Brevet 5000 question.

[iroiromono]

"The B5000 requires a Randonnée of 1200 km or more, a Super Randonneur series, 1000 km, 24 hour team ride, plus other events to a total of 5000 km, all BR or BRM, all ridden within a 4 year period."

Do people interpret this as a SR Series in a single season, or simply a collection of 200,300,400 and 600 over the 4 year period? I'd rather use a "spare" 600 from last season and "save" the Oveerseas 1200 I did this summer for B5000 #3

For the ACP awards they don't require the rides to be within the same season, but unsure for AUK.

the AUK claim form does not call for you to identify the exact qualifying rides, only put the years covering the ride, I would expect the recorder to choose the appropriate 2,3,4 and 6 and not use the 12, UNLESS the rules require them to be ridden in the same year. So really the question is how the recorder interprets the requirements. Put them form in and ask the question.

Interesting. I usually provide all the AUKref numbers for the qualifying rides for the awards to ensure efficient allocation of the rides when for example claiming multiple of the same award, i.e. #2 and #3 B5000. Need to try and catch up with Steve Ralphs

Another point. One can only be an SR ones per season, but can claim multiple SR Series in a single season for awards. For example in 2019 I did 3 and used these for my B25,000 award

[quixoticgeek]

Technically in ACP terms, you don't need an SR to qualify for PBP, as they let longer rides substitute for shorter rides as qualification. But you won't get an ACP SR that way.

Also as the 4 year counter for the ACP award is from the start of the first event that you use to count towards it. If you start the counter with PBP, then the SR series needed to qualify for PBP doesn't count towards your ACP 5000 award...

J

[Wycombewheeler]

Interesting. I usually provide all the AUKref numbers for the qualifying rides for the awards to ensure efficient allocation of the rides when for example claiming multiple of the same award, i.e. #2 and #3 B5000. Need to try and catch up with Steve Ralphs

Another point. One can only be an SR ones per season, but can claim multiple SR Series in a single season for awards. For example in 2019 I did 3 and used these for my B25,000 award

are you not using this form?
https://www.audax.uk/media/1985/awards-claim-form.docx

which is very different from the ACP form, that does require all he references
http://www.audax-club-parisien.com/download/20130201_0300_R5000_formulaire_FR.doc

[iroiromono]

Interesting. I usually provide all the AUKref numbers for the qualifying rides for the awards to ensure efficient allocation of the rides when for example claiming multiple of the same award, i.e. #2 and #3 B5000. Need to try and catch up with Steve Ralphs

Another point. One can only be an SR ones per season, but can claim multiple SR Series in a single season for awards. For example in 2019 I did 3 and used these for my B25,000 award

are you not using this form?
https://www.audax.uk/media/1985/awards-claim-form.docx

which is very different from the ACP form, that does require all he references
http://www.audax-club-parisien.com/download/20130201_0300_R5000_formulaire_FR.doc

Yes using the structure of that form and emailing to recorder.

Note that it does say in the AUK form:

If you are claiming an award this can be based on the records in the results section of the Audax UK website. Alternatively please list the events you have completed showing Event start place and date and Brevet number.

When claiming B5000 where years may overlap, it is useful to specify which rides are relevant to which award claim.

i.e. for me I provided this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRkNWNOKatGCW7qKmC1R3xRf40Jft1oC0yLVv5FqkEXohofbvh8dfCOT_pfcCvkBGckM-0cXADKNGkM/pubhtml



Ideally the new AUK database would have the rules setup to automatically calculate these in the most optimal way and ensure that results are automatically awarded.