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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2825 on: 21 August, 2013, 02:05:09 pm »
I adieued my son when I left him at his friend's house earlier today.

The OED says:

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adieu, v. To say ‘adieu’; to take one's leave.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2826 on: 21 August, 2013, 02:21:18 pm »
It really is quite difficult to invent genuinely new words, isn't it? Or rather, genuinely new versions of/uses for existing words.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2827 on: 21 August, 2013, 02:44:17 pm »
It really is quite difficult to invent genuinely new words, isn't it? Or rather, genuinely new versions of/uses for existing words.

It's not that difficult, but you do need to check them dictionariwise to ensure their prior unlexical status.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2828 on: 21 August, 2013, 04:28:27 pm »
"Genuinity" is a word I invented easily, and used on this forum.  Someone replied with a question mark, as if to complain that it wasn't a word, but a word is a word once someone's used it, and you can have a go at working out what it means.  If you don't get it, ok, the attempted communication failed.  Otherwise, it's a success!  Jolly goodywobbles, eh?

...Oh shit, I see I wasn't first with "genuinity" and "goodywobble" after all.  Bloody/lovely Google.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2829 on: 21 August, 2013, 04:52:57 pm »
"Genuinity" is a word I invented easily, and used on this forum.  Someone replied with a question mark, as if to complain that it wasn't a word, but a word is a word once someone's used it, and you can have a go at working out what it means.  If you don't get it, ok, the attempted communication failed.  Otherwise, it's a success!  Jolly goodywobbles, eh?

...Oh shit, I see I wasn't first with "genuinity" and "goodywobble" after all.  Bloody/lovely Google.

another one is "irregardless".  :-\ :-\ ::-) ;D

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2830 on: 21 August, 2013, 05:07:33 pm »
Yeah, "irregardless" dates back to at least 1795.

That's established enough for me, so I have now added it to my Firefox dictionary.  :demon:
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2831 on: 21 August, 2013, 05:55:24 pm »
If I can't think of an appropriate word, I just make up one that sounds about right. The English language is riotously democratic. Grammar should be surfed like a stoned Californian. I'm a promiscuous verbificator.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2832 on: 21 August, 2013, 11:24:53 pm »
Sometimes the "correct" solution is the most elegant.

Sometimes it isn't.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2833 on: 22 August, 2013, 04:13:45 pm »
"Genuinity" is a word I invented easily, and used on this forum.

You might be glad to hear that the OED says:

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genuinity, n. rare.
  Genuineness.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2834 on: 26 August, 2013, 07:13:40 pm »
People seem to have forgotten the word "effected".   EDIT: And the word "affected".

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2835 on: 26 August, 2013, 07:21:58 pm »
People seem to have forgotten the word "effected".

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Affected, I think?
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2836 on: 26 August, 2013, 07:29:13 pm »
Effected is OK when used properly, e.g. "I effected a withdrawal from the room after Biggsy trumped."
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2837 on: 26 August, 2013, 09:28:18 pm »
Effected is OK when used properly, e.g. "I effected a withdrawal from the room after Biggsy trumped."

"I effected a withdrawal from the room after I was affected by Biggsy's trumping."
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2838 on: 26 August, 2013, 11:22:47 pm »
A dose of lactulose for me effected a huge amount of trumping.  Is that ok?
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2839 on: 28 August, 2013, 01:08:36 pm »
Is that because you were impacted?

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2840 on: 28 August, 2013, 01:17:39 pm »
My affect was flattened after Biggsy's trumps.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2841 on: 28 August, 2013, 01:35:36 pm »
Less/Fewer again, but the other way round:

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2842 on: 28 August, 2013, 02:59:48 pm »
Effected is OK when used properly, e.g. "I effected a withdrawal from the room after Biggsy trumped."

"I effected a withdrawal from the room after I was affected by Biggsy's trumping."

Was Biggsy trumping after being dealt a void?
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2843 on: 28 August, 2013, 05:20:39 pm »
Whether his void was a delta or any other shape, you'd best avoid it.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2844 on: 06 October, 2013, 08:46:53 am »
'Genius' as an adjective. As in "Wow! USB powered chocolate biscuits. That's genius!"

It just feels wrong, as if there is a silent but clumsy [an idea created by a] crammed into the sentence. Perhaps it is used because it sounds a bit like the similar but unrelated word 'ingenious'.

I blame beardy funster Dave Gorman.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2845 on: 06 October, 2013, 08:57:33 am »
I'm not sure about that. Oscar Wilde had nothing to declare but his genius, so it is a state of mind as well as the person that possesses it.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2846 on: 06 October, 2013, 09:12:25 am »
I'm not sure that you can declare an adjective though.

On the other hand, you can put other nouns into the original construct, for example:

"Climbing Hard Knott on 67" fixed. That's strength!"

"Infinitely-variable gears with a hidden electric drive. That's the answer!"

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2847 on: 07 October, 2013, 03:45:14 pm »
I'm just wondering* where I can get me** some of these USB-powered biscuits...


*inappropriate use of present continuous. I am not loving it.  :sick:
**redundant reflexive personal pronouns. I myself am not a fan.  :sick:
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2848 on: 08 October, 2013, 12:12:49 am »
I'm not sure that you can declare an adjective though.

On the other hand, you can put other nouns into the original construct, for example:

"Climbing Hard Knott on 67" fixed. That's strength!"

"Infinitely-variable gears with a hidden electric drive. That's the answer!"

I was treating "genius" as an abstract noun, not an adjective. "That's genius!" Compare to "That's happiness!" or "That's show-business!" I think that Dave Gorman's use of it fits that pattern.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2849 on: 08 October, 2013, 06:25:43 pm »
Seconded. I move to throw out the challenge to Mr Gorman's [use of the word] genius!
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