LEL2021 early entry

[alwyn]

Once again, we're going to be offering early entry to LEL. For just a £100 deposit, your place will be guaranteed. Here's how it will work:

• We open for early entries on 30 August. Entry will be by ballot rather than first-come-first-served.
• Entry will be open for seven days.
• We will select 500 entries and offer those people a guaranteed place.
• Those lucky people will have 14 days to get their deposit to us. After that, you'll lose your place.
• You'll then have until 30 November 2020 to pay the balance.
• If you decide not to ride, you'll have until 31 March 2021 to cancel your place. You'll receive a refund of any entry you've paid, minus £50.

If you already have a guaranteed place there is no need to enter early. You'll have the chance to enter in January 2021. These groups of riders have guaranteed entry;

• London Edinburgh London 2017 and Windsor Chester Windsor 2019 volunteers
• Audax UK or Audax Ireland members who were members on 12 September 2018, and remain members on 1 January 2021
• Anyone who has completed a Les Randonneurs Mondiaux validated event in each of the calendar years 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020
• Anyone who brings a spouse or immediate adult family relative (parent, child, sibling) to volunteer, both at London and another control, for at least three full days.

We haven't confirmed rider numbers or the entry fee yet, but they are highly likely to be similar to 2017.

[ianrobo]

Thanks for that and already in my calendar for the 30th !

[Kamoshika]

Sorry, can I just confirm (I know it's there in type, but just wanted to make sure!) that as an Audax UK member who joined at the start of last year, as long as keep up my membership, I'm guaranteed a place for LEL2021? Thanks!

[alwyn]

Sorry, can I just confirm (I know it's there in type, but just wanted to make sure!) that as an Audax UK member who joined at the start of last year, as long as keep up my membership, I'm guaranteed a place for LEL2021? Thanks!

Yes. Make sure you renew promptly though; don't let your membership lapse at the end of the year.

[dat]

Annoying as mine lapsed for a few months over the winter.

[mattc]

I suppose it's possible that there won't be enough spaces for all the people with "guaranteed" entries!

But I have faith in alwyn's forecasting, so I doubt this will happen ...

[alwyn]

I suppose it's possible that there won't be enough spaces for all the people with "guaranteed" entries!

Indeed. It was possible in 2017 and 2013 too, but never came even close. And it's that history that is giving me confidence this time.

[Frank9755]

I remember saying to people last year not to worry if they didn't do an audax last year as PBP has never sold out before!

[mattc]

I remember saying to people last year not to worry if they didn't do an audax last year as PBP has never sold out before!

I bet you're popular!

[alwyn]

I've worked with LRM to try and work out a good balance between maximising opportunity for regular randonneurs and newcomers who fancy having a go. The LRM condition may seem onerous, but making it any more relaxed made the pool of potential riders too large.

[grams]

Annoying as mine lapsed for a few months over the winter.

I can’t imagine it’s going to be enforced like this. Having a joining date before the cut off should surely be enough?

[alwyn]

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I can’t imagine it’s going to be enforced like this. Having a joining date before the cut off should surely be enough?

I spoke with the membership secretary about this on Wednesday. She is minded to be relatively relaxed up until now, but rather stricter once she has messaged all members. However by 'relaxed' she meant a few weeks, not a few months.

[The Family Cyclist]

I'd guess there are some people who have several routes of guaranteed entry. I'm volunteering on WCW and volunteered on last LEL so I have two options but guess I would appear as two places in the calculations they must do.

[Wycombewheeler]

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I can’t imagine it’s going to be enforced like this. Having a joining date before the cut off should surely be enough?

I spoke with the membership secretary about this on Wednesday. She is minded to be relatively relaxed up until now, but rather stricter once she has messaged all members. However by 'relaxed' she meant a few weeks, not a few months.

That's a relief as I renewed on 7th Jan. I would have been disappointed if that had been interpreted as lapsed. From now on I will be sure to do it in December.

[Redlight]

That's a relief as I renewed on 7th Jan. I would have been disappointed if that had been interpreted as lapsed. From now on I will be sure to do it in December.

Best thing is to set up a standing order. That way there's no risk of forgetting.

[Ivan]

Better than that, just join for 5 years.

[Ajax Bay]

"Anyone who has completed a Les Randonneurs Mondiaux validated event in each of the calendar years 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020"
I know Mille Pennines and LEL were RM (2017) and so was Graeme's West Highlands 1000 (2018) (and the other three 1000s too). Am I right that PBP is NOT RM and the only UK 2019 RMs are Andy's concurrent 1000/1200 to Fort William/Inverness?

[LittleWheelsandBig]

1000s are BRM or BR. 1200(+) are RM or BR, except for PBP. 1000s and PBP don't count as RM.

[Andy Corless]

ACP validates rides between 200 - 1000 km. LRM validates rides over 1200 km except PBP as Mr/Mrs LittleWheelsandBig rightly states in the above post. Not sure about 1100 km events or even if there's any about. So the Mille Pennines was BRM, not LRM. As the Fort William is 1000 km it's sanctioned by ACP whilst the Inverness ride is sanctioned by LRM as it's obviously 1200 km. You'll notice that by clicking on the website links below the rides have different emblems displayed near the top of the web pages.

https://burnleyccevents.com/fort-william-1000-05-july-2019/

https://burnleyccevents.com/inverness-1200-05-july-2019/

Next year's LEJOG, at 1400 km is also intended to be LRM so it's a safe assumption that it will count towards the LEL "early entry" criteria.

https://burnleyccevents.com

Hope this is of help.

Andy Corless

[Wycombewheeler]

Next year's LEJOG, at 1400 km is also intended to be LRM so it's a safe assumption that it will count towards the LEL "early entry" criteria.

Interesting...1400km 4 days and 20 hours, essentially 5 days, 280km per day
or 200km further than PBP with an extra 26 hours to do them in.

Not sure I can manage 1400km with the usual rate of ascent favoured by Mr Corless, but the route is drawn doesn't seem to stray gratuitously into hilly areas.

[bhoot]

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I can’t imagine it’s going to be enforced like this. Having a joining date before the cut off should surely be enough?

I spoke with the membership secretary about this on Wednesday. She is minded to be relatively relaxed up until now, but rather stricter once she has messaged all members. However by 'relaxed' she meant a few weeks, not a few months.

All those who were members on Sept 12th last year and who paid their 2019 subscription before the additional joining fee kicked in will be considered as "not lapsed" this year. So you can determine your eligibility by checking how much you paid. However for next year and for 2021 (now that you have all had notice) your new year's subscription must be paid before the old one expires (ie before Dec 31st) to keep your place on the list. Reminders will be sent nearer the time, and as Ivan pointed out one way to avoid the problem in 2021 will be to take out a 5 year subscription before the end of 2019.

Note - life members are eligible whether or not they have paid an Arrivee subscription.

[CrinklyLion]

We haven't confirmed rider numbers or the entry fee yet, but they are highly likely to be similar to 2017.

I note this, and also that the figure of 2000 riders was floating around on the fb page.   Is 2000 riders considered 'similar' to 2017?

[alwyn]

We haven't confirmed rider numbers or the entry fee yet, but they are highly likely to be similar to 2017.

I note this, and also that the figure of 2000 riders was floating around on the fb page.   Is 2000 riders considered 'similar' to 2017?

I've not mentioned '2000 riders' and nor has FB. We have no plans to increase the event to that size, though we have discussed how we might mitigate a surprisingly high DNS rate in 2017.

[CrinklyLion]

Sorry... "2000 places" was the phrase.

[Wycombewheeler]

Sorry... "2000 places" was the phrase.

Aukweb reveals 831 finishers in 2017. I seem to recall talk of a 30% dnf rate. Which would suggest about 1200 starters.

This is just my estimate I have no inside knowledge.