Author Topic: ALPI 4000  (Read 3438 times)

Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2017, 07:10:20 am »
Couldn't resist - I'm in!
The other Robw, not the wobbly one

Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2017, 12:21:59 pm »
Found this interesting link on a facebook search:

https://www.relive.cc/view/r9106012108/explore

No idea if accurate ITO have route. Not found a GPX, but did reply on FB whether there was one.
The other Robw, not the wobbly one

Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #52 on: October 30, 2017, 12:51:01 pm »
Phew! Just got in #426. I have already booked an entry for the Tour d'Etape on the 8th July and as I will be retired by then, the time in between that and the 4000 is my own.
I did the Stelvio when I did TCR02, so I had the ride from London in my legs and didn't find it too bad, just long and bloody cold at the top - it was raining hard. It was tricky going back down the same way, I had just put on new brake blocks and they were almost completely useless in the wet, so I went off the end of the first hairpin - harmless but tiresome, thus I had to take it really slow until the bends ended.
My events: 18th Feb 2018 Willesden Reliability; 1st July 2018 3 Audaxes from Maidenhead; 8th Sep 2018 3Down

Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #53 on: October 31, 2017, 05:20:12 am »
It was tricky going back down the same way, I had just put on new brake blocks and they were almost completely useless in the wet, so I went off the end of the first hairpin - harmless but tiresome, thus I had to take it really slow until the bends ended.

I switched to discs for TCR05 - didn't fancy combination of steep descents, wet, possibly dark, hands weakened with palsey, and heavily laden bike. Also wore through a set of pads part way and had to put spare set in. Bike should be a bit less loaded for Alpi 4000, but will still carry spares given the hills we're going over
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αdαmsκι

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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2018, 09:43:16 pm »
I had an email earlier today this ride and so I'm now properly paid up; 190€ for the ride and 10€ for the bag drop. There was also an optional jersey (45€), but the design didn't inspire me enough to add to my collection.

What on earth am I doing here on this beautiful day?! This is the only life I've got!!

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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2018, 09:57:27 pm »
Before i pay can anyone offer any advice on the medical note required for the entry,
It appears more than just a scribbled note from a friendly GP is required, cheers.

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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2018, 09:59:26 pm »
I noted the medical thing and figured I'd deal with that when the time arrives....... I know that is a totally unhelpful answer!
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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2018, 07:31:04 am »
The law has changed in Italy a few years back. These days for any organised bicycle ride exceeding 20 km, a full medical is needed, which has to include an ECG. The old doctor's note is no longer enough.
How this is administered to foreign riders is more of a mystery. Some events have forms that you can download and pass on to your GP.

Anyway, it is a ballache, although I appreciate the good intentions

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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2018, 10:24:08 am »
Cheers. That does indeed sound like a right faff.  Hey ho, I guess it'll just mean paying a silly amount of money in order to gain that sorted ::-).
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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2018, 11:05:52 am »
Cheers. That does indeed sound like a right faff.  Hey ho, I guess it'll just mean paying a silly amount of money in order to gain that sorted ::-).

It might not be that bad. It's the same for the Eroica and I haven't heard much moaning on forums about it, which means possibly foreigners get away lightly. Ultimately it is down to your GP to sign the form and some GPs might be satisfied that you meet the requirements without having to go through a full medical. You don't have to physically submit your ECG for scrutiny from the organiser.
Equally, it might well be that your GP doesn't want to sign it or requests that you undergo an ECG at your own expense.

As always in these cases, the last resort is forgery, which has been common practice for years in events like "La Marmotte" but we don't talk about it...  ;D

Pete Mas

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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2018, 12:41:32 pm »
Cheers. That does indeed sound like a right faff.  Hey ho, I guess it'll just mean paying a silly amount of money in order to gain that sorted ::-).

It might not be that bad. It's the same for the Eroica and I haven't heard much moaning on forums about it, which means possibly foreigners get away lightly. Ultimately it is down to your GP to sign the form and some GPs might be satisfied that you meet the requirements without having to go through a full medical. You don't have to physically submit your ECG for scrutiny from the organiser.
Equally, it might well be that your GP doesn't want to sign it or requests that you undergo an ECG at your own expense.

As always in these cases, the last resort is forgery, which has been common practice for years in events like "La Marmotte" but we don't talk about it...  ;D

I agree. It wasn't too bad with a similar ride in the series ( 999 Miles )last year. I downloaded a medical form template from the Eroica website called 'Health Certificate for cardiovascular intensive sport activity (cycling races/events). 'The subject , according to clinical investigations carried out, doesn't present any contraindication related to sport to cardiovascular intensive activity. (cycling races/events).' The doctor, who knows my history of entering insane cycling events, charged about £30 to sign. It was accepted without question when scanned across.
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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2018, 02:33:50 pm »
I did my own doctors note last year, worked no problem  :thumbsup:

No need worry, no medical needed.

Pete Mas

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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2018, 04:05:48 pm »
I did my own doctors note last year, worked no problem  :thumbsup:

No need worry, no medical needed.

I wasn't going to say that - in case the organisers view this forum... ;)
''It is better to travel hopefully than to arrive."

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Jack_P (Burlycross)

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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2018, 06:27:06 pm »
so sounds like last years (other) event in this series was happy with a scanned form, good to know  :thumbsup:

Pete Mas

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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2018, 08:15:18 pm »
I just looked at the Registration Form link for this year's event, and the medical form we have to get completed is available as a link there, and is also very similar in wording to the Eroica one I quoted in my post above.
''It is better to travel hopefully than to arrive."

R.L.Stevenson

Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2018, 05:22:48 pm »
Just finished completing my registration and have payment confirmation. Really easy and straightforward!
There’s always a way to get the ‘right’ medical certificate! :thumbsup:
More of a logistical problem is getting to Bormio, from any of the three airports near Milan! ::-)

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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #66 on: Today at 01:16:27 pm »
I was playing with the idea of cycling out... Google's not much good for route planning though.... apparently a lot of the direct roads to Bormio are closed at the moment for some reason.

So much for Swiss efficiency!