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Title: U2 spyplane
Post by: Hot Flatus on 05 June, 2020, 06:33:19 pm
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you can see one over the north sea at 60,000feet returning to Fairford
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Hot Flatus on 05 June, 2020, 06:41:18 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/D1rX4Sv/20200605-183938.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NFThxHJ)
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Basil on 05 June, 2020, 06:57:55 pm
Is it Gary Powers?
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 05 June, 2020, 06:58:48 pm
No, it's Bono.
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 05 June, 2020, 07:02:13 pm
I can see nothing.
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Hot Flatus on 05 June, 2020, 07:26:05 pm
now head SE towards oxford
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: ElyDave on 05 June, 2020, 07:38:12 pm
how many of them are left in service?

It is quite impressive in the Duxford museum seeing a B52, SR-71 and U2 in the same location, alongside some cool WWII stuff as well
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Lightning Phil on 05 June, 2020, 07:40:14 pm
I can see nothing.

Maybe drive to Barnard Castle to test your eyesight
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: pdm on 05 June, 2020, 07:46:47 pm
Its landed at RAF Fairford.
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: spesh on 05 June, 2020, 07:50:58 pm
how many of them are left in service?

As of last year, there were around 30 single-seat aircraft for missions and 4 two-seat training aircraft in USAF service. NASA operates 2 ER-2s as high-altitude laboratories.
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Mr Larrington on 06 June, 2020, 12:28:43 pm
Is it Gary Powers?

No.  He's dead.
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: TheLurker on 06 June, 2020, 03:34:09 pm
U2 heading into Fairford a week or three back.   https:// vimeo.com/412075421   (lose the space in the URL).

According to a neighbour who was working there at the time, Gary Powers stopped over at Brize Norton.  Whether he really did or not I can't say.
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 06 June, 2020, 03:35:18 pm
Is it Gary Powers?

No.  He's dead.

But Elvis is not and he stopped at Prestwick.
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Hot Flatus on 06 June, 2020, 03:57:47 pm
U2 heading into Fairford a week or three back.   https:// vimeo.com/412075421   (lose the space in the URL).

According to a neighbour who was working there at the time, Gary Powers stopped over at Brize Norton.  Whether he really did or not I can't say.

They are quite frequent at the moment. I've heard them fly over a few times, but never seen them.  Need an easterly wind for them to come over my house.

Read wiki page yesterday. 32 left in service. Manufactured from mid 50s to 1989. They keep planning to retire them, then not. Lockheed say they can last until 2050...which is astonishing.
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: TheLurker on 06 June, 2020, 04:09:18 pm
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U2 heading into Fairford a week or three back....

They are quite frequent at the moment. ...
They are.  They've been stooging around for months now, since early Feb I think.  See them (it?) landing two, three or more times a week.  Rarely seeing them taking off, prevailing winds being westerly, but it makes a hell of a din on take-off so I always saunter to the front of the house on the off-chance.

I think the B-52s are also expected to see out a century in service.
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Hot Flatus on 06 June, 2020, 05:03:20 pm
Wiki page quite interesting. U2 pilots used to carry suicide pills when the planes were operated by the CIA. Also there were British pilots too.
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Pingu on 06 June, 2020, 07:52:55 pm
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U2 heading into Fairford a week or three back....

They are quite frequent at the moment. ...
They are.  They've been stooging around for months now, since early Feb I think.  See them (it?) landing two, three or more times a week.  Rarely seeing them taking off, prevailing winds being westerly, but it makes a hell of a din on take-off so I always saunter to the front of the house on the off-chance.

I think the B-52s are also expected to see out a century in service.

Really? We saw them on their supposed farewell tour last year.
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Hot Flatus on 06 June, 2020, 11:51:16 pm
https://www.boeing.com/defense/b-52-bomber/
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Jaded on 07 June, 2020, 12:14:54 am
Are they like Trigger's Broom - bits get replaced all over so what is flying now is not what flew originally?

Otherwise - why aren't they grounded like old British planes?
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Hot Flatus on 07 June, 2020, 12:21:37 am
Read the wiki page. It seems the longevity comes from a strong air frame and the ease of reconfiguring and adapting the plane because it is roomy. Interestingly they only replaced the 1960s era cathode ray communications screens six years ago.
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: TheLurker on 07 June, 2020, 08:58:27 am
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I think the B-52s are also expected to see out a century in service.

Really? We saw them on their supposed farewell tour last year.
Very droll. You win the thread.  :)
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Jakob W on 07 June, 2020, 09:09:57 am
Interesting that the original aircraft was so overbuilt it doesn't look like they'll need to replace wing spars.* https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing/what-makes-the-boeing-b-52-stratofortress-so-long-lasting/134194.article has some detail - looks like the relatively low flight hours of the nuclear deterrent mission helps.

*Which I'm guessing would be a nightmare; IIRC none of the aircraft skin panels are interchangeable with other aircraft any more, as they've all warped and wrinkled in different ways over the past half-century...
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: TheLurker on 07 June, 2020, 09:59:00 am
I suspect even when they were new swapping panels around quickly wouldn't have been an option as they would have been jig built rather than *modern* *shiny* CAD with CNC cutting of parts so some *cough* fettling would be required.  Rather like our own dear Nimrod. 
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: pcolbeck on 07 June, 2020, 10:03:28 am
I have seen articles on line where the grandfather, father and then son have all been in the USAF and have all flown the same B52. Amazing.
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: ElyDave on 07 June, 2020, 05:25:10 pm
Are they like Trigger's Broom - bits get replaced all over so what is flying now is not what flew originally?

Otherwise - why aren't they grounded like old British planes?

I suspect that unlike the Harrier, or private Vulcan, there are enough of them still going to give sufficient workforce for skills retention, and engineering capabilities. That was the real death of the Vulcan in flying terms, insufficient manufacturer support for a one off to be able to manage an ageing airframe.

That and very deep pockets in the US DoD
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 07 June, 2020, 08:14:13 pm
Wiki page quite interesting. U2 pilots used to carry suicide pills when the planes were operated by the CIA. Also there were British pilots too.

In Bridge of Spies ISTR that Gary Powers did not use his suicide pill.  Luckily for Tom Hanks.   
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Redlight on 07 June, 2020, 09:03:20 pm


Really? We saw them on their supposed farewell tour last year.

I went to Fairport Convention's "farewell" concert at Cropredy in August 1979  ???
Title: Re: U2 spyplane
Post by: Jaded on 10 June, 2020, 10:30:18 pm


Really? We saw them on their supposed farewell tour last year.

I went to Fairport Convention's "farewell" concert at Cropredy in August 1979  ???

I'm not seeing them on Friday...