Author Topic: Interesting or unusual planes?  (Read 390721 times)

TheLurker

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #850 on: 09 January, 2015, 05:47:55 am »
We get infrequent sightings hereabouts (within spitting distance of RAF Fairford).  Saw a couple of playing follow my leader with an Hercules a week or two after last year's RIAT.
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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #851 on: 10 January, 2015, 11:44:18 pm »
F-22 Raptor leaving Fairfords runway for its display in 2010

Raptor-F22 RIAT 2010
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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #852 on: 11 January, 2015, 08:17:08 am »
 :thumbsup:

Great shot!

T42

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #853 on: 11 January, 2015, 01:47:22 pm »
Saw this chap having fun last Thursday:

http://youtu.be/Vl6-00wJrzA

Sorry for the quality, my wee waterproof cycling camera did its best.

This is one of the French Army's favourite practice areas.
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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #854 on: 14 January, 2015, 04:02:18 pm »
Thanks to a post by Steph elsewhere on here, I now realise that what I saw whilst on my way to Fowlmead road circuit a couple of days before NYE was one of these.
Trust me when I tell you that it doesn't look like it should be airborne.
At all.

They are based at Mildenhall in Suffolk and come over my office here at Bentwaters (ex USAF also, now an industrial estate) quite often for exercises at the adjoining Woodbridge airbase which although not active is still owned and used by the military. They make the windows rattle when they come over! We've currently got Apache and Chinook helicopters buzzing us at low level as I type this.

The Ospreys won't be in the UK for much longer following last weeks announcement about Mildenhall. Looks like they will be heading for Germany within 5 years.
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Riggers

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #855 on: 18 February, 2015, 11:46:35 am »
… or, Geoff (with the rope) has just lassoed it.

<tannoy> "Geoff … what the …!!?? What the hell are you playing at!!?"
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Mr Larrington

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #856 on: 18 February, 2015, 06:03:14 pm »
Chinook over E17 today.  Suspect insurgents attempting to occupy the Lea Bridge Road.
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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #857 on: 18 February, 2015, 07:05:26 pm »
Chinook over E17 today.  Suspect insurgents attempting to occupy the Lea Bridge Road.
We get that flying over once or twice a week (I work in Blackhorse Lane) - its a wonderful noise and, given that my office is a portakabin type of affair, which on stilts, we get the benefit of motion as well as sound when it flies over. :thumbsup:

Steph

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #858 on: 19 February, 2015, 02:17:13 am »
On my trip to Liverpool, I was down at the pierhead when a Tornado flew over the town. Shortly thereafter, one went up the Mersey at notmuchfeet. Nice.....
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Oscar's dad

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #859 on: 19 February, 2015, 07:36:41 am »
Chinook over E17 today.  Suspect insurgents attempting to occupy the Lea Bridge Road.

I've occasionally seen a Chinook over London. Any idea what they are doing?

Jaded

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #860 on: 19 February, 2015, 07:53:31 am »
Taking sausages to Marsh Gibbon.
It is simpler than it looks.

Oscar's dad

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #861 on: 19 February, 2015, 08:22:43 am »
Taking sausages to Marsh Gibbon.

Silly me. I could of worked that one out for myself!

TimC

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #862 on: 19 February, 2015, 08:31:57 am »
Chinook over E17 today.  Suspect insurgents attempting to occupy the Lea Bridge Road.

I've occasionally seen a Chinook over London. Any idea what they are doing?

Probably transitting between RAF Odiham (the main Chinook base) and Colchester Garrisson or Stamford Training Area near Thetford.

T42

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #863 on: 19 February, 2015, 11:18:00 am »
Noticed this on the NASA on The Commons Flickr page this week. A full-size F-86 being lowered into a wind tunnel. Blimey

F-86 Lowered into Full Scale Tunnel at Ames by NASA on The Commons, on Flickr

Thanks for the NOTC link. Now I know what to do this afternoon... ;)
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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #864 on: 19 February, 2015, 09:54:43 pm »

TimC

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #866 on: 20 February, 2015, 07:39:24 am »
I've no idea how the air defence system works, but it would be rather embarrassing.

Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #867 on: 20 February, 2015, 08:05:02 am »
I think if they had been overland they would have been forced down not escorted back out to sea!
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

rr

Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #868 on: 20 February, 2015, 09:29:15 am »
Chinook over E17 today.  Suspect insurgents attempting to occupy the Lea Bridge Road.

I've occasionally seen a Chinook over London. Any idea what they are doing?

Probably transitting between RAF Odiham (the main Chinook base) and Colchester Garrisson or Stamford Training Area near Thetford.

Saw a pair fly westbound up the Thames in central London on Tuesday.

Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #869 on: 20 February, 2015, 11:46:40 am »
Sounds like somebody saw something unusual...

http://m.plymouthherald.co.uk/Did-Russian-bombers-fly-Plymouth-area/story-26054705-detail/story.html

Dreaming!

Quite.

If it was a Tu-95 that she saw, she would have heard the damn thing well before she saw it. A Tu-95 is loud. Very loud. Though I'm not sure how true the stories are about NATO pilots intercepting Tu-95s and having temporary hearing issues afterwards.

Given how large a Tu-95 is, it's not something that can easily be hooned around at low level through a valley as described, and even if the controls were light enough*, it's not worth using up the airframe life like that in peacetime.

I've no idea how the air defence system works, but it would be rather embarrassing.

The thing is, if it was true that UK airspace had been violated like that, do you really think that CallMeDave and the MoD spokesdroids are going to admit to it?  ;)


* Taking its American equivalent as an example, it's said that you don't fly a B-52 - you wrestle it into pointing where you want to go.
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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #870 on: 20 February, 2015, 12:21:33 pm »
BBC News - How to spot a Russian bomber: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-31537705

There's a wee mistake in the first set of recognition pictures - the silhouette for the Tu-22 depicts the earlier iteration, codenamed 'Blinder' by NATO, which was taken out of service in the 1990s. The Tu-22 in the second set of silhouettes correctly depicts a Tu-22M3 'Backfire'.

EDIT - looks like someone's had a word, the first set of recognition pictures has now been corrected.
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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #871 on: 20 February, 2015, 12:47:46 pm »
I've no idea how the air defence system works, but it would be rather embarrassing.

The thing is, if it was true that UK airspace had been violated like that, do you really think that CallMeDave and the MoD spokesdroids are going to admit to it?  ;)

Well that rather depends on whether the embarrassment is worse than the potential for making political capital over it. Mind you if it did fly unaccompanied through UK airspace what would the choice of responses tell the Russians?

I saw that today's Mail quotes an ex-RAF chief, alongside a headline that the UK could not defend itself if the Russians attacked. Personally, I would have thought that was always the case, which is why we are members of a military alliance.

I guess also that such headlines won't hurt the RAF's case for funding.

clarion

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #872 on: 20 February, 2015, 12:54:06 pm »
Quite.
Getting there...

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TimC

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #874 on: 21 February, 2015, 12:26:31 am »
The Cold War RAF was pretty capable of defending these islands, though even then those of us in the job thought the numbers were fairly marginal. In my time, the aircraft concerned varied from the Lightning (ineffective but spectacular) through the F4K/M, the F4J (terrific aircraft) and the Tornado F3 (better on paper than in the air). In 1990 there were around 8 squadrons (15 ac per squadron) of dedicated air-defence aircraft, backed up with several RAF Regt. anti-air missile squadrons. Now there are four dual-role air-defence/ground attack squadrons of Typhoons, of which at any one time just 4 aircraft are dedicated to defending UK territorial airspace at short notice. All the missile back-up is gone, and the ground attack role often means that many of these aircraft aren't even in the UK. The Typhoon's a great aircraft, but it's not a great deal more effective than the F4J was in terms of how many intruders it can kill, and how fast or how far it can go to do it. And the four available will quickly be overwhelmed if the Russians decide to send more than 2 Tu95s to see how good we are at seeing them off.

All that said, this woman saw a long, thin silver aircraft near St Mawgan (Newquay Airport) while she was undergoing a driving lesson. The only aircraft that land at St Mawgan these days are civilian, and mostly the Dash 8 Q400 - which is a particularly long, thin prop-driven aircraft which, like most airliners, is mostly silver underneath. Just sayin'.