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Title: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 10 June, 2010, 12:34:33 am
Well, that was an unexpected plot twist!  :o

I'll put the rest of this post in spoiler tags just in case anyone reading this is waiting for the Sunday omnibus...

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d.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: her_welshness on 10 June, 2010, 08:14:03 am
Yes it did come as a real surprise.

On another Archers topic,why does Jude (Pip's boyfriend) sound about 50 years old? I know that he is meant to be older than her but not that much older - it sounds like a more senior actor trying to be cool and/or the character of Jude is a bit of a dickhead.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: LindaG on 10 June, 2010, 08:15:39 am
Yeah, a real shocker!  It came on as I was driving to work, and I nearly made myself late hanging on for the end.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 10 June, 2010, 08:24:32 am
Oh don't get me started on Jude... I am so on David's side on that subject.

d.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 10 June, 2010, 08:31:12 am
On a point of interest...

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Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Charlotte on 10 June, 2010, 08:41:17 am
Great episode - for once I actually listened rather than just had it on.  For me, The Archers is more of a soothing background to pottering at home than it is entertainment.  That's not to say I don't like it - I just don't see it the way I see any other kind of drama.

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Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: clarion on 10 June, 2010, 09:12:18 am
Yes, that was a shocker.  I had no idea.  Heard it while at work the night before, then again yesterday afternoon.  Well handled, though, I think. 
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Riggers on 10 June, 2010, 09:34:43 am
I missed it. Was it a 'drive by' shooting?

The one that gets me is Jezzer.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 10 June, 2010, 10:22:27 am
The one that gets me is Jezzer.

What on earth is his accent supposed to be? It's even more inconsistent than Russell Crowe's Robin Hood. I was surprised to discover that the actor who plays him is genuinely Scottish.

d.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: her_welshness on 10 June, 2010, 12:00:00 pm
The one that gets me is Jezzer.

What on earth is his accent supposed to be? It's even more inconsistent than Russell Crowe's Robin Hood. I was surprised to discover that the actor who plays him is genuinely Scottish.

d.


Well I was convinced  :-[

Oh and another thing: Matt sounds so much younger than Marion.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 10 June, 2010, 12:11:21 pm
Who's Marion?  Do you mean Lillian?

Re-  Wowbagger's hidden comment re- closing music. Didn't there used to be the 'Doom' version of the signature tune, saved for momentous closing events or cliffhangers?  I specifically remember it following a strangled 'Arrgh' from Tom Forrrest when he was attacked by what was supposed to be the Ambridge hob-hound, which which turned out, several episodes later,  to be nothing more than a lynx.  Unless I've completely got it wrong it consisted of a few bars of dramatic chords before giving segue-ing into the usual bouncy tumty-tum-ti-tum-tu-tum...
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: mattc on 10 June, 2010, 12:19:36 pm
The one that gets me is Jezzer.

What on earth is his accent supposed to be? It's even more inconsistent than Russell Crowe's Robin Hood. I was surprised to discover that the actor who plays him is genuinely Scottish.

To me it's always sounded quite consistent, just bloody strange. I too am amazed if the actor speaks like that normally.

This will probably be another example of the Grossman phenomenon - we all thought Loyd was unique, but apparently his entire home-town talk like that!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Bledlow on 10 June, 2010, 02:32:07 pm
Oh and another thing: Matt sounds so much younger than Marion.
Lillian was born 8th July 1947. Matt's exact age doesn't seem to have been made public.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 10 June, 2010, 02:37:01 pm
To me it's always sounded quite consistent, just bloody strange.

It's consistent in that he pronounces the same word the same way every time, but there's no internal consistency - he employs a wider range of phonemes than I thought it was humanly possible to produce.

d.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: numbnuts on 10 June, 2010, 03:09:27 pm
Coming home after kayaking my mate said to me "can I have the radio on" what on said I "the Archers of course" so I had to drive in silence for the next few miles  ::-)
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: oncemore on 10 June, 2010, 03:54:16 pm
Very rarely miss an episode - yes. yes, I know. Altho' i cannot of course prove this, I was not the least surprised by the event.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: her_welshness on 10 June, 2010, 05:30:12 pm
Sorry Nuncio, yes Lillian. Sorry!  :-[
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 10 June, 2010, 07:11:25 pm
I missed it. Was it a 'drive by' shooting?

The one that gets me is Jezzer.

I thought Jezzer was a former YACF member.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: clarion on 10 June, 2010, 09:22:30 pm
Jazzer is the Archers character.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Jaded on 10 June, 2010, 11:17:20 pm
Whilst Jizzer performs in other artistic enterprises.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 11 June, 2010, 12:24:13 am

Re-  Wowbagger's hidden comment re- closing music. Didn't there used to be the 'Doom' version of the signature tune, saved for momentous closing events or cliffhangers?  I specifically remember it following a strangled 'Arrgh' from Tom Forrrest when he was attacked by what was supposed to be the Ambridge hob-hound, which which turned out, several episodes later,  to be nothing more than a lynx.  Unless I've completely got it wrong it consisted of a few bars of dramatic chords before giving segue-ing into the usual bouncy tumty-tum-ti-tum-tu-tum...

Yes, there was, but The Beetle (1) has decreed it shall not be heard again. And We Don't Do Melodrama on The Archers either.


1  The Editor is Vanessa Whitburn. Can you see why she's called The Beetle?  Or more often "The Beetle Must Go".
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Riggers on 11 June, 2010, 08:37:56 am
Both Jezzer and Jazzer annoy me. I think Jizzer's okay though.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 11 June, 2010, 12:15:50 pm
The Editor is Vanessa Whitburn. Can you see why she's called The Beetle? 

No.  I'm turning over the words dung, stag,  Colorado, scarab and antrobus in my mind but none of them seem to fit. 
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: clarion on 11 June, 2010, 01:18:10 pm
How does Mrs Antrobus come into it? ???
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 11 June, 2010, 01:20:56 pm
How does Mrs Antrobus come into it? ???

I'd forgotten about her. Didn't she get packed off to the Laurels, ie where Jack Woolley is now? How come Peggy hasn't mentioned seeing her there?

d.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Regulator on 11 June, 2010, 01:51:49 pm
Ah Marjorie... for some reason I always saw her in my mind's eye as a mix between Barbara Woodhouse and Rosemary Schrager.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 June, 2010, 01:57:34 pm
The Editor is Vanessa Whitburn. Can you see why she's called The Beetle? 

No.  I'm turning over the words dung, stag,  Colorado, scarab and antrobus in my mind but none of them seem to fit. 

I think, initially, you should look again.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: dkahn400 on 11 June, 2010, 02:01:06 pm
The Editor is Vanessa Whitburn. Can you see why she's called The Beetle? 

No.  I'm turning over the words dung, stag,  Colorado, scarab and antrobus in my mind but none of them seem to fit. 

I think, initially, you should look again.

Remember, it's a tale of country volks.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: clarion on 11 June, 2010, 02:09:48 pm
What could be camper?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: LindaG on 11 June, 2010, 03:01:55 pm
I hear she likes a good walk, spoiled.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: clarion on 11 June, 2010, 03:13:56 pm
Stop Rabbiting on.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 11 June, 2010, 03:18:53 pm
Enough - I've got it.  Let it pass.  At once.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 June, 2010, 03:21:34 pm
I didn't think they had the power to pass anything.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Bledlow on 13 June, 2010, 11:19:26 pm
How does Mrs Antrobus come into it? ???

I'd forgotten about her. Didn't she get packed off to the Laurels, ie where Jack Woolley is now? How come Peggy hasn't mentioned seeing her there?

d.
Because she's been dead for a couple of years. They turned her off after the actress who played her died.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 13 June, 2010, 11:34:57 pm
Because she's been dead for a couple of years. They turned her off after the actress who played her died.

I did wonder if that was the case, but I don't remember her dying. I looked it up on the official BBC Archers website and there's no mention of her demise, so I assumed probably not.

Silly me - assuming anything on the BBC website is up to date and accurate...  ::-)

d.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Biff on 14 June, 2010, 01:58:41 pm
Surprised they haven't commented on the coalition govt given who Kenton's (Richard Attlee) grandpa was  :)
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: robbo6 on 21 June, 2010, 11:21:10 pm
Who's Marion?  Do you mean Lillian?

...it consisted of a few bars of dramatic chords before giving segue-ing into the usual bouncy tumty-tum-ti-tum-tu-tum...

A few years ago one of the producers in an interview said they were not going to use that part of the tune again as it is "too melodramatic".
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 02 January, 2011, 01:24:29 pm
OK, place your bets now for tonight's shock 60th anniversary revelations...

I reckon Harry is finally going to reveal himself to be an al Qaeda terrorist and blow up the village...

Slightly more seriously, I have a hunch Tony won't be with us much longer - I suspect it's the only way they can resolve the tedious Helen plotline.

d.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Jaded on 02 January, 2011, 01:31:54 pm
Grey Gables is going to burn down and Helen will choke on a piece of crack cocaine.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Basil on 02 January, 2011, 03:33:20 pm
Yes, Tony's going to have a full on break down. 
The depression is being subtly ramped up over the last two days, culminating with Tom(?) discovering him in a state of confusion trying to fix the yard tractor at silly o'clock on new years eve.
 
Either that or they'll in for the Tony Hancock version.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: robgul on 02 January, 2011, 08:26:18 pm
Yes, Tony's going to have a full on break down. 
The depression is being subtly ramped up over the last two days, culminating with Tom(?) discovering him in a state of confusion trying to fix the yard tractor at silly o'clock on new years eve.
 
Either that or they'll in for the Tony Hancock version.

My "sealed bid" in our household had 2 options :  Tony committing suicide, or Nigel dying somehow.

Well, we know it wasn't the former ... but we don't know yet if it's the latter ... he could, as I write, be dangling from the banner caught in the gutters that need clearing out ....

Rob
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Bledlow on 02 January, 2011, 08:52:09 pm
... Helen will choke ...
If only! Taken over from Linda Snell as most annoying character.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 02 January, 2011, 08:54:44 pm
I suppose there were a few clues that it was going to be something involving Nigel, he says with the benefit of hindsight.

Once they went up on the roof, there was only going to be one outcome.

d.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Jaded on 02 January, 2011, 09:09:19 pm
He screamed a long time, so I'd guess he'll only need a 3 foot coffin.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: vorsprung on 02 January, 2011, 09:14:43 pm
Audioboo / The Nigel Scream, SATTC, The Archers (please forgive me Beeb) (http://audioboo.fm/boos/247866-the-nigel-scream-sattc-the-archers-please-forgive-me-beeb)

good riddance  ;D
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 January, 2011, 09:14:59 pm
I suppose there were a few clues that it was going to be something involving Nigel, he says with the benefit of hindsight.

Once they went up on the roof, there was only going to be one outcome.

d.


I thought they both might have come tumbling down.

Mind you, if David has to stay up there until tomorrow evening's episode he could easily die of hypothermia.

I'm inclining towards the wheelchair outcome. People can survive some quite big falls. Of course his chances are better than if he'd fallen off the roof of Higher Loxley...
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: JenM on 02 January, 2011, 10:38:26 pm
Episode should have ended with the song "Making plans for Nigel".
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 02 January, 2011, 11:42:38 pm

Mind you, if David has to stay up there until tomorrow evening's episode he could easily die of hypothermia.


David nearly died of hypothermia before, when he got squashed by a cow in a ditch, again at New Year. Phil had to drag him out.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: mattc on 02 January, 2011, 11:59:13 pm
I suppose there were a few clues that it was going to be something involving Nigel, he says with the benefit of hindsight.

Once they went up on the roof, there was only going to be one outcome.

d.


I thought they both might have come tumbling down.

Mind you, if David has to stay up there until tomorrow evening's episode he could easily die of hypothermia.

I'm inclining towards the wheelchair outcome. People can survive some quite big falls. Of course his chances are better than if he'd fallen off the roof of Higher Loxley...
I'm not an expert in this field, but helpfully the R4 News kept me posted after the show:

... it was not made clear whether Nigel survived the fall.

This has been a Public Service Post. Goodnight.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Arch on 03 January, 2011, 07:19:53 pm

Mind you, if David has to stay up there until tomorrow evening's episode he could easily die of hypothermia.


David nearly died of hypothermia before, when he got squashed by a cow in a ditch, again at New Year. Phil had to drag him out.

I was going to say that!

I think he cracked a rib in the process (David, not Phil).

He and Ruth (oh no!) were going through a sticky patch at the time, but it was long before Sam the cowman.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Thor on 03 January, 2011, 07:38:11 pm
It was discussed on PM (R4) today that Nigel's status, between yesterday's episode and today's, was analogous to that of Schrödinger's cat.   ;D
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Arch on 03 January, 2011, 08:05:41 pm
It was discussed on PM (R4) today that Nigel's status, between yesterday's episode and today's, was analogous to that of Schrödinger's cat.   ;D

I love Radio 4. ;D
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Regulator on 04 January, 2011, 12:47:06 pm
Oh dear.

The Archers fans are in uproar.  Vanessa Redburn let slip that there was to be a 'funeral' in a forthcoming episode.

No more Nigel*...  :'(  :'(






*Unless there is a hasty rewrite to cover up the slip.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Bledlow on 04 January, 2011, 12:48:04 pm
It was discussed on PM (R4) today that Nigel's status, between yesterday's episode and today's, was analogous to that of Schrödinger's cat.   ;D

I love Radio 4. ;D
Yes, lovely, isn't it?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: clarion on 04 January, 2011, 01:20:33 pm
No more Nigel :D
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: pcolbeck on 04 January, 2011, 01:24:27 pm
That's a 50% decrease in smugness then.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 04 January, 2011, 04:14:43 pm
Oh dear.

The Archers fans are in uproar.  Vanessa Redburn let slip that there was to be a 'funeral' in a forthcoming episode.

No more Nigel*...  :'(  :'(






*Unless there is a hasty rewrite to cover up the slip.

Too late for a rewrite - he was dead by last night.

Apparently VW said on PM a 'birth and a death' was 'iconic'.  When the interviewer sugested that she had given the game away she replied that  she had said a 'birth and a potential death'.  Very unconvincing.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Arch on 04 January, 2011, 07:10:07 pm
Oh dear.

The Archers fans are in uproar.  Vanessa Redburn let slip that there was to be a 'funeral' in a forthcoming episode.

No more Nigel*...  :'(  :'(






*Unless there is a hasty rewrite to cover up the slip.

Too late for a rewrite - he was dead by last night.

Apparently VW said on PM a 'birth and a death' was 'iconic'.  When the interviewer sugested that she had given the game away she replied that  she had said a 'birth and a potential death'.  Very unconvincing.

I didn't hear that, but frankly it seemed pretty obvious what had happened. A death is THE big soap storyline - with adultery a close second. How we were glued to the radio a few years back when it was Brian and Siobhan, and Jenny finding out....

Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Ham on 04 January, 2011, 08:36:40 pm
I don't listen any more, but I =DO= remember the old Nigel, far more fun.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: oncemore on 04 January, 2011, 08:41:36 pm
While of course the class enemy he was one of the more "fun" characters - but I shall continue listening every day!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 04 January, 2011, 08:41:59 pm
Dez was telling me that the old Nigel and the new one were the same person, with someone else having a brief spell in between.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Ham on 04 January, 2011, 08:44:25 pm
Dez was telling me that the old Nigel and the new one were the same person, with someone else having a brief spell in between.

Maybe, as I was never an AA, but the scripting went wet.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 05 January, 2011, 12:48:16 am
The same actor played him for the last 30 years. But I agree with Ham - the character changed in recent years, even if the actor didn't. Even before he got the role as Lynda's panto dame, he was somewhat camper than of old.

d.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: delthebike on 07 January, 2011, 01:52:06 pm
Someone has worked out, using the length of the fall scream, that Lower Loxley Hall, or what ever the building that NP fell from, is 20 stories high!

No doubt that the inside is actually used as a multi storey car park for all the Land/Range Rovers that the farm has.  ::-)  :P
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Basil on 07 January, 2011, 01:56:00 pm
Someone has worked out, using the length of the fall scream, that Lower Loxley Hall, or what ever the building that NP fell from, is 20 stories high!

No doubt that the inside is actually used as a multi storey car park for all the Land/Range Rovers that the farm has.  ::-)  :P

Yes, I heard that on R4 just now too. 
I had wondered about the length of the scream myself.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Dez on 07 January, 2011, 03:41:45 pm
BBC iPlayer - More or Less: 07/01/2011 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00x44l1/More_or_Less_07_01_2011/) from 5:30
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Thor on 07 January, 2011, 04:00:06 pm
Someone has worked out, using the length of the fall scream, that Lower Loxley Hall, or what ever the building that NP fell from, is 20 stories high!

No doubt that the inside is actually used as a multi storey car park for all the Land/Range Rovers that the farm has.  ::-)  :P

Yes, I heard that on R4 just now too. 
I had wondered about the length of the scream myself.

Mrs Thor - more of an Archers fan than I - suggests that he started to scream when he slipped, but only plummeted earthwards after skidding along the roof for a bit.  This may suggest fewer storeys.  ;)
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Riggers on 07 January, 2011, 05:16:22 pm
Someone has worked out, using the length of the fall scream, that Lower Loxley Hall, or what ever the building that NP fell from, is 20 stories high!

No doubt that the inside is actually used as a multi storey car park for all the Land/Range Rovers that the farm has.  ::-)  :P

Yes, I heard that on R4 just now too.  
I had wondered about the length of the scream myself.


I wondered about that too. I guess he fell through a space/time hole, and will end up back on the programme same time next year, crashing onto the roof with a elongated scream announcing his arrival.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: clarion on 07 January, 2011, 05:28:38 pm
For those who had been listening, Nigel had climbed further up the roof to free off the end of the banner.  He screamed as he slid...
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 February, 2011, 08:42:27 am
 Archers addict Camilla makes Ambridge cameo | Television & radio | The Guardian  (http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/feb/02/archers-addict-camilla-ambridge-cameo)

How nauseating. Will David Archer push her off the roof?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: harvey on 03 February, 2011, 08:52:37 am
Archers addict Camilla makes Ambridge cameo | Television & radio | The Guardian  (http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/feb/02/archers-addict-camilla-ambridge-cameo)

How nauseating. Will David Archer push her off the roof?

I hope so!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: iakobski on 03 July, 2011, 07:37:26 am
So bicycles have featured three times in the Archers this year. Lynda Snell breaking down in the cold and dark on a country lane; Harry & Zofia on a bridleway; Harry getting knocked off by a car.

So that's one out of three for cycling being safe and enjoyable...
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: mattc on 04 July, 2011, 10:52:46 am
Ambridge Extra, few days ago:
teenagers crashed their flash car whilst attempting to intimidate "Lycra Geeks"  :thumbsup:

Despite this, I have no intention of listening to the programme ever again..
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 04 July, 2011, 10:58:15 am
Harry being a keen cyclist was one of the big features of his character when he first joined the cast. Before he moved to Ambridge, he cycled over from Borchester to do his milk round every day. I thought that was a strong, positive message, especially in the context of the difference between his character and that of the unsympathetic layabout Jazzer.

And Lynda has always used her bike as her main means of getting around the village. I guess it only gets mentioned when it becomes a plot point.

Anyway, I gave up the Archers a few months ago. It was just getting too irritating.

d.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 04 March, 2012, 10:44:14 am
Anyone else having three heart attacks in one week would have died, but not bloody Tony Archer.  >:(
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Arch on 04 March, 2012, 11:01:39 am
It's all that righteous organic veg he eats...
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Ariadne on 04 March, 2012, 11:07:59 am
Ha, funny you should bring this up, because I was just reading the #thearchers feed on Twitter and laughing - it's amazing the different perceptions of one story. I'm fed up listening to Tony's sighing and whinging and would gladly have seen the back of him - but there's loads of people who hate Tom and feel sorry for his put-upon Dad. 
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 04 March, 2012, 11:09:55 am
For someone living out in the Styx, the ambulance didn't half get there quickly.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Arch on 04 March, 2012, 11:22:35 am
For someone living out in the Styx, the ambulance didn't half get there quickly.

I think the Borsetshire Ambulance Trust has a vehicle that roams the Ambridge area specially, because of the high incident rate.

Actually, from what I've heard about the number of accidents on farms, I wonder if The Archers are actually below the national average. It's not often anyone gets their leg caught in a slurry screw (a thing I saw on Helicopter Heroes).
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Gandalf on 04 March, 2012, 06:55:51 pm
Ha, funny you should bring this up, because I was just reading the #thearchers feed on Twitter and laughing - it's amazing the different perceptions of one story. I'm fed up listening to Tony's sighing and whinging and would gladly have seen the back of him - but there's loads of people who hate Tom and feel sorry for his put-upon Dad. 

I regard Tom as a git of the first order, really gets on my wick.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 July, 2012, 02:16:17 pm
There's just been some awfully dramatic-sounding shouting coming from the radio in the other room. Something to do with someone called Josh? I must ask Mrs Wow and catch up on the last 6 months or so.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Ariadne on 12 July, 2012, 02:35:45 pm
Both Josh and George - next generation of Ambridge residents roasted to a crisp?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Regulator on 12 July, 2012, 06:32:48 pm
For someone living out in the Styx, the ambulance didn't half get there quickly.

There's an 8 minute response time target for all Cat A calls - irrespective of where you are.  In fact, sometimes you'll get an ambulance more quickly in rural areas that in urban areas, as they have less traffic to contend with.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Efrogwr on 12 July, 2012, 08:38:49 pm
It is alleged that a Yorkshireman was "responsible" for the First Big Fire In Ambridge.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: pcolbeck on 12 July, 2012, 09:57:22 pm
Well they had me going. They kept banging on about teh extra gas bottles, I was sure there would be a huge explosion but they were just a red herring in the plot.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 July, 2012, 10:01:04 pm
However, whoever witnessed the arsonist running away mentioned that he tripped and fell when crossing a field. He will, at that moment, have left some vital clue behind which will reveal his, and his accomplices' identity. Justice will take its course.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Arch on 12 July, 2012, 10:22:34 pm
Both Josh and George - next generation of Ambridge residents roasted to a crisp?

I was sure one of them was a goner, fallen prey to that awkward child actor stage where on telly they'd go on holiday for three years and come back with a different head.

Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: FatBloke on 12 July, 2012, 10:24:15 pm
It's not real you know! It's only actors in a studio! Never been near a farm most of them!   :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 12 July, 2012, 11:14:07 pm
Not real?

It's a FOTWD, innit.  With hidden micropohones.


Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Arch on 30 July, 2012, 07:15:37 pm
OMG!

Vicky's up the duff!

 :o
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Basil on 30 July, 2012, 07:35:29 pm
Yay, Wooly/

Oh, sorry.

I'll get my jumper.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 28 November, 2012, 07:17:29 pm
The Archers, in order to show how aware the programme makers are, has within its virtual cast a bovine named Wiggo. Ruth Archer used its name four times within a 5-minute spell at lunch time today.

I'm not certain, but I think that this may be the first time in over 150 years of the Archers that there has been a cycling reference.
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Post by: L CC on 28 November, 2012, 07:24:11 pm
Not true. Linda Snell and Nigel Pargiter both utility cyclists.
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Post by: Wowbagger on 28 November, 2012, 07:28:47 pm
Not true. Linda Snell and Nigel Pargiter both utility cyclists.

The late Nigel Pargiter...
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 28 November, 2012, 07:37:13 pm
You're forgetting that before Caroline Bone settled down with Oliver Sterling she was considered the village bike.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 28 November, 2012, 09:18:07 pm
You're forgetting that before Caroline Bone settled down with Oliver Sterling she was considered the village bike.

Unfairly so. umra* would have it that Saint Shula shagged her way round the parish, starting with a roll in the hay with Encarta Neil Carter.


* a newsgroup m'lud, for the sort of people who might listen to The Archers.
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Post by: citoyen on 29 November, 2012, 12:00:28 pm
Isn't Harry the Saintly Milkman a cyclist? Before he moved in with Jazzer, he used to cycle over to Ambridge from Borchester to do his milk round.

I may be behind the times - I gave up listening to the Archers shortly after the demise of Nigel Pargeter, though I still hear it accidentally now and again and I knew about Wiggo the Cow. The recent storyline involving Lilian's odious son, Robert Snell's odious daughter, the odious Lilian and the odious Matt's odious half-brother is cringeworthy even by Archers standards.

On a tangential note, I've been reading EF Benson's brilliantly funny Mapp & Lucia books lately. My wife made the astute observation that Lynda Snell is clearly based on Lucia. When you realise this, it becomes painfully obvious.

d.
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Post by: Bledlow on 29 November, 2012, 12:12:09 pm
I recall mention of naughty mountain bikers upsetting walkers on some local hill.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 29 November, 2012, 12:59:04 pm
Isn't Harry the Saintly Milkman a cyclist? Before he moved in with Jazzer, he used to cycle over to Ambridge from Borchester to do his milk round.
True. He had pictures of lycra clad men on his bedroom wall. Except he's now left. Fallon had the hots for him big time and they went off on holibobs (with Jazzer and Kirsty) to see the Edinburgh fringe. But Fallon's van broke down near and old (male) college friend of Harry's. And Harry suddenly remembered he was gay and got together with his old college friend.

You'll be glad to know Fallon hasn't been adversely affected by this and is now shagging Rhys, the Welsh barman.

Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 29 November, 2012, 01:11:38 pm
... who also rides a bike.  He did last week anyway, or would have, had Fallon let him 'ride his bike on those lanes in the dark'.
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Post by: graculus on 29 November, 2012, 07:51:03 pm
I seem to recall a cycle race between Rhys and Harry that was cut short when a drunken teenager stole a car from outside the Bull and mowed the two of them down?
Title: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 29 November, 2012, 10:37:35 pm
Harry suddenly remembered he was gay

He was probably the only person in the whole of Ambridge who didn't know.

d.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 November, 2014, 10:45:47 am
I am currently on a State Visit to Ambridge (Mrs. Wow's Sunday morning fix) and the "relationship" between Helen and some bloke called Rob (or was it Richard?) has featured.

I am hereby predicting an Ambridge Murder. You read it here first...
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Pickled Onion on 02 November, 2014, 11:03:52 am
Last time there was a murder it was blocked at the last minute: http://ht.ly/CKIeX (http://ht.ly/CKIeX)

But anything could happen now, after the silly "dumped at the altar" story.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 03 November, 2014, 01:53:19 pm
Ah, while we're on matters Ambridge, Charlie Thomas. Did he and Adam have a night of unbridled wossname after the Hunt Ball?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 03 November, 2014, 01:57:28 pm
I heard some of the Archers yesterday for the first time in ages. Good grief. No wonder I gave it up.

Roy and Elizabeth?

ROY?

And ELIZABETH?

WTAF???
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 November, 2014, 02:27:43 pm
WTAF???

Yes, I believe they did.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Dibdib on 03 November, 2014, 04:10:02 pm
WTAF???

Yes, I believe they did.

Inna tent, no less, IIRC.  :o
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: pcolbeck on 04 November, 2014, 06:53:46 am
Sausage king Tom Archer went upstairs to Canada and will return as someone else.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29878050
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 04 November, 2014, 09:04:39 am
Poor Pat - first her husband, now her son too?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Ham on 14 November, 2014, 08:34:05 pm
I heard tonight's episode by accident, I don't think I have listened deliberatively in years. I somehow suspect I wasnt supposed to laugh.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Riggers on 03 December, 2014, 09:24:54 am
Is the bull that trampled Tony down the same one? Or has that been replaced yet? "Mooooooooo!" Hang on. Wait a minute. That's a different "Moo."
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 December, 2014, 11:20:06 am
Does the length of the moo indicate the distance the cow fell after it slipped off the roof?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Basil on 03 December, 2014, 12:17:26 pm
The Archers was on the radio and I was talking to at Mrs. B, as we drove down to Llandysul last Friday, about the fact that the reason Tom was in Canada is because the actor had been "sacked".  It seems the producers are not wanting to keep people who have grown into the cast list because they played a tiny child and then grew up with the role. 
Anyway, minutes after, "Tom" made a dramatic re-entrance.  Bit of a coincidence!

So, new actor
Completely diferent voice.
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Post by: Pickled Onion on 03 December, 2014, 01:26:16 pm
It seems the producers are not wanting to keep people who have grown into the cast list because they played a tiny child and then grew up with the role. 

Yes, apparently they prefer "proper" actors who've been to drama college and everything. What they seem to be doing in reality is populating the cast with plummy public school accents. Same thing happened to Pip, went to Uni, came back sounding 10 years older and 10 times posher.


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So, new actor
Completely different voice.

And he sounds almost the same as Charlie Thomas! Surely the first rule of radio drama is that the characters are distinguishable without the script having to repeat their name every second sentence?

Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 03 December, 2014, 01:45:04 pm
Same thing happened to Pip, went to Uni, came back sounding 10 years older and 10 times posher.

The latest incarnation of Pip is a vast improvement on the previous model - sounds much less drama school and even has a Regional Accent! (albeit not necessarily an authentic one, in true Archers fashion)

They'd better not replace Fallon. I don't know what it is about her voice but it works for me.
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Post by: geoff on 03 December, 2014, 02:01:20 pm
I think everyone's missing the point though: Isn't the elephant in the room (snug at the Bull etc etc),  that "The Archers" will simply self-destruct once Ruth (ooh noo) and David move off up to Northumbria? or will Tony return from hospital as a space-time-warping mystery being creating a wormhole between Ambridge (wherever in the westMidlands/Southwestern slurry-corridor that is) and the Cheviots?

I rant as an almost lifetime dipper in to theprogramme who can never ever tell WTF is going on ever.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Riggers on 05 March, 2015, 02:22:34 pm
Anyone been listening to this tripe rubbish bollocks er … mirror of everyday folk? I thought it was supposed to reflect, from an agricultural side of things, what's happening in 'real' life. So where else in Britain are we suffering from floods on a Biblical scale? From the microphonic wailing, gurgling, off-mic shouting … "Tom! He's drowned!!" "No I haven't!" "Ruth! Don't leave!!" it sounds curtains for one or two (fingers crossed more) members of the Archers!

Dun Dun Dah!!!!

So …  an excuse for an Editorial cull. Who will go!
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Post by: Pickled Onion on 07 March, 2015, 04:06:36 pm

So …  an excuse for an Editorial cull. Who will go!

With any luck the editorial team.

I thought The Archers had jumped the shark at the Tom & Brenda wedding, but this is taking the piss.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 March, 2016, 05:26:56 pm
I see that YACF, not having added to this thread for a year, is clearly missing out. What we urgently need to discuss is...

Rob Titchener.
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Post by: Tim Hall on 06 March, 2016, 05:39:22 pm
I see that YACF, not having added to this thread for a year, is clearly missing out. What we urgently need to discuss is...

Rob Titchener.

But it now seems his mother is as manipulative as he is. 
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Basil on 06 March, 2016, 05:58:30 pm
Nothing really to discuss.
A programme that has been part of my life for about 45 years is now so fucking irritating and crap that I've not bothered with it for about a year.  Can't see me bothering again.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: toontra on 06 March, 2016, 06:18:36 pm
The shark has been repeatedly jumped in the last couple of years, along with cramming in almost every soap cliche in the script-writers' manual.  But what did it for me was two new-commer middle-class brats Rex and Toby Fairbrother (again fresh from central casting) calling each other "bro". This must be the Archers appealing to the younger demographic... presumably.

The whole point about the Archers used to be that very little happened.  I preferred it that way.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 06 March, 2016, 06:53:27 pm
I haven't deliberately listened to the Archers for quite a while but my wife still listens so I catch it occasionally. The whole Rob Titchener storyline seems to be horribly plausible but I got bored of Helen and her horrible boyfriends a long time ago.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: robgul on 06 March, 2016, 07:27:04 pm
We tend to dip in and out of listening - the whole Rob Tichenor (and now his mother) thing is getting tiresome - it's gonna explode fairly soon but difficult to predict how.  Helen's father seems to be slowly, possibly getting the idea ... I think.

It's all a bit of an Archersfest here in Stratford-upon-Avon - David Troughton lives here as do the women who play Lillian and Kathy Perks ... and the former editor Vanessa Whitburn lived in the next street to us.

I guess we ought to be loyal listen more as my wife's maiden name was Philippa Archer - known to her family as Pip - yes, really - and when I met her she had a house (small, modern, in Solihull) called Brookfield  :)

Rob
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Post by: Ruthie on 06 March, 2016, 09:32:27 pm
The last time I listened to The Archers it was Panto time again  8)
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Post by: Dibdib on 07 March, 2016, 12:22:36 pm
The last time I listened to The Archers it was Panto time again  8)

Oh No It Wasn't! (sorry.)

I'm still occasionally persevering with The Archers, but usually the omnibuses rather than daily at seven. I agree that the Helen/Rob storyline is long overdue winding up and needs a resolution sooner rather than later, although I do think it's (on the whole) been well handled. As for Toby and Rex... before my time but wasn't there a similar reaction to the Grundys when they were introduced?
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Post by: Tim Hall on 03 April, 2016, 08:18:50 pm
Tonight's episode was quite disturbing.
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Post by: citoyen on 04 April, 2016, 10:10:51 am
I didn't hear it but I heard my wife's exclamations when she was listening to it.
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 April, 2016, 10:21:49 am
"They're all dead, Dave"
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Post by: Thor on 04 April, 2016, 10:46:32 am
Rob must be gutted.
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Post by: clarion on 04 April, 2016, 11:13:14 am
Quite upsetting. :(
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Riggers on 04 April, 2016, 04:59:17 pm
As you say … disturbing.

But, why is it I always seem to see the potential for humour. One (or perhaps it's just me) can imagine:

<Helen> "You B****** Rob"

<Rob> "Helen, stop! Is that today's Guardian? I haven't … Oof! Ouch! … read … that yet. Gerroff!"
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Post by: Dibdib on 04 April, 2016, 05:32:00 pm
Very difficult listening, and (in my opinion) not the best way to wrap up what's generally been a delicately handled storyline. To be honest I expected better.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 04 April, 2016, 05:49:37 pm

Very difficult listening, and (in my opinion) not the best way to wrap up what's generally been a delicately handled storyline. To be honest I expected better.
Yebbut - the continuation will be the arrest, the trial, and how the defence plays out.
She must be convicted of manslaughter (assuming he is actually dead) but I don't think a murder charge would fly.
Remember there is very little evidence of Evil Rob's character in the public domain (the several million witnesses can't be called - honest). It will take a bloody good legal team to string together the threads that  do exist to make up a credible defence.
That's the next slow burning cliff-hanger
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: hatler on 04 April, 2016, 05:51:41 pm
Yup. That's a little too final. There's a significant amount of material they've passed on if they had only allowed this one to run. With the added bonus of exploring a whole variety of additional abuse situations.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Mr Larrington on 04 April, 2016, 06:30:14 pm
People get murdered utterly to DETH in Horrid Cockneys Eastenders all the time and no-one bats an eyelid so why all the fuss about The Archers ???
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 04 April, 2016, 06:42:12 pm
Because we are an upper middle class farming community and we don't do that sort of thing!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 04 April, 2016, 06:45:57 pm
Because we are an upper middle class farming community and we don't do that sort of thing!

Deavid Archer is a serial killer though. Jethro and Nigel for starters. Actually just Jethro and Nigel.
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Post by: hatler on 04 April, 2016, 09:00:06 pm
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Post by: clarion on 04 April, 2016, 09:20:26 pm
Because we are an upper middle class farming community and we don't do that sort of thing!

Deavid Archer is a serial killer though. Jethro and Nigel for starters. Actually just Jethro and Nigel.
I can forgive the posho.
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Post by: robgul on 05 April, 2016, 08:15:21 am
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Did you really expect him to be dead - that was too much to hope for.

Watch out for the Daily Mail starting a campaign to release/forgive "the Ambridge one" when/if Helen gets banged up.

Rob
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Post by: Tim Hall on 05 April, 2016, 08:34:34 am
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Did you really expect him to be dead - that was too much to hope for.

Watch out for the Daily Mail starting a campaign to release/forgive "the Ambridge one" when/if Helen gets banged up.

Rob

There was just such a campaign, plus questions in The House by Michael Howard when Susan "Jailbird" Carter got sent down for harbouring a fugitive.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: toontra on 05 April, 2016, 09:32:22 am
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Did you really expect him to be dead - that was too much to hope for.

Watch out for the Daily Mail starting a campaign to release/forgive "the Ambridge one" when/if Helen gets banged up.

Rob

There was just such a campaign, plus questions in The House by Michael Howard when Susan "Jailbird" Carter got sent down for harbouring a fugitive.

I think that's the point.  The Archers is nothing if not original  ::-)

Apparently they did the usual trick of inviting a "celebrity" to open something recently, but Anneka Rice turned up  ???
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: hatler on 05 April, 2016, 09:45:20 am
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Did you really expect him to be dead - that was too much to hope for.

Watch out for the Daily Mail starting a campaign to release/forgive "the Ambridge one" when/if Helen gets banged up.

Rob
Well, it's been such a long running story line (with clearly still a lot left in it), that I thought that might be it.
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Post by: robgul on 05 April, 2016, 02:52:18 pm
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Did you really expect him to be dead - that was too much to hope for.

Watch out for the Daily Mail starting a campaign to release/forgive "the Ambridge one" when/if Helen gets banged up.

Rob
Well, it's been such a long running story line (with clearly still a lot left in it), that I thought that might be it.

I was hoping it was true as well - it's been way too long a story-line for radio.

Rob
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: LEE on 05 April, 2016, 08:30:26 pm
Damn! I missed that episode.  That makes..err....all of them.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 06 April, 2016, 12:02:20 pm
Because we are an upper middle class farming community and we don't do that sort of thing!

Deavid Archer is a serial killer though. Jethro and Nigel for starters. Actually just Jethro and Nigel.

You're forgetting the badger.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 April, 2016, 01:00:33 pm
What happened to Jethro?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: tonyh on 06 April, 2016, 01:07:05 pm
Was that something to do with Tom Forrest?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Sea of vapours on 06 April, 2016, 01:10:27 pm
From Wikipedia:
'Jethro Larkin (George Hart), Stereotypical yokel. His tenure came to end in 1987 when helping David fell a tree using a chainsaw'.
(And an excellent summary of his character there :-) )
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 06 April, 2016, 02:10:01 pm
From Wikipedia:
'Jethro Larkin (George Hart), Stereotypical yokel. His tenure came to end in 1987 when helping David fell a tree using a chainsaw'.
(And an excellent summary of his character there :-) )

Exactly. David said it was an accident, but there were no witnesses. Dead yokels tell no tales.  And don't forget Fatman Forrest did for his brother (Jethro's not Deavid's).
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 April, 2016, 08:46:06 pm
Blimey! I thought I would have remembered the Ambridge Chainsaw massacre.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Dibdib on 08 April, 2016, 08:00:08 pm
Minor request: can we please use spoiler tags at least for anything which hasn't been broadcast in the omnibus yet?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: toontra on 08 April, 2016, 09:43:51 pm
Minor request: can we please use spoiler tags at least for anything which hasn't been broadcast in the omnibus yet?

I'd avoid Radio 4 in general then.  There have been references (i.e. plugs) all week on Today, PM, Woman's Hour and others I have forgotten, including clips.  On this evening's PM there were 2 initially sceptical reviewers who agreed to listen all week and concluded that the Archers is actually a jolly good show (apart from the theme tune)  ::-)  All pretty shameless self-promotion worthy of the Digger himself.
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Post by: tonyh on 08 April, 2016, 10:29:11 pm

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"The Now Show" was one.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Pickled Onion on 09 April, 2016, 07:52:41 am
"The Now Show" was one.

Oi! Some of us listen to that on Saturday!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: tonyh on 09 April, 2016, 07:57:17 am
..... should have used an "unspoiler"!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: toontra on 09 April, 2016, 09:23:21 am
Another plug for the Archers this morning on Today - this time some spurious nonsense about Emma Grundy being in a forthcoming film which will be released in a few months' time (so not even topical).
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: mattc on 09 April, 2016, 09:26:24 am
Is anyone else watching the OJ Simpson series? (its surprisingly good!)

I'm awaiting a satire based on a pastiche/mashup/thingy of these two story lines. (do Bookies take bets on these sort of things??)
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: red marley on 10 April, 2016, 09:38:42 pm
For anyone who needs to catch up with the Archers over the last 65 years, this (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03qjvhr) is rather good.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 September, 2016, 06:50:23 pm
No updates since then? (Very good, by the way, jo).

I had to remain silent throughout lunch today so that Aunt Phyllis and Mrs. Wow could get their fix.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 08 September, 2016, 07:04:42 pm
I've been listening to the trial this week. Have to admit it's been pretty gripping.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 08 September, 2016, 08:23:38 pm
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Post by: Wowbagger on 08 September, 2016, 08:53:32 pm
Having listened at lunch time, I also had to listen to this evening's episode.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 08 September, 2016, 09:14:05 pm
Tonight's episode was a corker.

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Post by: Tim Hall on 08 September, 2016, 09:52:01 pm
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Post by: citoyen on 08 September, 2016, 10:42:07 pm
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Post by: robgul on 11 September, 2016, 08:14:59 pm
Just listened to the download of the Omnibus followed immediately by the hour-long trial - great stuff, even if predictable as an outcome ....... but there's more to come with the aftermath - what will happen between Helen & Rob?

Rob
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 September, 2016, 09:16:07 pm
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Post by: rr on 12 September, 2016, 12:30:35 am
I'm not convinced we've heard the full Rob/Henry story yet.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: robgul on 12 September, 2016, 07:33:33 am
I'm not convinced we've heard the full Rob/Henry story yet.

Doubtless complicated by Rob having formally adopted the lad . . . . hopefully nothing more sinister or unpleasant than wrangles over custody.

Rob (not THAT one!)
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: mattc on 12 September, 2016, 08:59:35 am
Just listened to the download of the Omnibus followed immediately by the hour-long trial - great stuff, even if predictable as an outcome ....... but there's more to come with the aftermath - what will happen between Helen & Rob?

Rob
Was the outcome as predictable as the trial in Poldark this week?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Woofage on 12 September, 2016, 09:51:56 am
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Post by: Nuncio on 12 September, 2016, 10:27:05 am
I thought the same. I don't think a second listen will help.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 12 September, 2016, 10:46:21 am
I thought the same. I don't think a second listen will help.

It's like Sean O'Connor was trying to be Sidney Lumet.

(I once did jury service with a woman who represented Ray Galton & Alan Simpson.  Their take on 12 Angry Men is much better)
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 September, 2016, 03:28:38 pm
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Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: robgul on 12 September, 2016, 05:04:07 pm
Have to say I thought the jury discussion - especially at the start - was a bit disjointed . . . and other than as an ego trip for the producer I can't see what having Nigel Havers, Catherine Tate, Eileen Atkins etc added to the pudding??

Rob
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tigerrr on 13 September, 2016, 10:17:33 pm
Watch out Henry...bad things are going to happen. It's not over yet. Nor likely to be for ages as it will be very hard to revert to old Archers after this.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: rr on 13 September, 2016, 10:31:59 pm
Watch out Henry...bad things are going to happen. It's not over yet. Nor likely to be for ages as it will be very hard to revert to old Archers after this.

I suspect bad things have already happened, hence the return to bed wetting. Helen seemed like she'd been drugged a couple of times.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Oscar's dad on 14 September, 2016, 06:58:52 pm
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Ah, that's OK then.  I listened to the hour long episode on iPlayer which kept stopping.  When they suddenly jumped to the jury returning their verdict I thought I'd missed a bit and was going to listen again to check.

The trial itself was just brilliant, the acting and story line were both superb.  I didn't think the jury room episode was as good.  Are jury deliberations really like that?  I suppose they could be if you got the right mix of characters. 
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: hatler on 14 September, 2016, 08:48:59 pm
I heard somewhere in all the Archer related stuff that the editor (producer, writer ??) had done jury service a couple of times and used that experience to inform the hour long episode.

I'm still waiting to be called for jury service. Is there a point where age excuses you ?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: robgul on 14 September, 2016, 08:53:41 pm
I heard somewhere in all the Archer related stuff that the editor (producer, writer ??) had done jury service a couple of times and used that experience to inform the hour long episode.

I'm still waiting to be called for jury service. Is there a point where age excuses you ?

Yep it's 70 (which meant that Eileen Atkins at 82 wouldn't have been able to serve!)

. . . I was called once in about 1974 but was genuinely away on holiday so didn't have to do it  - no word since then and I escape the call-up next year.

Rob
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 14 September, 2016, 11:42:18 pm
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Ah, that's OK then.  I listened to the hour long episode on iPlayer which kept stopping.  When they suddenly jumped to the jury returning their verdict I thought I'd missed a bit and was going to listen again to check.

The trial itself was just brilliant, the acting and story line were both superb.  I didn't think the jury room episode was as good.  Are jury deliberations really like that?  I suppose they could be if you got the right mix of characters.

When i did it, we didn't use our own life experiences to help determine the guilt or innocence of the accused.  We also didn't all talk/shout across each other.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Woofage on 15 September, 2016, 09:08:08 am
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Thanks. I picked that up better on my second listen. Tate's character also finally revealed that she was in an abusive relationship but that she felt she had to put up with it.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 12 October, 2016, 01:55:11 pm
I have a confession to make: since allowing the Helen storyline to lure me back in, I've started listening to the Archers regularly again.

The writing seems to have improved since last time I was a regular listener. I understand this may be because they have a new editor. If so, well done them. There are still some irritations but also some very good stuff - in particular, there was an exchange between Jennifer and Susan in the shop the other day that made me smile.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 14 January, 2017, 06:09:52 pm
Stefan's not dead!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 16 January, 2017, 12:35:44 pm
Ah Stefan. I was expecting him to turn up before/during the trial. It's difficult to imagine what could be gained 'just' by Rob's reputation being brought down any lower by any revelations from Stefan, so what are the chances of Rob trying to do away with him instead?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 16 January, 2017, 04:38:59 pm
Ah Stefan. I was expecting him to turn up before/during the trial. It's difficult to imagine what could be gained 'just' by Rob's reputation being brought down any lower by any revelations from Stefan, so what are the chances of Rob trying to do away with him instead?
I expect Evil Rob to get nasty (even if not lethal) with Stefan and thence get his collar felt by the local plod. At which point Charlie Thomas wades in.....


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Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Oscar's dad on 16 January, 2017, 04:41:18 pm
I've lost touch recently. Who is Stefan?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 16 January, 2017, 05:46:35 pm
 Stefan was an East European worker on the mega-farm, he witnessed Evil-Rob blocking the storm drain which exacerbated the effects of the flood. Evil-Rob paid him to disappear back home before he could shop Rob. (?ISTR that Stefan was gay and had a dalliance with ?Adam?)
Charlie Thomas was manager of the mega-dairy and found out that Evil-Rob was cooking the books - Rob got him out.
Someone will be along in a moment to correct my errors/ fill in the gaps.


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Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Oscar's dad on 16 January, 2017, 05:48:05 pm
Gosh, it seems I've missed alot!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 16 January, 2017, 06:32:49 pm
Gosh, it seems I've missed alot!

Or not, as the case may be!

I find reading the Archers summary on YACF saves a lot of time and effort.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Oscar's dad on 16 January, 2017, 06:37:14 pm
Gosh, it seems I've missed alot!

Or not, as the case may be!

I find reading the Archers summary on YACF saves a lot of time and effort.

 ::-)  ;D
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 16 January, 2017, 06:58:09 pm
Stefan was an East European worker on the mega-farm, he witnessed Evil-Rob blocking the storm drain which exacerbated the effects of the flood. Evil-Rob paid him to disappear back home before he could shop Rob. (?ISTR that Stefan was gay and had a dalliance with ?Adam?)
Charlie Thomas was manager of the mega-dairy and found out that Evil-Rob was cooking the books - Rob got him out.
Someone will be along in a moment to correct my errors/ fill in the gaps.


Sent from my brain to my iPad using my fingers and Tapatalk

Whilst Adam shags more people than Caroline BoneSterling, I think his Eastern European interest was in the shape of one of the fruit pickers rather than Stefan

(Sad to see that Caroline's close friend, Sara Coward, has terminal cancer.)
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Peat on 16 January, 2017, 07:22:51 pm
Pawel, was it not?

I must admit, I had forgotten about Stefan. And I listened to the Omnibus and missed the reference. I need to listen betterer.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 16 January, 2017, 10:11:24 pm
Pawel, was it not?

Quite right you are


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Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Peat on 17 January, 2017, 07:21:24 am
My temporary amnesia was due having not listened to the final 15mins of the Omnibus out of error.

Duly rectified. Stefan eh.  :o
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: hatler on 18 January, 2017, 12:26:11 am
My prediction is that evil Rob will do away with himself and the two children.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 18 January, 2017, 07:21:09 am
My prediction is that evil Rob will do away with himself and the two children.
Hopefully not. Don't forget Helen's previous partner, Greg, also killed himself.
Title: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 21 January, 2017, 08:41:11 pm
so what are the chances of Rob trying to do away with [Stefan] instead?

After Friday's events, quite high, I'd say.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Pickled Onion on 23 January, 2017, 01:02:23 pm
Too late for that now, unless he takes out Justin as well.

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Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 23 January, 2017, 01:35:25 pm
so what are the chances of Rob trying to do away with [Stefan] instead?

After Friday's events, quite high, I'd say.
So did Justin get wind of Stefan being back in Ambridge from Fag Ash Lil almost bumping into him when he was trying to shake Rob down? I thought Lilian said she didn't hear anything, but presumably she did and tipped Justin off out of our earshot. Or did I miss a bit?
Title: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 23 January, 2017, 02:13:24 pm
She had already seen Stefan earlier in the week while out with Jennifer, who explained that she and David had passed on Stefan's story to Charlie but hadn't followed it up - they assumed it had been dealt with.

Rob's alternative fact about Stefan being a sales rep would then have been enough to make her realise something fishy was going on.

The same thought crossed my mind about Rob kidnapping the boys after last night's episode.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: hatler on 23 January, 2017, 04:11:16 pm
Lillian heard it all and relayed to Justin.

I still reckon we're on for a cataclysmic end of Rob and the two boys.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 23 January, 2017, 04:26:58 pm

I still reckon we're on for a cataclysmic end of Rob and the two boys.
On the one hand it mustn't go all Eastenders, but on the other we can't have another long slow burn.
So
Kidnap, and swift recovery, Rob locked up, key lost.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 23 January, 2017, 04:40:02 pm

I still reckon we're on for a cataclysmic end of Rob and the two boys.
On the one hand it mustn't go all Eastenders, but on the other we can't have another long slow burn.
So
Kidnap, and swift recovery, Rob locked up, key lost.
Tom will rush in, save the day, rescue The Boys and drown Rob in a slurry pit. Kirsty will see him in a different light and, in a mess of pregnant hormones, pledge her undying wossname.  Meanwhile Justin will be exposed for the evil landlord he is, following a chance remark by Miranda. Adam, full of rage, confronts him and he scuttles off, but not before he's reinstated Charlie Thomas as manager. Charlie moves in with Ian and Adam and they all live happily ever after.
<GRAMS:Barwick Green, Doom Music>
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: hatler on 29 January, 2017, 12:33:09 am
Has he really gone ?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 29 January, 2017, 08:31:28 am
I doubt it!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Dibdib on 30 January, 2017, 11:31:12 am
Definitely not, IMO. My only question is whether Ursula is in on it or not.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: tonyh on 30 January, 2017, 12:48:05 pm
Definitely not, IMO. My only question is whether Ursula is in on it or not.

Ah. Ursula as a distracting accessory in the kidnap attempt?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Dibdib on 30 January, 2017, 12:51:20 pm
I reckon maybe so. That was quite a convincing show of waterworks she put on in the shop with Pat, but I wouldn't trust Ursula as far as I could throw her.

I very much enjoyed the new vet giving Jazzer a run for his money though.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 30 January, 2017, 01:13:12 pm

So Rob perverted the course of the Am (or blocked a culvert, or something), exacerbating the flooding and endangering life and now Justin is perverting the course of justice by not disclosing this to the police.The righteous gods of Ambridge will not let that go unpunished. And Stefan remains a long-term blackmailing loose-end.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Peat on 31 January, 2017, 11:39:05 am
I very much enjoyed the new vet giving Jazzer a run for his money though.

They'll do the nasty. It'll be signified by the usual spine-juddering post-coital Ambridge sighs.

bllllleeeeerrrggghh
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 31 January, 2017, 11:52:25 am
They'll do the nasty. It'll be signified by the usual spine-juddering post-coital Ambridge sighs.

I got the impression she had her sights set on Rex. Maybe Rex and Jazzer can have a fight over her - I'm envisaging something along the lines of Alan Bates and Oliver Reed in Women In Love.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Oscar's dad on 31 January, 2017, 12:28:39 pm
I have a back log of omnibuses to catch up on - I'm part way through the Christmas edition.  Clearly its all kicking off in Ambridge so I need to pull my finger out and get up to date!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Dibdib on 31 January, 2017, 03:14:52 pm
They'll do the nasty. It'll be signified by the usual spine-juddering post-coital Ambridge sighs.

Eurgh. Far too early on a Sunday for that kind of thing. It's bad enough with Pip and Toby.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 31 January, 2017, 03:30:31 pm
It's bad enough with Pip and Toby.

It's worse with Lilian and Justin!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Basil on 31 January, 2017, 03:37:48 pm
I don't always listen, so I may have missed something.
But what's this Brighton thing? 
Another partner and child?
A vulnerable relative?
A vulnerable friend?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 31 January, 2017, 04:13:08 pm
I don't always listen, so I may have missed something.
But what's this Brighton thing? 
Another partner and child?
A vulnerable relative?
A vulnerable friend?

He's claimed in the past that it's a vulnerable friend but I trust him as far as Jill could throw him.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Oscar's dad on 31 January, 2017, 04:31:04 pm
Oh yeah, something that's been puzzling me. Why did Pip go to NZ last Christmas?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Peat on 31 January, 2017, 04:48:31 pm
That was Pip's mum, Ruth.

She went to look at Kiwi cattle grazing/milking methods (and to get away from David for a bit)
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Dibdib on 31 January, 2017, 04:57:43 pm
I think Pip went somewhere a while ago though - some kind of work placement for a big multinational agri-corp?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Oscar's dad on 31 January, 2017, 06:17:19 pm
That was Pip's mum, Ruth.

She went to look at Kiwi cattle grazing/milking methods (and to get away from David for a bit)

Doh!  I meant Ruth not Pip. Thanks for the answer. 
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 31 January, 2017, 07:05:05 pm
In a recent Graun quick crossword, the clue was "Radio distress call" and the solution was "MAYDAY". My brane wanted me to write "eurrr neurrr" but I couldn't make it fit.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 01 February, 2017, 10:19:16 pm
I think Pip went somewhere a while ago though - some kind of work placement for a big multinational agri-corp?
Pip was going to work for a big agri business company , which involved going to Brazil  (I think) but chucked the job in at the last minute.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 01 February, 2017, 10:21:18 pm
I don't always listen, so I may have missed something.
But what's this Brighton thing? 
Another partner and child?
A vulnerable relative?
A vulnerable friend?

He's claimed in the past that it's a vulnerable friend but I trust him as far as Jill could throw him.
All was explained this evening. I believe him.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: hatler on 02 February, 2017, 08:37:25 am
What's Rob's arrangement with Henry ?  Or is that yet to be revealed ?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 02 February, 2017, 10:00:05 am
What's Rob's arrangement with Henry ?  Or is that yet to be revealed ?

Whatever it is, it can't possibly be as ludicrous as Lilian and Justin's ongoing bedroom farce.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 02 February, 2017, 11:19:48 am
What's Rob's arrangement with Henry ?  Or is that yet to be revealed ?

Yet to be revealed. I predict Bad Things and the Doom Music.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tigerrr on 03 February, 2017, 07:25:50 am
Henwy left screaming in the car as the evil one snatches Jak. It's only Friday, that was surely a weekend cliffhanger. 'i am not your real daddy, I am a pretend daddy' words to chill the heart of any child actor.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Riggers on 03 February, 2017, 09:10:42 am
Henwy left screaming in the car as the evil one snatches Jak. It's only Friday, that was surely a weekend cliffhanger. 'i am not your real daddy, I am a pretend daddy' words to chill the heart of any child actor.


^ ha ha ha ha!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D Love it.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Peat on 06 February, 2017, 05:43:32 pm
That damned tree. Stunted a decent storyline there.

Although, I'm not sure I could have put up with another couple of weeks of Helens' sobbing in my earbuds.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Basil on 06 February, 2017, 06:13:13 pm
Can someone update me on the Brighton thing?  I missed it and won't be wading through the whole omnibus just for that.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Oscar's dad on 06 February, 2017, 08:57:52 pm
That damned tree. Stunted a decent storyline there ...

Agreed!  Can't help thinking Rob has escaped too lightly.

Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 06 February, 2017, 09:14:53 pm
Can someone update me on the Brighton thing?  I missed it and won't be wading through the whole omnibus just for that.

Toby has an ex, Stella(?), in Brighton, who is a drug addict  She was in hospital after an overdose last week. Toby feels some responsibility, hence the sudden departure. He came clean about it to Pippa on his return, as she tried to throw him out. She's forgiven him, for the time-being.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 06 February, 2017, 10:14:35 pm
Can someone update me on the Brighton thing?  I missed it and won't be wading through the whole omnibus just for that.

Toby has an ex, Stella(?), in Brighton, who is a drug addict  She was in hospital after an overdose last week. Toby feels some responsibility, hence the sudden departure. He came clean about it to Pippa on his return, as she tried to throw him out. She's forgiven him, for the time-being.
Or at least that's what he's claiming.......


Tapatalk puts this signature here, not me!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Basil on 06 February, 2017, 10:19:32 pm
Can someone update me on the Brighton thing?  I missed it and won't be wading through the whole omnibus just for that.

Toby has an ex, Stella(?), in Brighton, who is a drug addict  She was in hospital after an overdose last week. Toby feels some responsibility, hence the sudden departure. He came clean about it to Pippa on his return, as she tried to throw him out. She's forgiven him, for the time-being.

Thanks Nuncio.   :thumbsup:

*gets on with life*
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Peat on 13 February, 2017, 08:06:43 am
"Minneapolis!?"*gasp*
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: robgul on 13 February, 2017, 04:57:32 pm
I see that the actress playing Caroline (or as Jack Woolley would say "Carraloine") has died.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38956870

Rob
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Oscar's dad on 13 February, 2017, 05:08:30 pm
I see that the actress playing Caroline (or as Jack Woolley would say "Carraloine") has died.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38956870

Rob

That's very sad, Caroline was a good character and I'm sure Sara Coward was just as nice in real life.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Peat on 17 April, 2017, 07:25:27 pm
"Ello Pusscat!"
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 18 April, 2017, 09:30:48 am
"Get lost Tiger"
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Ian H on 18 April, 2017, 10:06:24 am
This is very much worth seeing.  I gather they're planning a new tour in the Autumn.

http://www.theftr.co.uk/new-play-by-graham-harvey/
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 25 July, 2017, 09:00:48 pm
I am given to understand that Gill Archer has been arrested for throwing flapjack, 60 years to the day since her first appearance on the programme.

Is this true or is it trumped-up fake news?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 25 July, 2017, 09:02:57 pm
I am given to understand that Gill Archer has been arrested for throwing flapjack, 60 years to the day since her first appearance on the programme.

Is this true or is it trumped-up fake news?
Jill, rather than Gill, indeed  got her collar felt by PC Harrison wossname for assault, namely winging a lump of flapjack at a chef woman, famed, ironically, for her waste of food in her restaurant.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 25 July, 2017, 09:12:05 pm
What I want to know is this: is Harrison the only police officer in the whole of Borsetshire?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 25 July, 2017, 09:13:50 pm
What I want to know is this: is Harrison the only police officer in the whole of Borsetshire?

Government cuts, innit?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: pcolbeck on 25 July, 2017, 09:30:56 pm
I intermittently listen to the Archers, basically if I happen to  be in the car when its on.

I just looked at the Archer page on the BBC site and blimey Anisha is black ! It's going to take weeks for my metal image to switch.

That's the thing with radio you have to make up your own idea of what a character looks like and its always a shock when you see a picture of them. Liilian and Eddie Grunday are all wrong as well.  I think I shall write to the BBC and insist that they change them to actors who more closely resemble what's in my head.

Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 25 July, 2017, 10:17:51 pm
I just looked at the Archer page on the BBC site and blimey Anisha is black ! It's going to take weeks for my metal image to switch.

I didn't know for sure but I guessed. There have been a few hints, not least in the way other people react to her. Plus she has a Sri Lankan surname.

Pip gave herself away a bit tonight on hearing the news that Anisha has slept with Rex by saying she "didn't think she was his type".
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Peat on 01 September, 2017, 09:20:18 pm
50p on Anisha having it off with Latiffe.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 24 February, 2018, 08:45:24 am
OMG! Noooooooo!!!1!!1!!1!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Ian H on 24 February, 2018, 11:03:56 am
OMG! Noooooooo!!!1!!1!!1!

Are you one of the script-writers?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: tonyh on 24 February, 2018, 11:35:31 am
There's a script?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 24 February, 2018, 06:52:28 pm
Just listened to that. It was rather sad.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: robgul on 25 February, 2018, 08:15:44 am
Just listened to that. It was rather sad.

.. indeed, but it wouldn't have happened at Holby City (home of miracle surgery and same-day full recovery heart transplants)

By chance I was with some friends in Hanbury (near Inkberrow, a.k.a. Ambridge) and there was no mention . . . .

Rob
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Pickled Onion on 25 February, 2018, 08:55:27 am
Is Brian implicated?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 25 February, 2018, 01:36:44 pm
Is Brian implicated?

Well, it was his fault that Will was at work rather than at home looking after his poorly wife...
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 25 February, 2018, 01:37:45 pm
OMG! Noooooooo!!!1!!1!!1!

Are you one of the script-writers?

The scripts haven't been that bad lately. I do have a problem with some of the acting though - especially the new Pip, who is extraordinarily irritating.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: pcolbeck on 25 February, 2018, 01:51:15 pm
Script, what's this? I thought the Archers was a documentary.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: robgul on 25 February, 2018, 01:54:48 pm
OMG! Noooooooo!!!1!!1!!1!

Are you one of the script-writers?

The scripts haven't been that bad lately. I do have a problem with some of the acting though - especially the new Pip, who is extraordinarily irritating.

... it's Pip's hormones, what with the pregnancy etc

Rob
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Oscar's dad on 25 February, 2018, 02:41:01 pm
Script, what's this? I thought the Archers was a documentary.

It is you fool.  An every day tale of everyday country folk!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Ian H on 25 February, 2018, 02:46:25 pm
...especially the new Pip...

Is she like Dr Who?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: pcolbeck on 25 February, 2018, 02:53:43 pm
There was a mass cull of the actors who had played the younger members of the cast since they were kids. Apparently it was because the new producer felt that the existing actors hadn't any proper training as actors they had just grown up in the role and that now Pip etc were adults / late teens they wanted proper actors. IMHO the new actors are worse than the originals, a lot of the characters suddenly developed posher accents as well.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 25 February, 2018, 03:45:56 pm
And they replaced Clarrie with Pam Ayres.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Basil on 25 February, 2018, 04:22:54 pm
There was a mass cull of the actors who had played the younger members of the cast since they were kids. Apparently it was because the new producer felt that the existing actors hadn't any proper training as actors they had just grown up in the role and that now Pip etc were adults / late teens they wanted proper actors. IMHO the new actors are worse than the originals, a lot of the characters suddenly developed posher accents as well.

Which spoiled one of my tenuous claims to fame.  A teacher chum of mine had the original Pip actor in her primary school class when the character and actor was 10.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 26 February, 2018, 12:38:30 pm
Pip Archer is better than William Tell - he had the whole apple to aim at.

I saw that this thread had been updated (and that '#Archers' was trending on Twitter) but avoided it to avoid spoiling my aural omnibus pleasure. You've all been very good at avoiding such spoilage, I can see now, but that was not enough.

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Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Peat on 15 March, 2018, 04:00:06 pm
The Matt Crawford hit and run was awkwardly shoe-horned in again, so it's not going away.

My bets say it was either Josh (fancy new car) or Alice (half pissed).
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Basil on 28 September, 2018, 09:40:26 pm
I've just bet a pint with a bloke  in the pub that Freddie won't receive a custodial sentence.
Surely the easiest pint I've ever won?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 28 September, 2018, 09:59:30 pm
I've just bet a pint with a bloke  in the pub that Freddie won't receive a custodial sentence.
Surely the easiest pint I've ever won?

I can't answer that without spoilers, but I will note that your post is time-stamped 9.40pm and the episode in which the sentenced was announced went out at 7pm.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Basil on 29 September, 2018, 12:05:16 am
Ah.  I don't listen to the evening show.  I occasionally hear the following afternoon repeat.
Did I win?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 29 September, 2018, 06:54:49 am
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Basil on 29 September, 2018, 04:11:11 pm
Bugger.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Man in a tree on 24 April, 2019, 05:59:30 pm
As nothing seems to have happened in Ambridge since last September, if this thread's anything to go by, I thought I'd resurrect it to note that Ted Kelsey, who played Joe Grundy, has died, so no more tragi-comic tales of homelessness and farmer's lung then.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 April, 2019, 06:21:59 pm
He also played Mr. Growbags in a Wallace & Gromit blockbuster. Very much in character.

I recall Mrs. Wow and Dez watching some science fiction film some years ago. I happened to walk in at the point when the actor with David Archer’s voice warned in panicked tones about some imminent dreadful fate at the hands of some marauding aliens, to which the only possible response was “Eurgh neurgh!”
Title: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 24 April, 2019, 06:45:19 pm
Ted Kelsey, who played Joe Grundy, has died

Oh no! That’s sad. But hardly surprising.

Peggy and Jill are probably the last of that generation left.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Ian H on 24 April, 2019, 11:16:52 pm
Ancient actor dies on the job.  You could almost make a soap out of it. 

*see also Ian Cognito.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Man in a tree on 25 April, 2019, 12:02:49 pm
The death on stage of Ian Cognito was bizarre to say the least.

Wasn't Joe Grundy the inheritor of the role of quaint village buffoon, last inhabited by Walter Gabriel, me 'ol pals, me 'ol beauties? Does anyone get near that role now, Linda Snell? Jazzer?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 25 April, 2019, 12:09:13 pm
Bert Fry?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Man in a tree on 25 April, 2019, 12:18:57 pm
Oh yes, I had forgotten him. I wonder why, as his poetry is unparalleled.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 25 April, 2019, 12:23:31 pm
Peggy and Jill are probably the last of that generation left.

Bert Fry?

Him too (unless your first question was statement was about the clan, and those married into it).
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 25 April, 2019, 12:25:39 pm
Him too (unless your first question was statement was about the clan, and those married into it).

No, I'd just forgotten Bert (and his incredible poetry).
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Peat on 30 April, 2019, 09:13:32 am
Omnibus listener here,

Curious as to how they will write him out. My bet is Clarry-love calling up the stairs "Jaaaoooeee? Jaaaaoooeee? Yer breakfast is going cold. *Creak of opening door* *Gasp* OH JAAOOEEEE!"

I'm expecting a stirring, cider-pun filled, eulogy from the Prof.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Basil on 30 April, 2019, 09:19:41 am
Omnibus listener here,

Curious as to how they will write him out. My bet is Clarry-love calling up the stairs "Jaaaoooeee? Jaaaaoooeee? Yer breakfast is going cold. *Creak of opening door* *Gasp* OH JAAOOEEEE!"

I'm expecting a stirring, cider-pun filled, eulogy from the Prof.

I think he'll elope to New Zealand with Linda Snell.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Ian H on 30 April, 2019, 09:24:38 am
Omnibus listener here,

Curious as to how they will write him out. My bet is Clarry-love calling up the stairs "Jaaaoooeee? Jaaaaoooeee? Yer breakfast is going cold. *Creak of opening door* *Gasp* OH JAAOOEEEE!"

I'm expecting a stirring, cider-pun filled, eulogy from the Prof.

I think he'll elope to New Zealand with Linda Snell.

He could just lose his voice.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: pcolbeck on 30 April, 2019, 09:26:06 am
Horrible crash when one of Josh Archer's dodgy second hand tractors suffers brake failure and mows down Joe and Bartleby. Joe bleeds out with the shaft of his trap piercing his chest whilst cradling Bartleby's head. Alistair has to shoot the mortally wounded horse at the scene. Josh does a runner to Spain, and Ruth commits suicide due to the immense disappointment over her sons actions and David starts drinking and Kenton has to take over the farm which he promptly runs into the ground.

Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 30 April, 2019, 01:05:45 pm
Nice piece by Nancy Banks Smith
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/apr/25/nancy-banks-smith-on-the-archers-joe-grundy-farewell-from-me-and-the-ferrets
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Man in a tree on 30 April, 2019, 06:25:34 pm
Horrible crash when one of Josh Archer's dodgy second hand tractors suffers brake failure and mows down Joe and Bartleby. Joe bleeds out with the shaft of his trap piercing his chest whilst cradling Bartleby's head. Alistair has to shoot the mortally wounded horse at the scene. Josh does a runner to Spain, and Ruth commits suicide due to the immense disappointment over her sons actions and David starts drinking and Kenton has to take over the farm which he promptly runs into the ground.
I was just working up a scenario to do with a bolting Bartleby and a ghastly collision with an escaped pig due to lack of fencing maintenance following Jazzer's horribly selfish and peevish resignation, but your version has quite taken the wind out of my sails.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Ian H on 30 April, 2019, 07:38:57 pm
Nice piece by Nancy Banks Smith
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/apr/25/nancy-banks-smith-on-the-archers-joe-grundy-farewell-from-me-and-the-ferrets

She is wonderful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Banks-Smith
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 March, 2020, 07:24:41 am
Almost a year since that last post on this thread.

But...

Ooh I say!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 11 March, 2020, 08:04:32 am
Ammost s year since that last post on this thread.

But...

Ooh I say!
Hold it right there.
We're a week behind because of our holiday.
Catching up two episodes a day - we'll get there soon
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 11 March, 2020, 12:27:31 pm
Almost a year since that last post on this thread.

But...

Ooh I say!
There's been some shit story lines in the past. But this surpasses them.
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Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 11 March, 2020, 12:29:11 pm
I'll be coming back here on Monday.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Hot Flatus on 11 March, 2020, 12:30:17 pm
I never get past the first two notes of the theme tune.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 11 March, 2020, 02:11:08 pm
Ooh I say!

I've not listened for a while, but had to investigate to find out what brought this on... Yikes!

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Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 March, 2020, 02:32:04 pm
My dear wife listens. When the excitement began at the end of Sunday's (?) I overheard it and wanted to now what had happened. I haven't listened regularly for a long time.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Oscar's dad on 11 March, 2020, 03:17:15 pm
I have a 2+ hour drive tomorrow so I will have a listen as I haven’t the faintest idea what you’re talking about!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 11 March, 2020, 03:48:26 pm
Ooh I say!

I've not listened for a while, but had to investigate to find out what brought this on... Yikes!

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And I don't like it
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: toontra on 11 March, 2020, 03:59:50 pm
Against my better judgement this prompted me to listen.  Should have been obvious there was about to be an "incident" when:

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At least the Ambridge farming community was spared the worst rains on record and they are blissfully unaware of the raging worldwide pandemic  ;)

Honestly, this stuff will rot your brain.  I feel sullied for having partaken.  :(
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 14 March, 2020, 08:52:29 am
It is certainly a very odd old parallel universe that contains Ambridge.

Mind you - I might have (by stealth) weaned Mrs M off the parallel NHS that exists in Leatherbridge (Doctors....... Aghhhhh)
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 24 March, 2020, 07:17:23 pm
Meanwhile, a fourth generation is being indoctrinated.

https://twitter.com/Nuncio2/status/1242428945875775490?s=20 (https://twitter.com/Nuncio2/status/1242428945875775490?s=20)
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 11 April, 2020, 07:40:01 am
Ok, which one of you was it?

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-52243209
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: T42 on 11 April, 2020, 08:07:13 am
"Gentleman"?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: toontra on 11 April, 2020, 08:47:29 am
You'll know the worst is behind us when you hear the pandemic being mentioned for the first time on the Archers.

Presumably there will be another time-lag and Ambridge will be in lock-down for 3 months while the rest of us are getting back to normality.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: ElyDave on 11 April, 2020, 06:06:27 pm
I've noticed its continued absence on both Casually an Holby I've the last few weeks, though Charlie has finally given up.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: mattc on 12 April, 2020, 04:01:25 pm
I've noticed its continued absence on both Casually an Holby I've the last few weeks, though Charlie has finally given up.
Holby have given their ventilators to the NHS, so they're not very prepared for COVID patients!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Pickled Onion on 11 May, 2020, 09:07:57 pm
And they've gone. 69 years without a break, coronavirus got them in the end.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 11 May, 2020, 10:17:26 pm
And they've gone. 69 years without a break, coronavirus got them in the end.
They'll be back soon...
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Basil on 21 May, 2020, 08:12:40 am
Seems they'll be back next Monday 25th, with added pandemic.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 21 May, 2020, 01:36:26 pm
Seems they'll be back next Monday 25th, with added pandemic.

[ruth]Ooooh noooo![/ruth]
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Ian H on 21 May, 2020, 01:44:31 pm
Seems they'll be back next Monday 25th, with added pandemic.

[ruth]Ooooh noooo![/ruth]

Good opportunity to thin out the cast if the BBC are strapped for cash.  Do dead Archers get redundancy payments?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 21 May, 2020, 05:15:05 pm
Seems they'll be back next Monday 25th, with added pandemic.

[ruth]Ooooh noooo![/ruth]

I think the correct pronunciation is "Eurrgh neurrgh."

IHTH.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Nuncio on 21 May, 2020, 05:52:26 pm
Good opportunity to thin out the cast if the BBC are strapped for cash.  Do dead Archers get redundancy payments?
No, they leave broke but unbowed.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: mattc on 21 May, 2020, 08:51:39 pm
Seems they'll be back next Monday 25th, with added pandemic.
That will round off the Bank Holiday nicely!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: toontra on 21 May, 2020, 08:56:07 pm
Move over Alan Bennett - here come the Ambridge monologues.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 June, 2021, 04:52:58 pm
Can anyone help in my cutting-edge academic research please? I recall an incident many moons ago in which Brian Aldridge got stoned on a cannabis cake baked by the then boyfriend of his daughter Kate. I’m trying to find out his name  and and the year. but my Google fu isn’t strong.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 07 June, 2021, 06:30:33 pm
Umm, it was something like Marcus. He was a posh lad with a BMW IIRC
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 07 June, 2021, 07:28:34 pm
Gibson


Umra has the answer.

https://groups.google.com/g/uk.media.radio.archers/c/90tQ4z_aKlg/m/TOu5p2I-HjIJ (https://groups.google.com/g/uk.media.radio.archers/c/90tQ4z_aKlg/m/TOu5p2I-HjIJ)
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 June, 2021, 08:56:34 pm
That is superb work, Mr. Hall! 10 points to Griffindor!
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Snakehips on 24 November, 2021, 11:18:11 am
My sources tell me that in yesterday's episode one of the characters mentioned a book, The Joyful Environmentalist , three times. Some might think that this was a blatant example of audible product placement. However , my sources also tell me that the author, Isabel Losada was as surprised as everybody else when she became aware of this. Apparently she is now sitting by the phone waiting for an invitation to go on the show for a cameo performance.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 24 November, 2021, 11:58:09 am
I see it's subtitled "How to Practise Without Preaching". Something Mia (the character who mentioned the book) could do with taking notice of.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 March, 2023, 08:18:32 am
It’s an illustration of how far The Archers has fallen in the collective forum’s consciousness that I had to delve back 4 pages of historical threads to record that

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It was also well over a month afterwards that I became aware.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 09 March, 2023, 08:42:06 am
The event mentioned in your spoiler does seem to be being milked for all it's worth. Yawn.
Equally the Lower Loxley tours are getting a bit tiresome.

We need some meat! What's the full story of Rureigh (or however it's spelled) and his gigolo lifestyle? Can we have a revenge attack by his concubine Julianne?

Will the public be able to see *exactly* what's going on in the dairy and will it be a menage á deux or trois?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 09 March, 2023, 09:21:11 am
I recognised Jasper Carrot's voice the other day, playing the part of a resident at The Laurels. His daughter was in it a few years ago, playing city-girl-moved-to-the-country Hayley. She left after Roy did the shagging with Elizabeth.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 09 March, 2023, 09:33:16 am
Roy did the shagging with Elizabeth.

Ugh. What kind of perverted mind comes up with that storyline?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Efrogwr on 09 March, 2023, 11:56:15 am
Roy did the shagging with Elizabeth.

Ugh. What kind of perverted mind comes up with that storyline?


There is an Archers fan forum where they are referred to as scriptwrongers...
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: robgul on 09 March, 2023, 12:06:48 pm
I recognised Jasper Carrot's voice the other day, playing the part of a resident at The Laurels. His daughter was in it a few years ago, playing city-girl-moved-to-the-country Hayley. She left after Roy did the shagging with Elizabeth.
   

Is Pru still at The Laurels? - played (I believe in 1 episode) by Judi Dench way back in the mists of time
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 March, 2023, 07:27:04 pm
Roy did the shagging with Elizabeth.

Ugh. What kind of perverted mind comes up with that storyline?

Brian Aldridge.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 March, 2023, 07:29:31 pm
I recognised Jasper Carrot's voice the other day, playing the part of a resident at The Laurels. His daughter was in it a few years ago, playing city-girl-moved-to-the-country Hayley. She left after Roy did the shagging with Elizabeth.

Am I imagining it, or did that same daughter play one of the Bennett Sisters in the most wonderful televisual feast Pride & Prejudice, which made Colin Firth a household name?

Edit: An off-by-two error: she played Maria Lucas, sister of Charlotte, who married the remarkably boring Mr. Collins.
Title: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 09 March, 2023, 08:21:10 pm
Lucy Davis also played Dawn in The Office
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 09 March, 2023, 08:41:26 pm
When Roy isn't doing the shagging with Elizabeth or working for Adil at Grey Gables, his close friend Ian Pepperell runs a Thee Pubbe in Ringwood.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 June, 2023, 09:01:04 am
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/jun/06/charlotte-higgins-on-the-archers-stray-virgins-better-watch-out-in-pagan-ambridge?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Crikey! Is it time to start listening again?
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 06 June, 2023, 02:06:03 pm
It does seem to be ramping up a bit from a very flat patch.
George could get murdered and dumped in pig slurry.
Home Farm is heading for an industrial tribunal with Adam's neck on the block.
The bloody electric charging station will hopefully disappear up its own electrons soon.
Oliver could be on course to hiring a hit man to take out Adil (although Freddie seems to after a new career)
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: Tim Hall on 06 June, 2023, 02:09:33 pm
It does seem to be ramping up a bit from a very flat patch.
George could get murdered and dumped in pig slurry.
Home Farm is heading for an industrial tribunal with Adam's neck on the block.
The bloody electric charging station will hopefully disappear up its own electrons soon.
Oliver could be on course to hiring a hit man to take out Adil (although Freddie seems to after a new career)

Susan is going to get a slap for being so bloody stupid about the missing glasses.
Title: Re: The Archers
Post by: citoyen on 07 June, 2023, 08:01:14 am
George Grundy is 17? That makes me feel old.

Haven’t listened for ages.