Author Topic: Grammar that makes you cringe  (Read 856783 times)

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3225 on: 16 September, 2014, 11:58:08 am »
The comments on the eggcorn article are making me laugh out loud. I'm spitting my slides.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3226 on: 16 September, 2014, 02:31:00 pm »
I had a letter about eggcorns published in the Guardian several years ago. Hmph.

My favourite, printed, embarrassingly enough, in our club newsletter, is 'pre-madonna'.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3227 on: 16 September, 2014, 04:29:20 pm »
Synchronicity!

One of Boss Caine's (York's answer to Springsteen) lyrics leapt out at me the other day, and now I know what to call it.

The lyric was "poking his head above the pulpit".

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3228 on: 16 September, 2014, 09:36:36 pm »
I think it was only after the TV series came out that I realised the phrase was not 'splitting image'. Frankly, neither 'splitting', spitting nor 'spit and image' carry any intrinsic meaning that I can discern, and I think it's that lack of 'logic' in the phrases that might be one reason for eggcorns.

Though eggcorn itself is a funny one.

"Spit and image" is biblical in origin and refers to God's creation of Adam from mud & spittle.  I'd agree, though, that intrinsic meaning or logic in that is pretty hard to discern. Mr. Cabell made it much more amusing.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3229 on: 17 September, 2014, 12:20:49 am »
I have a wonderful vision of Sarah Palin and her elk, charging triumphant from Alaska to free the world from somethingorother.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3230 on: 17 September, 2014, 01:26:20 am »
Synchronicity!

One of Boss Caine's (York's answer to Springsteen) lyrics leapt out at me the other day, and now I know what to call it.

The lyric was "poking his head above the pulpit".

I called out Davina McCall for the same crime last month.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3231 on: 17 September, 2014, 06:32:01 am »
Oh I do like these eggcorns; especially Ian's pre-Madonna. I hope the originator had Ms Ciccone in mind rather than Mary.

Not an eggcorn as such, but a friend of mine is fond of using the phrase 'white elephant in the room'. I love the metaphor of  something obvious that is so useless it is left uncommented upon.

citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3232 on: 17 September, 2014, 10:08:28 am »
I have to admit that in my dim and distant youth, I thought the phrase was pre-madonna - as in the UB40 song with the line "I'm a pre-madonna". Which made a kind of sense because, of course, UB40 did predate Madonna by some years.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3233 on: 17 September, 2014, 10:38:45 am »
There should be an adjective pre-Madonnaite (pre-Madonnan?) referring to a return to the supposed golden period in popular music before Madonna, along the lines of pre-Raphaelite.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3234 on: 17 September, 2014, 10:52:35 am »
There should be an adjective pre-Madonnaite (pre-Madonnan?) referring to a return to the supposed golden period in popular music before Madonna, along the lines of pre-Raphaelite.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3235 on: 17 September, 2014, 12:33:17 pm »
There should be an adjective pre-Madonnaite (pre-Madonnan?) referring to a return to the supposed golden period in popular music before Madonna, along the lines of pre-Raphaelite.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3236 on: 17 September, 2014, 01:33:18 pm »
There should be an adjective pre-Madonnaite (pre-Madonnan?) referring to a return to the supposed golden period in popular music before Madonna, along the lines of pre-Raphaelite.

That's Sweet!

Not just Sweet,  mind.  There's the whole of the rest of Glam rock, too. ;)
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3237 on: 17 September, 2014, 01:43:46 pm »
That's Sweet, that's Sweet, that's Sweet, that's Sweet,
Really like your tiger feet.

But that wasn't Sweet, that was Mud - which is more what you'd expect on tiger feet, anyway.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3238 on: 17 September, 2014, 10:26:34 pm »
Talking of eggcorns and suchlike. Part of headline from local rag:

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3239 on: 17 September, 2014, 11:58:36 pm »
Talking of eggcorns and suchlike. Part of headline from local rag:

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3240 on: 18 September, 2014, 12:42:45 pm »
Is it 'Eric Pickles'?
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3241 on: 18 September, 2014, 12:53:40 pm »
I'm spending my workdays constantly cringing at the moment.

People of Suffolk:
Which and What are not interchangeable. Ever.
Shew is not the past tense of show. (I ought to let this one pass, as it's dialect, but I'm still cringing).
Due does not mean what you seem to think it means.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3242 on: 18 September, 2014, 01:01:24 pm »
Shew is an archaic form of show isn't it?

Past is shewn/shown, I thought.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3243 on: 18 September, 2014, 01:03:08 pm »
Yes. Used by George Bernard Shaw, in an attempt to re-popularise it at a time when it was already archaic.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3244 on: 18 September, 2014, 01:05:14 pm »
Archaic=Still alive and kicking in Suffolk.
Yup, sounds about right.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3245 on: 18 September, 2014, 01:08:48 pm »
Do you mean spelling or pronunciation? Because the old 'shew' didn't represent a different pronunciation, at least not in the last couple of hundred years.

Shew was pronounced like blow or grow, not blew or grew. Shew/shewn sounded like sew/sewn.
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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3246 on: 18 September, 2014, 01:29:27 pm »
Shew is an archaic form of show isn't it?

Past is shewn/shown, I thought.

Best eschewed.
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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3247 on: 18 September, 2014, 02:07:43 pm »
Shew is not the past tense of show. (I ought to let this one pass, as it's dialect, but I'm still cringing).

I feel much the same about snuck and dove used as past tenses for sneak and dive, though I feel I'm swimming against the tide there.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3248 on: 18 September, 2014, 02:23:08 pm »
Do you mean spelling or pronunciation? Because the old 'shew' didn't represent a different pronunciation, at least not in the last couple of hundred years.

Shew was pronounced like blow or grow, not blew or grew. Shew/shewn sounded like sew/sewn.

Pronounced like shoe.

(With a stalk of grass in the corner of your mouth.)

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3249 on: 18 September, 2014, 02:57:16 pm »


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