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Mr Larrington

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4175 on: 23 March, 2016, 06:54:09 pm »
Oi, Act-tor!  I do not think a dispute should be described as both long and lengthy.  Kindly report to the Department of Redundancy Department to be punished with a suitable punishment.
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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4176 on: 23 March, 2016, 07:21:59 pm »
the Department of Redundancy Department

 ;D
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4177 on: 29 March, 2016, 11:05:47 am »
R U overstimulated?

With its several references to "extraverts" I can't help wondering if this has been published two days too early.  :D
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Andrij

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4178 on: 29 March, 2016, 11:15:34 am »
;D  Andrij.  I pronounce you Complete and Utter GIT   :thumbsup:

citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4179 on: 30 March, 2016, 05:42:44 pm »
Fwiw, the spelling preferred by Jung when he invented the term was 'extravert'.

I don't know if its pedantic literalism or careless sub-editing that's behind the 'extrovert' spelling in the Eysenck quote.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4180 on: 31 March, 2016, 03:37:18 pm »
 :-[ The OED does give extravert as an accepted spelling. Not intravert though.
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Ruthie

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4181 on: 01 April, 2016, 11:15:01 pm »
When I was given some education in such things a gazillion years ago, the spellings were introvert (intro = inward) and extravert (extra = outward).

I get a little twitch in my eye every time I see 'extrovert'.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4182 on: 02 April, 2016, 10:02:16 am »
Larger detached houses around here are often demolished and replaced by apartment blocks.

One current reconstruction I pass has a notice saying 12 bespoke apartments - 50% sold.

T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4183 on: 07 April, 2016, 01:07:15 pm »
AVG just informed me that its scan had completed.  A crossword puzzle, doubtless.
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Vince

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4184 on: 09 April, 2016, 04:43:57 am »
A sign at the local tip recycling centre

Use Both Lanes

So I did
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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4185 on: 10 April, 2016, 09:37:27 pm »


Flewby?
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4186 on: 10 April, 2016, 09:59:06 pm »

Flewby?

That's in Norfolk, isn't it?

citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4187 on: 10 April, 2016, 10:47:00 pm »
If not, it ought to be.
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Mrs Pingu

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4188 on: 10 April, 2016, 11:36:03 pm »
Back on the subject of weather - 'hill snow' really gets Pingu's goat.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4189 on: 11 April, 2016, 07:52:14 am »
If not, it ought to be.

No, Oughterby's in Cumbria.

billplumtree

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4190 on: 11 April, 2016, 07:53:15 am »
*applause*

T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4191 on: 12 April, 2016, 09:16:26 am »
Something I find cringeworthy is the growing use of words that don't mean what the author intended but work more or less. E.g. in Seveneves, Neal Stevenson uses the phrase "slatternly tarps".  A slattern being a woman of dirty or untidy habit, it's hard to imagine a tarpaulin being particularly female. He probably meant slovenly, but thought the two were interchangeable or simply couldn't recall it (he's middle-aged, after all).  Similarly, yesterday I read of someone "robbing the bottle cages" off his old bike.  I always understood that you could rob a bank, a pillar-box or a person, but bottle cages and bullion you stole. Maybe robbing a bottle cage is OK in some dialects, but I think it's just wrong.
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Mr Larrington

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4192 on: 12 April, 2016, 04:16:36 pm »
"Robbing" is certainly in common usage for "stealing" on Merseyside.  They've probably got two hundred words for theft, though ;)
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4193 on: 12 April, 2016, 04:18:49 pm »
How many for stereotype?!  :)

clarion

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4194 on: 12 April, 2016, 04:47:42 pm »
Rob is perfectly acceptable in that context.
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Vince

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4195 on: 12 April, 2016, 04:53:08 pm »
Something I find cringeworthy is the growing use of words that don't mean what the author intended but work more or less. E.g. in Seveneves, Neal Stevenson uses the phrase "slatternly tarps". 
I'm not sure it is such a bad use. There is a slatting sail, one where it isn't hauled in properly and is flapping fiercely.
The origin of slattern is from German meaning to hang loosely, which would certainly apply to a tarp. [/I was away the day they taught grammar]
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4196 on: 12 April, 2016, 05:22:47 pm »
I thought 'robbed' was used to describe an unfavourable scoreline at the end of a football match. It is paired with its own easily remembered conjugation rule: Alway prefix with 'was'.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4197 on: 12 April, 2016, 06:50:13 pm »
Robbing parts is a standard expression in maintenance, where parts might be taken from one piece of machinery to keep another going.

Mr Larrington

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4198 on: 12 April, 2016, 07:23:45 pm »
Quote from: nb10
Oh does your heroin lose its glamour on the washboard overnight?
When your mother says “Don’t do it” do you crank it up in spite?
Do you rob your brother’s Giro? Do you talk a load of shite?
Does your heroin lose its glamour on the washboard overnight?
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4199 on: 12 April, 2016, 08:09:45 pm »
Robbing a bottle cage would mean stealing the bottle or the bolts in my dialect, but northerners use it as a synonym for 'steal', and it's not usually ambiguous.

I'd certainly rob machine A for parts to repair machine B, but I *stole* that PSU from machine A, I didn't 'rob' it.