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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #250 on: 01 June, 2022, 09:55:09 am »
I remember consistently misreading cwt as kilowatt. Not only for the obvious visual reason but because hundredweight just weren't, and aren't, a part of daily life. I can't remember where I was seeing this; pretty sure it wasn't at school, must have been some sort of old documents or something. In fact I'd say hundredweight are one of the most contextually confusing measurements; not only the UK-US difference but in a metric context it can be either 100kg or 50kg (as a metricised equivalent of the imperial measure). I suppose centner and quintal at least avoid that confusion.
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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #251 on: 01 June, 2022, 10:05:43 am »
hundredweight just weren't, and aren't, a part of daily life.
Not many decades ago, almost everybody knew what a British hundredweight was.  It was a sack of coal delivered by the coal man.

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #252 on: 01 June, 2022, 10:11:07 am »
That would have been a great improvement on the electric storage heaters we had.
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citoyen

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #253 on: 01 June, 2022, 10:35:45 am »
hundredweight just weren't, and aren't, a part of daily life.
Not many decades ago, almost everybody knew what a British hundredweight was.  It was a sack of coal delivered by the coal man.

"Not many decades ago" - yes, slightly fewer than 10 decades ago!

It's all relative, I suppose.

Coal will be banned for domestic use from next year.
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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #254 on: 01 June, 2022, 11:36:00 am »
hundredweight just weren't, and aren't, a part of daily life.
Not many decades ago, almost everybody knew what a British hundredweight was.  It was a sack of coal delivered by the coal man.

I presume the FOREIGNS used 50 kg sacks.  We got through tonnes of coke when I was a tiny Mr Larrington charged with monitoring the Kohlträger in 1969-70.
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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #255 on: 01 June, 2022, 11:39:53 am »
I remember consistently misreading cwt as kilowatt. Not only for the obvious visual reason but because hundredweight just weren't, and aren't, a part of daily life. I can't remember where I was seeing this; pretty sure it wasn't at school, must have been some sort of old documents or something. In fact I'd say hundredweight are one of the most contextually confusing measurements; not only the UK-US difference but in a metric context it can be either 100kg or 50kg (as a metricised equivalent of the imperial measure). I suppose centner and quintal at least avoid that confusion.

8 stone IIRC, which would be 112 lb or 50.9kg.

I've never seen it equated to 100kg
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #256 on: 01 June, 2022, 11:41:41 am »
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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #257 on: 01 June, 2022, 11:44:07 am »
Brian Bilston's poem of the day is rather excellent

ElyDave

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #258 on: 01 June, 2022, 11:56:57 am »
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/centner

the Swedish/German make more sense than the stupid English version. 
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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #259 on: 01 June, 2022, 12:04:54 pm »
I remember some graffitti, in the '70s, on a bridge over the A47 (in Norfolk): "Fight metrication - We don't want no foreign rulers"
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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #260 on: 01 June, 2022, 01:21:26 pm »
I remember consistently misreading cwt as kilowatt.

You think that's bad? I keep misreading km as Kim...

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #261 on: 01 June, 2022, 01:30:51 pm »
I remember consistently misreading cwt as kilowatt.

You think that's bad? I keep misreading km as Kim...
:D ;D :D
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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #262 on: 01 June, 2022, 01:40:47 pm »
BSJ - hiding his shite under a bushel.

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #263 on: 01 June, 2022, 03:21:53 pm »
Quote from: Pingu
BSJ - hiding his shite under a bushel.
:)  Ta.
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citoyen

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #264 on: 01 June, 2022, 04:13:08 pm »
Working on a health blog today, which includes this snippet...

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A US study that followed more than 18,500 male doctors (all aged 40 or over) found that those who took multivitamins for at least 20 years were almost half as likely (44%) to experience a heart attack or stroke as those who hadn’t taken a multivitamin long-term. ‘This suggests the long-term use of supplements appears to offer significant cardiovascular protection,’ explains Dr XXXX. ‘Consider taking a multivitamin and mineral supplement as a nutritional safety net to help safeguard against diet deficiencies.’

Had a look at the study cited, this was its conclusion:
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In this long-term prospective study in initially healthy men, multivitamin use for ≥20 y was associated with a lower risk of major CVD events.

I think there's a fair bit of mental gymnastics going on by Dr XXXX to get from the conclusion to her advice.

And I'm sure it's purely a coincidence that Dr XXXX is Medical Director for a nutritional supplement brand.

Everything that's wrong with mainstream health journalism in a nutshell.
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hellymedic

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #265 on: 01 June, 2022, 06:26:30 pm »
Anyone remember those exercise books that had the back cover with lists of chains, rods, troy weight, cwt, etc

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ElyDave

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #266 on: 03 June, 2022, 04:51:11 pm »
BBC presenter, on Click no less, "this can produce 100 kilowatts per hour"  :facepalm:
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Bluebottle

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #267 on: 13 June, 2022, 07:42:50 pm »
Billy Bragg is not correct when he asserts that "every alpha particle hides a neon nucleus".
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Pingu

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #268 on: 13 June, 2022, 08:57:59 pm »
Billy Bragg is not correct when he asserts that "every alpha particle hides a neon nucleus".

This is the thread you are looking for.

Bluebottle

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #269 on: 13 June, 2022, 09:03:01 pm »
Billy Bragg is not correct when he asserts that "every alpha particle hides a neon nucleus".

This is the thread you are looking for.

Crikey. Can I buzz myself for repitition! Had forgotten all about that...
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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #270 on: 13 June, 2022, 09:16:56 pm »
Billy Bragg is not correct when he asserts that "every alpha particle hides a neon nucleus".

This is the thread you are looking for.

Why not both? :D

Either way, Braggs's got his alpha process stellar nucleosynthesis the wrong way round (Neon being created by the fusion of oxygen with a helium nucleus).

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #271 on: 14 June, 2022, 11:16:55 pm »
Working on a health blog today, which includes this snippet...
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I think there's a fair bit of mental gymnastics going on by Dr XXXX to get from the conclusion to her advice.

And I'm sure it's purely a coincidence that Dr XXXX is Medical Director for a nutritional supplement brand.

Everything that's wrong with mainstream health journalism in a nutshell.
Some 6th form science understanding would suggest that the sort of people who take vitamin supplements for the last 20 years (e.g. starting in their 20s) would tend to be more health conscious and will likely do other things that will be good for their health, hence less chance of heart attacks.  Correlation vs causality.
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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #272 on: 15 June, 2022, 01:56:18 pm »
It is technically a confounder, but a core reason while the vast majority of correlations aren't causal relationships. Of course, if most of the world knew this, social media would collapse.

Kim

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #273 on: 15 June, 2022, 02:00:04 pm »
It is technically a confounder, but a core reason while the vast majority of correlations aren't causal relationships. Of course, if most of the world knew this, social media would collapse.

But not necessarily because everyone understood that correlation is not causation.

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Re: Science that makes you cringe
« Reply #274 on: 15 June, 2022, 02:31:27 pm »
It is technically a confounder, but a core reason while the vast majority of correlations aren't causal relationships. Of course, if most of the world knew this, social media would collapse.

Of course, that's just what They want you to think!  Wake up, sheeple!

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