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General Category => Freewheeling => Velo Fixe => Topic started by: The Solo Socialist on 30 July, 2018, 05:58:06 pm

Title: St Johns Cycles Wheels
Post by: The Solo Socialist on 30 July, 2018, 05:58:06 pm
Has anyone experience of their fixed/fixed hubs and wheel builds ?
Title: Re: St Johns Cycles Wheels
Post by: trumpet on 05 August, 2018, 08:23:48 pm
No experience of their fixed hubs. Never had any issues with the quality of their wheelbuilds - Stayed true and well tensioned.
Title: Re: St Johns Cycles Wheels
Post by: rogerzilla on 06 August, 2018, 08:18:54 pm
They used to have a thing for plain gauge spokes, which I would never use unless I needed a weird length where butted spokes aren't available from DT or Sapim.  I don't believe you can build and sell a rear fixie wheel for £60 with butted spokes; the parts alone are about £60 if you shop around.  My last one (basic good quality stuff: System EX hub, Sapim Race, Ryde Chrina 32h) cost almost exactly that but I built it.

The only review is very poor.

I've never ridden anyone else's wheels that stayed perfectly true except a pair from Merlin (also very cheap).  Hewitt, Thorn, DT...none of them were perfect.
Title: Re: St Johns Cycles Wheels
Post by: The Solo Socialist on 04 February, 2019, 07:23:41 pm
An update, I went ahead and purchased a wheelset in August. However mid January Rear Wheel Bearings failed, possibly due to my incorrect chain tensioning? However last week in January the Front Wheel Bearings have failed. When I replaced these at w/end it now seems some of the spokes are loose on the front wheel....
Not the best of starts ?????
I weigh 72 kg and have ridden some 3000 kms.
Title: Re: St Johns Cycles Wheels
Post by: Ian H on 04 February, 2019, 08:11:43 pm
For clarity, is this St John Street Cycles?
Title: Re: St Johns Cycles Wheels
Post by: rogerzilla on 04 February, 2019, 09:10:54 pm
Are the hubs the usual Formula/System EX ones?  They may be unbranded but it usually says Formula somewhere on a nut or lockring.
Title: Re: St Johns Cycles Wheels
Post by: The Solo Socialist on 05 February, 2019, 05:52:59 pm
Yes Ian St Johns Cycles.
I've looked for any Brand Names but cannot see anything rogerzilla (bearings are standard 6001)
Title: Re: St Johns Cycles Wheels
Post by: rogerzilla on 06 February, 2019, 07:00:40 pm
The Formula hubs don't have a reputation for bearing problems (which are a minor thing on cartridge hubs anyway), just cosmetic rust on the axle and locknuts.
Title: Re: St Johns Cycles Wheels
Post by: The Solo Socialist on 08 February, 2019, 03:17:52 pm
Just my misfortune then, basically what SJS Cycles have said. :-[
Title: Re: St Johns Cycles Wheels
Post by: rogerzilla on 08 February, 2019, 07:21:25 pm
Are they plain gauge spokes?  These are more likely to loosen than butted ones, because they aren't as elastic and are more likely to lose all tension when you hit a big bump, especially if the wheel wasn't built very tightly to start with.  The wheel can be trued, but I'd also add a lot more tension.

A couple of years ago, I bought some pre-built wheels because it was cheaper than getting the parts separately (this is sometimes the case).  Deore hubs, DT Competition spokes and ceramic rims, all for about £100.  They weren't bad but were a bit slack for my liking.  I added another half turn of tension all the way round and then re-trued them.
Title: Re: St Johns Cycles Wheels
Post by: The Solo Socialist on 10 February, 2019, 07:12:17 pm
Thanks Rogerzilla, they are plain spokes, I'll tighten them all half a turn...