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whosatthewheel

Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #100 on: 14 October, 2017, 03:02:48 pm »
It's basically the Irish Mail 400 without the Anglesey part... It's more than 75% within wales

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Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #101 on: 14 October, 2017, 04:44:47 pm »
Sounds like it qualifies but if and when presented, I will need to check!
Regards,
Ross Jeal

whosatthewheel

Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #102 on: 14 October, 2017, 05:16:45 pm »
As for the 200... pretty sure Barmouth Boulevard is 100% Wales... starts in Corwen and goes west to the coast before heading back via Bwlch Y Groes

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Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #103 on: 21 November, 2017, 07:19:42 pm »
I wasn’t aware this was actually a thing until a friend pointed me at this thread. I rode John Hamilton’s Snowdon, Lleyn and Lakes 400km Perm last month and his Enter the Dragon 300km Perm on Saturday just gone so could potentially be halfway there. I’m also down to ride Brevet Cymru and Bryan Chapman Memorial later this year. Game on!   ;D

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Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #104 on: 23 November, 2017, 10:06:37 pm »
Regarding the SR Cymru award requirements: - Yes, I am still the holder and distributor of this award.
It was to be taken over by AUK Management but that seems to have been forgotten.
So, the following detail is still relevant until I am relieved of the task!

The SR Cymru is still the same as the regular SR with which you will be familiar and DIYs therefore qualify.
The only additional requirement is that the rides you nominate must run 75% within Wales or, failing that the total ascent must be 75% in Wales.

Without the 75% Welsh element there would be little point going for the SR Cymru!

The list of qualifying Welsh rides continues to be developed, but currently is as follows: -

200Km
Carmarthen Bay, Down with The British, Ferryside Fish Foray, Gower Getter, Transporter, Monmouthshire Meander, Making Hay, 'Round Rhondda, Elan & Ystwyth and Tregaron Dragon, Cambrian 200

300Km
Peacocks and Kites

400Km
Teifi Traveller, Irish Mail, Brevet Cymru

600Km
Bryan Chapman, Cambrian

As can be noted, we are pretty limited on choice of rides in the 300 category and not exactly flush in the 400 and 600Km categories.
The Offa's Dyke 600 does not qualify on distance or ascent criteria within Wales. Neither does the Kiddermister Killer or the Elenith, sorry.

If anyone knows of other audaxes which would qualify or of any above which do not, then I would be pleased to learn of them.

I have received but one application to date so if there are others who believe they have earned the SR Cymru award then please let me know with an email to rossjeal@gladestry.com

Presently I am rather snowed under with the Welsh Festival of Cycling, the Gladestry Audax Weekend and riding the Wednesday Peaks so don't expect to get a response, especially where a decision is needed much before September!

Regards,
Ross Jeal

All of the Cambrian Series permanents would fit this category.  There are a couple that just about stray into England, but not for any significant hills. 
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Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #105 on: 28 May, 2018, 10:46:04 am »
After seeing this year's BCM has been and gone, I notice that I did a virtual 'Welsh SR' - as it was over a 12 month period as the 400 was this year.

600K - BCM - May 2017
300K - Peregrine Mountain Roads - July 2017 [1]
200K - Pistyll Packing Momma - Sep 2017 [2]
400K - Brevet Cymru - May 2018

However I'm hopefully going to do it officially this Audax season.

[1] A event resurrected only just for last year see https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=103541.0 - but where's my Free T-Shirt!! I seem to remember something was mentioned on Facebook...
[2] By my calculations this is over 80% is in Wales and certainly all the hills are. I've not noticed this mentioned up thread and should be added to the list.

whosatthewheel

Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #106 on: 14 June, 2018, 07:08:28 pm »
Same here

National 400  late June 2017
Cestyll Cymru 200 July 2017
BCM 600 May 2018
Snowdon & Lakes 300 Early June 2018

whosatthewheel

Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #107 on: 15 September, 2018, 10:16:58 am »
I'm almost there, in terms of planning this for 2019

200 The Cambrian from Leominster (I've looked at the route and it should be > 75% in Wales)
300 Peregrine Mountain Roads from Monmouth .. it's not published yet, but there is life in the organiser tool, so I am hopeful this will happen
400 Brevet Cymru
600 BCM

Incidentally it will also be an AAASR, so two pigeons with one stone...  :thumbsup:

Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #108 on: 17 September, 2018, 11:33:28 am »
Pretty sure they all count...

Brevet Cymru 400
Bryan Chapman 600
Mille Cymru 1000
Velos Indian Summer Secret 200


I've thoroughly enjoyed these Welsh routes 👍🏻


Is Ross Jeal still the person to contact? Only rossjeal@gladestry.com email just bounces back

Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #109 on: 27 October, 2018, 03:07:47 pm »

So the last Audax year has been quite Welsh - the good weather definitely helped - as especially my riding had a few off road elements:

200K - Apr 2018: Cardiff Gravel X 'Group' DIY 200K - https://www.strava.com/activities/1525120040
400K - May 2018: Brevet Cymru
400K -  Jun 2018: TINAT 400A
1000K - Jul 2018: Milli Cymru

Must be unusual for a Welsh SR that doesn't include the BCM.

Sadly rossjeal@gladestry.com also doesn't seem to be active any more.

I think I now know who Mr Reynholm is in real life!

whosatthewheel

Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #110 on: 27 October, 2018, 07:32:05 pm »

So the last Audax year has been quite Welsh - the good weather definitely helped - as especially my riding had a few off road elements:

200K - Apr 2018: Cardiff Gravel X 'Group' DIY 200K - https://www.strava.com/activities/1525120040
400K - May 2018: Brevet Cymru
400K -  Jun 2018: TINAT 400A
1000K - Jul 2018: Milli Cymru

Must be unusual for a Welsh SR that doesn't include the BCM.

Sadly rossjeal@gladestry.com also doesn't seem to be active any more.

I think I now know who Mr Reynholm is in real life!

Try this

rossjeal@btinternet.com

Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #111 on: 15 December, 2018, 05:13:03 pm »

Try this
rossjeal@btinternet.com

Thanks! That works.

Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #112 on: 05 January, 2022, 06:24:58 pm »
One of my long planned targets but not achieved yet is the Cymru SR. For this year I've entered a 600 (Benjamin Allen's Summer Outing) and a 400 (Hafren), but I'm struggling to make any dates for a calendar 300. Plan B is to travel across to Wales for a weekend and ride a couple of the Cambrian Series permanents, doing a 300 on the Saturday and a 200 on the Sunday.

Using the Audax UK event page links, I can see the route for each perm, and I know they can be ridden from any control point. Is there a map anywhere with all the routes shown, or could somebody suggest a good combination of rides (300 + 200, preferably not overlapping too much) which could share the same starting location? I'm looking to base myself somewhere within easy access from the M6, maybe Newtown or north of there.

Many thanks if somebody can help.

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Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #113 on: 05 January, 2022, 06:47:00 pm »
If you visit my https://perms.audax.uk/ perm mapping.

1. Filter events to just 200km and 300km
2. Clear all events in your event list in menu bar on left.

If you then tap and zoom into Wales.  If you tap any single control it will add any 200km or 300km event that passes through that control to your event list in menu bar on left.  For instance Lake Vymry brings up 4 200km and 1 300km perm that pass through that control.

Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #114 on: 05 January, 2022, 06:53:10 pm »
Doing the above for Newtown I get Cambrian 2E 200km plus three 300km that are definitely in Wales. Enter the Dragon 300km by John Hamilton for instance.

Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #115 on: 05 January, 2022, 06:54:43 pm »
If you visit my https://perms.audax.uk/ perm mapping.

1. Filter events to just 200km and 300km
2. Clear all events in your event list in menu bar on left.

If you then tap and zoom into Wales.  If you tap any single control it will add any 200km or 300km event that passes through that control to your event list in menu bar on left.  For instance Lake Vymry brings up 4 200km and 1 300km perm that pass through that control.

That's very useful. Thank you so much  :thumbsup:

Eddington: 133 miles    Max square: 43x43

Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #116 on: 05 January, 2022, 07:31:46 pm »
After a fair bit of hunting around, I'm not so keen on the Cambrian Series routes ... using the maps of the routes linked to the event pages, they seem to use a lot of A roads, which I prefer to avoid. Other organisers, like for the Pergwern perms, seem to favour the smaller roads, but they are not sufficiently in Wales enough to qualify as Welsh rides for the SR.

I'll have another look later, but I'm thinking I may need to put my own mandatory route DIY together for at least one of the rides. That'll give me more flexibility on where to stay.

Eddington: 133 miles    Max square: 43x43

Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #117 on: 05 January, 2022, 08:23:01 pm »
I think that’s because you are picking a control on the border which is bound to have more cross border routes.

If you pick Bala as a base which I know you can reach from north east Hertfordshire in about 4 hours on a Friday.

Then you’ve got

https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=3546 - Enter the Dragon 300
https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=4962 - Snowdon, Lleyn & Lakes 200

The 300 is ebrevet approved and the 200 approved for gps track log validation.

Zero overlap between routes with one going down the Lleyn peninsula which is a lovely coastal area.

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Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #118 on: 05 January, 2022, 09:14:00 pm »
After a fair bit of hunting around, I'm not so keen on the Cambrian Series routes ... using the maps of the routes linked to the event pages, they seem to use a lot of A roads, which I prefer to avoid. Other organisers, like for the Pergwern perms, seem to favour the smaller roads, but they are not sufficiently in Wales enough to qualify as Welsh rides for the SR.

I'll have another look later, but I'm thinking I may need to put my own mandatory route DIY together for at least one of the rides. That'll give me more flexibility on where to stay.

The routes on the Cambrian Series rides are free - so you are welcome to adjust them as long as you keep the same control towns in the same order.  The routes published are just because most riders now like to have a GPS route to follow. 
Eddington Numbers 130 (imperial), 182 (metric) 571 (furlongs)  114 (nautical miles)

Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #119 on: 06 January, 2022, 08:13:53 am »
https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=3546 - Enter the Dragon 300
https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=4962 - Snowdon, Lleyn & Lakes 200

Two good options. Both have a section on an A road that I'd prefer to avoid (A493 and A5 respectively), but there are alternative routes between control points for those sections.

The routes on the Cambrian Series rides are free - so you are welcome to adjust them as long as you keep the same control towns in the same order.  The routes published are just because most riders now like to have a GPS route to follow. 

Good point. I'll be taking another look to see what alternatives are feasible between the control points.

Eddington: 133 miles    Max square: 43x43

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Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #120 on: 06 January, 2022, 10:57:41 am »
I think that’s because you are picking a control on the border which is bound to have more cross border routes.

If you pick Bala as a base which I know you can reach from north east Hertfordshire in about 4 hours on a Friday.

Then you’ve got

https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=3546 - Enter the Dragon 300
https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=4962 - Snowdon, Lleyn & Lakes 200

The 300 is ebrevet approved and the 200 approved for gps track log validation.

Zero overlap between routes with one going down the Lleyn peninsula which is a lovely coastal area.
I was feeling tempted to give this a go as I am on the brevet cymru and mr pickwicks summer outing this year, then I saw these rides have a combined 9000m of climb over a weekend.

better get training I guess.

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Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #121 on: 15 January, 2022, 01:20:30 pm »
Ooooo, I never knew of this award! Another something I'll have a go at in the future no doubt.

And I'm guessing a few of my events would qualify for it too (entries yet to open for this year)

A Bluestones' Throw 400 - distance +75% - has an off road section NCN47
A Giant's Tooth 500 - distance +75%
Devilishly Elegant 600 - climb borderline 75% - I'll have to rip the route up and chuck it through the calculator to see if this sneaks in.

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Re: SR Cymru
« Reply #122 on: 18 January, 2022, 01:54:12 pm »
Ooooo, I never knew of this award! Another something I'll have a go at in the future no doubt.

And I'm guessing a few of my events would qualify for it too (entries yet to open for this year)

A Bluestones' Throw 400 - distance +75% - has an off road section NCN47
A Giant's Tooth 500 - distance +75%
Devilishly Elegant 600 - climb borderline 75% - I'll have to rip the route up and chuck it through the calculator to see if this sneaks in.

Tempted by these, but having bitten off more than I can chew more often than I should over the last few years, will take them one at a time.
Eddington Numbers 130 (imperial), 182 (metric) 571 (furlongs)  114 (nautical miles)