Quote from: Peter on 10 August, 2023, 12:02:26 pmHas a crime actually been committed? It seems on the face of it that the property may have belonged to the people who set fire to it and also demolished it. Are you allowed to burn your own house down? Probably there was no insurance, anyway. And the house wasn't listed, only listing. Yes, it all stinks to high Heaven but I'll be surprised if any serious prosecutions are brought. Do you need planning permission to demolish a house? Probably, yes, so there might be a retrospective case for the council but that might be about it. I suspect this outfit knows very well what it is doing. That's why they live in a gated establishment. Be nice if they were in a different gated establishment, perhaps, with no matches.Have to say that's some of my thinking - if you own a building can you destroy it? (ignore the method for a moment) - provided it's done safely. If it was subject to an insurance claim that's obviously fraud . . but if it isn't? When I had a small farm back in the 1980s I demolished an old barn, nobody seemed bothered.I guess the question is "do you need unplanning permission to demolish something you own" and whether arson is a crime.
Has a crime actually been committed? It seems on the face of it that the property may have belonged to the people who set fire to it and also demolished it. Are you allowed to burn your own house down? Probably there was no insurance, anyway. And the house wasn't listed, only listing. Yes, it all stinks to high Heaven but I'll be surprised if any serious prosecutions are brought. Do you need planning permission to demolish a house? Probably, yes, so there might be a retrospective case for the council but that might be about it. I suspect this outfit knows very well what it is doing. That's why they live in a gated establishment. Be nice if they were in a different gated establishment, perhaps, with no matches.
Latest… Bit careless with the matches?
According to C4 News just now there are special rules for pubs, which need permission for demolition or change of use. Which in their case they had not got.
As large building machinery started arriving on the site of the Crooked House pub on Monday night, fears for the remains of the much-loved building grew – with locals wondering what might happen to it under the cover of darkness.But one group of people used to staying up all night – the Black Country Paranormal Society – stepped in to guard the site perimeter and make sure all remaining bricks made it to the morning.“We did some paranormal investigating, and we did capture some stuff. But my main purpose here right now is to make sure there is no further destruction because if we’re trying to get this rebuilt, we don’t want these bricks here being turned to dust,” said Pearkes.“The wanton destruction we’ve seen has angered me so much, and the people around here are very robust, very honest, we don’t take any nonsense.”“I think people are worried about what is going to happen to the foundations and the footings – as soon as they touch them, there’s no chance of a rebuild here,” added Kerry Goodman, 36, a fellow protester. “Whatever they do, we want them to do it with care, we don’t want them flinging bricks about.”While local people carried out their round-the-clock guard of the pub perimeter, the building’s new owner, Carly Taylor, and her husband, Adam Taylor, who is closely linked to the sale, were pictured on holiday at a luxury villa in Corfu, where they allegedly told reporters they were trying to get away from the “lies and bullshit in England”.
Two men have been arrested on suspicion of arson over a fire that tore through the Crooked House pub....A 66-year-old man from Dudley and a 33-year-old man from Milton Keynes are being questioned over the fire.
And a 51 year-old man now. Here is a 51 year-old man.https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/world-crime/convicted-irish-drug-smuggler-linked-to-demolition-of-britains-wonkiest-pub/a2000179660.html
I drove by the owner's house a couple of days ago.Sadly, it wasn't on fire.
Quote from: Hilldodger on 09 September, 2023, 04:35:27 pmI drove by the owner's house a couple of days ago.Sadly, it wasn't on fire.100% it will have a sex pond and an outdoor TV.
Torygraph is reporting that the owners hired the demolition equipment days before the fire. Not that bright, then.
Kim, you are very bad!
More arrests:https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2023/09/28/man-and-woman-arrested-in-connection-with-suspected-crooked-house-arson/
