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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #425 on: 12 July, 2012, 12:12:45 pm »
Was the Wiggins swear fest recorded anywhere?

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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #426 on: 12 July, 2012, 12:17:28 pm »
a rider he regards as having a bit more panache.

Or does he resent losing to a rider who twiddles along smoothly and calmly instead of honking up hills pulling faces and swinging about like a bag of spanners in the traditional pro-cyclist manner?

I suspect he'd've hated Indurain, too.

SWMBO watched the highlights and commented that she thought Nibali's climbing style was like Contadors....

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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #427 on: 12 July, 2012, 01:46:55 pm »
That's not how Nibali interpreted it.
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #428 on: 12 July, 2012, 02:48:25 pm »
Was the Wiggins swear fest recorded anywhere?
Yup. ITV4 Highlights show led with it on the day (bleeped, obviously!). So it must exist 'out there' somewhere.
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #429 on: 12 July, 2012, 05:06:04 pm »
Well, it looks like Wiggo and Nibbles are mates again after their little cuddle across the finish line...

Great stage  :)
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #430 on: 12 July, 2012, 05:08:45 pm »
That was brill.

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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #431 on: 12 July, 2012, 05:08:58 pm »
Very good indeed. I think, bobb, that you have to be extremely careful: Wiggo's hair must be at least as cool as yours. It's the sideburns that make it. :P
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #432 on: 12 July, 2012, 05:09:29 pm »
Amazing stage. Froomy was on fire! Shame that Cuddles lost it a bit.

Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #433 on: 12 July, 2012, 05:12:04 pm »
Beyond exciting!
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #434 on: 12 July, 2012, 05:12:46 pm »
a rider he regards as having a bit more panache.

Or does he resent losing to a rider who twiddles along smoothly and calmly instead of honking up hills pulling faces and swinging about like a bag of spanners in the traditional pro-cyclist manner?

I suspect he'd've hated Indurain, too.

 that's a very well considered suspicion. :)

Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #435 on: 12 July, 2012, 05:15:42 pm »
Very good indeed. I think, bobb, that you have to be extremely careful: Wiggo's hair must be at least as col as yours. It's the sideburns that make it. :P

I shall not be making an attempt to grow sideburns!

Anyway, how come you're so interested in Le Tour all of a sudden?!!
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #436 on: 12 July, 2012, 05:22:31 pm »
Very good indeed. I think, bobb, that you have to be extremely careful: Wiggo's hair must be at least as col as yours. It's the sideburns that make it. :P

I shall not be making an attempt to grow sideburns!

Anyway, how come you're so interested in Le Tour all of a sudden?!!

It's not sudden. Life gets in the way and prevents me watching an entire stage, and I was first attracted to it by the scenery. It's given me alpine ambitions.

However, you look at the way these guys take on the Alps and, having experienced North Hill on a few occasions, one has empathy.

I reckon it's time Cadel Evans took up audax.
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #437 on: 12 July, 2012, 05:24:10 pm »
Wow, Brad's on top of the pile, but there is still a long way to go.

It looked as if Chris Froome could have nicked the stage and put time into him though, if he had been allowed to.

Fantastic ride by Teejay who rode all over Cadel. he's another young rider for the future
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #438 on: 12 July, 2012, 05:37:12 pm »
Crumbs, that was brutal! Chapeau to the lot of them.  :o 8) :thumbsup:
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #439 on: 12 July, 2012, 05:55:37 pm »
BTW, does anyone know if Rolland gets double points for mountain top finish?
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #440 on: 12 July, 2012, 06:06:04 pm »
Was the Wiggins swear fest recorded anywhere?
Yup. ITV4 Highlights show led with it on the day (bleeped, obviously!). So it must exist 'out there' somewhere.

Been looking for it, but no joy so far.

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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #441 on: 12 July, 2012, 06:17:14 pm »
Was the Wiggins swear fest recorded anywhere?
@Domestique @mattc The Wiggins considered response is quoted in full near the start of an interesting article at http://www.sportsscientists.com/2012/07/tour-in-mountains-analysis-discussion.html (Not sure of my source for that link ... apologies if it was from somebody from this parish.)
Super tactical race today - really exciting!
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #442 on: 12 July, 2012, 06:44:15 pm »
If I was Froome I'd be extremely frustrated having to carry another rider for the second time on a grand tour.  There is just the impression, like the Vuelta, that Sky is putting the brakes on him in order to deliver a win for a cyclist who is no stronger and probably less strong.

In some ways, the situation reminds me of Cunego in the year that he won the Giro (he was there to support someone else, but in that case simply asserted himself as the lead rider, despite the protestations of - from memory - Simeone).  Part of me wishes that Sky would give Froome the freedom to go for it, because at the moment it feels to me that we are going to end up with the weaker Sky rider being placed higher up the order.  That said, I suppose he is in an impossible position as Brad seems like a huffy chuffer who would throw his toys from the pram if dropped from number one slot.

Fingers crossed Froome gets to lead a team next season.

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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #443 on: 12 July, 2012, 06:51:26 pm »
If I was Froome I'd be extremely frustrated having to carry another rider for the second time on a grand tour.  There is just the impression, like the Vuelta, that Sky is putting the brakes on him in order to deliver a win for a cyclist who is no stronger and probably less strong.
But which of us hasn't thought that they could do better than the next guy up the hierarchy at some time in our careers , whatever area we have laboured in.
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« Reply #444 on: 12 July, 2012, 07:02:54 pm »
And Nibali had the cheek to moan about the Wiggo stare. He couldn't have been more hypocritical if he tried today. And Wiggo had the grace to say well done to  him at the line. I would have just said FAIL.

Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #445 on: 12 July, 2012, 07:18:38 pm »
I suspect he'd've hated Indurain, too.

Exactly. Much as we want to see a Brit win, we don't really want to see a repeat of the 1995 Tour, do we?

Blitzing the field with high-tempo group riding up mountains is hugely impressive, but it lacks the excitement of the mano a mano, suitcases of courage stuff we saw in stage 17 of last year's Vuelta.

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Today's effort OK for you? I thought it was brilliant to watch.
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #446 on: 12 July, 2012, 07:20:58 pm »
Amazing stage. Froomy was on fire! Shame that Cuddles lost it a bit.

Yes, I felt for him. Van Garderen should be up there one year, though.
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #447 on: 12 July, 2012, 07:29:59 pm »
If I was Froome I'd be extremely frustrated having to carry another rider for the second time on a grand tour.  There is just the impression, like the Vuelta, that Sky is putting the brakes on him in order to deliver a win for a cyclist who is no stronger and probably less strong.

Well, it is a team, and riders are used according to their strengths and according to a game plan. Bigger picture sort of thing. Froome's job is to help out Wiggo on the pointy bits, at the moment, and he's not (quite) as good a time-triallist. But, yes, he could be a winner with the right team backing, although whether he could be a team leader is another matter.

I just hope if he jumps ship, he goes to another team that supports its riders as well as Sky (if there is one). He could end up getting big bucks in the short term to move to another team with cr@p management, strategy, training, care for the riders and (dare I say it) ethics, which could be the end of him one way or another.

If I were him I'd stick with the Sky set-up and take over when Wiggo starts to fade.
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #448 on: 12 July, 2012, 07:31:52 pm »
And Nibali had the cheek to moan about the Wiggo stare. He couldn't have been more hypocritical if he tried today. And Wiggo had the grace to say well done to  him at the line. I would have just said FAIL.

"Eh, Wiggo, you don' show 'nuff respec'."

Who did he think he was, the Mafia?
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Re: Tour de France 2012
« Reply #449 on: 12 July, 2012, 08:10:31 pm »
Froome is riding awfully well.
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