in my lifetime of knowing some committed pipe smokers, I have never heard of any one of them getting oral cancer. My B.I.L now over 85 years has more trouble with his eyes, my Uncle didn't die of oral cancer but also had a problem with his vision. I don't think pipe smoking causes vision problems? and have never seen any such reports.
Smoking a pipe of your favourite tobacco is indeed very enjoyable and relaxing especially if you ever feel stressed for some reason. If one can stop using the weeds, there is still the risk of breathing problems later on and possibly a cancer free ending.
Nothing in life is sure but you can, at least, limit the risks a little.
;DIt is accepted that there may be some oral risk in pipe smoking but in my lifetime of knowing some committed pipe smokers, I have never heard of any one of them getting oral cancer. My B.I.L now over 85 years has more trouble with his eyes, my Uncle didn't die of oral cancer but also had a problem with his vision. I don't think pipe smoking causes vision problems? and have never seen any such reports.
Smoking a pipe of your favourite tobacco is indeed very enjoyable and relaxing especially if you ever feel stressed for some reason. If one can stop using the weeds, there is still the risk of breathing problems later on and possibly a cancer free ending.
Nothing in life is sure but you can, at least, limit the risks a little.
You do come out with some shit at times.
Reassuringly, the few occasions when I've "slipped" have not been enjoyable.
Well done Regulator, on completing a year!You could get Riggers to 'shop a photo of you with a pipe and see if it suits you.
I'm not doing too bad, though it's fair to say I do get more urges to grab a cig than I'd like at this point. Reassuringly, the few occasions when I've "slipped" have not been enjoyable.
Thanks for the thoughts, Marbeaux, but the pipe not a route I intend to go down for various reasons right now, mainly because I need to get away from the whole business of smoking anything.
Suits you, Sir! :PWell done Regulator, on completing a year!You could get Riggers to 'shop a photo of you with a pipe and see if it suits you.
I'm not doing too bad, though it's fair to say I do get more urges to grab a cig than I'd like at this point. Reassuringly, the few occasions when I've "slipped" have not been enjoyable.
Thanks for the thoughts, Marbeaux, but the pipe not a route I intend to go down for various reasons right now, mainly because I need to get away from the whole business of smoking anything.
I forgot to mark it but on 9 August I passed the milestone of a year smoke free.Congratulations, Regulator, here's to many more!
Back on track now.One day at a time. :thumbsup:
Funny you should mention that, matthew, as, yes, I have fallen off the wagon again and am desperately trying to grab a rope to climb back on.
Good stuff matey :) glad to see you're still going strong!
I think I am at the stage where I can either stop soon or I might as well carry on for the rest of my days.
I keep hoping for some stand-out date but they all pass by in a haze of Marlboro smoke.
How did the ex-smokers among you pick a date for an attempt?
Now then, vapers. If any? I think I need to think about stopping the vaping. I have been cautious about this as I do not want any risk of feeling an urge to return to cigarettes. However, I think I am now about a 7/10 and rising on the hatred of cigarette smoke scale and I feel that it would take something quite major to encourage me to restart.
A few months ago, I did try reducing the strength of the e-juice to 3 from 12 which was fine, but I definitely vaped more to compensate. I think this will be a cold turkey job. Has anyone else switched to e-cigarettes then stopped completely?
Gradual steps is what you want. 12-6-3-0 with about 3-4 weeks in between. Then I'd recommend having a 20mg or something like our Phix on standby so that if you have the urge after not vaping it'll be like smoking a Marlboro red with no filter.
Just looking back at this. In 2 weeks I will have been completely off cigarettes for a year. Vaping was the answer for me, although I am tailing off on that too - gradually.
It only took me another 8 years to get around to it.I think I am at the stage where I can either stop soon or I might as well carry on for the rest of my days.
I keep hoping for some stand-out date but they all pass by in a haze of Marlboro smoke.
How did the ex-smokers among you pick a date for an attempt?
Yes, I'm also planning o stop smoking and also thinking of vaping.. any cons about vaping?
Yes, I'm also planning o stop smoking and also thinking of vaping.. any cons about vaping?I'm not militantly anti-vaping, but:
Yes, I'm also planning o stop smoking and also thinking of vaping.. any cons about vaping?
Also - you may look a bit of a twat.
My approach to Paul’s list of cons:Just to be clear, mine was a list of cons for vaping, not pros for smoking. I would agree that vaping is probably better all around than smoking.
Yes, I'm also planning o stop smoking and also thinking of vaping.. any cons about vaping?
You’ll find, as you approach the idea of stopping smoking, that the addiction works in strange ways, such as considering the possible downsides of things that you do not actually yet do ;)
On the subject of health consequences of vaping, I think it is much too early to say. Consider how long it would take, if tobacco smoking was invented today, for the effects to express themselves. However, on balance, I think it is reasonable to believe that if all else fails vaping for a period of time offers a valid method to allow yourself time to leave the various habit-forming aspects of cigarette smoking behind. My own view is that the risks can be kept as low as possible by reducing the amount of material vaped by 1) sticking to mouth-to-lung vaping and 2) minimising the intake of the substances most likely to eventually be shown to be harmful - the flavourings - by using unflavoured e-liquid. The evidence seems to indicate that vaping nicotine itself and the PG or VG base are unlikely to be harmful. So that’s what I do most of the time.
Hopefully I’ll knock it on the head in the fullness of time. For now I am just glad to be not smoking tobacco.
My approach to Paul’s list of cons:
1. Don’t want to vape in the workplace any more than I wanted to smoke fags in work.
2. Costs, even including set-up costs, are minimal compared to smoking cigarettes.
3. Pockets: OK a vape is heavier than a packet of cigs, but it’s just not an issue. We all happily carry mobile phones, keys and what not.
4. See above - vaping is a means to an end and I like to think of it as a temporary measure.
5. It’s not still smoking.
6. Agree that it does not resolve the issue of nicotine addiction - but nicotine itself is the least of a smoker’s worries.
Good luck with your eventual attempt. When I see people smoking now, I feel no envy, only relief that I don’t “have to” do that anymore.
As a lucky non-smoker may I just say how much nicer the vape vapour is than tobacco smoke.
Yes, I'm also planning o stop smoking and also thinking of vaping.. any cons about vaping?
You’ll find, as you approach the idea of stopping smoking, that the addiction works in strange ways, such as considering the possible downsides of things that you do not actually yet do ;)
On the subject of health consequences of vaping, I think it is much too early to say. Consider how long it would take, if tobacco smoking was invented today, for the effects to express themselves. However, on balance, I think it is reasonable to believe that if all else fails vaping for a period of time offers a valid method to allow yourself time to leave the various habit-forming aspects of cigarette smoking behind. My own view is that the risks can be kept as low as possible by reducing the amount of material vaped by 1) sticking to mouth-to-lung vaping and 2) minimising the intake of the substances most likely to eventually be shown to be harmful - the flavourings - by using unflavoured e-liquid. The evidence seems to indicate that vaping nicotine itself and the PG or VG base are unlikely to be harmful. So that’s what I do most of the time.
Hopefully I’ll knock it on the head in the fullness of time. For now I am just glad to be not smoking tobacco.
My approach to Paul’s list of cons:
1. Don’t want to vape in the workplace any more than I wanted to smoke fags in work.
2. Costs, even including set-up costs, are minimal compared to smoking cigarettes.
3. Pockets: OK a vape is heavier than a packet of cigs, but it’s just not an issue. We all happily carry mobile phones, keys and what not.
4. See above - vaping is a means to an end and I like to think of it as a temporary measure.
5. It’s not still smoking.
6. Agree that it does not resolve the issue of nicotine addiction - but nicotine itself is the least of a smoker’s worries.
Good luck with your eventual attempt. When I see people smoking now, I feel no envy, only relief that I don’t “have to” do that anymore.
Well, I still think it's better compared to smoking. The only concern now are videos of vapes exploding. Any recommendations of brands that is safe enough?
I couldn't get down to see you, Sam. So I went to Tesco instead and got set up for 20 quid.
Nothing adventurous and it's very early days but I haven't smoked a fag in 30+ hours. I've stopped coughing. We'll see how it goes.
A full 5 days without a cigarette.
Vaping seems to be working - although a spare battery for the vaporiser might be a good idea. An hour on charge yesterday afternoon and I was close to chewing on a tyre . . .
FFS! I was up to around 80 quid a week on fags...
As an ex smoker (13 years) you can say all you like about nicotine, ritual, force of habit, etc. but there's no getting away from the fact that cigs are really nice.
As an ex smoker (13 years) you can say all you like about nicotine, ritual, force of habit, etc. but there's no getting away from the fact that cigs are really nice.
As an ex smoker (13 years) you can say all you like about nicotine, ritual, force of habit, etc. but there's no getting away from the fact that cigs are really nice. That's the only reason why it's so many times better to have never smoked, because you don't know how nice they are.
I couldn't stand filters during my latter years of smoking but a roll up is lovely.
I'm off the baccy again, which is evident from my strava times, a situation that will probably persist until the auditors come to visit again, I see a pattern here ::-) This is going to be a lifetime battle.It took me more than 20 years (I don't know how many attempts) to give up. I made regular attempts. Keep at it. If my experience is anything to go by (20 months clean and not missing it a bit), it will eventually stick.
Fuck. Accepted and smoked two fagsinoutside the pub tonight.
Now 7 weeks off vaping, after doing that since stopping smoking 3 years 7 months ago.
not worth smoking. this is the most ungrateful thing you can do with yourself. more problems but no use. to quit I advise you the book of Allan Carr. how to quit smoking quickly. he writes well and intelligibly. should help youAll of the red lights on the wall behind me have started flashing.
I think I am at the stage where I can either stop soon or I might as well carry on for the rest of my days.
I keep hoping for some stand-out date but they all pass by in a haze of Marlboro smoke.
How did the ex-smokers among you pick a date for an attempt?